what a coincidence I also love THE WORLD REVOLVING and Nightmare Knight because they use instruments from Kirby Dream land 3 I am a big fan of Kirby

I still believe Jevil will play a key part in later chapters as he is still alive in the form of the Jevils knife/ tail. Not only that but he is also powerful since he can sense Noels power and what she is capable of. It is also important to mention that unlike other characters from chapter one, Jevil does not turn to stone upon entering another dark world further deepening the mystery behind his origins. One more note is to pay attention to Seam I reckon he knows everything and will most likely be a key part in uncovering the origins behind Jevil who in my opinion will be the key to the entire law of the game

@@BadLuckBoi what a coincidence that Kirby dream land 3 and DELTARUNE both games are about fighting darkness and Jevil looks like a Marx kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdODmbSLvZO-o6s.html

Ok I’m thinking evil is mike but just under a new name

YES! Love NK's Kirby vibes. :)

Maybe for one part of the melody, yeah thus could totally be just a motif. But the fact that Dialtone is entirely made from the world revolving just kinda makes me think that there's a bigger connection between Spamton and Jevil besides both being short, memeable bosses

Maybe for one part of the melody, yeah thus could totally be just a motif. But the fact that Dialtone is entirely made from the world revolving just kinda makes me think that there's a bigger connection between Spamton and Jevil besides both being short, memeable bosses

@@gxv4078 I think it's going to be a connection with the secret bosses. My theory is that they will all be connected in some way we don't know about yet, and all will have communicated with who we assume will be Gaster.

@@gxv4078 I mean given that Dialtone lines up perfectly with The Circus, I'm thinking this is just going to be a trend between the secret bosses.

@@micahlehrke9 I think they will be all linked by being things that are generally discarded. Jevil is the Joker card, which is always discarded from the deck before the cards are dealt. Spamton is spam mail, which people over the age of 9 and under the age of 70 generally ignore or "discard". The secret boss of Chapter 3 will likely be the flowers Asgore told you to give to Toriel, because she threw them in the trash, discarding them. Likewise, the final secret boss could possibly be the vessel you made at the start of Chapter 1, as it said that the vessel would "now be discarded."

Its not completely happy and upbeat, yes its upbeat indeed, but you feel like something is missing...

also Gaster's Theme, being just a repeating four note melody that's found literally everywhere, probably because Gaster is literally everywhere

Why is this line so familiar ? ( I am so sure I heard it from somewhere but I can’t think of it )

@@mossystabbyboi9710I think one of the gaster followers in undertale says it

@@bobfruck Gaster's theme can actually be heard in the Freedom Motif

Yup probably intentional given the tone and inspirations of cucumber quest

@@Lonewulf321 true true

kinda sounds like "Empty Town"

@@JollyTippy yeah! i can hear that lol

thats what i was thinking

Added this to my Ralsus list

@@tailpig6417 Ralsus

@@tailpig6417 When the Ralsauce is sauce

@@Dullification ding ding ding x1000000 times

I really don't think so

You think it originates from Nightmare Knight because it does (Even thought it was a coincidence)

Nightmare Knight also sounds very similar to "Amalgam" from UNDERTALE, so I wouldn't be surprised.

@@DaNuthee ah good to know

@@DaNuthee Toby Fox just made one track and now jumbles it in order to make OST for his games.

Perfect, yes

When is The Chase used in Chapter 2? I don't remember hearing it.

I think the main reason to think the circus is B instead of C is the tail of the leitmotif between the two sections. In B the notes are something like - v - ^ v - while C is "flatter" with - v - ^ - -. Dialtone is flat, while the circus includes this low note into higher note. Hadn't noticed the bassline was reminiscent between them, though. Something neat to note is that the middle section of the world revolving shares this - v - ^ structure as an opening to the motif (- v - ^ - v - ^^ - v - ^^^ - v - ...), which suggests that the four note phrase is what the entire song is built around. It might also be all of the notes used in Gaster's theme (v - ^ -), just in a different order, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if they're the same or just vaguely similar.

@@sheogorath6834 in the "ILOVEMOUSE" puzzle

yeah, circus definitely sounds like B to me. B: The Circus, THE WORLD REVOLVING (0:20), BIG SHOT (0:54) C: Dialtone, THE WORLD REVOLVING (1:00) Dialtone and The Circus might be related, but i think that's just a standard waltz backing. A Town Called Hometown does something similar, but i doubt that that makes them related. it's interesting. why do they sound so similar? (- _ - ^ v - ) vs (- _ - ^ - -), it's just the tail that's different. i saw some people start calling it the "freedom leitmotif", but i'm not even sure why at this point. of B and C, which one is it? do both count? if spamton's themes only took from C, or only took from B, i could see that as being a general "freedom motif", but it's hard to say when both characters share both themes.

@@pkchiptune I'd probably pin the leitmotif to (- _ - ^) since this is used in the third/middle section of the music in The World Revolving (- _ - ^ - _ - ^^ - _ - ^^^ - _ -). It feels like everything in The World Revolving is built on that four note phrase, it's just integrated in different ways.

I wouldn't use this name in this particular case cause the supposed "freedom" theme in TWR are the B and C parts (they are in Dialtone and BIG SHOT), but The Chase and The Door ( Nightmare Knight by extension) all use the A part.

@@elaimaro122 i guess only chapter 3-7 can solve this, maybe its just spamton and jevil being related in some way But that's a good argument

@@sebaq I gotta bet one of these is probably some sort of foreshadowing, so it is pretty hard to come up with appropriate name, considering we don't have the full picture

I've seen others calling it this aswell

I just hope it's not lumped in with the nightmare knight leitmotif just because it's in the world revolving

Cool blog. Glad to have confirmation that the pattern of those notes is meaningful and not just vaguely similar.

My money is on the notes being E G G

@@TheKyubiisaan Maybe! Minor third's a common interval, but maybe those deknightful notes are something to look out for.

@@TheKyubiisaan Egg?

Probably a coincidence though since gasters theme goes down a note after 16 notes and none of these songs do Also the first four notes Also one note down from the world revolving would make it gasters theme Also the rythm is all wrong so it’s basically like saying you can hear heartache in that one waterfall theme I can’t remember what it’s called

I also can’t wait for the next secret boss theme! I wonder if it will sound similar to Hopes & Dreams or Finale, considering that it will be in the house with the hymn book and discarded flowers? BIG SHOT and THE WORLD REVOLVING mixed with Finale or Hopes & Dreams is something that I never thought of before, but it could potentially sound really good.

My guess is this particular motif will constantly reappear actually, to signify future characters of importance like spamton and jevil.

man, it’s gonna be great when people forget about spam tongs and move on to the chapter 3 hidden boss.

@@datcap6289 i have a feeling people aren't gonna forget about spam tongue

@@asaghcfgdfuyvhrghflowey9997 oh no they’re not gonna forget about spank tombs!?!.,!,1124,.,

I think that they are more in relation to Gaster than the Knight. Mainly because Spamton NEO and Seam directly reference Gaster (Seam says that his vision of the world has become darker, yet darker, and Spamton NEO tells Kris that he wants both of them to be 'VERY VERY BIG'.

However, Spamton does get worried speaking about the Knight. He gets silently told by something to stop speaking about it, as he says "Did you know that the Knight..." before apologising refusely and in a very intimidated manner.

The knight is probably Alvin for some ppl because Alvin is a priest and Spamton said communion

Spamton isn’t really a secret boss he has a route where you have to fight him while jevil you don’t have to fight in either of routes like pascifist or genecide

@@marcosrangel2988 it is somewhat out of the way, just that you can't avoid that initial encounter which makes him much more involved

Also has a Dummy leitmotif, that makes a connection with ghosts, and a bigger connection with Mettaton.

@@DemiIsNotHere The Dummy! leitmotif makes more of a reference to the fact that Spamton and the Dummy are both nothing more than puppets, stuck without any real control or freedom, and both are discarded, forgotten things.

But its just the bassline of the legend

Lantern make sense since the past of Seam and Jevil

You know I think jevil and spamton theme parts are going to be in the next secret boss theme

i mean, people call it the spear of justice motif and not the undyne motif

@@oliveoiI i call it Undyne Leitmotif

Well, that's true, we only know that B is the most plausible 'freedom'/secret boss fight motif

f r e e d o m

I'm betting that if we ever do fight The Knight, that they'll have a flavor text in their fight of "Freedom arcs through the air" or another such "step up" from the common flavor that Spamton and Jevil have.

For me it should be "secret boss" Leitmotif. Because freedom is a weird name for something

@@leonannaves9273 People use "Freedom" because it's something Jevil and Spamton have in common, but "Secret Boss" is also valid. ("The air crackles with freedom")

@@leonannaves9273 Actually freedom has something to do with the secret bosses’s lore.

@@gumagxstd2287 i know, i'm just saying its a weird name for a leitmotif

@ I KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING ITS A WEIRD NAME FOR A LEITMOTIF WAIT!!! WHY IS THIS COMMENT ALL CAPS????? this is better.

2 years late, but the "I'm with you in the dark" part is featured throughout at least half of the songs in the game

@ThatZeoMan Hm. Must have missed it.

More accurately, you're hearing the last bit of Don't Forget ("I'm with you in the dark") in the ending segment of TWR. Don't Forget is a tune heard in several songs of Deltarune's OST.

Okay. Everyone realized this after i commented

People will compare any arp that goes (note, higher note, highest note, 2nd note again) to Gaster's theme tbh

The Legend and Don't Forget motifs are in most CH 1 soundtracks.

i have

I was first

and also ATTACK OF THE KILLER QUEEN!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE GETS IT. PEOPLE SHOULD LIKE OUR COMMENTS WHICH ARE ACTUALLY USEFUL OTHER THAN USELESS CRAPPY JOKES.

The actual part that seems to be shared among all secret bosses is only what this video calls “part B” or “the _Freedom_ leitmotif” as the fandom calls it.

Hate to break it to you but that part's already been reused. Just not in a SB's theme It's the main leitmotif for Queen, not Jevil lmfao

@@Bonnet9330 wait, how? I guess they share similar intervals, but I don't know what you're getting at.

@@Elec.Balloon Tell me these do not sound similar kzfaq.infoUgkxKaaZx7Xs2tt8jkdK9o_PWY3gl0oYriX2 kzfaq.infoUgkxEiQbdGQQsnvn2OgY5V1e5PMXblsvkk6c kzfaq.infoUgkxEDFw8H7yFVH8WO0DpgDoGzrwadyKnmmH kzfaq.infoUgkxIVYMdCGN181cY-FI57FXDDk2uyGP2_cE

@@Elec.Balloon There's alao this part of Attack of the Killer Queen at the end that uses the Queen part 1 leitmotif, except it's pretty much morphed into the World Revolving segment Put this on 1.50x speed and it sounds nearly identical kzfaq.infoUgkxEQgaumdziPdTQu9-Y9cMDmKIs96fMpMW

Yes

Or A is Knight leitmotif

pretty cool webcomic, you should check it out