Oh, I hadn't caught that Noursh and Combat Discipline synergy. Interesting combination!

@@TheKengineer It's good fun on a perma-meatball build since you're just blasting out plague as you bounce around. I combined it with Aquablades to give it the killing power it needs to trigger the viral nova, which then makes the blades kill even harder, been using it for Conjunction Survival SP with way more success than I expected.

@@yeoldpubman can u toss us your mod setup? this sounds very fun

@@yeoldpubman that sounds like a *slicey* meatball

@@KickieB Helminth Regurgitate -> Aquablades, Combat Discipline, Catapult, Arcane Grace, Arcane Guardian Triple Umbra, Adaptation, Augur Secrets, Archon Continuity, Stretch, Rapid Resilience A lot of this is pure comfort stats tbh, meatball is immune to CC but not status effects so I brought Resilience instead of PSF, exilus and arcanes are flexible. Resilience could easily be swapped out for Overextended/Augur Reach, either arcane could be swapped for Augmented, range and damage are always great and delaying full strip isn't a big deal since blades ignores armor. Maybe Augur Secrets -> Blind Rage and a +50 energy or +50% energy orb shard. Gourmand is a chunk of armor and makes Feast basically free since you have meatball's regen. Put up Aquablades, go into meatball, roll around maintaining Nourish and spamming Feast/puke all over the place. Puke toxin is fairly good at dealing with overguard, otherwise you have to get out of meatball and shoot it off.

And I thought I broke Styanax, I'm gonna have to try this.

A fellow individual of culture I see. i like to become the flying meatball and stay airborne in steel path circuit and climb walls and freak people out when they see me launching mobs into orbit lol, all while running around as a big blue ball like sonic the hedgehog. Peak fun.

As a Nezha main, I approve

I'd just leveled Grendel up for the MR before, but after this video (and his buff) I might bring him on missions for shiggles to roll around stripping enemy armor.

@@DragonKnightJin Yeah, that will be very useful!

Oberon with renewal makes the bleedout timers way longer and it's augment gives you a get out of jail free card every 90 seconds, I bring Oberon to every single one to counter this and due to those two things, usually end up being a better support then others like wisp Also the armor buff when used with hallowed ground as well as its rad procs makes survival even easier with the right build renewal works a bit differently when compared to other healing abilities. As long as allies are in the radius when it's cast, they keep renewal no matter how far away they go, as long as they don't do things like jumping off the map, clearing the buff It also only drains a noticeable amount of energy when an ally actually needs to be healed....combined that with nourish and you're buffing yourself and teammates in so many ways, you can even go a step further and use his 1st ability augment to give you and your allies radiation damage which the archon's armor is weak to (but I usually don't do this and put nourish over the first as using 2 augments is kinda hard on most builds) Doing all of this you can give yourself and allies radiation and viral damage on all weapons, increased energy from all sources, constantly proc viral in an aoe when anyone takes damage, significantly longer bleedout timers, a free extra life every 90 seconds, a heal whenever they take damage, and increased armor I recommend building for high strength and duration, and leaving efficiency and range at base as the buffs aren't hard to apply when fighting the archons since everyone is grouped up, and the more strength, the better the buffs. Duration also effects the drain of renewal due to it being a channeled ability I hope this all helps of you decide to try any of this out!

@@uncoveredkhan09gaming38 i appreciate you typing this all out. thank you. ill keep this in mind when i build oberon :p

@@snivycon804 good luck! May you get many tauforged shards

Sprint speed I think??

the answer is in your comment lol

Sprint speed, you can press the sprint button while in ball

I was about to test parkour shards

His buddy gauss can do the same thing too with Vazarin cause of his battery passive! It works even when empty and while the playstyle is a bit jank (having to hide from enemies so guardian shell can break faster) it still is a pretty effective survivability method outside of enemy toxin procs

He's always been good, the rework mostly made him easier to use and moved power from his 1->3

nah

​@@just4universe219I disagree with you

@@marquisepixley684 no he was bad. The energy drain killed his kit, his abilities were jank (his meatball couldn't go up hills/stairs, and having to cycle between buffs was annoying)

I also subsumed Noutish into my Titania and having Corrosive, Heat, and Viral (with Archon Vitality for even more Heat procs) works wonders for me. Especially the added energy multiplier, I can do without Energize and use another arcane like Pistoleer

@@cammrlw This is exactly what I was considering. Cutting out the energize is massive. Are you able to stay within razorwing for the entirety of a mission?

@@RaidenX196 if there are dwcent energy orb drops then yea! Which is most of the time. I can maybe see a problem if youre speedrunning a capture mission, but otherwise youre golden 👌

Why not just subsume and experiment?

@@yurifernandesgomes8210 I finally got the parts building as of the last day or so, so it'll still take about two or three more before I can test it, but as well limitations with builds is coming into play so I had wondered if anyone else had already tried it as of yet.

Grendel could already use catapult to go faster than gauss

what do you mean 112% dr

It would, but PSF can go into the exilus slot. If you're happy to go without natural talent (or have amber archon shards available), then the first build can accommodate the augment for sure.

For mods it is natural talent for shards yellow one can reduce casting speed

The usual high str wisp build will probs still dilute your slashes even with the boost from a slash mod but since you can force proc slash with sovereign outcast it's not the end of the world!

Exalted (or drain per second ability) will snapshot your current available str and duration, thus archon intensity will work. Life strike will also work, since it is a melee, so...

@@amolistic_ Yea. I love using Baruuk Prime in the new lua survival because I'll just turn off his exalted when in the aura of the dax guy, then recast for what, 100% more str forever? Yes please.

just checked the wiki and exalted weapons with life strike and healing return do not trigger it

His amp? It looks to be 777

I'm assuming you mean that slamming into a wall causes collision damage? Because slamming with catapult does launch them and it's funny af. It really should add collision damage though. Go literal bowling.

@@lespretend you need enough distance from the wall to gain speed to slam in to it, if you are next to the wall when you use the catapult it just rolls towards the wall. would be nice if it would always force a slam on the wall

yes

4 is for armor strip. 1 is for direct damage

It's ok. His helminth is insane for so many other frames.

during heavy attacks

the j:

Or just buff the garbage frames like inaros lmao Shield gating and damage immunity exists in basically every game that has infinitely scaling enemies otherwise they will be impossible to survive no matter how much health you have

So use his best friend, Guass, who is super skinny and clearly doesn't eat

@@lespretend i love gauss. he's like my only motivation of staying and playing. there's just something deep within the recesses of my caveman monkey brain that just keeps on firing ceaseless discharges of dopamine when i finger that number 4 key on my keyboard uhhgnnnnngnnngnnnn😖

I'm sure I'm very late but I have one response to this.. Catalyzing Shields

Do you also not like Wukong because he’s not literally immortal? Or Atlas because he can’t solo squat the sky or punch with enough force to crack an asteroid in twain? Or Valkyr / Revenant because they even have primes. It seems like a weird line to draw, and as someone who has played Grendel in the game this version is much more fun and player friendly.

@@michaelkohler1404 I agree I LOVE Grendel and his new update that buffed him, lets hope DE doesn't nerf him to the ground again!

Playstyle is up to each individual, of course, but the 'limit' isn't really a limit in actual play. You couldn't do the "LOL I ATE THE ENTIRE MAP" nonsense outside of specific meme situations, and with the rework you are continually 'using up' enemies you've eaten.

@@aliasisudonomo Yes, converting that to energy and power that is useful for your other abilities. Which is quite like how humans work in real life, besides eating EVERYTHING part of it!