All I can say is you are 100% correct. Thanks Mark!

Hi Mark, I saw you commented on here. I just watched the video a second time last night (from 3 months ago 1st time I watched it)....yes of course, I had to last night make a second comment about this video!...

Thanks Joao! Maintenance is important for sure!

Thanks it’s fun!

Thanks Chris!

Neve a problem! thank you!!!

Thanks Eduardo I appreciate it! Let me know how it works for you. I’m going to probably use that method with my summing mixer for the next band I have coming up as well.

You’re right, and they do sound thick with lots of color. I have another 428 console without the frame. I was thinking of making either 500 Series Preamps or racking up 4 to 8 channels. But I have a lot of outboard preamps and a console full already so it’s pretty far down on my list as I’m busy with a lot of other stuff right now. Steve

It’s a great experience, I always feel like something is missing when I mix on a different system because I’m so used to mixing on the console.

Thanks man I really appreciate it! I have more videos coming up. Let me know how you like the api Sum Bus! Steve

Thanks JDUBBS, I have the same console as the one at 1979 they’re both Mci 428 consoles mine is from 1976 and I think his is from 1975. Anyway I totally understand where you’re coming from. It took me decades of saving and buying piece by piece to get my studio to this point. Same with learning to repair, maintain, and refurbish. It takes time to learn but we’ll worth it. Now it’s funny you said you’d like to see me show more on what I was talking about at the end of this video using preamps as line amps to mix through. I have a video uploading to KZfaq tonight and I go over my summing mixer and line amps. Then I do a quick ITB mix going through my summing mixer. It’s should be on KZfaq in an hour. Keep in mind a preamp can be used as a line amp all you have to do is pad it down. They’re the same thing. Thanks Steve

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Thanks for watching!

Thanks Takis, Yes my outputs are calibrated for -18 I went over this with Steve Firlotte in detail a while back and it works great for me so I never changed it. My AD inputs are cal’ed around -22. I don’t plan on changing my faders because these are P&G and work great. I don’t even know what new faders would replace these. I’d have to do research if I ever needed to, but doubt I will as these are in good condition, can be repaired, and I have a lot of spares.

What I do is use protools to trim or raise track levels if needed to go to my console at the level I want that particular track to be at. So I use the software to adjust levels before sending them out to my board. Then I mixdown to 2 tracks coming out of my console stereo Left and right. I record those 2 tracks back into protools below unity, depending on the mix could be just below zero and as low as -16db. Just depends on the mix, the style, if I’m mastering it or if it’s going out to be mastered. Some times I do multiple prints at different levels. Sometimes I capture the print on my Tascam DA-3000 and back into my Burls into protools. Then listen to both and decide which I want to use. Or send both to the band and let them do a blind pick to see what they want to use.

Thank you, yes that answers my question and makes sense.

Thanks Malcome, yes I built the 990’s and AM-10’s that are in my console and a bunch more that I haven’t decided where to put yet. Building them myself saves a ton, if I purchased them built and did my entire console it would cost approximately $14.k at $65 a piece. If I build them I can do my entire console for $2700 at approximately $12 a piece. That’s a huge savings. Not that I want to do my entire board. Yes it’s a Quad Console. Basically it’s just 2 separate Mixbuss options like the Satellite 5059. I can have different pairs of Opamps in each front and rear stereo Mixbuss and choose between the two or blend them together in any percentage. I can have the original Mci opamps on the rare buss and spa690’s on the front buss. If I want the all original sound of the Mci Console I just print off the rear buss, if I want cleaner faster transients I can use the front Buss or blend between the 2. I use my front Mixbuss all the time. But will try things like throwing a compressor with a heavy setting on the rear buss and blend it in to the front Buss with no compressor on it. I just have to try out different things and see what I like.

@@RiotHomeRecording Thoroughly amazing, and fun to watch.

Thank you Roberto, I’m not familiar with the K1, if your happy with the sound that’s what matters. A huge part of a great drum sound is how it’s recorded. If you’re not satisfied with your drum sound you should probably focus on how your tracking. Hope this helps Steve

Gary Barnette, same guy that makes all the GAR opamps.

Thanks Paul! I’m going to tell you what I use and consider the best stuff, it’s called Detox-it D5 it’s a red and black can. It cost around $18 but is worth every penny. Now they also have 2 others: Detox-it F5 this is specifically for faders it’s in a green and black can. And Detox-it G5 this is in a gold and black can this more for conditioning & coating. I have all 3 but the main one I use is the Detox-it D5.

@@RiotHomeRecording thank you!

Thank you

Thank you Phil!

@@RiotHomeRecording Hi Steve, Thanks for the comment. I remember watching this video 3 months ago and I found it so interesting back then, I just watched it again tonight! I am currently building a hybrid studio with an analog console sitting side by side with a digital console and being recorded/routed into a DAW. I did just recently buy a Neve clone mic pre (Warm Audio WA73-EQ and also their API clone, TB-12) and it makes a world of difference putting those transformers in the signal chain. I plan on getting more of them down the road, when budget allows, and right now my priority is to get the studio fully operational after dismantling it many years ago when I started my video business and now running a photography business. I am looking forward to writing and recording more Jazz Fusion originals like I did years ago. I like playing rock too (I studied jazz guitar quite a few years) and just generally enjoying all the gear and the studio environment in my home. Most of my rack gear is from the late 1980s and early 1990s. (Yamaha Rev 7, Eventide H3000, Lexicon PCM42, SPX900, etc... Your console rocks!...Great info also. I may watch it a 3rd time! All the best. Phil NYC Area

Thanks Caffeina! No I did not build this one, I have a lot of vintage api cards & parts so I designed it and paid a tech to put it all together and do the metal works and engraving. I am currently building one out of more parts that I have but it’s a different design that will work along with this summing mixer and stand alone. Thanks Steve

Thanks Mike!

That’s funny you say that I used to mix on my friends vintage api 1604, and I would tell him it sounds soupy!

I was doing a couple channels a night. But then would stop for a couple weeks then start again. So I spread it out over a few months. I was also doing my JH-24 at the same time. Recapping made a great difference. And was well worth it.

Sorry Evan, I don’t know any techs in NY, I don’t know many out here either. I’m familiar with my 400 series but not the 500 series.

You can email and tell me about your project at Voltiac@yahoo.com Steve

Sure you can, although I’m not familiar with the student consoles.

@@RiotHomeRecording this is my gears, rack neve 8108, tla audio mono compressor , reverb roland for the moment and a antelope audio orion (only sub plugs) .The studer desk have xlr in/out , 18 channels and 4 groups. there is a patch bantam for this inserts and aux send. What is the best way to plug use all this gears ?? Thanks

@@pascalderne100 Plug the output of your converters into the line inputs if your studer for mixing OTB, not the mic preamps of the mixer. The line inputs. use the inserts on your consoles patch bay to patch in your outboard compression.