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A diverter valve would not work in this case because the pump for the telescopic cylinder is only a single acting pump. That means it only generates pressure out of one port. A jack needs a double acting pump in order to create power up and down, hence they are using a double acting pump for the jack. The four function pump they are referring to has the capability to accommodate both a single acting and double acting cylinder on the same valve body, which eliminates the need for two pumps.

@@jamespolkinghorne4452 Not necessarily, if the cylinder/jack had springs built in, they could retract the cylinder and the single acting pump would work.

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I have had a GMC 7000 Can not remember the year. It had a scissor lift and a 20' box with 4' sides maybe 5' usually used for hauling construction trash I could load it with almost a full box of dirt and roof tile mixed, maybe not legal to go down the road weight wise.... don't tell, and that lift would never let me down, it had dual cylinders on the lift had to have one repacked, and the bed broke the rear hinge on the drivers side one time dumping a huge load of dirt.... but still dumped and dropped, had to have that repaired that day.... Miss that rig... was a great truck for the time.

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Every dump trailer I have seen tip over has been an open frame telescopic style. This is because there is no stability in a telescopic ram, it can only push and it's subject to buckling. The scissor mechanism itself, even without the ram, is exponentially more stable just due to the width and the role in side load resistance it provides. Yeah, there are more moving pieces and you need a larger diameter due to lower mechanical advantage as compared to a straight pushing telescopic, but the former just seems superior.

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I would have to disagree. I’ve had 2 16k scissor lift and now a 16k telescopic. They don’t get weaker as they extend. They are strongest at full extension. Like a solid steel rod. Look at dump trucks. They dont use scissor lift. Yes you have to be more careful about not being on a significant angle with them. They aren’t as stable as the scissor. And they are slower. Difference is were it matters… they dump way more. It’s easy to overload a scissor lift. Ask me how I know. Telescopic not the case. I have yet to see my 2 year old max d 16k get stuck dumping anything

I dump on hills , inclined all different directions, unstable ground, fly ash, to top soil,to stone, firewood. 14 ft telescopic. I have had a scissor lift in the past same 14ft. The telescopic will do it all with tons of more dumping power if needed. When on a hill or not level ground your dump bed is stable by the mounting not the lifting... there's 100 years of them being used in 53 foot er etc to prove that. The telescopic does sway a little at times at high lift but nothing to worry about if your paying attention anyway. Iam sure you can overload it and break it , tip it etc same as the others. Point is telescopic is stronger by far. More efficient, effective. Think of a wheelbarrow. Put the handle in the center. Load it up and try lifting it from All those different points with your arms. You will see you can not beat the telescopic. They all will beak if you overload enough , will all tip over. It's about using them in the operation range. Then the telescopic is by far the winner. If you care about 30 seconds of up and down time, then you won't buy a dump trailer to start with. They are not faster than a dump truck period or stronger. Also have worked in the coal yard with tractor trailers loaded full of fly ash. 80 to 140 tons a load . We dumped on big pile of fly ash. Very unstable. Rarely did a truck tip. Only when they were not being smart. Witch every trailer will tip if being dumb.

I think the biggest difference is dump angle for sticky loads and a properly designed telescopic will win

There is more wear and issues with a scissor, telescope cyl is better, also easier to replace when necessary.

A telescopic is unstable at heights…? But a scissor isn’t..?? That’s gonna be a tough claim to back up. If you’re lifting a ladder that’s laying flat on the ground, when you start standing it up are you gonna hold it down by your waist? Or as high over your head as you can reach? See the similarity? The telescopic is pushing on the very end of the “ladder”. The best possible scenario. The scissor is pushing on the middle while the top is free floating. The side-to-side stability comes from the hinges, the shape of the cylinder is almost irrelevant.

The prototype is currently in testing. This will be the DSX model coming later this year!

I think the only reason they didn't load to rated capacity is because they wanted to have roughly the same amount of gravel weight in each trailer to make it a more even comparison. But good point none the less.

We have dual acting pumps on order for the DTX, soon we'll be able to operate the jacks and telescopic cylinder off of one pump!

@@Maxxdtrailersofficialvery nice!

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We loaded both trailers as close to capacity as possible without overloading as we don't have scales nearby. Once scales are set up in our shop we'll be able to load the trailers some more.

I have a 2019 PJ 14’ 4 foot sides with a scissor and it dumps as much weight as the truck (2019 L5P 3500) can handle no issues. Occasionally with dirt will need to shovel the front for 10 minutes or so by hand but only when extremely over loaded

10:49 in the video.

All of our trailers are 100% built in Texas! Both trailers should weigh in at 4,500lbs to 5,000lbs depending on how you build it out!

Correct, the scissor hoist won't lift as much as a telescopic due to the leverage. Dump trailers aren't a "if it fits, it ships" product - they have limits. Their frames and axles can only handle so much weight, but a scissor hoist will handle its capacity just fine. Dump trailers are meant for hauling all sorts of stuff - dirt, trash, logs, you name it. But loading it up to the top with sand would be pushing it way past its weight limit, probably 2-3 times over.

@@Maxxdtrailersofficial so why is it nobody even offers a smaller size dump trailer with heavy axles and frame for those of us that purely intend to haul nothing but fill. It would actually save some money but not be cheaper and have a smaller trailer for my intended purpose. I WANT THE IF IT FITS IT SHIPS industrial rental center takes a licking and keeps ticking 10 foot 9900lb rated with dually tandem 10k axles with the longer equalizer as many stadard off the shef parts as possible and 17.5 wheels with an actual dump box not the it's loaded with features you will never use to help it sell model maybe in a side dump setup as it would only be used for fill in confined residential areas a baby demco side dump

We don't currently have scales close enough to the plant to load both trailers. We would rather not take these trailers down the road overloaded.

@@Maxxdtrailersofficial SIr, being that you're a manufacture of these trailers, you would certainly be able to find a rock pit or other place with scales that would load you and let you dump the product back out at that location to TEST your trailers!! Should not be too hard and the only cost should be ... repainting, Also I had a 40' aluminum end dump we put a 10k liner in it to lengthen the life of the bed.... If the concern is the inside, from demo jobs of concrete, block or bricks... maybe a liner would assist those who are worried. I am in Arizona so Rust and water was usually not an issue for rusting or such things maybe less of an issue with aluminum than steel but something to consider depending on the state and situations the trailers are being used for or in. Hauling firewood would be perfect!!

10 gauge steel standard, 7 gauge is optional!

Since the comments are off, I'll comment here, why not turn the scissors system around so it lifts the front of the trailer instead of in the middleish.

@@Maxxdtrailersofficial 10 gauge is pretty thin for a floor on a dump bed, that's only 1/8th inch. Is it AR450, AR500, or just regular steel? All my big dump trailers for semi's, and dump trucks are standard 1/4 inch AR450 or Hardox which is equivalent to an AR450-AR500.

@@clydeacor1911with 12” centers you’d probably break the axle before the floor

They weighed trucks with trailers

Yes, the gross weight includes the trucks. The trailers weigh anywhere from 4,500 to 5,000lbs.

The telescopic would have more lifting power due to the dumping leverage. The telescopic cylinder is rated for 12 tons!

So what ? If you spend an extra grand or two when you buy a trailer, you won't have to replace the cheap POS in 5 years that you "saved" money on.

The 6x20 hoist make a huge difference!

Why would that matter which way it's mounted? You can see in the video the biggest sections are extending first. Although mounting the cylinder on the bottom would have saved a lot of hose.

G'day, My immediate thought. Cheers, Malcolm.

Not if you actually use it for work !

The four function pumps are currently on order for the DTX. They will be available soon!

Great!Look forward your video!@@Maxxdtrailersofficial

The DTX is also a gravity down, it was slightly slower than the DJX power down!

The DTX base MSRP starts at $16,800, a bit more than the DJX at $13,000. Keep in mind the DTX (Telescopic) throws in some features as standard that you'd have to tack on as extras with the DJX. When making an apples to apples comparison, the DTX comes in at about $1,000 higher than the DJX. For accurate pricing you would need to visit a dealer as we don't sell directly to the public.