McLeod trade could be beginning of the end for Peyton Krebs

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@captainahab4325 Ай бұрын

I would allow Ruff a chance to revive Krebs. There is definitely some talent there but there is something missing and maybe Lindy can get it out Peyton.

@HALFDEADHERMAN Ай бұрын

66PTS in 215 NHL games thus far for Krebs. He's a 0.30697674418 PPG PLAYER and not worth a roster spot on a team that wants to make a playoff push.

@captainahab4325 Ай бұрын

@@HALFDEADHERMAN I hear that. But I'm believing there has to be more for Krebs. I think he might do well under a more structured coach. I think Granato preached "let them figure it out" but Ruff will both demand more from Krebs and he will give Krebs a direction or rather a role to fill.

@HALFDEADHERMAN Ай бұрын

@@captainahab4325GMKA seems to agree with you based on his media responses. I just don't see how a player with Krebs numbers fits on a team looking to make a push towards the playoffs. The time for development was under Granato and Krebs simply failed to develop. IMO GMKA needs to move on from him now and get something in return, before an asset with depreciating value, walks in the offseason, for nothing. I'd trade Ryan Johnson, Peyton Krebs and a 2nd to bring in a guy with Joel Farabee's upside and not think twice about the cost. In his 24YO year he tallied 50PTS. Is Krebs going to tally half of that playing 4th line minutes in his 24YO year. I don't think Krebs would tally near 50PTS playing alongside Cozens and Quinn. I've seen enough of this fringe NHL'er and find the value Farabee adds to a team; desperate to boost goal totals from last season, is exactly what this TOP 6 needs infused into the lineup.

@Salty_Kashew Ай бұрын

Please don't give up on Ryan Johnson

@Donny_Double_Dip Ай бұрын

This fan base never wants to move on from players until it’s too late. We need to not fall in love with players.

@shanedomanick6344 Ай бұрын

No room and he’s not as good as we think cmon this fanbase cums for this man…he’s OKAY at best thank you

@user-dz1st8cv7p Ай бұрын

Ryan Johnson will be a consistent D. I would like him on the bottom pairing.

@scottlaboch4534 Ай бұрын

Sabres need to bring him up to team, not keeping him in Rochester. Trade Joki & add Johnson

@meatazzsandwich Ай бұрын

I'll take Ryan Johnson anyday over soft Power

@dnk4566 Ай бұрын

Love what rhey have done.. added toughness and speed. We will be very hard to olay against. Would be nice to add a Physical D man and still a top 6 forward. If we cant get that top 6 forward in a trade i can live with it for now.

@WideTier Ай бұрын

Oh you want another “top 6 forward?” How about trading for veteran Ryan O’Reilly? He’s still scoring 25 - 30 goals per year and was the Conn Smythe winner with the Blues when they won the Cup. Or make a blockbuster trade for another Stanley Cup winner, Jack Eichel? Or yet another Stanley Cup winner, Sam Reinhart, 57 goal scorer last season with Florida? Adams could trade a couple young kids for Colorado’s second line center Casey Middlestadt. If he’s good enough to be recent Stanley Cup winning Avalanche’s 2nd line center her should fit in at worst on the Sabres 2nd line, too, right? Evander Kane could play anywhere in the top 6, Adams could swing a trade for him. There’s all kinds of talented scoring top 6 players scattered around the NHL, aren’t there?

@dnk4566 Ай бұрын

@@WideTier no shit. Bitch and complain. Nothing I can do about what they've done or the past. Just hope for the future.

@user-gg1gb8pr9djrkscbsnotabot Ай бұрын

Physical dman yes. Top 6 forward, cya reply above^

@meatazzsandwich Ай бұрын

@@WideTierZERO chance of O'Reilly ever coming back to Buffalo

@bretthaller2096 Ай бұрын

Please do a future show on defensive pairings for 2024 -25 and I'm really confused about our goalie situation. UPK or Levi the future 1 tender between the pipes ?!?! Also who might stick around with us to develop and make the club and be around long term (if anyone) ? Scott Ratz, Topias and or Ryerson Lionoen

@privateer236 Ай бұрын

So did we give Krebbs the Tage Thompson or Casey Middlestat progression timeline or we just giving up on a guy that Granato dropped the ball on?

@robertbrown8900 Ай бұрын

Greenway may be slow but not all goals are scored off the rush. At some point, the cycle game has to come into play. Greeny has a big body so he can shield the puck on the walls. He was also an effective penalty killer last season - he can find a place in this lineup despite all of the new editions.

@meatazzsandwich Ай бұрын

Greenway was HUGE last year on the PK. Trade Krebs 100%

@AAA-o4g Ай бұрын

I don't see it in krebs, maybe Vegas did too in letting him go. Do any of the Rochester players have the grit we need when they come up ?

@jamesmiller6217 Ай бұрын

No, unfortunately. That’s one of my criticisms of the drafting/ development of the Adams era.

@meatazzsandwich Ай бұрын

I don't see it in Krebs either. Undersized. Weak shot

@centralhockey12 Ай бұрын

Foerster-Couturier-Konecny Tippett-Frost-(Michkov?) Farabee-Laughton-Brink Cates-Poehling-Hathaway That’s the projected lineup according to Daily Faceoff. The flyers probably know they’re no cup favorites, let’s be honest. They probably out performed expectations. Unless they REALLY just want to tank, then I don’t see them accepting that Krebs trade proposal of yours. Despite playing 16 mins of time on ice, he finished 3rd on the team in scoring. His time probably jumps right back up to 17 mins a night next season. What if Michkov isn’t quite ready? Then he probably gets that 2nd line spot. He’s gonna get pretty decent PP time too. My point is- I don’t think they see Krebs as any must get because you’re not getting any sort of upgrade if you’re Philly. Krebs probably finds himself in a similar role with less offensive ability proven. And especially- Henri Jokiharju is not any real upgrade compared to what they have. You have a decent idea, but the fit isn’t quite there yet. Philly probably continues to hold onto Farabee for now because he has a pretty good role on the team already. Especially if Michkov has his rookie struggles.

@centralhockey12 Ай бұрын

And as for the defense York-Sanheim Seeler- Drysdale Zamula-Risto Attard, E.Johnson Helge Grans, Andrae, Bonk on the way… They have 8 dmen who are NHLers, how good those 8 dmen are is a different question but Jokiharju doesn’t move any needle there Check back with a Farabee idea next offseason, I don’t think it’s there now even though the fit seems perfect for Buffalo

@evanrichter3893 Ай бұрын

Love the Joel idea

@benchambers1613 14 күн бұрын

Cozens is a monster on the wing. Slide him over and try and get a solid first or second centerman

@archbuff6289 Ай бұрын

Krebs sounds a lot like Mittlestadt three-four years ago. It will take him a little bit longer to find his legs. No reason to put the pressure of the Eichel trade on him. No reason to give up on him for a months' worth of 3rd line center duty. No first round draft pick gets the "18 games...that was his chance...and he blew it" assessment. Just give it a little rest, Joe, with the over the top language. I think he's quite competitive and he'll look at these new guys coming in and will work harder...that's the psychology of sports.

@mortal_gaming89 Ай бұрын

For a while I thought we would be shopping for a top 6 forward, but now I think they may keep Peterka there, move Benson to 2nd line and use the signings/trades to fill in the rest. They could keep Krebs (unless there is a deal you can't pass up) as his QO was just under $900k. So its not much to remove. Sign him on a single year unless he can do 3 years at just under 1mil (so he can be traded off with a contract) if he cannot improve in this year.

@jamesmiller6217 Ай бұрын

I’m sure they tried to score a top 6 winger, but no one wants to come to Buffalo. Peterka is a strength on the 2nd line, but a weakness on the top line.

@neilkennington2397 Ай бұрын

I agree with your/listeners 4 lines and thats how i hope the Sabres will start the season . Greenway is a good PK and he will definitely be asked to be more physical under Ruff. Hes in a contract year so it might be best to keep him at least until the trade deadline . Agreed Krebs will be a spare forward unless hes traded and sorry i cant see a Philly taking Krebs and Jokiharju for Farabee because they are looking to dump salary as they are over the cap .

@AAA-o4g Ай бұрын

Greenway should be in front of the net on the PP

@pistolpete7422 Ай бұрын

Krebs will be the spare forward, he’s only 23 with limited top 6 experience. You don’t give up on that until the new coach gets his hands on Krebs at practice

@centralhockey12 Ай бұрын

1 idea I had for a Krebs swap (in the future) would be the Seattle Kraken. I do see Yanni Gourde and Brandon Tanev are 2 guys expiring after the season….just an idea there. Some sort of Krebs for Gourde swap would allow them to develop Wright in a top 9 role after they just signed Stephenson….Gourde can play both center and wing. Krebs would likely continue to just be a bottom 6 fwd in Seattle though so I think Buffalo would add a tad more…good buy low options out of Seattle. Acquire a Gourde/Tanev and just stay patient with Benson becoming a top 6 fwd. Gourde/Tanev would be quality top 9 place holders for a couple of seasons.

@jamesmiller6217 Ай бұрын

Talking about Giving up on guys like Krebs and Greenway makes me revisit the Eichel trade. Tuch is fantastic, but other than that it doesn’t look too good right now. I never liked Krebs.

@TheDarthmalstrom Ай бұрын

@jamesmiller6217 talking about giving up on guys there was a guy who really didn't get a chance on the Sabres and was traded for scrap, his name is Matt Savoie. Pretty funny how that works.

@jamesmiller6217 Ай бұрын

@@TheDarthmalstrom amen brother. Worst move of the Adams era. Shockingly bad trade.

Ай бұрын

Kevyn Adam’s about to trade half the team, 14 picks, and 7 prospects for Joel Farabee. 🤣

@pUPPyLyPsE33 Ай бұрын

I think Krebs will hang on. Ruff will like him. Krebs has been used predominantly as a checker in Buffalo.

@ravensshadow2179 Ай бұрын

I don't think Adam's would admit he made a mistake in the Eichel trade if he trades Krebs. I think it would be the nail in his coffin especially if they trade him and he takes off.

@HALFDEADHERMAN Ай бұрын

In what world does Krebs turn into a quality NHL'er!? 215 games and only 66 points. NEXT!!!!

@AurorJeffrey Ай бұрын

Farabee isn’t that good, but the contract would be good value.

@HALFDEADHERMAN Ай бұрын

Joel Farabee isn't a Torts guy!? Torts benched him for nearly an entire game against NJ last December because he "doesn't listen". That's why he's rumored to be on the trade market. Despite that fact, he's an ideal Top 6 target who checks the "wants to be here" box. He's a 50pt contributor and proven NHL'er with 300+ games played. If he's paired with the right skill players, he could potentially tally 60-70 PTS. He turned 24 in February and is signed thru 2027 for a $5M cap hit. Adams should unload Krebs along with whatever spare parts from Rochester necessary to make a deal for a former 14th overall pick. Then Lindy Ruff can work on getting thru to a player who tallies 50pts and "doesn't listen."

@SeaJayAudit Ай бұрын

Exactly. Once you are in Torts' doghouse...often times you are there for a long, long time.

@HALFDEADHERMAN Ай бұрын

If he believes a player needs to sit out or a player needs to get benched in a game, minutes come down, no matter who that player is, he holds everyone accountable on the same level. I'm looking forward to Lindy Ruff getting the most out of this roster utilizing the same approach.

@benchambers1613 14 күн бұрын

Krebs has hands of stone

@darcyseguin8396 Ай бұрын

Trade Krebs to islanders

@khuffy1737 Ай бұрын

Sam Lafferty Is a Sabre

@b3rto574 Ай бұрын

What about Jack Quinn?

@edwardcarier1789 Ай бұрын

I am putting McLeod my 2nd line center. With Cozens & Quinn or Tuch and move Quinn up with Thompson. Not wasting all his speed and face off winning % to play with Benson & Greenway. Plus Cozens played much better on the wing during the IIHF tournament. This team has to be ready to win game 1.

@TheDarthmalstrom Ай бұрын

@edwardcarier1789 lol oh you're setting yourself up for major disappointment lol McCleod is fast but that's all he has, all speed and no finish. He won't hit, he won't fight, he won't go into the boards or battle for the puck, he can't be a setup man, and he really can't score goals. But he is fast, and wins faceoffs and is good on the PK and wants his shift to end as soon as he's on the ice.

@edwardcarier1789 Ай бұрын

@@TheDarthmalstrom We will see. I think it is more important to have Cozens on the wing. So GMKA better go find a 2nd line center.

@michaeldalsky1209 Ай бұрын

Thompson had size

@KetoFitChef Ай бұрын

Krebs and Greenway for a middle 6 winger and 2nd round pick (maybe a 3rd round).

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

That would be perfect but it won’t be enough

@KetoFitChef Ай бұрын

@@danevertt3210 depends really. There are a LOT of teams up against the salary cap. If a team has to fill a roster spot, but are against the cap, two players making $5,000,000 combined, may make that $5-$6,000,000 middle 6 winger expendable.

@itsrickus3582 Ай бұрын

Yeah, if Greenway already looked slow with last years lineup, this year is going to be brutal.

@elmo6620 Ай бұрын

Should have seen what lindy would have done with him before the savour trade

@codyge18 Ай бұрын

Greenway can sit, hes to slow, sorry to say. They have grit now

@gilles11dupuis Ай бұрын

Trade Samuelson

@Bur6212 Ай бұрын

Agreed. He can’t stay healthy

@scottlaboch4534 Ай бұрын

Trade... To Ducks: Krebs, Greenway, & 2025 draft pick To Sabres: Zegras & 2025 draft pick

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

Ya gotta be kidding, right?

@thehigsy Ай бұрын

@@danevertt3210yugh, exactly

@Bur6212 Ай бұрын

Gonna take a hell of a lot more than that to get Zegras… this isn’t NHL 24 on easy mode

@elmo6620 Ай бұрын

1 more year under lindy

@michaeldalsky1209 Ай бұрын

Trade Krebs back to Vegas

@fnshouse632 Ай бұрын

We need good Def players!

@Sabres1970 Ай бұрын

Krebs , Joker for Joel nada more nada less. Joker is ufa next . He leave for nada.

@TheDarthmalstrom Ай бұрын

Savoie in Edmonton will be elite whereas McCleod will make fans regret the trade. He's trash compared to Savoie

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

Yeppers…….awful trade

@pUPPyLyPsE33 Ай бұрын

They have at least 3 prospects including Kulich that can do anything Savoie might do in near future

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

@@pUPPyLyPsE33 that doesn’t mean you trade away top tier prospects for nothing

@ZeusWango Ай бұрын

He would benefit going down to regain his scoring

@Donny_Double_Dip Ай бұрын

EAHL player here. As a vet, I can tell you that this team doesn’t have it Sneaky J.

@BlackIjs Ай бұрын

Krebs is a goner.

@elmo6620 Ай бұрын

Savour trade pisses me off just as much as the Jeff Skinner contract signing

@heartoftexas8092 Ай бұрын

So many cry babies in Buffalo. happy I moved to the free state of Texas.

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

Hey I just moved to Texas too!!!! Texas sucks balls

@heartoftexas8092 Ай бұрын

@@danevertt3210 You must too.

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

@@heartoftexas8092 you don’t even know me…….dont do that “internet tough guy” crap.

@heartoftexas8092 Ай бұрын

@@danevertt3210 You are the one talking about sucking balls Internet tough guy.

@skeenybarbar Ай бұрын

Krebs will be fine!

@meatazzsandwich Ай бұрын

He's never been fine. He does nothing well

@mikemayhem39 Ай бұрын

I thought The eichel trade was terrible when it happened and it still is, we got back a top 6 guy who’s injury prone and a crappy prospect who was never valuable imo

@danevertt3210 Ай бұрын

And Kulich

@Free2b56 23 күн бұрын

If anyone in the Sabres organization still has a shred of interest in winning this offseason should be the start of the demise of Adams' GM career. Not that he has actually had a career. More like "cashing a paycheck".