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@larrya7822Ай бұрын
I got my private single engine VFR in 1976, it cost me a little under $2,000. Using a Cessna 150 ($15 / hr. ). The instructor was $12 / hr. A 172 was $22 / hr. A Ramco champ (Old cloth wing, tail dragger) cost was only $12 / hr. I learn how to fly a T-34 Beechcraft (old Navy trainer, retractable, variable pitch prop, around 220 knots) at $40 / hr. I was 16 at the time just working in a restaurant bussing tables. It took me close to a year to get my VFR.
@filly883Ай бұрын
Yup nowadays the economy is so bad
@matthew-oc5oeАй бұрын
Bro bought a helicopter at 16 bussing tables and kids these days can’t even afford rent 💀
@jameswalker59022 күн бұрын
@@matthew-oc5oe Bro didn't buy the helicopter, he rented it per his hourly figures. Big difference. 16 yr olds today could do the same thing. It costs 10x as much, but they probably make 10x as much as Larry did.
@ViperVideo17 күн бұрын
Try 100x as much. Kids can't afford it unless they saved for 5 years assuming they can save 20k a year which likely isn't possible.
@AaronSchwarz4214 күн бұрын
Ater paying for all our life's expenses we have about $1000 per month left over. Thats with no children and only one kitty. We are relatively well off in terms of vehicles, and toys, but lower income for the area. Most apartments nearby are $3000+ per month and more like $4000 when you pay for parking and utilities. Paying $25,000 to get a pilots license eats up more than 2 years of our monthly income surplus or fudge room in our budget, but what if one of the cars needs a repair? I save and invest the extra we save to multiply the earnings a little bit faster than inflation eats away the value of the currency (USD2024 or Dollars)
@EricFB2 ай бұрын
Great video, just a few things you forgot to mention is that with Robinson, it’s 2200hrs OR 12 years. Meaning you can buy new. Fly 100 hours over 12 years and now your basically brand new helicopter needs a complete overhaul. And that any $60000 R22 will either be timed out or nearly timed out. That said you are right in that it is still the cheapest certified helicopter. Cheers man stay safe
@carel20081Ай бұрын
Exactly! I also did the math....
@greggkiest10694 ай бұрын
Im so glad i was directed to your channel a few months ago. Enjoy both you and your content. Thanks.
@gwgrote52 ай бұрын
I just found your channel. This is so cool! I appreciate all that you are explaining to us. 🚁
@OBIWON-YAH29 күн бұрын
Outstanding vids, watched a few other pilots vids online but watching yours renewed my interest big time 👍
@mrbigw1004 ай бұрын
I fly a R22 in Australia and muster cattle with it at a property in the Northern Territory only thing with the Robinson design is in certain circumstances you can cause a negative G mast bump and cut your tail boom off with the main rotor blades a pilot a few years ago did this at the station I work on did this while mustering and didn’t make it
@Paradoxical1244 ай бұрын
How much does that cost you to operate hourly?
@mrbigw1004 ай бұрын
@@Paradoxical124 with insurance inspections ,fuel,parts etc it’s about $620 Aussie dollars a hr as they are getting old we have 9 R22’s and 4 R44’s and a new R66 which has turbine engine
@Paradoxical1244 ай бұрын
@@mrbigw100 I’m Australian too, and I am looking into using something like a small Robinson for personal use. Thanks for the insight!
@N603E4 ай бұрын
Enjoyed watching video. From one Robinson owner to the other. Be careful and always respect the helicopter. Fly safe and enjoy!
@MajorCaliber2 ай бұрын
Friends don't let friends fly Robinsons! #SafetyRecord #GetA_Bo105
@N603E2 ай бұрын
@@MajorCaliber Ha! When I began flying, 1986, the Bell 206 was the trainer. Not as many opportunities in my area to train in turbine aircraft. Many R44's around here for training
@rayconder96902 ай бұрын
49% of all accidents and 54% of fatal helicopter accudents. Some organisations will not allow staff to fly in robinson
@keeferdog56172 ай бұрын
Looks fun! Reminds me a little of flying my ultralight back in the day. Fly safe
@ShukokaiStuАй бұрын
Brilliant! Many thanks for sharing this from Edinburgh, UK. 👍🚁
@gumotx4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Very interesting!
@mattylp84 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@peterjones46214 ай бұрын
Looks like fun and it's an expensive venture, totally enjoyable video, thank you!
@MU-24 ай бұрын
Over the years, I’ve had the opportunity to shoot video and still photography from the R22, Hughes 300 and Bell 47. I loved them all, particularly the Bell. But then as a fixed wing pilot I’m enamored with anything that flies, regardless of whether the wings are fixed or spin. What types of commercial work do you do?
@CM-vy2ceАй бұрын
About to use my GI BILL. Thank you for making this. This is the chopper I want buy first also. Great video
@TramJizzle2 ай бұрын
I know nothing about helicopters and you couldn't pay me to ever fly in one but the engineering to make one fly is amazing and your presentation was to the point and gave me a great appreciation on the subject, thanks !!
@64ADdudeАй бұрын
I'm a retired Army 64 pilot. Flown thousands of hours and didn't die once!
@johnsteichen5239Ай бұрын
Yup, you know nothing about flying.
@HoveringHelicopter2 ай бұрын
New Sub! I took a Ride in a R22 years ago. SUPER FUN and COOL! And it ain't cheap....
@FrietjeOorlog4 ай бұрын
"I'm on an island surrounded by water" Isn't that kinda the definition of an island? 😆
@Optora.4 ай бұрын
That's like "worlds smallest in the world" haha
@watashiandroid83144 ай бұрын
You could be in Iceland and be on an island surrounded by lava 😮
@Stormspotter9114 ай бұрын
I think the proper definition would have been ‘it’s a sandbar’. Years when I flew out of Creve Couer and Spirit, a bunch of the Cub pilots used to fly the Missouri and land on the sandbars.
@DerekFrampton3 ай бұрын
So... at current prices for trucks, cars, SUV's... the 60k-100k range is normal/reasonable. Then maintenance,cost per ownership year... VERY reasonable especially if you're getting work returns commercially or even privately. Thanks for the share!
@bhargavnaidu80974 ай бұрын
One such thing interesting to make a note “view” . Glad you got one for yourself & Appreciate your work to inspire to have one though.God bless you 😇🙏🏻
@itsjustbonnie64184 ай бұрын
Amazing video matt would love to see more videos from you
@tiltcraft33914 ай бұрын
been here since 10k im pretty sure. love the videos man
@Kulis7473 ай бұрын
Easily get there on that particular sandbar with a Supercub and many other airplanes. That being said, I appreciate your video. I'm interested in adding a rotorwing aircraft and license to my fleet and certificates.
@jtocwru4 ай бұрын
This is a great video. No BS.
@ehudgavron90864 ай бұрын
First, I love watching your videos. Hamburger in a helicopter. Retiring school resource officer... in a helicopter. Cruising for a bruising... in a helicopter. Pretty cool. Depending on where you are, time-building can be challenging. Often a lifestyle change (that means "pack your stuff up and move") is more economical and easier than purchasing a helicopter. But hey. I love your videos. They remind me of a dream I once had. Keep living the dream! Ehud FAA Commercial pilot - rotorcraft Tucson, Arizona (Yes, in the summer DA is 5000-7000ft)
@riverblueskyАй бұрын
Thanks for the insights! I’m not looking to buy one 😂 but still interesting to know!😊
@jeffkissick57654 ай бұрын
Great video - thank you!
@sdfglkjhdfkjdhldskfj2 ай бұрын
You could also get there with a STOL aircraft and paramotors, both of which are cheaper.
@nightstorm98724 ай бұрын
What type of job do you have to pay for all this?
@mattylp84 ай бұрын
I am a pilot. I bought the helicopter to build time for my career.
@NorthAviation_4 ай бұрын
@@mattylp8 well, i think you misunderstood. They are asking what you did to afford your helicopter, private pilots license, etc. 😊
@nickwind25844 ай бұрын
ikr, he certainly isn't taking out student loans. i guess i'll just have to stick to microsoft flight simulator.
@KaisTheFireWarrior4 ай бұрын
Most likely family money. Not trying to say he's spoiled, but if he bought this with only his earned money before becoming a pilot, then I don't think he'll be changing careers I can tell you that if he's making that much money. Edit: So I found out the helicopter is owned by Time Kepp with "Sky River Helicopters" which is a helicopter tour company. I'm guessing it's being leased right now but that's TBD.
@Orbedd4 ай бұрын
@@NorthAviation_he just said he’s a pilot. That’s his job
@ClearedAsFiled4 ай бұрын
Just love the sound of those rotor blades...!!!!!
@DuckyYtGaming4 ай бұрын
Good video! Keep up the work
@mattylp84 ай бұрын
Thanks Ducky!
@adamwynyard4065Ай бұрын
Very useful video , when people need videos on how to afford food or health care
@kevincarr3352 ай бұрын
How do you move the helicopter to the hanger?. I assume you can't just lift it.
@user-yo3kf9fl5dАй бұрын
My sister worked at Robinson in Torrance for years. Some of the testing they did was crazy for the FAA
@williambyrnes4198Ай бұрын
Just for people that would like to know. If you want to get both Privet Pilot License (PPL) for airplane (Fixed Wing) and Helicopter (Rotor Wing) then get the airplane first because it can help cut combined cost because 20 hours of your fixed wing counts toward your rotor wing.
@FlyingFun.2 ай бұрын
I wanted to learn here in the uk prices are much higher and not doable for me unless i sold my house and lived in the heli lol. Had a trial lesson though and loved it. But in reality i get my kicks from motorcycles, embt and drone racing and enjoy life. If i ever come into serious money though i know id be getting into a heli.
4 ай бұрын
Nice numbers videos!
@paulweatherford5544Ай бұрын
We use to use R22 for detailed lidar flights for topography. Now we have drones. Although our drones cost more, better end product using an iPad. Actual flight time was much better though.
@billeldon2 ай бұрын
What you call “depreciation” is really an hourly estimate of routine maintenance, if I’m not mistaken.
@joewilliams41424 ай бұрын
Did you complete your fixed wing first ?
@coelncopter4 ай бұрын
Great video! Do you fly other types?
@EmilyTienne2 ай бұрын
Nicely done. Thank you!
@crashm1612 ай бұрын
Don't forget about composite-fx/mosquitos! They are FAA regulated helicopters. Only caveat is that they only seat one person. Cool people, made in Trenton, Florida!
@spencerstrombergАй бұрын
When you land outside your hangar, does it roll or do you have a dolly to move it in?
@yougeekyouАй бұрын
If I understand your reference to depreciation of $63/hr, do you mean after 2200 hours (the TBO? or airframe useful life?) it costs $138K to go through the bird and zero the time? A little googling I did says you can reman the motor and go through the rest of the bird... replace rotor blades, etc. and keep it airworthy... so is that ~$138K?
@AverageLizardMan4 ай бұрын
how much communication with atc do you need if you take off from your house and land at some random place like an island like you showed?
@anguswebby224324 күн бұрын
It depends if you’re operating within controlled airspace. If you’re in uncontrolled airspace it is good practice to make periodic calls on the local area frequency. Usually this includes aircraft callsign, location, altitude, track and destination.
@dumbcat2 ай бұрын
do you fear mast bump in this whirlybird?
@porschecarreras992cabriole84 ай бұрын
In Europe and in the UK prices are higher to own one of them. And R22 takes just one passenger so they are great for training but not much for commercial use. Then you need the R44 that costs more. I also considered buying one but I find Porsches more fun still and more usable fun.
@jirrove16 күн бұрын
On aircraft24 I found R22 even at $60k , what is the catch?
@porschecarreras992cabriole816 күн бұрын
@@jirrovemost likely needs a rebuild
@dumbcat2 ай бұрын
short and to the point. i like it
@robertnjos34564 ай бұрын
As small as the helicopter is, it's still a lot of money That's a rich man's game. But it looks like a tone of fun.
@sharonbraselton31353 ай бұрын
Goid sibg working 9 too 5 working day nit Gering any ware
@TS-qd2uj2 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting and kudos to you for trusting such thin tubing. It obviously works given how many are out there, but as a Bell Medium guy, you'd never convince me to ride in one. Regardless, respect to "one of us"!❤
@sjege3 ай бұрын
Getting a helicopter license here in the Netherlands is a minimum of 40k (6 months, 45 h min)
@nicholashartzler22054 ай бұрын
I could absolutely plant my bone stock Cessna 150 on that sand bar lol
@trevorsmith77532 ай бұрын
Good luck taking off though.
@twisted_panties2 ай бұрын
And there it would stay forever.
@TailormanUK2 ай бұрын
This is one of the most interesting and informative video I've seen for a good while. Way, way out of my price range, unfortunately.
@chief988b72 ай бұрын
Yep....your on an island.....hope you don't break down or have any maintenance issues!
@bradfullwood67724 ай бұрын
Great video!
@mattylp84 ай бұрын
Thanks Brad!
@07rammi4 ай бұрын
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@malkobitches4 ай бұрын
Sir, how do I migrate to India? I currently live in Australia - I would like to come somewhere nice.
@jrs4ex2 ай бұрын
I want to visit Hyderabad looks like an amazing place and I love biryani.
@mattledbetter2 ай бұрын
Why didn’t you get your instructors certification to help build hours? That is what I have seen to be the most common path for commercial pilots.
@Snowcat89onXbox3604 ай бұрын
I spent maybe around $80-90,000 getting all of my helicopter ratings up to CFII. I get paid to build my flight time as a flight instructor. There will never be cheaper nor faster way of building flight time in a helicopter. But I have to admit, your method does seem like a ton of fun!
@MotorRod684 ай бұрын
What is the practical flight time / range in miles for this helicopter? How high do you fly in this helicopter?
@PigTheGodGamer9 күн бұрын
How do they know you got more time flying do you record yourself every time?
@AaronSchwarz4214 күн бұрын
There is a counter rotating backpack harness style helicopter ultralight that varies the speed of one or the other rotor to vector control steering without a tail-rotor, like some RC toys. I remember an electric model from Japan that was $6000, but could only fly for about 5 minutes before juicing the battery pack, known as a short hop device. Furthermore, electric car shaped quad rotor like Ehang 184, but kits, using commercial drone motors on all 4 corners like wheels on a car, varying the speed of the motors to control lift and vector steering, pitch, yaw and roll. Look up DIY personal flight devices or DIY flying machines.
@zdrux2 ай бұрын
"I'm on an island that's surrounded by.... water" Yep, that's an island! :)
@mike93ehАй бұрын
Do you fly or have flown helicopter tours at the lake of the ozarks? Im pretty sure you were my pilot years ago. I remember the pilot saying he was from st louis or st charles and came down to pilot at the lake
@SPREAD_IQ4 ай бұрын
Keep up the great work i love your videos
@user-rt2hs7he4wАй бұрын
Can u do a video how to start up the helicopter and how to take off and land it too
@theshazman4 ай бұрын
Private pilot with about ~80ish hours in Robinsons (mix of 22 and 44 but mostly 22 time). Thanks for the breakdown, looks more or less close to what I have been seeing here in NC. Rather than going with a 22 I am considering buying a 44 and renting it to our school so it makes some money while I am not flying it and it doubles as a time builder for when I am. I love flying the 22, it's what I usually fly due to how cheap it is per hour compared to the 44 but I would love to buy a used 44 and see if I can get to 1000 hours with it without breaking the bank. How many hours do you have left on that R22 before it needs a major overhaul? Just curious. It's a sweet bird and looks in mint condition. Cheers from Raleigh, NC!
@mattylp84 ай бұрын
I know of a few! Message me on Instagram!
@dans94632 ай бұрын
Can you put a parachute on it?
@adelguy674 ай бұрын
did not realize how expensive insurance was, how often do you have to renew your license, is it yearly?
@mattylp84 ай бұрын
Insurance is really expensive! I renew my pilots license every 2 years(Bi-annual flight review).
@bladi-senpai93984 ай бұрын
isnt that expensive, i was paying 500ish for a car monthly , so i take 750 for a helicopter any day!
@Optora.4 ай бұрын
@@bladi-senpai9398500 monthly for a car? I pay 480 a year in the best possible insurance plan, love small cars haha
@TheRotorhound4 ай бұрын
I owned one of the early R22s when they cost $90k plus and you flew it home from California. Insurance was $10k per year with a $10k deductible. I learned in a Bell47d, a very stable platform. The R22 is much harder to fly and much harder to do autorotations in. Little boys, little toys. It was fun when I was doing it but you aren’t going far in an R22. Nice video.
@meow121.53 ай бұрын
30% BMI boomer detected 😂
@philip27743 ай бұрын
@@meow121.5 meow
@AaronSchwarz4214 күн бұрын
Small experimental home built airplanes cost around $20K for the kit, engine, and under FAR103 no pilots license or sports license required, but the aircraft weight limit of 254lbs, which means very thin aluminum, fabric coated, or very thin pre-preg carbon in Teflon vacuum bags on molds into a large enough pressure cooker *autoclave* // thankfully some of the kits supply nearly everything that bolts together like an erecter set, nuts and bolts with cotter pins safety so they don't unscrew and come undone causing parts to disconnect midflight. Fokker Mark VIII kit less than $8000 with everything needed. 1 seater, so a sky toy, but that is the cheapest thing I can find other than a used paramotor.
@iabsoluteagreewithyourcomm14512 ай бұрын
Way cheaper then I was expecting, I thought training costed way more. I’m looking to get my private airplane licence for fun, in Canada
@danw194 ай бұрын
I fly fixed-wing out of your airport. Cool videos!
@bigbill104 ай бұрын
Same lol. Met him once, super friendly.
@LarryBinFL2 ай бұрын
Never owned a 'copter but owned a Cessna Cardinal RG and can confidently say that whatever you think an airplane will cost, it is more.
@paddedroom4124 ай бұрын
How about the Hughes 269 or Schweizer 300, those seem smaller than the R22.
@mattylp84 ай бұрын
Both are bigger(I believe)
@caseclosed93424 ай бұрын
Everything you need to get a pizza or see a movie! 😂
@ShanesHobbyShop4 ай бұрын
Thankyou for the video. I am more interested on how to get the turbine certification process. Plus, is there any difference in certification for a single turbine engine (R66) v/s a twin Turbine engine (Bell 429)and others like them.
@user-jq2rf4nf3o4 ай бұрын
That's not an issue, Mostly insurance requirements Certificate is good for everything rotary wing under 12,500 lbs . . . Piston or Turbine , Single or Twin - US No type rating , Some countries require a rating in each type ie: R-22, R-22 Standard, R-22 Hp, R-22 Alpha, R-22 Beta and Mariner . US you can fly all of them, In Japan you'll need a type rating in each,
@ShanesHobbyShop4 ай бұрын
@@user-jq2rf4nf3o thankyou
@RowanHawkins4 ай бұрын
The more engines you have the more gas you burn the more complex maintenance and service is.
@ShanesHobbyShop4 ай бұрын
@@RowanHawkins Oh im sure it is. I was just wondering if you needed an additional certification to fly with two turbines rather than with one
@bryanmaxwell7332Ай бұрын
Disconnect the Hobbs meter to save on depreciation…use Chevron high octane gas at $3.50 gallon…
@Newberntrains4 ай бұрын
"Only a helicopter can land here" Mike patey takes note and accepts the challenge lol
@jtocwru4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was thinking that there are lots of bush planes that could stick that landing.
@LandondelGamerАй бұрын
I have a question, if I owned a huge chunk of land, could I buy a helicopter and don't get a license as long as I don't leave my property?
@jaysont96Күн бұрын
You can in its an ultra light classification and youre flying in class G airspace. (This information is relevant for the United states only)
@scottyscave4 ай бұрын
The R22 and R44 have documented issues with delamination of the rotors. What is your opinion/thoughts on that?
@user-jq2rf4nf3o4 ай бұрын
The stainless skinned blades were problematic - They were phased out , Never had an issue with the ones I flew.
@scottyscave4 ай бұрын
@@user-jq2rf4nf3o Appreciate the reply. Retired mil pilot, safe flying. Cheers.
@user-jq2rf4nf3o4 ай бұрын
Ole Crew Chief OH 58, UH 1 CH 47 and Commercial Helicopter / 133 Flew nearly everything under 12,500 lb@@scottyscave
@noapologizes2018Ай бұрын
I fly a tiny Cessna fixed wing. when I was a kid, I dreamed of flying a Helicopter, but as an adult, vortex ring state scares the hell out of me.
@ronald8673Ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks
@timothyroberts83472 ай бұрын
I am just a private pilot fixed wing. Cessna 150 then 172 currently 182 . I would more than likely kill myself in a helicopter, they are too unforgiving when mistakes are made. But my hats off to you and your Helicopter fly high Sir
@cre8ive344 ай бұрын
Without getting too personal, are you independently wealthy? I'm 50 and recently took a check ride in a 22. I was planning on doing the same.thing and getting my private pilots license. It was fun and I would love to do it and could justify the costof getting my license, but I'm prob too old to try it to make a career out of it and the cost Is prohibitive to get the recommended hours before any company would hire you. You have youth on your side.... .My son wants to fly helos, so he is going to go to college thru ROTC and try to go thru Army Avation route. Good luck and happy flying. At least we can live vicariously thru you😅
@highlightcentral4913 ай бұрын
If you have a ppl for plane is helicopter something I can add like an endorsement or rating ?
@waverlycole14922 ай бұрын
You can add a helicopter to your ppl, but it is not enough endorsement
@chasemccall391Ай бұрын
Hey my man don’t forget about sea planes. They can get there also 😂
@NeokingTech4 ай бұрын
Do you fly professionally for work? Or how did you manage to afford lessons? I'm thinking of getting my PPL but want to start with planes first
@RowanHawkins4 ай бұрын
Getting your fixed wont be super effective for getting roto, its a different skillset other than the map and radio stuff which. everything mechanical is different from how you do eyes out of the cockpit.
@Acesmcnugget17 күн бұрын
I like how you said you could explain the price range being almost $300k then never did lol.
@Ducatijay72Ай бұрын
No interest in helicopters but this was really interesting, safe flying / hovering 😊
@richardwessel78362 ай бұрын
Why is less anti torque input needed, when a helicopter achieves translational lift?
@foxtrot3122 ай бұрын
Tail rotor?
@Nimi.BriggsАй бұрын
How much money does it cost to be trained as an helicopter pilot please.
@ParkerRyanPerforms19 күн бұрын
So i have a question….. what do you do when your Airframe reaches 12k hours? Which for most trainers that are in the market is where your under 100k price point is….. Also you forgot to mention that you have to go to Robbinson to train before you can own one….. which is pretty standard. Also your forgetting your biggest cost which is to insure you and it……. Great video but that’s a big expense not to mention, also I believe for you to even be insurable , you have to have X number of hours in type. Which you can do in training but still at 489 dollars an hour wet….. what r we doing?
@Biggles-7473 ай бұрын
Robinsons always have "surprise" costs.
@Gmar693 ай бұрын
Yeah, this was my starter helicopter to get my private license too. It's a handful.
@niceguy603 ай бұрын
Kobe pilot learned how to fly on the R22
@nicholase199153 ай бұрын
Great video thanks bro
@notgonnalie2956Күн бұрын
Honestly inshurance is deal breaker. But assuming that all of inshurances all together went sky rocketing then hopefully prices will went down a bit. Other that is actually not expensive if you can buy yourself a nice piece up until 100k
@mikesahle11933 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏 great 👍 flying video 🎥specially ☝️price 🚁🚁👏👏👏👍🎥☮️👋
@GOBRENDON2 ай бұрын
You could also land and take off there in a bush plane😉
@wickedsatan12 ай бұрын
What is its range?
@MoonLiteNiteАй бұрын
@2:46 i do this for my cars too. Like i could buy car X, but it will cost me 0.60$/mi vs another car that is at 0.05$/mi