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L Mount Autofocus Lens for Leica! Sigma 24mm f2 DN DG for Photography on my Leica SL & CL
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Does Sigma make Leica lenses? Yes! Here is the Sigma DG DN 24mm f2 lens review. What is Sigma L-mount? Sigma, Panasonic and Leica are all part of the L mount alliance. Some call it Leica L mount. I use Sigma lens on my L mount cameras - Leica CL and Leica SL cameras (in this video) + Lumix S5. If you need an affordable autofocus lens for your Leica camera these new Sigma Contemporary DG DN lenses might be an option. Example photography in Poland using the SL and CL. Are Sigma lenses worth it? If you want an autofocus lens for Leica then I think they offer great value yes.
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@randallbrander8157 2 ай бұрын

I own the Sigma 24mm f/1.4 Art and the 45mm f/2.8 Contemporary and they work great on the L Mount cameras that I own. Cheers!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 ай бұрын

Yes these DG DN lenses are good for the money. I liked the 65mm and 90mm especially but I've tested quite a few.

@noenken 2 жыл бұрын

I have the 35 and 65 f/2 for my SL2s and both are great. I sold my APO Summicron SL lenses because of weight, lack of aperture ring and the limited choices in terms of focal length. (Leica still hasn't released a 21 or 24 SL prime lens.) I am waiting for the rumored 20mm which I would prefer over the 24. (But at least I have an option now.) For the price I think these lenses are outstandingly good. And usually I am not into third party lenses.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Christian! I appreciate your experience vs SL glass. Yes they do seem to offer excellent value. I might review more this year and I have the 50 Art video to come so stay tuned!

@MrChrisWhitten 2 жыл бұрын

I have two Sigma contemporary lenses, the 45mm and the 24mm f3.5. They are excellent lenses, amazing value for money. I have a Sigma FP and a Leica CL. Most other L mount lenses (Leica and Panasonic) are big, heavy and very expensive. I do manually focus the Sigma lenses for video, but yeah, not really practical for moving photo sessions.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris, yes the 45mm is super small for AF FF

@fellowcitizen 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for covering glow etc, and showing so much context :-) +1 review of the fp +/- fp L

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, another Sigma lens review to come in the short term (mini review with photos)

@jamescaldwell5 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos! I am a painter who has recently decided to get more serious with my photography. I recently purchased a Sigma 24mm f2 for my Sigma FPL. And I am glad you agree with the other reviewers that it is an excellent lens. I know this is an old video but you pose the question if we would like to see you test out the sigma FP, and I say YES. See if Sigma will lend you an FPL, many reviewers have called it the "Japanese Leica". I am curious to see what your take on the camera is. I love mine, but its a recent purchase. What attracted me was the performance, build quality and ability to customize. I have a wooden grip on mine.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Thanks James, I used to paint before I discovered photography in my late 20s. (Water colours- were OK, fine detail acrylic model painting I got quite good at). Yes I will try to get the FP when I have a gap in my videos to do list, hopefully later this year.

@tamilhoward9708 Жыл бұрын

Are you in the US? I can't find unbiased reviews of the FP-L here in the US. Lots of bashing.

@user-jp9js9th8o 7 ай бұрын

I own 2 of the FP-L - without eVF, because I git used to compose pictures with the display like I do with my phone. And: this little gem is not only a Japanese leica - it is the Leica 2.0: the best dynamic range of ALL ff cameras according to photnostophotos, very near to the MF GFX 100(s).

@sromrell 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reviewing the Sigma. I’ve got a mix of Leica R, TL, SL, Voightlander M, and Sigma L mount. I think it would be great if you did more Sigma.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yes I might try to test a few more this year :)

@NineVoltDigitalCinema 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thorough review! I got this lens at the end of last year for video use with my Sigma fp on a gimbal. Haven’t been able to shoot a whole lot with it yet, but it’s pretty nice image quality, and the size and build are perfect. I’d definitely recommend it.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes I nice size for sure and a good performer optically.

@Chris-ey7zy Жыл бұрын

The 90mm is amazing on a gimbal. No focus breathing. I never understood how amazing that could be until you get a lens like that

@patrickjclarke 2 жыл бұрын

So, I'm a Sigma Foveon lover and have a few of the DP series cameras and recently got a great deal on the sd Quattro (APS-C) mirrorless camera that came with the 30mm f/1.4 DC Art lens and it's been interesting comparing it to my Leica Summarit 35mm f/2.4 ASPH. The Leica Summarit is the perfect balance between clinical and character in my opinion, only hindered by the Bayer sensor for level of detail. It requires very little correction and defringing and does a great job of DOF falloff. Probably one of the best things about Leica lenses. The Sigma is shockingly good, and paired with the Foveon Quattro sensor makes it seem like I have a portable 4X5 film camera with me. The lens would probably be too sharp and clinical if it wasn't for the subtle tonal control and natural rendering of the Foveon sensor (especially in BW). The Sigma does need a bit more correction (handled automatically in Sigma Photo Pro) but does have more fringing issues than my Leica. Biggest drawback is the size, especially for an APS-C lens. The sd Quattro isn't the tiniest machine either, but I would love to use the 24mm that you got based on your CL shots for thee Quattro if they made an SA mount version. I think on your Leica's the rendering is a bit too clinical and modern for my tastes compared to the Leica glass I've shot...but for the price on an L-Mount system, it would be hard to pass up, even compared to my Summarit. I wish you were were closer, I'd love to see what you do with a Foveon camera for your style of shooting!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the insight Patrick, I hope to start travelling a lot more from later this year for overseas workshops so never say never!

@jeffrandall4046 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review Matt. Appreciate your feedback on L Mount as I'm one of those guys that transitioned to the SL platform due to aging eyesight. And, yeah, would be interested in you reviewing the Sigma FP or FP L.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeff, I will try to get a Sigma body this year to try out.

@suehodnett6911 2 жыл бұрын

Interested too, the FP seems to have been slated in lots of reviews but it's so tiny which is what caught my eye with it.

@RS-Amsterdam 2 жыл бұрын

I am totally NOT a fan of reviews where people alter the raw output with post editing cause what is left of the characteristic of that lens. Did you alter the color Sat/Vib, did you sharpen it, did you add Texture/Clarity/Dehaze etc. IMO useless if I can't see the RAW images (uncorrected and corrected with the proper lens correction) .

@LucyS565 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. I've never used a Sigma. Looks like a great lens with lovely character with it's glow and stars. I love the night shots in b&w. Thank you Matt@

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lucy!

@noseycomic4992 2 жыл бұрын

Why do the yellow cards say 28mm? Thanks for the video!!!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, sorry that's me being dumb/ seemingly partly dyslexic ..thanks for mentioning. I can't repost the video put i'll put a note under the video, thanks.

@tonymansell8023 Жыл бұрын

Good review skills Matt! Not bad for a pommy. 100% loving this sigma lens on my Leica SL…. (Still running some choice voigtlander lenses as well)

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Ha thanks Tony! Yes good lens. Love Voigtländers though.

@webersteve1547 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review, and I'm waiting to see what you say about the fp. Personally I enjoy AF lenses because I have less misfocussed photos

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve, yes mine are extra micro focused ha. A guy I know bought the FP and told me yesterday he sent it back and bought the Lumix S5 I use. He didn’t like it.

@Stone1108 2 жыл бұрын

Like your thoughts on manual focus, good review, thanks.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew!

@thedondeluxe6941 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Really like this new Sigma line of Leica-like lenses. I have the 65mm F2 and use it on my Leica CL. Very happy with the results! I have noticed iy uses more battery than the Leica lenses for some reason, but other than that I'm super happy with it.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I might try to get the 65mm as it should be nice for portraits. It will use the battery faster than M glass due to the AF.

@thedondeluxe6941 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom It's a very nice lens for portraits! I meant faster than the L mount Leica lenses. There is a big difference between the L-mount Leicas and the Sigma in battery consumption on the CL, but I'm not sure why. Maybe it's just because it's a full frame tele and requires stronger motors, but the difference is surprisingly big.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

@@thedondeluxe6941 interesting observation thanks for info.

@ronanderson9960 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Matt, that is a very versatile lens, I just picked up the new Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 for SL2-S, so far so good. I think Sigma has done a very good job with this L- mount line.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ron, I might try to get the 24-70 to review this year.

@ronanderson9960 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom that sounds great Matt! Love the Poland photos, looks like an awesome place to shoot! Oh, and you had some very beautiful models there also! Haha!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

@@ronanderson9960 thanks, stay tuned. More trips coming up 👍🏻

@ronanderson9960 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom fantastic Matt! Looking forward to watching them!

@dlyon9673 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this interesting video. I agree that manual focus and aperture rings are a much more satisfying photography experience, although auto-focus is tremendous for video and even more vlogging and webcam. I would be very interested in an FP review!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks yes agreed for video, I'll do my best!

@dlyon9673 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom As for Sigma, I think you might really enjoy trying out a Foveon sensor camera, which can produce beautiful color and black and white images with remarkable details, and while the Foveon sensor presents limitations -- best results at ISO's from 100 to 400, and limited dynamic range -- such limitations are right within a film shooter's wheelhouse.

@jeromearnould9940 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video... I do have a 30 DC DN 1.4 (DC DN is for APS C DG DN is for full frame) for my CL very good autofocus 45mm with crop factor. I also have the 35 summilux 1.4 TL but I do not use it as it is too heavy and too big That Sigma is ligth, small fast and with excellent images quality on the CL. Using it when I'm lazy and do not take a manual focus lens. Yes please do a review on the fp I 'd love to see that

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jerome, yes the 35 TL is way to big for the CL even if very good optically. Thanks for the info on the crop lenses and yes I will try to get a Sigma body if they approve of this video.

@d.idowuolutosin4250 2 жыл бұрын

Matt, I shoot with the S5 and CL. The only autofocus lenses I use are the Sigma DN DG lenses. I own the 45mm f2.8 and the 28-70mm f2.8 currently and I plan to round out my L mount lenses with this 24mm f2 and the 90mm f2.8. That will give me all I need in terms of wide to long angle lenses for the S5. With the CL, I will have even more reach and you're correct, the sharpness of these Sigma lenses is amazing. However, every lens I own for my Fujifilm X-Pro3 in native X mount is manual focus only and I've been slowly moving all of my manual focus lenses to Voigtlander with the appropriate adapter for each system I shoot. It's a love experience. I know you don't shoot Fujifilm but if you ever get your hands on an X-Pro3, use your M mount lenses on it and let me know if you still want to keep your CL. I debate myself on these issues every day. 🤣 Keep bringing this great content. I like it when REAL photographers review gear with real-world use cases.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and yes I will do :)

@Seapatico 2 жыл бұрын

Oh nice! I've been curious about these! I'm with you -- I don't love af lenses and I don't love getting a lens that only works on digital. But I am so glad to have this review! I'd be curious to see some of the other lenses -- especially the other wide lenses. I find af more useful on those.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sean!

@obscur_yoann 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Sigma fp, a Lumix S1R and this Sigma 24 and the 90 2.8 (and had the 45mm). I use them mostly handheld at night (street photography). I love them. I prefer 24 to 28mm now. Very dynamic. These lenses are a joy to use and are not sterile like some of the Art one before. Hugh Browstone refers to them as the Sigma summicrons. Along with some nice manual focus lenses, they are made for a great kit.

@obscur_yoann 2 жыл бұрын

My fp is just becoming my M mini... Love it more than I thought I will. But it's definitely a camera one should try before buying! I rented it for few days first, and despite liking it, I still had complains and didn't think I will buy one... But after, it grows on me (the colors are fantastic and files are a joy to edit) and I finally bought one. No regrets! Not for everyone of course, but way better than many think! And a low light monster like the SL2-S.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Nice setup, thanks!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yes people seem to say it is a love or hate camera. Thanks for your comment.

@DidierMOULINPhotography 10 ай бұрын

Hi Matt. It seems that it has distorsion I had the M 24 f3.5 that was nearly perfect in this regard but not f/2 What’s your opinion regarding distortion ? Nice review again and cheers from France

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 10 ай бұрын

Hi the software is designed to correct most of the distortion in this Sigma lenses. I don’t shoot architecture snd I don’t own Sigma glass so I can’t comment more than what’s in this video, sorry

@MarcS4R 2 жыл бұрын

i have the 50 and the new 35 DN art , and they are great on the SL (2) bodies.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marc, I’ll try and do a mini review for the 50 Art to share some photos.

@karstdejong 2 жыл бұрын

Would love you to do a review on the Sigma fp! Highly underrated in my opinion...

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, it must be the ultimate love / hate camera! Yes if I can get one I will.

@Peter-df1br 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter

@johntocho8954 2 жыл бұрын

Matt, they also make this in a 3.5 besides the 2.0...What do you think of the 24mm f3.5? Seems like the 3.5 is smaller and may be a really good option for a street photo lense or a travel camera. Thoughts? Thank you!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Hi John, yes get the 3.5 if don’t need f2 as smaller (small is good for me!)

@DaneBrammage Жыл бұрын

Would love to see your thoughts on the Sigma FP/L for photography. I just ordered one with the Sigma 45mm f2.8, at $1599USD it was hard to pass up. I wanted a small full frame body that I could shoot manual lenses on (P.Angenieux s21 50mm f1.5 being my lens de jour) and the standard fare of full frame mirrorless L mount bodies are huge in comparison. We'll see, I suppose. If I was still doing photography full time it would be have to be an SL2 though :-) Thanks for the great reviews!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Thanks, if I get one to test I’ll be sure to share the results. Enjoy yours!

@markoehlschlager3862 2 жыл бұрын

Matt, didn't you do an entire episode on the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 and the Leica CL? I'm certain you did, but I can't find that episode anywhere on your KZfaq channel.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, sorry it wasn’t me. I’ve never tried that lens. Maybe I can in the future 👍🏻

@ZippyDChimp-mr1tf 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Matt, I think you missed the biggest pro on using the Sigma lenses…the close focus! I don’t think I’d buy any of their Art series lenses because of their size but the f2/2.8 series are comparatively small side by side relating to both Leica and Panasonic autofocus L mount offerings. I like my Sigma 35mm f2 and it works great when paired with the SL. I find it large on the TL2 even though it is smaller than the Summilux-TL (don’t own one but did check it out at the Leica Store). Personally, i enjoy using my Leica R glass on the SL more for most things but appreciate the convenience and close focus capabilities of the Sigma. I recently bought two inexpensive vintage M42 lenses that I’m dying to try out. Still waiting on the adapter, though.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I did mention the close focus but I guess I should have included it as a pro at the end too, correct. Now I use the 7Artisan close focus adapter I can focus close with every lens so it's less new to me now (getting close).

@EUGEN_VIDEO 6 ай бұрын

Hello. As the owner of this glass from the owner, I want to ask. The preset on the aperture, the so-called declic, bothers me. When the petals are always open and close only when the shutter is pressed, to the set value. Is it possible to shoot without this function?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 6 ай бұрын

I think no, you need to use full manual / mechanical lenses for this (like Voigtlander etc that I use a lot). I use 98% mechanical lenses for this reason (and for proper focus controls etc).

@JoshHaley 11 ай бұрын

Is there an adapter for using Sony E mount lenses on the Leica SL? E to L mount? Does the autofocus carry through?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 11 ай бұрын

No I don't think so. (99% sure) You need L mount lenses to use AF or older manual lenses via adapter

@JoshHaley 11 ай бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Ok thanks

@leethirkellson 2 жыл бұрын

I find the Sigma 35mm f2 drains my battery much quicker on my CL, is this general experience? For example in around 30 mins I am losing one bar of battery whereas with other gear I get a bit more juice out of it. Is there a trick to reduce this or just something to live with?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Lee, compared to MF M lenses I normally use Sigma AF lenses will drain the battery faster. I have no issues with 18mm Leica TL lens too.

@krolldavid 2 жыл бұрын

Yes please review the sigma fp

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks David, i'll try. I like the size!

@eis-bl4xw 2 жыл бұрын

35mm 1.2 ART is amazing. It may be huge and heavy but it balances well on the heavy SL body

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I used the 50 Art today so samples to follow :)

@IvarsDayLab 2 жыл бұрын

I shoot sigma 30mm f1. 4 and 16mm f1.4 on my Sony a6400 and they are perfectly sharp even at f1.4 so I think that sigma lenses are quite good for pretty much any system + cheaper than originals

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ivars, great info for anyone using other cameras, thanks!

@salmonefotografia77 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for sharing and introducing the lens, very nice try, I am thing about to buy a Sigma lens for my Leica Sl2-S. But, I do not know how to choose, and so what is the diffrence between the DG DN series and the DG HSM series? I do not konw about them. Maybe you could explain that, thank you!!!❤❤❤

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I would consider any of the new DG DN lenses I mention. They are very well regarded. Art lenses are bigger and often f1.4. Older Sigma lenses may be less good from reviews but I have no experience with these, sorry.

@salmonefotografia77 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom OK, no problems.I got this, enough for me. Thanks, man❤❤❤So nice kind of you! Have a nice weekend, see you next time👍👍👍

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

@@salmonefotografia77 cheers 👍🏻

@DidierMOULINPhotography Жыл бұрын

Good again !!! It seems that this DG DN F/2 series is a real bargain.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Yes! (I might have some more videos coming.. I've done the 24, 35, 65 so far)

@vinylisland6386 2 жыл бұрын

Film. There's still a problem with white skies (blown hightlights?) in digital black and white. The Sigma 24mm is impressive, I can see why so many people are enthusiastic.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes I thought the new Sigma lens did well

@jorgeperello6049 Жыл бұрын

Hello... I have leica 23mm f2 summicrom in my leica cl. Could I use this lens in a leica sl?? Thank you

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Hi Jorge, yes you can but you get less MP as it applies the crop factor. TL lenses are better on SL2 a it has more MP.

@jorgeperello6049 Жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom muchas gracias.

@blende5.693 2 жыл бұрын

again nice review, I own only the Sigma art 2.8 70mm macro. The sharpness is perfect, but the autofocus is terrible. I just use the lens for scanning my negatives, so I don’t care about the af. But for me is sigma not my first choice.

@kirkthibault3204 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a macro lens. They do not focus quickly, it’s just inherent in the design. Same with the 105, which I use on the SL2, but that has a range switch which does help when you are using it for portraits, etc.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for info.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kirk, good point

@wbfl12 2 жыл бұрын

How do these compare to the lumix 1.8 L mount lenses?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

I’d expect smaller but I’ve not seen the Lumix ones.

@insomnia09 Жыл бұрын

comparison to the voigtländer: please add the adapter weight and size :-)

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Ha thanks Michael. If I ever have both OK :)

@kjltube 2 жыл бұрын

I think the film photos look better (from my iPhone) for a number of reasons… They have a nice white border. They have weather that gave reflections and visible clouds in the sky. The colour tone (which could have been somewhat replicated in post with the digital files), suited the environment better.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin! I prefer film too (but agree you could fake it to an extent with digital)

@kjltube 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I actually don't necessarily think it's because they are shot on film. More the weather and the border. But film does add something.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

@@kjltube thanks yes agreed

@channamasala 5 ай бұрын

why does 28mm title kepp popping up in yellow? is that a typo or have a missed something?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 5 ай бұрын

I might have typo'd if you see 28mm in the video. Sorry about that. (Sleep deprived!)

@ryanbeer5262 2 жыл бұрын

The focus by wire is the main issue I have with modern af lenses. At some point in the future they won't be repairable. I'd rather spend a bit more on a Voigt. lens that will work for decades.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Yes i'm with you!

@innstikk Жыл бұрын

With the Sigma I series lenses (except the 90mm) has linear focus option if your camera supports it (like S5 and fp)

@kevinmarkham6385 2 жыл бұрын

the sigma fp is more of a video camera than a stills camera but id still love to see a video of it

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin, ok I’ll see what I can do!

@weisserth Жыл бұрын

This lens (and the range it's part of) may be one of the most compelling reasons to buy a Lumix S5.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

They are a nice size for sure!

@andreitelenkov5775 2 жыл бұрын

No "Do I recommend this lens" part? Yes, that's what I thought :) I had couple of Sigmas on Canon. All long gone...Gone for good...:)

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrei, I prefer my M lenses for sure but it can take nice photos. I think the new lens are much better that their own ones that used to be average at best (I've not touched Sigma in over 12 years of photography until now).

@andretim75 2 жыл бұрын

clearly prefer the film photos - indeed much more !

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks me too! :)

@wilfredshum3703 2 жыл бұрын

Some of your shots remind me the old but impressive shipyard I visited in Gdansk. It was there where the Germans and later Russians built their submarines. Nice review as usual, although I am not a Sigma user yet.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Wilfred and very interesting about the submarines, thank you.

@smallbatchsessions6892 Жыл бұрын

I have the 65 and 90mm versions of these I series lenses for Sony . I wish I’d not gotten the 90 and mainly because it’s not an f/2 . I wanted it for a Smaller run and gun video kit and it’ll sill work for that but still think I need faster. I love the glow of lightning I’m getting from these Sigma lenses vs the very very ugly rendering of light sources from my Sony GM lenses. By trying to suppress lens flare they suppress so much character. So many new autofocus modern glass is too perfect and dull with it’s rendering. That said I prefer the rendering overall over Sony GM glass . As for Voigtlander and Leica glass depending upon their design rendering is usually beautiful. For my work I’m struggling not having autofocus. I shoot some film but just don’t have the time . I want the Leica M5 and will through time get it and more m mount glass . It’s so adaptable for one . I usually don’t need the electronics of either the Sony or Nikon bodies I shoot with for manual focus. I shoot many old non ai Nikkor glass . I like soft and dreamy even on a 45mp sensor sometimes. Rendering is the first impression someone sees of an image . I have had some younger people say my videos shot with high resolution digital cameras and Sigma Art and Modern Nikon glass wasn’t very sharp looking. Even exported at 4k . I think people are becoming engrossed into the cell phone AI pictures. For me sometimes a completely out of focus picture can be beautiful.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Thanks, yes i'm a big fan of older glass as you probably know. Adding a mist filter to the Sigma makes them good enough for me for my portraits. It takes the modern edge off the photos so less digital looking. I need that.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

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@baerv3753 2 жыл бұрын

Why not just get the Summicron 23mm f2 TL for the CL…autofocus and tiny.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Great point. This was to use on FF but yes for crop the 23mm makes more sense especially for size.

@ThomasEisl.Photography 2 жыл бұрын

I definitely prefer the film photos, the compositions are somehow more pleasing

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Thomas, composed with more space around as guesstimating 25mm with 28mm finder. :)

@67tagada Жыл бұрын

Vos noirs et blancs sont superbes !

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes I shoot mostly b&w

@apocryphal_man Жыл бұрын

I found the Panasonic ones to be better overall especially for video and they are weather sealed. You can also set the linear focus throw angle for these lenses. They’re not as pretty as the Sigmas, though.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Thanks for info. I’ve only tried the 20-60 Lumix (cheap one!)

@shawnj8765 2 жыл бұрын

When you write 28mm f2, I assume you meant 24mm?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear, it sounds like I messed up, yes sorry 24mm :S

@chickenpasta7359 10 ай бұрын

calling sigma art and contemporary lenses bad is like calling the toyota camry an unreliable car

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 10 ай бұрын

Haha, Sigma are much better than they were 10 years ago. They used to be one to avoid.

@thomashilmersen711 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a Sigma 35mm 2.0 DG DN for my Leica L and sold it pretty quickly. I thought the rendering was too clinical and the colors too grey and boring. I then went the other way and used the SL with an old Jupiter 8 lens. Loved the results. However, my wife is constantly complaining about my slow focusing, so I am thinking about getting a Lumix 50mm 1.8 autofocus lens. From the photos I see on Flickr, the rendering is more "film like" than the Sigmas.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Thomas, I reviewed the Sigma 50 1.4 too. It’s sharp but big. The SL with MF glass is great, press the joystick to magnify zone, fine focus, click. I shoot all my SL model stuff / weddings like that.

@sebastiang7183 Жыл бұрын

Sigma lenses are terrible. They can compete with some of the best current optics at a fraction of the cost. How are those other companies supposed to remain profitable? In seriousness, I am not sure about Sigma. I have seen some truly excellent sample images when the light is right. Great dimensional feel. However, I have also seen some images that look flat with dull colors. Furthermore, the lenses seem to break quite frequently. I have some friends whose sigma lenses stopped performing and developed issues.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

Thanks Sebastian (and now i'm ready for your humour!) :D Agreed great value and sharp but I don't want to buy L mount lenses as I can't use them on film bodies. (Like Leica CL/TL lenses that then get discontinued).

@sebastiang7183 Жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom That is where I ended up so I can have one set of lenses for multiple bodies. I ended up with film SLR lenses. I can use them with 35mm film. I can use them with FF mirrorless. I can use them on APS-C mirrorless and even with a speed booster if I want. The SLR lenses behave better on mirrorless camera's than rangefinder lenses. I have a few modern auto focus lenses for certain shooting conditions, but I keep the number very limited. Most lens progress that has been made is in improving performance at wider apertures on fast lenses like f/1.4. Usually by f/2.8 and almost always by f/4 those older film lenses are showing little difference between old and modern. At least on older high-quality lenses. I have found out that when I can I prefer to shoot from at least f/2.8 or f/4. I am not that into shallow DOF even on portraits. I do shoot at f/1.4 or f/2 but seldom.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

@@sebastiang7183 yes! I love the R glass

@sebastiang7183 Жыл бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I love the R glass in all but weight. Those are some heavy lenses. You can't take many of those and avoid shoulder surgery in the future. In fairness, this is both an advantage and disadvantage. The weight helps reduce shake and helps with vibrations from mirror movement in a SLR. Due to the weight, I have better success hand holding in low light and slow shutter speeds. On the other hand, I have more issues carrying all that weight especially up inclines. Luckily, they had some good zooms like the 35-70/F4 that addresses the problem of carrying multiple heavy lenses.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын

@@sebastiang7183 pick the small ones, 50/2, 90/2.8 and yes 35-70 is great

@powderedtoastman3093 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like Sigma did well on this one. They normally have copy issues with calibration problems. They probably said we better make this one count because it’s going to be put on the best camera brand… they didn’t want to look bad 😂

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын

haha yes I think they have up'd their game in recent years. Quality felt very good (and you may know that the new Leica 24-70 is a rebaged Sigma so Leica must approve too) (I know they of couse worked together with the Leica R cameras/ lenses too)