Mbeki: quality of ANC member declining

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Former president Thabo Mbeki says the quality of a member of the ANC
has been on a decline for a long time.
Mbeki says the late Nelson Mandela raised some of these concerns
during the 1997 elective conference in Mafikeng, North West.
He says there are many people both in the ANC and government calling
themselves ANC members, but act indirectly to the party's values.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.

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@cecilmakgale4522
@cecilmakgale4522 28 күн бұрын
Let ANC go and settle it's internal matters outside of government! We really need change in SA!
@PlannendaarTV-wt4qe
@PlannendaarTV-wt4qe 27 күн бұрын
@cecil This country was radically raided from 1652. THAT'S NEARLY #FOURHUNDREDCOLONIALYEARS. Let that sink in for a bit. The last ruler of the settler colonialist was the brutal apartheid system from 1948 until 1994. So this 30 years of DEMOCRATIC RULE, is seen as a beach-head moment. The glorious #ANC is leading the second phase of the national democratic revolution. The next 30 years are focused on youth economic empowerment. Therefore, the YEE Act is a much more rigorous Act than the BEE, as the YEE Act has punitive measures for those who do not adhere to empowerment regulations. Danko #PresidentZizi, #BEEAct53of2Double03, forms the foundations of the proposed YEE Act, which #uPresidentBuffalo must sign into law, after commencing his #7thAdministration_iYavuma.
@cecilmakgale4522
@cecilmakgale4522 27 күн бұрын
@@PlannendaarTV-wt4qe Comrade i agree with your analysis of our country, however our party is taking a long road to resolving our issues! Kgante ba tshaba bo mang?
@TG-xu2cy
@TG-xu2cy 28 күн бұрын
I think Anc needs to give other people chance.
@bhekimavundla345
@bhekimavundla345 28 күн бұрын
I green with you
@kaizersuze9000
@kaizersuze9000 28 күн бұрын
Me green 2​@@bhekimavundla345
@DumaM-ir7rk
@DumaM-ir7rk 27 күн бұрын
But sparking in riddle by black leaders in South Africa
@kevinrtres
@kevinrtres 27 күн бұрын
No, the PEOPLE need to give themselves a chance of freedom from Amockery by voting OUT the ANC - do not vote for them ( or the EFF ) - plain and simple. We'll see what the loadshedding schedule looks like on Thursday.
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419 27 күн бұрын
They won't
@AubreyLutiq-wr6nv
@AubreyLutiq-wr6nv 28 күн бұрын
There's no quality left in the anc, only the wolves, hyenas, looters and thieves are there.
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 28 күн бұрын
Outgrown the flip flop camp ,how embarrassing, being let down by individuals who have outgrown the party,a shame,arrogance has no limits
@ThembaTsela
@ThembaTsela 28 күн бұрын
@ThembaTsela
@ThembaTsela 28 күн бұрын
Has the Intergrity commission called Ramaphosa on Phala Phala? When will that happen?
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
The integrity commission has determined that the folio containing the phala phala report had ample integrity. It would not fall apart upon inspectio 😋
@LL2019
@LL2019 28 күн бұрын
The Phala Phala matter will be dealt with after he has left office. Currently, he is of benefit to the leadership.
@lesegomakhubela409
@lesegomakhubela409 27 күн бұрын
The greatest son of Africa comrade Thabo Mbeki and organic intellectual 🖤💚💛
@mcelenimaphem5510
@mcelenimaphem5510 28 күн бұрын
Its always refreshing to listen to President Mbeki, your mind is always invited to think but if you are lazy you will never understand, howelers are even worse to get what this man says until they realize the mean in 2040.
@msizinhlanhlandlovu4127
@msizinhlanhlandlovu4127 28 күн бұрын
ITS REALLY NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, WHEN YOU REALLY KNOW SOMETHINGS ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY YOU FIND THAT BABU MBHEKI IS NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS BUT HAS HIS OWN SELFISH AGENDA
@user-wh9zg8np1s
@user-wh9zg8np1s 28 күн бұрын
Speedy recovery comrade president
@lm_b5080
@lm_b5080 28 күн бұрын
he says in 1997 Mandela already says be careful of ANC members looking to self-enrich through government money while people suffer...YET through his BEE policies he creates the tenderpreneur class! this man can't see he was part of the problem that brought us here!!
@lusandamsindo8059
@lusandamsindo8059 28 күн бұрын
He’s talking about the infiltration of his party by the agents which used cronyism to loot and undermine the state ability to deliver services and improve the quality of life for the citizens. He says, “this was done to stop Moscow.”
@zukoalam927
@zukoalam927 27 күн бұрын
Mxim and yet his wife is the main BEE beneficiary
@DumaM-ir7rk
@DumaM-ir7rk 27 күн бұрын
@ zukoalam927 Mbeki was the president when Smuts Ngonyama say “ I didn’t join the struggle to be poor” during this period we all know comrade were stealing from ANC. Comrades like Jacky Selebi the most corrupt cop who was protected for the longest time
@InfoHubZA
@InfoHubZA 28 күн бұрын
Mbeki made some bad decisions during his tenure. As flawed as he is, he is by far the best president SA has ever had. Zuma is the worst, accidental president.
@siphosethumyeza8167
@siphosethumyeza8167 28 күн бұрын
Ramaphosa worse
@senzomemela1311
@senzomemela1311 28 күн бұрын
With all due respect, what did Mr Mbeki, do for this country... except producing economic plans that were just slogans, ASGISA, ... missed an opportunity to overhaul this institutions....to Nationalise banks and mines as per ANCs policy...did not build power stations....
@ferdieortman6614
@ferdieortman6614 28 күн бұрын
​@@senzomemela1311development is a ongoing process the development that has been implemented during his tenure must be completed by his predecessors
@biko8229
@biko8229 28 күн бұрын
What did Mbeki do with the 2/3 majority that the people of SA gave him? What dividends did he reward these voters with? Talk about a man on top, doing absolutely nothing.
@ferdieortman6614
@ferdieortman6614 28 күн бұрын
@@biko8229 housing en best universal free education
@tebogotshabalala9041
@tebogotshabalala9041 28 күн бұрын
I am trying to look if Thabo Mbeki is still a man of high calibre , sadly I cannot see the high calibreness he once possessed his dignified statesman reputation is gone now
@SAMUKELOZ
@SAMUKELOZ 28 күн бұрын
If you think this is not campaigning for the ANC and demonising JZ, then I have a Mandela bridge to sell you.....
@ndamanekandamanei1965
@ndamanekandamanei1965 28 күн бұрын
He may be a flamboyant scumbag, u still don't have a right to pick on zupta like that. Allow the man to plan for his next court appearance.
@masterjedi487
@masterjedi487 27 күн бұрын
but is he lying about anything?
@zukoalam927
@zukoalam927 27 күн бұрын
​@masterjedi487 yes he is, what did he do for black majority with his 2/3 majority?
@PlannendaarTV-wt4qe
@PlannendaarTV-wt4qe 27 күн бұрын
@SAMUKELOZ Good day. Have you read the expert constitutionalist-written #NugentSARSReport? At least once ke.
@PlannendaarTV-wt4qe
@PlannendaarTV-wt4qe 27 күн бұрын
​@@masterjedi487#PresidentZizi cannot lie, his #ANCIntegrity simply wouldn't allow him. Mr. samukeloz must please read the #NugentSARSReport. #uPresidentZizi lays it out, so that even a 5 year-old can internalise and innerstand it.
@Princess7619
@Princess7619 28 күн бұрын
I love President Mbeki. May God bless his soul! ❤ When are we giving him his flowers? We need to honor his contributions to our society. A documentary would do please Newzroom!
@gladyssannahmthombeni6501
@gladyssannahmthombeni6501 28 күн бұрын
Very professional u could see that his an academic why should our country be ruled by people who never went to school when we are promoting education?
@phumlamazibuko3003
@phumlamazibuko3003 28 күн бұрын
With his advice on garlic and beetroot, Nkosi Johnson with many others lost their lives.x
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
@user-ce4dm8wy2u 28 күн бұрын
​@@phumlamazibuko3003😂😂😂
@nomifoli3345
@nomifoli3345 28 күн бұрын
I will never forget when the stories about how he pushed Mandela out. Undermining his views telling him he's old he must go home. We remember how he rudely pushed Winnie Mandela when she tried to hug him. How he sabotaged President Zuma with the rape case to prevent him from becoming a president. We will also remember how he refused to sign the HIV treatment leading to a large number of people dying. All am saying kicking or screaming he will never be the kind of a President Zuma is, who cares for everyone in this country despite their class because he understands the plight of the people like us in the grass root level. Who do not fit Mbeki's classist system.
@masterjedi487
@masterjedi487 27 күн бұрын
don't misinterpret our former leader ,he didn't ever state it was a cure ,he was saying that a change of diet will contribute to a healthier quality of life while living with HIV
@mthobisisikhakhane
@mthobisisikhakhane 28 күн бұрын
This old man said he will not campaign for the ANC criminals, jikijiki he is campaigning for the ANC and today he said he won't campaign for the ANC, the question I have, wenzabani isilima? Nxx
@zamuxolongubane5766
@zamuxolongubane5766 28 күн бұрын
So substituted the interview of Jacob Zuma to the person who failed to give his people arvs ?
@lalalaphabnb6719
@lalalaphabnb6719 28 күн бұрын
Mmfxxxx uphambene
@phumlamazibuko3003
@phumlamazibuko3003 28 күн бұрын
Unforgivable decision
@phumlamazibuko3003
@phumlamazibuko3003 28 күн бұрын
Nkosi Johnson with others lost lives coz of Mbeki advice on garlic n beetroot refusing to seek treatment
@Nikolizky
@Nikolizky 28 күн бұрын
So the country must have a dialogue and discuss ways to solve ANC’s failures while the ANC is in government, and the ANC should be part of this dialogue or even lead or manage this dialogue? And the ANC ha/had power and did nothing about people within its ranks who were sabotaging its programs and wanted it to fail?
@mbusomabena9751
@mbusomabena9751 28 күн бұрын
It's crazy, he's victimizing the ANC as if it couldn't do anything about "said" external forces🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@biko8229
@biko8229 28 күн бұрын
This cadre's position on land reform is laughable, his position on HIV treatment is still unforgivable.
@nobukhosizungu2078
@nobukhosizungu2078 28 күн бұрын
That's true we lost too many ppl for something that could be prolonged since that time he lost my respect that was a very cruel same as land issues That's an forgible the man only cared for his position
@nhlanhlamanatha8799
@nhlanhlamanatha8799 28 күн бұрын
People must also learn to condomise condoms were free in his time the are still free to dis day ,it's also unforgivable not to use condom to someone u knw tht is positive and claim to take shower after as a deputy president of country then imprgnant yo friend daughter who was positive cos husband of yo friend daughter died of HIV
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
@user-ce4dm8wy2u 28 күн бұрын
On topof that he gave you ARVS ​@@nhlanhlamanatha8799
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
I respect his stance on AIDS, he could have saved us a lot on these useless meds we bought in 2020 that no one used.
@WorkingPrincipleZ
@WorkingPrincipleZ 28 күн бұрын
Mbeki the great, commander in chief of the revolutionary forces,hand picked successor of both tambo and mandela. Nation builder, poet,progessive a revolutionary of the highest order. History shall ardon this man with honors the truth cannot be wished away.
@leslenesantana7575
@leslenesantana7575 28 күн бұрын
ANC has failed!
@sphesihlemashiane4519
@sphesihlemashiane4519 28 күн бұрын
That's an understatement.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
Failed the supermajority, they did not fail those who have made more money during democracy than the entire period of apartheid.
@joanmahlatjie3070
@joanmahlatjie3070 27 күн бұрын
Zuma failing ANC
@DumaM-ir7rk
@DumaM-ir7rk 27 күн бұрын
But the riddles in this old men is not helping at all. He knows those report and he must say the names for the public to hear . They know who is behind this country and damaging the country
@n02hbby16
@n02hbby16 27 күн бұрын
I use to think they did however when I looked a bit closer they didn't 🤔 fail intirely 🤷
@mthokozisimajola6266
@mthokozisimajola6266 28 күн бұрын
We lost a lot of lives in this country because of Thabo Mbeki's HIV denialism, I think that's what you should be discussing there, trying to rewrite history and sanitizing himself will not help. He is deliberately referencing disreputable literature because he wants to drive a wrong narrative that other leaders failed except him.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
Imagine what his "denialism" would have done for the coof, we would never have bought vaxxies that expired because people refused them.
@BheleKhuboni
@BheleKhuboni 27 күн бұрын
Are you really that naive or you are deliberately spreading political propaganda? Words have definitions which thing predates both you and I. Please give me one reference where former president Mbeki denied existence of HIV? Just one.
@sbonisothapelo5435
@sbonisothapelo5435 23 күн бұрын
You don't your research properly..
@masauso100
@masauso100 28 күн бұрын
We need to draw as much wisdom as we can from this great son of Africa. He is a fountain of knowledge.
@Mudziwamunyai
@Mudziwamunyai 28 күн бұрын
My former president mbeki ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
@sanelisiwedlamini7142
@sanelisiwedlamini7142 28 күн бұрын
Who killed many many ppl by refusing to believe that HIV causes AIDS yes your former President murder 😊 nonsense old man
@online3010
@online3010 28 күн бұрын
He might have been a silly president with not believing HIV and Aids are connected. And eating Garlic and sweet potatoes are a cure for HIV. But do you remember that was the only things that we didn't like about a president. He was the best economic president in my lifetime. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. He was the best econmic leader since the 80's
@DumaM-ir7rk
@DumaM-ir7rk 27 күн бұрын
@ online3010 did you forget how he protected Jacky Selebi?
@online3010
@online3010 27 күн бұрын
@@DumaM-ir7rk I did forget that. 👌 Thanks for reminder
@DumaM-ir7rk
@DumaM-ir7rk 27 күн бұрын
@ online3010 arms deal report point Mbeki and his brother . Check and you will see .
@danielbrink9475
@danielbrink9475 23 күн бұрын
Mr. MBEKI we miss you you did such a good job when you were in office.
@alkebulanafricanconversati1728
@alkebulanafricanconversati1728 28 күн бұрын
Dankie my president, many will disrespect you fir your standing point but will not engage the material you spoke abour
@RichMasemola
@RichMasemola 28 күн бұрын
JZ's interview was stopped today to make space for this! This is what is called fairness by eNCA. WE SEE ALL THIS AND MILLIONS WILL VOTE MK
@gladyssannahmthombeni6501
@gladyssannahmthombeni6501 28 күн бұрын
He is old and not fit for purpose
@phumlamazibuko3003
@phumlamazibuko3003 28 күн бұрын
Newsroom offered the interview to Nxamalala with Ziyanda Ngcobo in Nkandla.
@warrenmusah1392
@warrenmusah1392 28 күн бұрын
Ppl thoughts we hallucinating when we said these propaganda media are captured wtf is this
@manyananihlwatika726
@manyananihlwatika726 27 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 Zuma
@RichMasemola
@RichMasemola 27 күн бұрын
@@phumlamazibuko3003 my apologies I meant eNCA
@elizabethandrsu369
@elizabethandrsu369 28 күн бұрын
President Mbeki please stay at home and relax stop ukuhliswa use nyuswa ngathi uthengisa I raffle.Leave them to loot further. Now you have a lung problem from moving up and down, like you are going to earn something. Relax those who failed must solve their problems. There is nothing you can change now. It is late now. Even late President Mandela wouldn't Iike for sure this ANC behaviour. Stay at home and watch them when they are campaigning as you said you won't mix with these crooks.
@nalinimoodley8021
@nalinimoodley8021 27 күн бұрын
My Father Thabo Mbeki you are a man of great integrity
@ThembaTsela
@ThembaTsela 28 күн бұрын
Remember how bo Macozoma stole from Transnet. You wife from exile grant eaner to a multi-millionaire, how did she aquire those shares?
@DumaM-ir7rk
@DumaM-ir7rk 27 күн бұрын
The arms deal shows Mbeki and his brother involvement I saw a report showing them
@adamcarnegie5660
@adamcarnegie5660 27 күн бұрын
It is rather frustrating to hear how longwinded this interview is. Anybody listening to this really cannot understand the circles and the smoke. SA needs clarity at the top of the Indaba Tree. We need leadership that speaks truthfully and clearly and directly - without mirrors and smoke and "stuff" (left in reports hidden behind the pillars). It is no wonder the ANC has lost sight of the direct goal posts of leadership. The leaders are indirect. (I admire President Mbeki - but sadly this is just too much waffle too late.) SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!
@SIBUSISOXULU-vk9po
@SIBUSISOXULU-vk9po 28 күн бұрын
Zuma is making this old man sick
@user-bs1gg2pq8s
@user-bs1gg2pq8s 28 күн бұрын
😅😅😅😅 he chokes himself once he start mentioning Zuma.
@user-oi7vx1in5x
@user-oi7vx1in5x 28 күн бұрын
MK was nothing before Zuma, and will be nothing after Zuma. MK is simply a platform to attempt to harm the ANC at the polls.
@icno123
@icno123 28 күн бұрын
Mbeki 2 terms did nothing zuma 2 terms did nothing all incompetent
@ntuthukomthimkhulu8559
@ntuthukomthimkhulu8559 28 күн бұрын
Lol
@icno123
@icno123 28 күн бұрын
@@ntuthukomthimkhulu8559 Wanna cry?
@jbmzala
@jbmzala 28 күн бұрын
Very biased SABC , how come Thabo is given airtime when they banned the interview with Zuma. Would be interesting to see how the MK party will view this
@dumisanintshingila8062
@dumisanintshingila8062 28 күн бұрын
very biased trying to lure us with using old ANC memebers , it wont change our minds... they must go its enough.
@BenjaminMalatji247
@BenjaminMalatji247 28 күн бұрын
Fair point, but this is NOT SABC, it's Newzroom Africa 💀👀🙆🏾‍♂️
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 28 күн бұрын
@@BenjaminMalatji247 just remind him
@smanqele
@smanqele 26 күн бұрын
Zuma is an active leader of a party campaigning for elections. Mbeki is a former leader and not campaigning or speaking on behalf of his party. Major difference
@ThembaTsela
@ThembaTsela 28 күн бұрын
I agree on a multi-party CODESA 2.
@BheleKhuboni
@BheleKhuboni 27 күн бұрын
Mbeki is not responsible for anyone acquiring a sexually transmitted disease. He never once denied that HIV nor Aids existed, so he can't be a denier of either. He simply stated what should have been obvious to all thinking persons that: "AIDS was a syndrome made up of atleast 27 previously existent diseases which were each caused by different viruses. If that is true, how then can this new virus( since HIV was new at the time), cause such a syndrome?". This is really not difficult to comprehend at all. What should have been difficult to comprehend is the propaganda that he was an aids denier, since there are so many videos of him talking about how deadly aids was. Now, i can explain this to anyone whose IQ is not a room temperature level, but i can't understand it for you. No president is responsible to go purchase any medicine at taxpayers money without asking the relevant questions, otherwise that would be disaster similar to what Ramadollar did with covid vaxines.
@Courts220
@Courts220 27 күн бұрын
Thanks Xoli, for bringing in my one and only President Mbeki. Thanks for asking some of the questions I 've been asking myself. when he mentioned that even when ANC took over government, there were people within the organisation who were working with those who didn't want change to take place. Therefore, this behavior has always been there in ANC and today it's even worse bcos the number of such people increased and we can all see that the country is going back to those people who didn't want democracy and they are helped by many of those in government. I wonder if these government Officials are aware of what they are doing to the future of their children, or maybe they just don't care. We need strong leadership that is not going to tolerate such wrong behavior.
@MrLechesa
@MrLechesa 28 күн бұрын
Why must we listen to this historic former President and not the most recent one??
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 28 күн бұрын
Zuma is historic too
@zenzocliffordhlazo6122
@zenzocliffordhlazo6122 28 күн бұрын
Worse it is said that he is a scholar but he cites mostly old references to recent events. This people must take a back seat and fix their messed-up party of Criminals. This interview is a clear campaign they want people to sympathize with the ANC that it was infiltrated and sabotaged.
@ThembaTsela
@ThembaTsela 28 күн бұрын
I respect this journalist, thought he will facilitate campaign. Mbheki is a dishonestan. Zuma brought about peace in KZN, and supported you to win elections. He trusted you. The Arms deal was chaired by you, he was in Provinces
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 28 күн бұрын
Mbeki and Mandela deployed Zuma. Using state resources.
@ThembaTsela
@ThembaTsela 28 күн бұрын
@@user-ww5qw8jd3b SA deployed Mandela & Mbheki using State resources.
@georgemukamba
@georgemukamba 27 күн бұрын
I never thought - I would witness a day when this Elder Statesman I highly respected for his PRINCIPLES would - one day start PARTISAN PANDERING inorder to sound POLITICALLY CORRECT. I'm disappointed. He's changed. I hope - this doesn't temper with his unmatched government leadership legacy.
@sibongileviolet887
@sibongileviolet887 28 күн бұрын
Ever since he said there was no HIV, ngamzonda that day
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
@user-ce4dm8wy2u 28 күн бұрын
Me too
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
You probably hate those who say there was no coof as well... It is bliss...
@BheleKhuboni
@BheleKhuboni 27 күн бұрын
But Thabo never said there was no HIV nor did he deny aids as the media portrayed him. All you need to do is your own research and question the lies you were told by the media and get out of your vacuum of hating people for something they never said. All Thabo said was " HIV is one virus, Aids is a syndrome made up of atleast 27 previously known diseases caused by different viruses. How then is it possible that this new virus, HIV, causes this syndrome, if you consider what constitutes the syndrome". Nowhere in that statement is a denial of either aids nor HIV's existence.
@notre2024
@notre2024 27 күн бұрын
😂😂
@wrightnash
@wrightnash 27 күн бұрын
He never said there was no HIV. He disputed that HIV caused AIDS and proposed natural remedies as treatment instead of ARVs
@King_thaa
@King_thaa 28 күн бұрын
Now it's clear that every anc member is a big liar....these questions are simple and the guy tell us about parliamentary rules and what what 2008 eskom saga Asi funi lento...all we are asking is...why campaigning now😂because the criminal is still in the office Ufana nabo tata nothing more
@msizinhlanhlandlovu4127
@msizinhlanhlandlovu4127 28 күн бұрын
WOW WELL PUT
@siphiwembiyela3886
@siphiwembiyela3886 27 күн бұрын
Mbeki is trying so hard to rewrite history in order to absolve himself from the anc failures yet the majority of us still remember his stubborn stance on Hiv which led to thousands of people dying. We still remember how he protected Jackie selebi and initiated the demise of the scorpion he presided over the economy that grew around 3.5% but the benefits never trickled down on the majority. The rise of the mafioso happened during his tenure and we still remember him as an advocate for open borders which led to immigration disaster that we have today. On many occasions he wrote in different news outlet to defend anc cadre deployment policy and today the country is still reeling from the effects of that policy. Mbeki through his disastrous policies of gear and asgisa launched a widespread privatization of state entities for the benefit of the elites. Mbeki chose an unheard policy of "quiet diplomacy" in the name of liberation brotherhood hence he's partly responsible for the Zimbabwean situation that still persist to this day.
@bongani2281
@bongani2281 28 күн бұрын
Inganekwane le, this man is weak shem...Africans must stop thinking fluent English makes sense
@gambu4810
@gambu4810 28 күн бұрын
You probably support MK and its convicted leaders.
@dibudantlangemhlophe5727
@dibudantlangemhlophe5727 28 күн бұрын
True
@gambu4810
@gambu4810 28 күн бұрын
@@dibudantlangemhlophe5727 You all and your leaders can't hold a candle to Mbeki's intelligence and reading capacity. I doubt you or any of the leaders you aspire to has finished reading even a single book over the last 5 months. Mbeki reads a new book every two weeks and reads government and commission reports. All these are intelligence components.
@thetad1242
@thetad1242 28 күн бұрын
There it is, your feeling inferior and projecting at anything Mbeki. He threatens you, you are challenged and do not like anyone who seem more articulate than you.
@dibudantlangemhlophe5727
@dibudantlangemhlophe5727 26 күн бұрын
@@gambu4810 Wow, reading a book each day, that is wonderful, it keeps his mind very sharp and active, what he does with that information he collects from those book, probably it will add value in future, in his absence. The fact of the matter is South Africa is in the situation it is because of the former leaders qnd the current leaders of this country and Mbeki is one of them, he was the president and his tenure i would like to know if black people's lives improved in South Africa, the answer is NO, after him same it still deterioration. When they went to exile they had a purpose, on their return it was a different story, and here we're today, that is my point.
@olli1757
@olli1757 28 күн бұрын
No excuses,the ANC has destroyed itself and it’s time to move on before there’s nothing left of this country.
@karenj8406
@karenj8406 28 күн бұрын
Agree, too many parties
@LuyandaLanga-ig4qh
@LuyandaLanga-ig4qh 28 күн бұрын
Kwakutheni ANC i electing umntu onje kukho abantu abamnyama abavotela ANC lomntu ufana nqwa no Ramaphosa ngeke benzelento umntu ohluphekile
@MphoOSelepe
@MphoOSelepe 27 күн бұрын
Way too many
@Pundit.
@Pundit. 28 күн бұрын
Nonsense trying by all means to recreate himself... He failed and history is very clear
@dissoaugust6407
@dissoaugust6407 28 күн бұрын
Used to respect and honour him but after the flip flop i hate people tht lie especial mkhulus
@nhlanhlamanatha8799
@nhlanhlamanatha8799 28 күн бұрын
Same as the one who sings and dance in Al provinces at the age of 82
@melissasibindi7375
@melissasibindi7375 27 күн бұрын
Love it! He is a teacher who is encouraging further reading 📚 😀
@mandlasibanda9842
@mandlasibanda9842 28 күн бұрын
Best of Xoli
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 28 күн бұрын
30 years of wasted years by ANC and Mbeki.what does Mbeki stand for, what did he do as president for africans, who does Mbeki really represent
@AYANDA261
@AYANDA261 28 күн бұрын
From 1996 to 2008 did you see the rand? The economic growth, jobs, stability, low crime rate? Development, less potholes, low migration to our country. What are you talking about?
@Thokozani1787
@Thokozani1787 28 күн бұрын
​@@AYANDA261the country was on upward trajectory during his tenure. The decline was experienced post his term. People can say whatever...
@phumlamazibuko3003
@phumlamazibuko3003 28 күн бұрын
Nkosi Johnson and many others lost lives coz Mbeki didn't believe in treatment rather advised the nation to take garlic n beetroot instead
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
​@@phumlamazibuko3003that was the correct course of action in conjunction with not taking meds that caused attrition. Have you read his paper on why he was and is still against the meds? I would have hoped atleast you would have read his papers written by actual scientists not schoolchildren.
@doubletrouble1241
@doubletrouble1241 28 күн бұрын
Menemene ndini🤮
@user-yp1pu8kj7p
@user-yp1pu8kj7p 28 күн бұрын
THABO MBKEI PLEASE COME TO RESCUE SOTH AFRICA 🌍 🙏 😢 RAMAPOSA NOT INTERESTED IN ESKOM OR SARS RAMAPOSA BUSY LOOTING THEREFORE PEOPLE TURNING TO OTHER PARTIES 😢😢
@phumlamazibuko3003
@phumlamazibuko3003 28 күн бұрын
With garlic n beetroot haibo what happened to Nkosi Johnson the innocent boy in need to be saved but denied?
@user-yp1pu8kj7p
@user-yp1pu8kj7p 27 күн бұрын
@phumlamazibuko3003 WE know the wolf's and hyienas chased him away far so they have a better chance to make thier own rules and looting
@mothibeditseladimitloa3147
@mothibeditseladimitloa3147 28 күн бұрын
Our ex- Cde President is resting and enjoying his pension and why other elderly people still wants to become leaders again. Our country needs new ideas and not old ones. We are a democratic country and once one has completed the required term. It means he must give others a chance. No lifetime leaders because it creates a conflict. We must not be like Eswatini or Uganda or India
@sicelodlamini6546
@sicelodlamini6546 28 күн бұрын
When a key player is not performing... he's sustituted the fact that the ANC has problems from within it's high time to give them a break so that they can have enough time to renew themselves.
@gambu4810
@gambu4810 28 күн бұрын
Two of the best citizens in their respective fields in the history of this country. We love you Xoli and president Mbeki, you represent exceptionalism.
@user-ix4mq9fe6j
@user-ix4mq9fe6j 28 күн бұрын
Moyana no Zuma was destroying SARS
@phumlamazibuko3003
@phumlamazibuko3003 28 күн бұрын
Mbeki destroyed many ppl including Nkosi Johnson
@allichi796
@allichi796 28 күн бұрын
JULIUS MALEMA 2024, What are you WAITING for SOUTH AFRICA, "SHANTY SHACKS!?" If My COUSIN or BROTHER is HUNGRY or HOMELESS SO AM I, BLACK AMERICA SUPPORTS JULIUS MALEMA VIVA EFF
@Education7798
@Education7798 28 күн бұрын
First years SA worked well because it was fresh from a functioning system
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou 28 күн бұрын
Anc has set president that political party is lucrative path to join the trough,how many are for the people time will tell,good luck may the best win.
@musaxolo3096
@musaxolo3096 28 күн бұрын
This old man is talking nonsense
@mandlenkosishabalala8890
@mandlenkosishabalala8890 28 күн бұрын
Mzizi makes a valid point. The ANC is like a big factory producing products. Some of these products have failed in the market. Hence there were these factory falts. These are the people, formerly members of the ANC who claim that they can take the country to a better level of governance.
@CaptainGeneral11
@CaptainGeneral11 28 күн бұрын
If you listen carefully, Mbeki is not only suggesting Zuma is counter revolutionary he's also saying Ramaphosa is counter revolutionary
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
One is on the left, one is one the right. What is this revolution if both sides run counter it?
@CaptainGeneral11
@CaptainGeneral11 28 күн бұрын
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 he's not talking about ideology. He's talking about conscious decisions made to directly destroy and strip down functioning institutions
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
@@CaptainGeneral11 and if the functioning institutions ran counter to the revolution? I mean suppose you "strip down" or "destroy" the constitution which does not admit of the tenets of revolution like proper land reform, is that counter revolutionary still?
@CaptainGeneral11
@CaptainGeneral11 28 күн бұрын
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 I don't think SARS, Eskom etc ran counter to the revolution or in anyway prevent land reform. But people use their destruction as an excuse, reality is that those reforms can be done and some of the people saying they want to be elected to do those reforms have been in power for decades and didn't and now claim they can achieve them in opposition, that's an insane argument
@lindavandermerwe1237
@lindavandermerwe1237 27 күн бұрын
Solly can you attach the lists where we can read all these documens please that President Mbeki is talking about. I believe what he is saying make total sense. We have been lied to before 1994 and after 1994. We are tired of all the lies and therefore need to read all these documents .
@nkululekoshangase5942
@nkululekoshangase5942 27 күн бұрын
He fighting hard for the broad church , low key saying ANC has never been a left party .
@senzomemela1311
@senzomemela1311 28 күн бұрын
The CODESA peaceful settlement, was supposed to be followed by tangible economic reforms, this should have been effected during Mr Mbekis tenure, when ANC had a 2/3 majority....the end result is ESKOM that has no control of coal mines....
@babyboom6825
@babyboom6825 27 күн бұрын
Maybe that's why he needed more time like in China and Russia where they got more time to plan and implement their policies
@senzomemela1311
@senzomemela1311 27 күн бұрын
​​@@babyboom6825Mr Mbeki had enough time, but , like most ANC elites, he lacked the courage to make hard decisions,...he is a fearful man.....
@babyboom6825
@babyboom6825 26 күн бұрын
@@senzomemela1311 I agree. They do not have the balls. Plus remember external forces will make you toothless. USA, the funders, WHO, UN and other organisations influence your decision making
@babyboom6825
@babyboom6825 26 күн бұрын
@@senzomemela1311 but i really think there should be reforms. A leader must work with a generation and that is 15-20 years not tl what we have... we'll get nowhere in 10 years which is filled with uncertainty and fear of being voted out in the second term
@actuallywhatthehellissouthA
@actuallywhatthehellissouthA 28 күн бұрын
So these forces that intervene, have no names? This flip flopper must gtfoh sies
@mbusomabena9751
@mbusomabena9751 28 күн бұрын
😂😂 it's mad, now we have to believe in a ghost that is sabotaging the ANC🙆🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♂️
@n02hbby16
@n02hbby16 27 күн бұрын
Now I understand why he came back to the ANC the beast is alive and well
@bonolomakgatadeluent3150
@bonolomakgatadeluent3150 15 күн бұрын
Mbeki has mastered "Deny deny deny and shift blame on others"
@dumisaninxumalo7574
@dumisaninxumalo7574 27 күн бұрын
Renewal must happen at home we want to give other people who have South African problems to deal with.You cant deal with renewal while in government because when are you going to focus on South Africa.Finish the renewal and we will see you in five years
@mbusomabena9751
@mbusomabena9751 28 күн бұрын
Implying that all the state organs are failing because of external forces acting against ANC is wild🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️...with all the resources, intelligence, and capabilities 🤦🏾‍♂️
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419 27 күн бұрын
He says Xoli don't make me campaign for the ANC when he knows he is done abusing the TV space!
@melissasibindi7375
@melissasibindi7375 27 күн бұрын
Mana! Has anyone ever asked him about his policy regarding HIV/AIDS with his special ministry led by Manto Shabalala-Msimang (RIP).
@vuyisa5992
@vuyisa5992 24 күн бұрын
The ANC runs the education. But they failed to introduce Politics and the value of voting to kids in Primary, Secondary and Tertiary education.
@fusilibete4423
@fusilibete4423 27 күн бұрын
Mbekis emergence in campaigning for the ANC does not sit well with MK followers, I think he opened the eyes of many people who were lost to that party
@LuyandaLanga-ig4qh
@LuyandaLanga-ig4qh 28 күн бұрын
Sekumnyama nje kuMbeki akazinto tu
@thetad1242
@thetad1242 28 күн бұрын
You guys hate intellects. You feel the pressure when he speaks
@nontuthuzelomfazi6555
@nontuthuzelomfazi6555 27 күн бұрын
Listening is a skill. President says go and read. Then you can debate on what you know and quote on the information you had. Come back with what we can do to build SA. Stop criticising without solutions
@user-by1if1yu5w
@user-by1if1yu5w 28 күн бұрын
Thabo, a stalwart of the ANC, is washing the dirty linen of the ANC in public. Surely this cannot be campagning. Statements such as 'lack of intergrity in ANC membership generally' do not represent a campaign. Tell your parties to win full stop.
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 28 күн бұрын
A man who changes his position when it suits him his a dangerous man.since 2007 mbeki has lost his glory to the people,he has been overwhelmed by emotions of loosing democratically, some time he has to accept it one day and grow up.
@StormchaserZA
@StormchaserZA 28 күн бұрын
If you sit in poop for too long then it does not stink anymore.
@KwaneleFenqane-fb5me
@KwaneleFenqane-fb5me 28 күн бұрын
We Thank you Mr Zuma after your announcement to come back to politics, has led All those elders of ANC to come n grand stand only with a power to prove.. But it's too late we love Zuma n we know Mbeki fired Zuma as his deputy long time. Now he is very sick with chest pain because he can see if ANC is losing power, We a seating on a dark n he is saying he apologize n we must be happy, Wes part is he not affected with this loadshading
@user-kb7ic2pi6x
@user-kb7ic2pi6x 26 күн бұрын
❤Nuzroom is this an ANC owned station
@victorrhoda9245
@victorrhoda9245 28 күн бұрын
I would just like to say, Mr. Mbeki was my best ANC president. As an individual, he is an honest man, I can feel it, but there is a big BUT. Many years back, I heard from my Xhosa friend, that since 1994, meetings in Khayalitsha were held specifically with those groups. Whites and blacks are exactly the same for me. Both had kings and queens, both now like money and power and will sell out for it. Both seem to be separatists. Whites did not want to mongrelize and so do Xhosa. I do not know about the others. I am all about individualism, not groups. The major issue in South Africa, the fundamental issue is corruption. Collective and individual. If you listen to universities about socialism, it would tell you that democracy eventually lead to socialism, through a decay in democracy by greed of the wealthy and a revolt from the proletarian. This is the narrative throughout. Mandela joint all kinds of societies. Maybe there is much more to this story, than we think. Who is suppose to be the chosen, so called race. Who has the higher moral ground. No more one power. We have to work together. Coalition maybe better, since it deals with countability. Why do we call these people elevated status. Your honourable, esteem. Please, I am sovereign, "You are no king to me".
@MasterSun7772
@MasterSun7772 27 күн бұрын
It’s Xoli cutting him off at 31:11, Mbeki was about to reveal that the real problem isn’t the ANC, it’s much bigger.
@Education7798
@Education7798 28 күн бұрын
So when the people where fighting for freedom their quality was not questioned
@LL2019
@LL2019 28 күн бұрын
The ANC must be fair in implementing their internal processes. Otherwise, dont VOTE them in.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
President Mbeki sought to evince the trappings of neoliberal economic policy through what he termed immanent critique, this would have incurred for us short term suffering but long term gains. Respect the academic cadre.
@senzodlamini3742
@senzodlamini3742 27 күн бұрын
Zuma's interview was cancelled but Mbeki is given a platform to campaign for ANC. That is very fair.
@NokuthulaKhumalo-sb2le
@NokuthulaKhumalo-sb2le 28 күн бұрын
Why am my not surprised about this Xoli is people we called clever blacks they forgot they sitting there beacouse of people like Zuma who went to the straggle now they talking big English shame on him
@Thokozani1787
@Thokozani1787 28 күн бұрын
😂😂😂.. so was it only Zuma who was in struggle?
@jekecobs4378
@jekecobs4378 27 күн бұрын
These old men don't want to let go of power.
@WorkingPrincipleZ
@WorkingPrincipleZ 28 күн бұрын
This guy and joel netshitenzhe understand the struggle and the democratic project on all levels. They took notes whilst some where busy singing and dancing in the fields
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 28 күн бұрын
Without disparaging those who were singing, I have to agree with you. His immanent critique of neoliberal economic policy is one of the highlights in academics.
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419 27 күн бұрын
Thabo Mbeki you are saying National Dialogue like CODESA - AHAAAAA. Let it be a CODESA again with now the Sunrise 🌄 clauses!...Good boy!
@syabongsmfeka6720
@syabongsmfeka6720 28 күн бұрын
quality of ANC member my foot, its always been rubbish.
@nothandongubane7321
@nothandongubane7321 27 күн бұрын
He has live a very high life and lost touch with the people and only protects his interest while people are suffering. Stay at home and rest old man.
@Professor_Stark
@Professor_Stark 28 күн бұрын
The double standards of mainstream media and unfair campaigning advantage ANC gets to enjoy 48 hours before elections must be really nice hey. That’s what happens when they are in the pockets of Rama. Mxm this old man annoys me so much he should retire and leave politics.
@mothibeditseladimitloa3147
@mothibeditseladimitloa3147 28 күн бұрын
People are hungry for power and that is why we have conflicts around the world. We all want to go to Parliament and it's just like lawyers become liars even if they know the truth but because of business. The lawyer will protect the wrong actions!!!. Those who were leaders, must rest and enjoy their pensions. We say unemployment rate is very high , especially the youth of our country but if elderly people still wants to be leaders again, how will our youth get employed. All those over 75 years old must go on pension.
@mzothulemsezane2703
@mzothulemsezane2703 28 күн бұрын
He will never stopped being a doctor and a scientist to himself,ayingeke uMzizi weHlule mayebabooo.
@macmandla3582
@macmandla3582 26 күн бұрын
Why would Zuma leading government would want to destroy Sars? Who gives his government over 90% of its income ? While he is head of state ? Makes no logic
@jezuschrist7120
@jezuschrist7120 28 күн бұрын
Mbeki is confused , hambe ekhaya uyelima or go lecture eUNISA ,and stop this foolishness at your age ...anc is a bunch of incompetant criminals who have destroyed SA ...There is no rest for the wicked in hell fires
@user-ww5qw8jd3b
@user-ww5qw8jd3b 28 күн бұрын
What about Zuma?
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419 27 күн бұрын
No UNISA...HOME!
@smanqele
@smanqele 26 күн бұрын
I don't hear him condoning the ANC. He's not even campaigning. So does it mean he must not have opinions because he is an elder? There was a time when being an elder in Africa meant wisdom. Who announced this is over?
@SoultyBoiBeats
@SoultyBoiBeats 28 күн бұрын
So they can air this but not zuma interview
@khathi92
@khathi92 27 күн бұрын
Aybo I was watching this whole interview and Xoli kept referring to Thabo Mbeki "president " and not former president 😂😂😂 but when people referring to Jacob Zuma as president he have a problem about it😂😂😂😂
@Mrdjmavi
@Mrdjmavi 27 күн бұрын
We know you Thabo. After they educated you in UK, they deployed you to serve them. The least said about Ngambi, the better
@nhlakaniphozungu8018
@nhlakaniphozungu8018 28 күн бұрын
People died during his era refusing giving people Arv's, he was also behind cope akasiyeke lomdodovu wekhehla.
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