We're they taking about you?

Sheesh that’s so terrifying and to not be believed after? I’m glad the dr believed you. I’m glad they didn’t charge you for it. I recorded my surgery from a device I placed on my gurney. Not the dr, but the staff were talking crap about me saying that toxic mold isn’t real etc, but one of the nurses shut them all up really quick, explaining that she went through toxic mold poisoning before as well, so she understood how real the poisonous effects are. I appreciate that nurse advocating for me while I was knocked out.

they ALWAYS will say they do not believe you and that its so rareit couldnt be possible... UNTIL you tell them EXACTLY what you heard them say. then you still get resistance but they will apologize and say they didnt see any signs or know what or when you are referring to... they DO. its rare with general but Ive been informed from working IN ORs as flouro andxray tech, that isdoeshappen moreoften during sedation without general. they still dont like to talkabout it though

So sad for what you went through😢

Wow, I’m sorry you had to endure that! How terrifying.

The same thing happened to me, St Angeles hospital in Tijuana. Apparently they have no word for "redhead", I woke up as the metal door was closing to the operating room, and I was screaming, I was even trying to get up and out. They held me down and were laughing at me. They were laughing hysterically after several minutes. After they held me down again, one of the men came over and said, you're not really awake, you're still asleep you're under anesthesia and we can't give you pain medicine. I started screaming autheda mae por favor, mucho tingo. Something like that, and they started listening better, and once again tried to hold me down, and this one guy, tried to tell me once again, that this isn't real, and to go back to sleep, because it's impossible. I remember every single day, and I cannot get it out of my memory. It haunts me everyday. I wonder if it was my red hair? I will never know, but if you've got red hair I'm f****** warning you. The anesthesia b******* is true. Do you have red hair?

@@hyperionsolomon8718 I don’t, but I’ve started telling anesthesiologists that I’m very resistant to sedation, and that morphine does not work as a surgical pain reliever for me, which are two things I unfortunately have found out through experience. I had a doctor try to give me morphine after a surgery despite me telling him it doesn’t work if I’ve had any type of internal surgery, he didn’t believe me until he realized the reason my blood pressure was so high was because I was in excruciating pain. They gave me dilaudid after that and I was fine. Another time I was able to recall an entire conversation a nurse had with my doctor when I was supposed to be sedated for a quick medical procedure, and I definitely freaked the anesthesiologist out with that one. 😂

​@@hyperionsolomon8718there is a word for redhead in Spanish. Pelirrojo or pelirroja, depending if you're male or female.

@@SleepyWolfGirl male vs female, I see. Hmmmmmm. Impressivem

Yes ask what meds he is going to give you and what happened. Tell him or her that if you don’t feel comfortable with their response that your well being is far more important than the whole surgery and you would not be afraid to cancel even in the OR and they could take all the backlash if they don’t give you the consideration that you need and to just be forthcoming with reasonings if something comes up. That is your right to autonomy and if you openly cancel even after signing, pre write it in on your consent that you will retain that right until you are comfortable with the staff. You can write in what you need to on your consent form and just initial it and date it. It is your body.

Always discuss post-op pain management with your anesthesiologist. Before the op.

@rohandhanota9944 I couldn’t agree more it’s just sometimes on a practical level a patient needs to know what can/ could or how to go about doing those necessary steps. There really should be an outline as to not only what gaslighting is but in a practical way how we can avoid it. Medical professionals fall victim to it as well, yes, we are sometimes sucked into that cooperate machine that we work for and no gooders will violate HIPPA having a good ol time reading through our confidential medical files. It is almost worse honestly. But hey, if Dr K is still there, it would really be appreciated if you could have legal counsel advice. I have a lifetime of cruel punishment inflicted upon me and I worked as a Trauma Nurse Specialist. Recently I was delivered the world ‘s worst brachial block and I am suffering. Surgeon was great but charting was lies. Thankfully I had a nurse anesthetist and she knew what happened. I just want to prevent this from happening again. To have my rt arm cranked up so high that it flopped and tore til kingdom com was an understatement. Yet I feel like this “investigation” is taking a tour. I feel belittled. The nurses came in there one by one saying how that they all thought that I should be admitted. Being stuck so many times and NOT knowing anatomical markers. led to me having issues with my rt side of my phrenic nerve and that is not a joke, not even for the surgeon. I am almost sorry for bringing it up but I really think that it is important. My friend was there as well even though some might have thought she spoke only one language. She waited for more than 30 minutes on the other side of the curtain. She had the front seats and was very strong. So just as a subscriber, health professional, and patient, please cover as pts what can be done. I was sexually assaulted too. I wasn’t allowed off of work. And I blew the whistle on the majority who were unbelievable. I didn’t do it for me. Now I need help. Sad I suppose. :(

Are you doing okay?

That is scary to even read. I certainty hope your surgery went well and that you were kept comfortabkecwuth adequate pain medication!❤

lol same. It was so incredibly painful when I woke up and they put me straight back in the room. The nurse told me to wave my arms around. I think it has to do with the fact that removing a gallbladder they have to put a lot of air into you, and that’s where the majority of the pain is from (as well as the incision). Perhaps we didn’t remember receiving anything for pain when we woke up. I have no idea

This happened after my hysterectomy

This happened to me too when I had my gallbladder out. I remember literally screaming in pain.

Horrifying

@@annettecamlin9090 I’m so sorry this happened to you ❤️‍🩹

@kimcwhite6509 back then things were still backwards. 🙄

When I broke my shoulders in a motorcycle accident I was using opiates already before the accident. They gave me 800 UG fentanyl and 10 mg Dilaudid so In Vegas I feel like I've gotten lucky. And they gave me a button for a fentanyl drip so clearly some places are different but every surgery I've had they've taken hellaaa good care of me

Depends on what type of surgery. I had a lung wedge resection last month. My doctor gave me a nerve block and sent me home with hydrocodone. I didn't need the hydrocodone after I got home. The nerve block kept the pain down enough that I only needed to take Tylenol for pain. The nerve block has pretty much wore off. I'm having some pain still but managing it with Tylenol.

Sadly I had this. Partly a nurse and partly dr at time (esp night shift.)

I can't believe how little pain meds people are sent home with. I had a friend had double mastectomy given very little pain medication. I have a low pain tolerance they would have been running me back to er for something! I would have been going insane from that kind of pain!! People are stronger than I am. God bless them. I am not scared to ask for pain management and I do not get more than I need I usually stretch my emergency rescues for bad days for a long enough time they know I use it but not too often. Prevention is key, but who doesn't have extra good days that end up with you over doing it which then leads to a bad day!

I don't like strong pain medicine, it makes me so sick 🤢 I used to be able to take pain medicine fine before, but now it's just too much.

Undermedicate?

@@genespell4340yeah when i got my wisdom teeth removed I woke up screaming in pain. They had a local anesthetic (lidocaine) they had used on my mouth but it wore off after I was awake for 10-15 minutes. I was crying and I hardly ever cry. Some of the worst pain I had ever felt in my life. An hour or two after the operation my face swelled up so bad I looked like a chipmunk.

Me too 🙏🏼

Do you take meds (like pain meds) for your chronic pain? If you do, you're probably sensitized to them, so when they do give you pain meds during surgery it won't feel as effective to you than if you weren't taking anything. I have this issue too- I have a chronic pain condition and have had multiple surgeries and procedures- when I had surgery they had to keep cranking my dose of pain meds up when I woke up and I barely felt anything. I also had a hard time during recovery because my pain meds didn't feel like they did as much so we had to bump my dose up just while I was recovering. Not sure if this helps but I know that has happened to me. Even when I go in for light anesthesia for a procedure I keep talking until I'm out because generally it takes a little more than it would on someone my size (I'm very small for my height!). Hope this helps! ❤😊

I am sorry this happened to you. Have you been able to report it

You were not anesthetized enough. But you had a paralytic given that keeps you from moving. Succinylcholine is never given to someone who is not anesthetized and intubated.

Why not disclose it here? No one knows who you are

@@cathyjones4702it’s probably embarrassing who knows

Fellow ginger here - woke up with excruciating pain in my lower legs and calves, feeling like soreness. Couldn't walk properly for days. The surgeon made me feel like it was my personal fault that the exploratory laparoscopy didn't find anything amiss, so I never dared ask about the pain.

​@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaatifyThat's insane! Anesthesiologists are taught that redheads anesthesia have to be adjusted due to a gene mutation that is related to them being redheads. That's why they usually ask redheads if their hair is naturally red.

I'm a born redhead, had excruciating pain post surgery, never knew this about redheads

Yep. We’re all mutants

@@helenmcdonnell2585 I don’t know if this could be helpful but I’ve learned hydrocodone doesn’t work for me. I have the opposite reaction where I get wired, restless and hyper aware of the pain and how long I have to wait for it to wear off. I don’t know why I have this reaction but I do much better on weaker meds than I do on hydrocodone.

What does it have to do with being female?

only if youre doing surgery on them i imagine.

Coma patients are prescribed as needed, every case is different. But yes they do get it.

My son was in a medically induced coma and had a fentynal drip. He was on it for a month and as they were trying to bring him out of the coma, they weaned him off of it.

Surgery is cutting someone open and rearranging their innards. Being in a coma and lying on a bed is quite a different experience, but I would imagine that if it's accompanied by injuries or other painful conditions, they'd need to give pain meds. Especially because sometimes, people are actually aware of their surroundings to some extent while in an uncontrolled coma.

We found that my mom actually needed pain meds while she was also treated with psych meds to help control her dementia. The psych meds just worked so much better when accompanied with a tiny half-dose of tramadol or percocet. It kept her from thrashing about and throwing things at her caregivers, nurses and even her doctor. We kept her bedbound with meds because she forgot how to move her major muscle groups in sequence to keep her from falling down. Court permission, with her doctor's affidavit, was granted as she was my legal conservatee. Controversial, yes - but absolutely necessary and actually the kindest thing we could do for her.

I’m so glad I read your post. I’m getting surgery on my hip very shortly. I’ll be asking the surgeon about this. TY for sharing that.

Going to surgery in a.m. will be addressing this ASAP​@@gppoem3344

For most so you don’t wake up in too much pain in recovery. Makes stabilizing pre op pain easier. It depends on the person and procedure. If you already have chronic pain and esp if position for surgery will make it worse you’ll prob be given something for pain. Pain often triggers stress and it’s hormones. Not good for recovery.

@@jmc8076 definitely makes him more interesting knowing that it can vary from patient to patient

I read that one😢

Price and quality are not connected especially in the healthcare industry. Quality comes from the values system established by the hospital and has to be emphasized and enforced.

@@cremebrulee4759 what you just said is a bit of an oxymoron. How is it then that hospitals that have to stick to federal regulations, are charging these prices, but not providing equally high quality of care?

We live under capitalism. When profit guides the government and production, one cannot expect anything more than the profit motive to guide everything and make workers miserable. Wages are not profit, btw.

@@ProleDaddy odd. I live in Europe, a continent whose major countries (UK, France, Germany, etc) each operate under capitalism, yet we’ve all somehow managed to avoid the ‘cost’ of medical bills? Stop blaming a system for the way it’s implemented. European nations are living proof that capitalism is good for people if regulated. Perhaps one could argue these policies are more socialist in nature, however they are merely socialist _within_ a broader capitalist system.

Anesthesia actually means "controlled death".

Anesthesia actually means controlled death.

@@micheleerwin2848wow, that’s morbidly impressive

I think he's trying to say anesthesia means "controlled death" ^^

You never heard about a controlled coma before? I'm pretty sure it's different from going under but I could be wrong. I'm not a doctor.

Not necessarily. There could have been an emotional trigger also and for some people narcotics can make them actually a bit more prone or sensitive than usual and that is their way to release those emotions. They might cry. Imagine all the presurgery stress and that gets done and now due to the procedure one receives something that helps them relax more and sometimes it goes that way. I don’t use the word hysterical when crying because it’s use is saved many times for women if you look up it’s origin. I have seen men cry deeply. Crying hard is just that. When they are asked if the are having pain most do not remember it but surgeons also can numb internally in the gut for example to help with post op pain. Remember that it takes a bit for our brains to readjust so that the signals are not as uncoordinated and that is why surgery is it’s own area and it is further broken down into specific surgery specialists.

this happened to me after i had my tonsils out as an adult! I cried from the pain and nothing else. I was brave going in and not worried and not expecting it to be that bad

Makes you feel like a criminal for asking… If you find a doctor to prescribe them… The next hurdle is trying to get your pharmacy to fill your prescription, as you stand there fighting or getting dirty looks. You end up with your prescription, barely. And the next month you have a general appointment with a doctor who is going over your medication list, and you get the "OMG, you're taking this? That's such a bad idea," all while not knowing why you were prescribed it in the first place. So now you feel somewhat embarrassed, but then you remember everything you had to go through to get the prescription in the first place, so you just ignore them.

yup, always needed less iso when they gave a nice dose of opioid in the premeds. Did you also find that animals with a sensitive personality would be easier to put under?

Profit is all they care about, nothing else.

NOT clueless. They don't care. Satan's spawn.

That is the stuff Nightmares are truly made of!!!! Please try and always take another person with you when having surgery or being hospitalized. That way at least they see that you have support and a witness. It's a very sad and pathetic fact that it seems this is where we are at in being able to trust our medical care professionals!!😠 So very, very sorry that you were put thru that horrible inhumane treatment!!!💔

Similar thought process I just had. I remember years ago getting a colonoscopy and upper endoscopy under sedation but woke up afterwards in pain for days through my whole body. Now I'm wondering if it's because I was only knocked out without pain relief even though it's not a surgery.

You could try asking for an open MRI next time. They are a lot better than being stuck in that tight tube that they put you in during a regular MRI. Less frightening if that's what you're worried about. I'm very claustrophobic!

I totally hear you. Talk with your pain mgmt doctor so that the positioning will work be more comfortable. There are open MRIs but as one who has such a painful time laying flat you should be able to get a dose of something perhaps with something like Valium which would increase the effect of the pain medication. They know that having movement artifact doesn’t help anyone. So a one time pain med dose with a mild sedative is what I would ask for. During your MRI request earplugs but also your most favorite calming music and focus in on that. They can turn up the volume and drown out some of the noise. Ask for knee wedges and when you are inside to have those wedges to be more supportive around your arms. Then try to enjoy the music and being in your favorite spot on the planet and use that imagery to carry you through. They will work with you. Have a driver and just sort of lose yourself in the music. As someone who is claustrophobic I don’t even need open MRIs anymore. Ear plugs and loud calming music are my go tos and I have to make sure I take pain medicine. They will help you. Now I sort of view it as a hug and they really pad up the table for me and all of my former issues disappeared.

@@melissalambert3537if you look for an open MRI these days I suspect you’ll have a hard time finding one. My dad who is claustrophobic and in his 70s has always preferred those but they haven’t had them at the last 5 facilities where I’ve had MRIs done in the last two years because the image quality is inferior and just doesn’t show the detail that the doctors are looking for apparently. They are still around but not easy to find and a lot of insurances won’t pay for them. I am also claustrophobic and I can’t do the regular MRI unless it’s for the lower body where I can go feet first and have my head stick out. And I have to take a lot of Xanax. 😖 If it’s anything in the upper body I have to get general anesthesia.

It’s more common than one thinks. I almost died and it was blatantly obvious that I had a LAD occlusion caused by not cholesterol but inflammation and so I had 2 heart attacks or myocardial infarctions with it also affecting my cognitive function. I will never be who I was. If you are ignored at a hospital you can call 911 from that location and by law the ambulance then has to take you elsewhere. I transferred to a level 1 trauma center and the damage was done unfortunately. Whom ever does the EKG just read the words if you don’t know how to read an EKG and you can ask what basic words mean without discussing yourself personally. EKG interpretation isn’t difficult and one can learn the basics maybe even on KZfaq but you have the right to see the copy before it leaves your room. I also want to add that every MI can have its intervention tweaked a bit. If one responds positively with nitroglycerin then that could mean that it really is happening. Some places give aspirin but if it is a true MI with pain then the muscle of the heart releases proteins like overused muscles do so those tests are important as well as a really decent cath lab.

Wow that's a lot. Sending rays of support, from one stranger on the internet to another ❤

good luck, hope it goes well😊

I hope everything went well & you're feeling better!!🙏🫂

I had a knee replacement but had an epidural so I was awake talking to the anesthesist. When my blood pressure dropped low they stopped numbing. Then I felt & heard Dr cutting into my bone. I suggested more anesthesia, when done they gave morphine it Was 9k. .

Ok, less pain.

I woke up during my wisdom tooth surgery from GA and said I didn't want to die and that was the first time someone had ever came to during GA and said what I said.

I had both my back teeth ripped out with pliers while awake. They said I didn’t need to be under. All I got was a few shots in my gums which did numb it but I could feel and hear it happening. Mind you these teeth to me were perfectly fine, they just said they needed to take them out because of a cavity. Completely barbaric looking back

@@michelleawe1899 well then bless the heart of your surgeon who had internally numbed you because that is what they do for proper surgeries. You see you actually were internally sufficiently given enough block to help you but you didn’t know but all of us that have worked in surgery do know!

U must a very high pain tolerance. Asking and assessing a patient in regards to their level of pain is always best. The pulse always rises in pain or stress but it's better to keep ur heart rate down. Speaking as a retired 20 plus year nurse

@sabrinabowden-hughes1730 I do have a very High pain tolerance. my doctor and nursing staff were amazed.

@sabrinabowden-hughes1730 yes and why he made the deal or I wasn't doing the surgery.

Lordy! That was some experience. Glad you came out of it alright.

Ahh common sense. I wish every doctor had it. 😂

Paralyzed on one side of your body is a symptom of a stroke. The only other cause I know of is a hemiplegic migraine but in that case you regain use of the affected side within 4 to 5 days, a week max.

@@kontrygrll01amerika54 they had a hard time waking me up after anesthesia they said they had to do a couple Narcan or whatever that medicine is to try to wake me up that was quite a while they were worried. Then when I woke up I thought I had an epidural because both of my sides were paralyzed. And they said no I did not have an epidural within a day my left side started to regain feeling but it's been 5 and a half years and my right side still is paralyzed. I got this surgery to feel better so I could enjoy doing things we never had a chance to do while we were raising our children. Now I still have a hard time accepting it, in my life is really hard I'm not looking for sympathy I'm just telling you what happend. So make sure before you have any type of surgery to talk to your doctor and really understand what he's saying to you because my surgeon couldn't be found after my surgery he left and went home. They had to call him back that night to let him know I had no feeling on my right side he was very as a matter of fact with me and honestly never said he was sorry or gave me any type of assurance I would get better or he could help. But I was told if I have not found it after 2 years it's probably not coming back. Then I guess because it was Friday night my surgeon left again and I didn't see him for probably 6 weeks I saw a lot of PA's all with no answers. They gave me Gabapentin hoping my nerves would Spark but after 5 years it's not happening