Hey Guys! Clarification on the Vice City part of the video: Vice City on the PS2 originally released with a game breaking bug, that if you saved at the Cherry Poppers Ice Cream Company, there a good chance it will corrupt your save. Rockstar did fix this with future revision of the PS2 verison. This lead many people to have all of their progress gone hours into the game, simply by saving it. When i made the video, that save issue + comparing it to the OG Xbox port that released after was my rational behind it. Thank you for letting me know, as it only helps me improve and want to become better at making content! ❤ Here is the article that covers the glitch: screenrant.com/gta-vice-city-ice-cream-factory-save-glitch-corrupted/

If you evee feel useless remember this dude played PS2 backups from a 1.1 USB and blamed the game for having awful load times 💀💀

C'mon, man. You're running your backups through the PS2's USB 1.1 speeds which are far slower than the disc drive. That explains the 3-minute loading times you kept complaining about, and the constant hitching in L.A. Rush. For realistic loading times you should burn your games to DVD-Rs in ESR format for use with FreeDVDBoot, or just use real copies. (Also consider cleaning the lens for this!)

Dude runs PS2 games from USB 1.1 and complains about load times 😂

>complains about loading times >runs ps2 games through USB lmao

Vice City is a bad PS2 port? what? this game was literally meant to be play on PS2 like every other 3Dera GTA

Half-Life 1's PS2 port is pretty good, the only bad thing that i would say is some of the loading times between certain levels and the fact that Blue Shift & Opposing Force never came to PS2

23:25 USB??? USB on PS2 is known to be too slow, especially for FVM cutscenes. I wouldn't recommend playing anything over USB.

I have some criticisms on this. - You went for the low hanging fruit. The graphics, of course if you put the PC version next to PS2 it is going to look better. - Don't use emulation when reviewing ports. Always use original hardware and physical discs. Free McBoot has issues. - COD World at war final fronts is more so different game than port.

This video is pretty bad, i'm sorry.

If you're running games off of a USB drive on a modded ps2 it's obvious you're gonna get way longer times than everyone else as they run over USB 1.0 Ps2 games that run from an HDD or DVD run and load almost alike

The reason the PS2 version of RE4 didn't quite look as good as the Gamecube version had nothing to do with the extra content. It was simply due to the fact that the PS2 wasn't as powerful as the Gamecube. The textures were sharper on the Gamecube and therefore looked slightly better.

12:45 Max Payne “shoehorned” in the bullet time mechanic? What?

this dude thinks GTA Vice City and Half-Life 1 on PS2 are "terrible" ports lmao

Vice City was literally built for PS2. The game suffers from a crapton of bugs on Xbox/PC like transparency issues, missing map props, GTA3 leftover assets and poorer audio quality. Just because the PS2 had interlaced image, doesn't make it a bad version. RE4 is another one that isn't bad, again, the GC (and Xbox) were much better at hiding jaggies due to the larger RAM that offered superior progressive scan image. The only other difference is color palette. Mafia is more of console VS PC as mentioned, rather than PS2 VS all other systems. The other games are correct. I'd say the games that suffered the most were the cross-gen licensed games, a lot of them were rebuilt for PS2 and Wii or just have straight up missing content when compared to the 360/PS3. They wanted to support the PS2 for long and after 2006 we really started seeing some stinkers.

I think RE4 port is not bad at all. I consider it a miracle, considering hardware limitations and the fact that they ran it on the Onimusha engine. The GC version is of course the best choice. Regarding Vice City, it's not a port but the first version that was published. Yes, it was blurry and the framerate was unstable but definitively not a port. Nice video as usual :)

Half-Life? That was a great port with a unique co-op campaign

My first experience of Max Payne 1 and 2 were on the PS2 and it wasn't till much later I got to enjoy the PC originals. In 2 on the PS2 there is a cutscene were Max jumps out of a building and he grabs hold of a rail but he doesn't even grab hold of the rail instead clips through it a bit. I'm also pretty sure PS2 magazines used images from the 360 version of Just Cause as I remembered seeing it advertised for it, thinking it looked really nice then being disappointed.

You mentioned running one of the games off a USB drive. From what I've heard, this makes loading screens longer. Is this the case for all the games you've tested in this video?

First time I ever played RE4 was on the PS2 back in 2010. Looking back, the audio and visual qualities are lacking compared to the GC version.

I played the RE4 port on a CRT back in the day, so the roughness of the port went under the radar, but surprisingly a good amount of the original quality was squeezed in with the limitations the PS2 had.

The red 9 was in the original GameCube version though

The Sonic games got the short end of the stick when it comes to PS2 ports. It's clear that SEGA was prioritizing the Nintendo platforms more, and taking advantage of Xbox's power, with the PS2 feeling like they put it there just because the platform is popular. But damn, as someone who grew up playing on PS2 (family PC is not really suitable for gaming, struggling to even run PS2-era games, up until like 2017), I am thankful for the series being on the PS2 for so long that I was able to play a lot of the games.

HL1 is amazing on ps2, it even has better models than the og pc version and runs on 60fps most of the time lol And dont forget Decay... sheesh

To say that Max Payne 'shoehorned in' bullet-time is crazy. That game made it what it is today

Recently, I noticed that the ps2 port of re4 had a slightly different Ganado theme. I kinda prefer it tbh.

My man, you forgot Spiderman Web Of Shadows. Not only its a complete demake, it literally changed the game's genre from a 3d open world to a 2.5d sidescroller. Great job with the rest of the video tho. Now I want to play some of those games again but in their best version to see what did I miss. I played Mercenaries 2, totally disappointed when I saw how different were the other versions.

CoD 3 PS2 was my first CoD game so i hold it dearly. Multi on Xbox was terrific. CoD 3 was missing veteran difficulty as well if I remember correctly.

I still say the Wii version of RE4 was the best version of the game. They put a lot of effort into getting the motion controls to work and not just be a gimmick. It was SO fluid!

Star Trek: Elite Force gets progressively worse as you play. The Borg mission at the beginning is the best performing in the entire game. Keep playing to the last level with all the Harvesters rushing you the frame rate tanks to PowerPoint levels of animation.

Bro Spider-Man 3 was definitely not shitty

Funny to have 3/4 of the actual gameplay ripped from other channels, then proceed to give completely brain dead opinions over most the games. KZfaq in a nutshell these days.

12:27 Whoah whoah whoah, the PS2 version of Half-Life is the best version period, and i'll stand by that.

Great video but I will not stand by this RE4 PS2 slander. Yes it had the extra content like you mentioned, but also it played just as good as the GC version. And the fact that they were able to make it happen at all is a miracle. I honestly couldn't care less if the visuals took a hit. Also, I wasn't aware Mercenaries 2 released on PS2, I need to track that one down! That looks like some goooood garbo!! One last thing, do Xbox next! (if you haven't already)

The original version of Resident Evil 4 for PC was so bad that when I tried the PS2 version felt like a massive improvement. Like, the game was actually playable and the controls worked! I mean yeah, compared to the Gamecube it's an inferior version from a technical point of view but for PS2 standards it runs perfectly. Sadly my PS2 died along the way and never managed to finish it there, pretty sad because I was having a great time. I'm gonna blame Metal Gear 2/3 and their long ass never ending cutscenes for that.

Am I the only one who enjoyed Max Payne so much on the PS2?

1:30 "new weapons" shows iconic weapon from original version lol

I will never ever be able to hear the phrase "life cycle" without thinking of Goldman from House Of The Dead 2;

12:28 guy put the hl1 port that has a entire extra campaign and better character models on a list of bad ps2 ports

I remember playing many of these titles from video on PS2, and many of these games were released when Xbox 360, and PS3 was presented on market. So, many of these ports actually pretty decent, when you consider how old PS2 hardware was in 2007-2009. To compare Crysis released in 2007.

Here’s two poor PS2 ports I have. Sonic Unleashed: While not as sloppily made port like the PS2 ports of Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog and certainly is at best playable, it still leaves a lot to be desired. It is a direct port of the Nintendo Wii version and oh boy. The graphics looked horrendous to the point where it looks worse than the original Dreamcast version of Sonic Adventure from a decade prior, the compression on the pre rendered cutscenes looked noticeable, the load times can get quite long and the game doesn’t even have 16:9 widescreen support. In 2008 where Widescreen TVs were becoming the norm. If you can look past those faults, then the PS2 port of Sonic Unleashed is at best playable. But at the same time, there’s much better options to play the game. Secret Agent Clank: I’ve never played the PS2 ports of both Ratchet & Clank Size Matters and Jak & Daxter The Lost Frontier so I can’t really comment. I have played Secret Agent Clank on PS2 and oh boy it was a mess. The load times are so horrendous that they can almost be as bad as Sonic 06’s load times as they came take up to around 30 seconds and they happen when you boot up the game, load your save file and select a level. The compression on the Pre Rendered cutscenes was also a joke as the audio sounded muffled and the pixelisation was atrocious. Not only that, but I recall some glitches in the game. Yeah just stay well away from this horrid port. It’s a shame that although Ratchet & Clank helped make the PlayStation 2 a household name, their last outing on the system went out on such a sour note.

Spiderman 3 slander won't be taken lightly! Funny that RE4 is probably my most played ps2 game, I've beaten Leon's campaign 15 times and Ada's 4-5 times, Great extras like the Mercenaries and the short but still fun Assignment Ada, They make RE4 PS2 a superior experience over Gamecube version. Edit: My bad, Seems like everything but Separate Ways are included in the Gamecube version but to me, It feels like It's a worthy enough addition that puts the game a tiny bit higher than the Gamecube version, But i will say it is the worst of the bunch when it comes to all the other real & definitive version ports of the game.

RE4 is NOT a bad port wtf, one of the PS2's best games.

Great video. Just one small nitpick: the og version is not called a port. It’s just the original. It’s a minor quibble but it bugs me a little all the same.

Did you really whine about loadtimes while playing the games off of a USB stick? That's like complaining about the rough ride in a car after you removed all of the air from the tires.

Making this video was a mistake...

>Shitty Raimi Movie >Loves MSM 2 bruh whats wrong with you

How is double agent a "demake" on the previous Gen hardware? Ubisoft made version 1 for PS3/360 and version 2 for Ps2/xbox/GC. I played both and theyre quite a bit different from each other. Vice city is not a port as the PS2 was the first system the game was released on. And RE4 may be inferior to the GC version but it was still loads of fun. Good vid though.

Great video! The biggest crime of the mafia port for the ps2 is that it was used as the basis for the Xbox port as well. Regardless how anyone might feel about the og Xbox, it was capable of way more than the ps2, technically.

>Based on that shitty Sam Raimi movie from 2007 -Me when I have the wrong opinion

Call of Duty WaW Final Fronts is a completely different game, worth playing for that campaign on a PS2 - Just found it thrifting!

You have to give credit to Half-Life PS2 that the rock textures and the character models look nicer than they do in the PC version.

How many games are you running from the USB that could be a factor in loading

Have played ps2 deus ex recently for a couple hours honestly it really wasn't that bad. Yes its more simplified than the pc original but i think its for the better

Re4 on the PS2 gets an easy pass for me because it was the first time we saw the “DLC”. But when it comes to RE4 en general, the Wii version is easily the best port for me!

Good video, but RE4 is a great port, and all the ports mentioned in the "honorable mentions" sections are fucking amazing (especially Half-Life on PS2). And Vice City on PS2 was the first version made for it. Just delete the segment for RE4 and the Honorable Mentions section and you're golden.

People really still be thinking spider man 3 is a bad movie lmao

i'm so glad I played Deus Ex on the PS2 first, I loved it so much, and when I went to play on the PC it was like playing a whole new game

I remember back when I was in high school my friend talked me into buying RE4 on PS2. I played it for 5 minutes and felt motion sick and couldn't get the hang of the controls so rather than returning it, I just left it on the shelf to collect dust. Probably 6 or so years later, I had watched my brother playing the remaster and I was actually getting into it watching him. Decided to say fuck it and give it another shot. I played through 2 or 3 chapters then bought it on PS4. What an amazing game man, honestly. My friend was right.

My first experience of RE4 was on PS2, not gonna lie, and it was still one of the best games I've played at that generation, but I'd still prefer the PS4 version over any of them for clearer visuals, bettter framerate and all. As for Max Payne games, I'd rather stick with the PC versions just for the sole reason of having the ability to quick-save.

A few of these games (Spider-man 3, Call of Duty 3 and Tony Hawk's Proving Ground for example) I only played on Wii, so I know what it's like feeling like you're missing out compared to the "big boy" consoles. I often get that feeling with Switch ports too.

Did you call Spiderman 3 shitty? take that back

RE4 is in no way a bad port. It is an inferior port to the GameCube version, but there was never a scenario in which the PS2 could have matched the GameCube version. Anyone who calls it a bad port is probably too young to have experienced it in its own time, and are speaking wholly without context.

“You can dump your ass” is now my favorite way to say take a shit thank you, subscribed.😂

I found it hard to get an original copy of Vice City. I heard it had less censorship and the gas grenades made the game run low on FPS, but I didn't have that problem. It's a shame they removed them. I never heard about the Cherry Popper glitch

this is really lazy content. lots of very blatant mistakes here

Nice video!! I watched your videos for a few months and they are great keep up the good work! Your last video about og gta was sooo good it made me buy a ps3 for the first time, now i have to homebrew it and i can play og gta, Thanks bro!!

spider-man 3 on the ps2 may have bad graphics, but so does the ps3 version, plus the web swinging on the ps3 version looks like it is constantly holding the player back, while the ps2 port have a similar (but not exactly the same) web swinging mechanic to the second game I much prefer play the ps2 port anyday than the ps3 port

Resident Evil 4 on PS2 was a bit of a miracle port given how closely it matched the Gamecube version, especially given how it was tailor made for Nintendo's hardware. The same would apply to Just Cause and Splinter Cell, since these worked to the strengths of top-end PC hardware of the era, the fact that either are on PS2 is amazing to consider. I wouldn't give Deus Ex on PS2 a hardtime either since it is a complex PC game being compacted onto a machine with barely any RAM. The loading times and performance can be disappointing but Deus Ex is still well worthwhile on PS2 due to the scale of the world and writing in general. LA Rush, nor Rocky, were ports, they were simply rushed to market so played glitchy as a result. Spider-Man 3 and Call of Duty 3 were just disappointing games. Mafia, Max Payne 1 and 2 all deserved better PlayStation 2 conversions. Fun fact about Wipeout Pulse: It is a European-only PS2 port, and sells for crazy money now. I never knew it had a memory card breaking bug though, I remember Jak X having something similar and that was enough to put me off playing it. Your issue with FMVs on Mercenaries 2 is purely memory stick related. The read/write rates are not very fast via USB on PS2.

I was really surprised to see Grand Theft Auto: Vice City mentioned considering that not only is the Playstation 2 version the best out of all versions because it has the most licensed music before songs started getting removed in future releases, but also because the game literally launched exclusively for the Playstation 2 back in the day. Half-Life for PS2 was also pretty solid, but the audio quality was really bad for some reason. Honestly the games I thought has the worst Playstation 2 ports were all of the Guitar Hero games from World Tour onwards. The series started on PS2 and looked great even when Guitar Hero III and Aerosmith were mainly created for next gen consoles. I don't know wtf happened with World Tour onwards, but those PS2 ports were *rough*

Spider-man 3 is the best movie ever, you just weren't ready for it.

Would be cool to see the best ports ever made video

I still don't get how they butchered my boy Max Payne on the PS2. They seem like easy ports compared to complex stuff like Deus Ex.

World at war on PS2 is not a port, it s another game

My first Max Payne playthrough was with the PS2 version, didn't know of better, so I just tolerated it. Totally different experience on PC. As for RE4, I played it 2-3 times on PS2 and thought it was fine. Speaking of RE4, I know that the initial PC version release was terrible, no shading etc. However, I remember installing something called "RE4+", which was a version patched both officially and by fans. Combined with a PS pad, I found that version to be excellent - however, it's hard to find any info about it these days, you just get the damn remake with any search. I still have it burned on a DVD and will probably just install that if I ever feel like playing it again.

I enjoy watching ur videos good job!

the bad ps2 ports I know of are Godzilla save the earth, rampage total destruction and Godzilla Unleashed

Dude... You complained about the loading times and you're using the WORST possible way to play these games! USB loading is trash and you're limited to USB 1.1! If you're playing on a fat PS2, get a network adapter and put a HDD in there! If you're playing on a Slim PS2 either network load your games or use a MX4SIO, you're gonna see way better load times. Your Mercenaries 2 footage shows why USB devices sucks for loading PS2 games unless they're simple like DDR for example.

According to Critical Nobody Double Agent on PS2 is actually pretty good and way better than the other PS2 versions which had a lot of cut content, I actually prefer that version over the next gen one, especially the PC port which is completely broken

I know it was just an Honorable mention but I just wanted to say Half Life on ps2 is rough but I would argue that its still a really enjoyable experience and offers a unique way to play half life since the ps2 has a lot of differences from the pc version

Aside from the cross generation releases like Mercenaries 2, LA RUSH and Just Case, all other games are decent considering the context of release. You mention that the PC version run better, of course it does, but would require a PC that cost 4 to 5 times the price of a PS2. Also, the low resolution and interlancing of the PS2 version does not look bad on a CRT TV of the time. Therefore, these comparisons are unfair.

Half Life 1 on the PS2 is objectively the best vanilla way to play Half Life. Updated models and textures, full mouse and keyboard support, steady framerate, split screen co-op expansion campaign. The only better way to play would be the emulate a PS2 at 4K.

You put some fucking respect on spiderman 3, that was a cinematic masterpiece.

So Wipeout could literally _wipe out_ all your save data ... 🤔 That is not even ironic.

LA Rush was a horrible game in general when it came to performance, every LA Rush port has horrible glitches and performance. But the game itself isn’t actually bad it just lacks to many features like cat customization 😢 Edit: The reason project 8 had no online on PS3 was because when the ps3 came out you couldn’t connect online until the PSN update

I was always a dude that can only have one console in each generation, and I regret having chosen the PS2 over the XBox back then. I was still with my PS1 and I wanted to play safe

11:04 as a 6yo kid I loved LA Rush without even knowing its name, now I know it, I don't have it anymore to play it, I don't care if the PS2 port is a bad port, I wanna play it on a PS2 again

How dare you insult spider man 3 movie? 💀

This channel is a real gem with unique content like this

Calling RE4 a bad port is so laughable. Interestingly Scarface for PS2 is the best version, despite Xbox and PC having "HD" versions. One of the few titles impossible to emulate on a PS3.

Dude Rocky has always looked like that, other than that very informative video sir

ay man thanks for the shout-out, wasn't expecting it tbh, nice suprise. that Wipeout Pulse port is really horrid lmao, it's bad enough that Wipeout only got two games on the PS2, and one of them is a sub-standard port. still, I've always considered Wipeout Fusion the better of the two games plus a standout from the entire franchise (and my personal fave).

i wanna replay san andreas on my ps3, should i get the ps2 version or the remastered ps3 version?

So, yeash, that PS2 SpiderMan 3 game is actually the psp version upscaled. It's why it looks REALLY low res

I spit out my water when the rocky portion was shown lmao

shadow the hedgehog should be on this list too

Resident Evil 4 was better on GC, but I still had fun playing the PS2 port. The extra content was worth a buy. I'm more disappointed we didn't get an original Xbox port of RE4. Half Life PS2 was a good port. Shame we never got Opposing Force and Blue Shift on PS2 or consoles in general. I think the PS2 port of Return to Castle Wolfenstein wasn't as good as the Xbox version and the pc original.

Vice City was literally made for PS2 lmao

Very cool video, i subbed!

Lol ps2 re4's blury visuals kinda add to the horror aesthetics if you play it at night with a old tv