Thanks didnt know about that

it is absolutely much better, since if you're not playing on your own hosted server, you attack input has delay after inputing wearing armor, making it far worse. it is what is universal, not requiring you to play on hosted server of your own. its basically just hold f, and time your inputs for directional movement (wasd for default keyboards), in my experience clicking makes it worse, since timing a quick press for a button is easier than placing your cursor perfectly in a spot + clicking without moving the cursor (you can lift the mouse off your table/surface but if you need to you and item it'll be more trouble). its lag comp on type of animation cancel that you can see used very often in forge servers. there is another time of animation canceling, of target swapping, its far less useful since ranged weapons suck, and melee attacks usually have poor range and will make your character move if the mob moves making your dps worsem most of the time if you're tanking multiple mobs swamping you you're basically dead anyway but theres a use case for this and its weremoose's mastery slam attack. weremoose can make use of the aoe slam attack and control an area around him if he reaches his 2nd hit in a combo (a combo is ended whenever the attack input is stopped, so you can not animation cancel with lag comp on in this case since you move before attacking again, but you also can not equip different stuff since you got no inventory lol), so in beequeen fight/dragonfly fight he can make use of target swapping and control enemies (could also target nm creatures to get some easy nm fuel/target for target swapping, since they get close to him to attack and never move away if moose doesnt move). it makes it so weremoose combos very well if there is another person around to heal him/drag mobs aggro'd onto them into weremooses slam)

You should pin this comment.

He does a lot of twitch so I recommend watching him

It is spelt the man the myth the legend has returned

😂😂 relatable!

Yes tulecite club is the best weapon to do It cuz It means shadow tentacles quicker

Its ameslarii video by the way

I read everything. Glad we could help!

I stole Joeshmo’s keybinds.

@@JazzysGames the man, the myth, the legend :')

@@JazzysGames ah sad. i don't get a secret reference Kappa

I feel like the loss of accessory-changing mobility without keybinds on console makes this not worth it, but it depends on the boss

@austygo3563 Yeah man 4 me it's just not worth it Plus i am actually really good at this game it's my childhood I can dodge when i need to

I believe it was a Wigfrid main who showed me a trick with spam clicking multiple targets to animation cancel as Wig. Think you need lag comp turned on for that to work. Will get back to you on this.

it really depends on how long the different parts of an attack animation last. if the hit registers close to the beginning of the animation, such as with beefalo, it becomes much more beneficial the closer to the hit register that you cancel. regular attacks and whips don't benefit as much as beef imo, but it's certainly a skill worth considering.

yes but harder

Doubtful. It’s been in the game since the beginning and locking characters into animations would be disastrous to players with latency.

@@JazzysGames I mean they did make some changes that made animation cancelling (Specifically with the "move to cancel" method) a lot worse maybe a year ago, around the WX refresh. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but it's pretty easy to break. I also think it could be removed without locking by making it so you can't swap in anims or whatever. If Klei wanted to, they could totally find a way to get rid of it.

You really get more DPS by skipping the slam?

@@JazzysGames the same thing with normal attack animation, the recovery from the slam animation can be canceled into another attack by moving in a directionto stop after the slam dmg has been done

@@JazzysGames I think I said it in a confusing way. What I meant is that you skip the animation of a slam, not the slam itself

Ah thank you, that makes more sense to me!

There is also a second form of moose animation canceling where you cancel the animation of every punch, but that’s not really the most useful now that the slam is a thing.

Deerclops has a weird tendency to stand right on top of players, and that sanity aura is strongest at its center. If you can get Clops to stand still and kite around then you can avoid losing too much sanity.

Thought so, I haven't played too often recently but I remember being just in a little closer than attacks reach and was losing sanity instantly which is why I was confused. Especially when I have extra reach with the alarming clock, I don't think I should lose sanity as quickly as I do. Update on that, I went to make a new world and test it out just now, it was deerclops just standing on top of me and I guess I never really noticed that somehow. Thanks a lot for the help!

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I guess I just figured it out: When you have lag compensation on the animation while swaping items does not occur. When you turn it off you can do the cancel animation like in the video. Do you guys always play dst WITHOUT the lag compensation?!?! O_O I've always played with the Lag compensation on!!!!

Yeah I had mentioned that in a comment that has since gotten unpinned. Yes, I always have lag comp turned off. It’s just way too frustrating when you’re trying to learn how to properly kite mobs. I hardly notice the slight input delay after a while.

with lag comp on, swapping equips will not work from my testings unless they changed that recently

and with lag com on, u cancel with wasd

its just a bit harder

You should learn how to play with lag comp off imo, but probably yes

@@GobbyMade21 once you understand lag comp on is just lying to your face, you can just turn it on in long bosses and turn it off once its over (could time dodges, depending on how laggy and/or how well you time your dodges). thats how i always do it, pretty easy and universal way to do much more dmg

yes but not with armor for weapon swap. U do it with move keys

Which is honestly why I don’t do this a whole lot when I’m off my beefalo. I just don’t do it reliably enough to justify attempting. I’m content with beefalo animation cancelling for now.

Nah it’s been known about for years, I’ve just never seen a guide on how exactly to do it so I figured I’d make one.

Makes sense. I don't know why I didn't think of it either. I use the same/similar mechanic, when digging, because the animation takes forever. So, thanks for bringing this to my attention! @@JazzysGames