This is NOT a paid promotion for the LS-82Z, but it should be. Really a wonderful machine.

Jimothy keeps the insurance companies honest Bimothy keeps the news agencies honest

Fun fact: US News and World Report stopped publishing actual news in 2010 to focus on just college rankings

I am currently working as a researcher in an international lab, side to side with people from Princeton, MIT, Berkley, etc. I did my education in a mid tier Spanish university. It turns out that physics is the same everywhere, so we all have the same level. What Ivy League-like universities offer are connections and prestige, not more or better knowledge. On the flip side, I do not have student debt, versus the tens (and sometimes hundreds) of thousands of dollars of some of my peers. I say this not to be smug, but to tell people that you do not need to go bankrupt to get an education (and that the US university system is a scam designed to pay for expensive football teams).

meanwhile every med student: “it’s so competitive. i’ll go to whichever school accepts me”

Here's my 2cents as a med student. Ranking doesn't matter. As long as your doctor 1) finished med school, 2) completed residency, 3) genuinely cares about you, then you're fine as a patient. Top schools don't always produce caring doctors.

I'm not sure how Harvard and Yale will survive!!!

The -imothys are the true heroes, keeping their respective companies from becoming full-fledged cartoon supervillains instead of full-fledged cartoon villains.

goddamn, Bimothy got some balls. Timothy was cowering at the first sight if an incivility, Bimothy just straight up slapped his boss in the face. here's hoping Timothy got a better and kinder job and Bimothy can kickstart the boss's redemption arc.

Bimothy: "Why do we even need to do the rankings? Ranker: "Tradition." Bimothy: "You mean peer pressure from those who have passed away?"

As a PhD student I wish someone did satire about my field like you do about medicine 😂

A news agency reporting on the news instead of ranking things? NOOOOOOO!!!!

That line about gauging your self worth and intelligence based on where you get accepted…I felt a tear well up in my eye 🥲

NEW IMOTHY JUST DROPPED

Doesn't matter what med school I go to, M.D., D.O., couldn't care less. I want to be a doctor, not an ego driven maniac. As long as I get into a med school I'll be happy, I'll be taking one more step towards my dreams, and one more step towards saving lives. I once knew someone who was completely disgusted at the thought that I would consider attending a state D.O. school, It's a fine looking school with a personal connection to my peoples history (Native American). I even have a potential full-ride opportunity assuming I work within a facility which treats my people for a few years. I'm still in undergrad, and my GPA isn't pretty at the moment thanks to a whole host of issues I've faced the last few years (Family deaths, Covid-19, loss of job, very non-trad college journey spanning three degree paths which wrecked my GPA, etc.) but I don't. I will do everything I can to redeem myself and become the best doctor I can be, I will try and try again, study, apply everywhere within reason, and I will make them tell me no. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

At 35, the best med school will be the one that accepts me as a nontrad with mediocre grades, a mediocre mcat, and 25,000 hours of experience as a medic. I just wanna embody the rural medicine/emergency medicine life

Having worked on the USNWR ranking for my children’s hospital, I can tell you all it’s a game and it’s all about money. So their specialty groups are primarily comprised of big names from big institutions or hospitals who will rewrite or add questions to make their institutions look better and give them an advantage. It’s not necessarily reflective of the actual care or education institutions or hospitals being ranked provide. Just a money game that I can’t ethically get behind any longer.

This....was awesome. Signed, a parent of a former Jonathan who is in med school Ps these rankings made me sick with worry Pps if you or your child gets into med school, seriously, way to go and congratulations

I went to a local Community College for my first 2 years of college getting an Associates Degree in Business and Accounting. I then transferred to DePaul University which is a highly ranked university known for their accounting program. DePaul was on 10 week quarters and Moraine Valley CC was on 17 week semesters. When I was taking my 1st accounting classes at DePaul the other students who had been enrolled at DePaul didn't even know many different accounting terms, calculations etc that I was taught at the Community College! I'm glad I saved a boat load of $$$ at the highly ranked CC! When we walked across that stage to get our DePaul Diplomas I got the same piece of paper they did - it just didn't cost as much!

Honestly it's time that more people know the more expensive a school is doesn't make it better. I went to a state college for nursing school and it was a great learning experience. I tend to look for NCLEX pass rates and how fast you can get a job after graduation 👍

I attended Physician Assistant program at a very small university about a hundred years ago. I was concerned my "fund of knowledge" would be lacking but later found myself well able to hold my own with graduates of far more prestigious schools. Of course, our Clinical Med instructor was a holy terror who never let us get away with rote answers and made us defend our opinions. He taught us to think!

Love Bimothy! My two cents though are that while this is a great gesture, I am not sure if it will really cause a seismic shift at least in the short term. Mainly because schools like Harvard are so well-equipped with resources and connections and are so well publicized in relation to many other schools that they don't really need the ranking; even without it, they have several other ways of making applicants look at them as the superior schools. The proof is in the fact that their pulling out of the ranking system is in itself gaining so much publicity, which is increasing their reputuation all the more. If a school ranked 93 or above removed themselves from the system, we probably wouldn't hear of it. The onus therefore is really on the media to highlight those schools that, although not highly ranked by US World News, are providing unique and invaluable opportunities to their students and leaving a positive impact as much as Harvard and Stanford are. It's that "equity of press" so to speak which will give students a much better idea of what schools are the best fit for them, rather than setting a few schools on a pedestal above others for all students regardless of their goals or requirements. This increased attention will in turn lead to those schools receiving the kinds of resources, connections, and funds that the Harvards and Stanfords of the country get. That's when the ranking will really lose its value. Easier said than done, but something worth aspiring for and working toward as future physicians (hopefully an ophthalmologist in my case :D) and proud future alumni who will give back to our respective alma maters. Thanks for spreading awareness as always Dr. Glaucomflecken!

Don't matter which medschool you go to, First Aid is your curriculum

As a state school graduate, I appreciate your expressing the insecurities created by this process.

After guiding one of my high school students through the application process-including the dreaded essay-she was accepted to U of M’s college of nursing. After getting the happy news, I asked her if she was excited about attending. “Well, I’ve decided to go to Grand Valley,” she answered sheepishly. “What? Why?” I wanted to know. “It’s cheaper for one thing,” she replied, “And besides, they have a study-abroad arrangement with a school in England, which I like because I want to work in international medicine.” I was so proud. (Full disclosure: I did some post-grad work at State, so there’s that.)

Let us not forget about Tristopher, doing his best to keep the research journals honest!

Thanks for this. Had no idea that all the us news and world report did was rank schools. Now I’m in camp Bimothy about that.

You know what they call a medical student who graduates last in his class? "Doctor"

It’s funny that you mention these top schools because they send recruiters to my university’s bio department every year to recruit us for internships and even early acceptance programs. And their administrators love to give us tips on how to increase our chances of being accepted into which grad school we choose

Support the removal of school ranking. students have been having nightmares for this .

My college celebrated when it crossed the top 100 in the general rankings. They gave up so much of what made the school good to do it. No surprise when none of the students celebrated. Long story short: most people went to my school because it was industry focused and even made all Engineering degrees 5 year programs so all students could take 2 semesters to work full time in our fields. The school has been hard pivoting into rebranding as a research institution because it looks better in the rankings.

To be honest when I was deciding which med school to go for I had no idea what the rankings were actually based on, people and culture mattered most to me. When I found out what they were actually based on it made my school's "decent rank" feel even more worthless. The big ranking people look at is literally just "how much $ did you spend on research last year?" ... And no qualifications like what the research was on, you could spend $10 billion researching the relationship between punctsotony phil seeing his shadow and the incidence rate of genital herpes and you would be ranked #1.... I will NOT miss this system.

you are absolutely brilliant, so true! would love you to do a skit about admin staff in hospitals and their egos (and nurses too!)

They way he said "so poor" got me hahah

Sadly this is so true about a lot of professions, but there are places that will accept your state schools. Thank you for bringing this up.

Another great video from the doctor. Keep it going

The rapid zoom-in shots are everything

Do Bimothy, Jimothy, and Bill drink at the same bar? Feel like this would make a good story to share, maybe Bimothy can inspire his pals

Bahaha! Love it, Dr. G! 🤣 My premed advisor told me to apply to 20 med schools. It's all a racket 😒

I just love the character names

I would rank this among the top-10 videos you’ve done.

US PGY-1 here and today I learned that there are med school rankings.

Killed it again, bro!

Honestly, having looked at all of the rankings this past year while deciding which schools I applied to… the “rank” of a school meant next to nothing in my decision making. The point isnt to go to an Ivy school. The point is to help people the best way I know how.

I am extremely entertained at the thought of Dr G slapping himself in the face while trying to look like someone else is slapping him in the face. That can not have been an easy shot to take.

sounds like law schools, business schools...basically all 'professional' schools want to know the last time the law school I went to mattered? The day I had to register with NY and they ask what law school you earned your JD from

My experience as a doctor- I've never really been asked where I went to school.

Law schools started doing this a few months ago, glad it's happening in med too (hope the changes stick for both) A good lil bit of overcompetitive school solidarity

I can't wait to see what the next iteration of "imothy" is

Students should be taught the largest factor on how well you do after school is how well you apply what you learned in school. Not what school you went to.

Genius as always. You had me at Bimothy.

If only every sector had an -imothy to inject some humanity into its proceedings and decision making processes.

This is the same thing for law schools as well. Great video.

Michigan also pulled out of the system. On a side note, for Harvard PhDs there is a question on the application "How did you hear about Harvard?" How did I hear about the most well known insulation of higher education in the English speaking world? I don't know‽

Coming in a bit late, but the same thing is happening to law schools and we’re SO happy

This is your best one yet.

Rankings strip us of wonderful experiences in order to obtain just one number. One school might be better in research, the other in patient care (hard to measure btw.). One has great surgery the others a life. And you will never know by a ranking where you will find your true love.

Ah Bimothy and Jimothy, the voices of reason in greedy and unreasonable companies.

Omg… this is my nightmare as a librarian …. Having to deal with this ranking bullshit.

Remember kids what they call the last graduate in a medical class... Doctor.

Thats an honorable move by the med schools thats been ranking high on US News. However, there remains the demand of a rank. There will be another ranking system to replace this one, which will probably be full of subjectivity and based on even less data.

If this is based on something that actually happened, I'm very curious to know what it is, lol!

Makes me think of that old saying "You will know if someone, that you have just met, went to Harvard, within 5 minutes.

This is hilarious!! 😂 I think we need a niche Netflix show, starring **the** Dr. Glaucomflecken!!

This feels like such a uniquely American thing too. I don't know about medicine, but this has been a subject of discussion with lawyers I've worked for on both sides of the border. Like, to look down on someone because they got their degree at the University of Calgary instead of, say, McGill (which I have heard jokingly called the Harvard of Canada) would be laughable because they're all basically the same.

One thing a learned in life is that people who have less resources are far more capable in coming up a resolution especially in critical situations.

Excellent advice.

The ivy leagues have left the rankings! How will we make any money?!

Nicely going through the grief stages 👌🏼

I think this is great! There’s plenty of people who would make great physicians that can’t afford Stanford. Maybe this will make things more equal across the board. There’s nothing wrong with State schools. There’s nothing wrong with taking some pre reqs at a community college. What’s wrong is when you owe more in student loans than your house is worth, if you can afford one

The one I do think has some value, even if it probably helps reinforce biases against less prestigious programs, is their ranking of med schools compiled from residency program directors

I was a biochemist undergrad so worked alongside undergrad medics sometimes (I love Dr G jokes about the Krebs cycle because I know med students hated it all) and the top universities tend to attract the best students and that is all. How good a doctor they turn out to be is due to a lot of other factors. That said, I know a few really good ones that did go to a top med school, very decent human beings and great with patients. They are at the top of their professions and very well deserved.

Iowa is a great medical school with the VA Hospital nearby for teaching

hilarious bit. But it goes both ways. We still need merit based metrics which are being stripped away currently.

Hey hey from Sacramento! Kasier telephone RN and you make me laugh so hard!

I go to Stanford for undergrad, and I promise, they are just fine… we all literally bend over backwards to be here and they know it.

Unfortunately, I suspect now the “ranking” will just be implicit and people with little experience with the american college system will not have as much of a benchmark

Bimothy and Jimothy are top tier twin names! 🧑‍🤝‍🧑

Its more like so residencies can evaluate people on something other than step scores

Maybe he’ll report on his own role in the now-defunct medical school rankings, it’ll be a self-report

As a current medical student in a DO program, I take boards. I can take MD boards as well as have to take my own, DO specific, boards. I can specialize in any specialty I want when I get my degree. I have to go through residency like the graduates from Yale and Stanford and Harvard do to practice medicine. Heck, I might be in a residency program with some of those graduates. Then I have to take a test to practice in my state of choice like graduates from all the top schools. The layman does not care where your training came from, they just want to know you have the knowledge to help/fix them and that you do it without being a pompous jerk. Medical school is medical school. All the schools have to present the same basic information for accreditation from their accrediting body. How that info is presented, how soon you see patients, where you live for your training, HOW MUCH IT COSTS mean so much more in picking or applying to a certain programs than what they actually teach you because it's all the same since we all have to take boards to prove that we have competency at the end of the day.

Adapt the German system. No rankings, everyone works at where they want to, not where they are told to go and we don’t have to call insurance companies for pre authorization. Love from Germany ❤

Okay, I may have dribbled a little, laughing, at "Bimothy." 🤣

Law schools dropping out made sense because school ranking plays a huge factor in job placement but for healthcare school ranking doesn't really matter so I think med schools dropping out is more just grandstanding than anything

Only if PD's saw this... Wait nvm, they still use rankings/prestige to rate resident applicants...

Obviously we should be ranking students with our feelings based off a zoom interview.

UCSF is a state school that is always in the top tier. A first class medical education at state school tuition rates. What could be better?

Jimothy and Bimothy need to unite to combat their terrible employers.

“Report it”😂😂😂 Love it

I love the UK; it does not matter where you attend university. No one in the hospital cares if you went to Oxbridge, St Andrew or Plymouth university as long as pass med school and you can safely do the work and hopefully can communicate with patients.

Pro tip: go to the least expensive med school you get into. Work hard. Perform well. Residency and possibly fellowship training is more important. Keep the debt down and the opportunities become more doable.

the first word of the video sounds like mike tyson saying bbc

You know what you call the guy who graduated med school with the lowest gpa? Doctor.

A friend's stepfather went to a Caribbean med school, never took his US boards and operated a thriving practice in Washington DC...for a while.

I've been saying these rankings were garbage for years and those schools near the top of the list should have done this long ago as they have some skin in the game, credibility to call these rankings out as crap. Only wish the hospitals would follow. Who would have thought the law schools had more integrity to pull out before the med schools.

what you did before med school doesn't really matter. It's what you do in med school that makes you a great doctor. Some of the DOs I met during my training were one of the most intelligent people I have ever met. Knew every single questions, knew everything about patient care. Absolute beasts

PA here. I know for us, literally zero people care about where you got your letters after your name. Go to the cheapest school you can. I would assume it's the same for MDs.

No Bimothy. I will not go down that path again! Where will you go? .....SPORTS!

"Okay."

Next step, remove rankings between MDs and DOs. Then certain foreign medical grads.