sortof

Feet? Hot

@@Holypikemanz I could see lamia though.

I want someone to Photoshop this lol

@@AceGamingOriginal if you're brave enough, try unsafe Google image searching it. :3

off of creep* "Out of creep" isn't natural for English.

"What units are the SC2 movements in" Tiny grid squares. It's based off the old SC1 movement programming, where they moved across a grid overlaid across the map.

I haven't seen uThermal then.

​@@Lara-tk2wg I have.

knew they'd be strong but even stronger than I thought. hydra timings are wild now. the damage point change making them more stutter step, that's a bit change too.

Hydra-Lurker timings are almost impossible to stop as toss.

Hydra timing was a thing before. They just made it become available again. Most Zerg players are just too busy baby rage about the nerfs instead of trying new things and probably will just copy whatever the hell the Zerg pros come up with in the next few months. Only then we will see the result of the patch. The thing is, when a patch drop, something changes, something will not work anymore and some will work again, and people need time to figure that out and learn how to play again.

I could actually believe this if not for the matches where they both played against each other.

queens op 😂

Good point. Idk

Heromarine is still playing, I watch his stream sometimes, he's like rank 6 GM on EU as of a few days ago. Showtime vs serral I just watched last month, but it wasn't a winter cast, maybe he tried to avoid ones that other people already did?

Agreed should be longer

he did the same thing vs oliveria in game 1 of a best of 3 winter just casted lol

bc gas is such a pain ngl

yea, that's blink.

Protoss in general needs a buff. Stalkers are actually one of the better protoss units, as are chargelots. And having a units thats good in the early, mid and late game isn't good for the game. Even marines fall off lategame. Protoss T2 & 3 units need buffs. They mostly need build time buffs (without making rushs too good) and cost decreases, including supply.

@@berndarndt9924 Stalkers are, pound for pound, one of the worst stand up units. What are you trying to say?

@@broastedgarlic7354 In good hands, they are one of the best units and you lose few of them. But it does feel weak as time goes by. I think that for it to become stronger it is simply

@@broastedgarlic7354 Yet they beat a lot of other units in game. Strange.

Some of us have honor

The first 4 games were cheese constant cheese and repels of cheese. Hard to judge the balance in a cheese game. The last game though clearly was balanced. The snipe on the 4th base(53:50) for protoss spelled the end really getting the two oracles and a base for free was too much damage. IT kept the economy in zerg favor for 3-4 minutes and forced him to cut colossus to produce observers. Even losing 10 stalkers for free would have been better still having detection and a base is better then 10 stalkers in the mid game even if the 10 stalkers cost more. Economy is everything in P Vs Z, because of chrono boost protoss can get 4 saturated bases so quick your head will spin and if the stalkers had been there a snipe wouldn't have occurred and the 4th base would have been saturated in 2 minutes with 4 bases with chrono on minerals and 2,30 on gass. If you watch the income you will see even with 4 base to 3 base in zergs favor there only up like 100 minerals a minute vs protoss after the 4th base snipe. Then every time they would skirmish he would target the observer. Lurkers are the equivalent of a colossus for zerg. Both require two tech buildings. Both require upgrades to work, in fact lurkers require two upgrades and to be burrowed in order to work. You could say lurkers are equal to colossus even, because colossus can climb cliffs and lurkers need detection.

​@@sethboyd2217 Totally agree with you, except for the fact that you can't build 15 Colosi.

​@@IncredibleGoliath but that is the entire point of stalkers... they suck... but are very microable... That's why the AI's go ham with em... and why if they get caught, toss is just boned... And endgame toss armies compared to endgame zerg armies are much easier to A-move and win... So are u saying that should be changed as well? Or late game zerg should be buffed? Because everyone complains about that as well lol even the way it is now

colossi blow monkey nuts compared to lurkers. maybe if they put the damage back to 15x2 instead of 10x2 (15x2 vs light), and put the +range back, we could talk. they still would be worse than a lurker because they can't turn invisible

​@@jaybee8862endgame Protoss armies require a lot of micro actually. Unless you just mean skytoss in which case I agree (except for tempests lol)

One day