Medieval Fantasy REALISTIC WEAPON LOADOUTS - Roleplaying, Writing, Gaming, Movies

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Here we look at some realistic weapon loadouts for fantasy roleplaying games, video games, novels and even TV/movies. The fantasy genre is justified in expanding realism, but not when it comes to what a human can actually carry and use!
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@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 3 жыл бұрын
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@CRBASF2
@CRBASF2 3 жыл бұрын
A sheperd sling could be a great ranged weapon alternative to both bows and crossbows since It's just a piece of rope and the ammunition is easily be sourced. Once the ammunition is placed on the pouch It can be operated with just one arm so the other arm can be used to carry a shield, that's how they were used in medieval battlefields: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_N%C3%A1jera#/media/File:Battle_najera_froissart.jpg
@tsamoka6496
@tsamoka6496 3 жыл бұрын
Multi-function weapons and equipment! If you can pack as many functions into each single item you're carrying, then you can wear a smaller total number of items in general. In realistic medieval stuff, that may be limited to some extent, the laws of physics can only be stretched so far after all. But with medieval fantasy, you can bring magic into play and munchkin power-level your equipment to your hearts content...or at least to the limits of what your GM will allow! =^x^=
@exploatores
@exploatores 3 жыл бұрын
It´s kind of fun. In some computor games you carries around a wagons load of things, weapon and armour. I kind of wounder where the spear went when i decided to use a great sword. don´t know where the shield went.
@Pallyrulez
@Pallyrulez 3 жыл бұрын
Noooooo don't waste the legendary tome!
@mrd7067
@mrd7067 3 жыл бұрын
You might be interested in the german pen and paper RPG "Das Schwarze Auge" (the black eye). I know some of it is aviable in english di don`t know how much though.
@benjaminholcomb9478
@benjaminholcomb9478 3 жыл бұрын
"Imagine that we are in a medieval arms and armor merchants store" Matt, that's what you do, like literally.
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's more of a 18th-19th century antique sword dealer, not so much a medieval one.
@Frencho9
@Frencho9 3 жыл бұрын
He's Solas from Dragon Age inquisition, hiding in London as an antique arms and armor merchant from the other elven gods
@user-pq4by2rq9y
@user-pq4by2rq9y 3 жыл бұрын
Except when he is trying to sell us raid shadow legends
@buzdygan5488
@buzdygan5488 3 жыл бұрын
"imagine we are in a medieval arms and armor merchants store" so pretty much nothing changes
@FENomadtrooper
@FENomadtrooper 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, that is his dayjob.
@ziweiwang1704
@ziweiwang1704 3 жыл бұрын
I'd leave out the word "imagine"
@gfarrell80
@gfarrell80 3 жыл бұрын
Ye Olde Weapon Shoppe
@charles2703
@charles2703 3 жыл бұрын
I just picture a grey scale tint over the video
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 3 жыл бұрын
I love the thumbnail and the whole video. Also you would be a perfect "weapons merchant" NPC, someone should totally make that.
@afinoxi
@afinoxi 3 жыл бұрын
Skyrim modders should take notes.
@EsterMaelstrom
@EsterMaelstrom 3 жыл бұрын
hello there
@wanahmad7100
@wanahmad7100 3 жыл бұрын
Well that is very expected person to come by
@jeremiahshine
@jeremiahshine 3 жыл бұрын
A little tape on the tips of the ears would turn you into an instant half-elf man-at-arms.
@christunnell2377
@christunnell2377 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, but the "ye olde medieval fantasy arms and armor and equipment merchant store" is quite a mouthful...
@padalan2504
@padalan2504 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, the lewd fighter trainer. Lindybeige, the rambling wizard trainer. Metatron, the enraged armour merchant. Skall, the annoyed weapons merchant. Shad, the ranting enchanter.
@jimmyfaxel3898
@jimmyfaxel3898 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put
@benjaminholcomb9478
@benjaminholcomb9478 3 жыл бұрын
YO!! Official head cannonry
@unexpectedparolemadwerewol6565
@unexpectedparolemadwerewol6565 3 жыл бұрын
Tod from Tod's Workshop is the armorer in this world, yes?
@jordansmith1541
@jordansmith1541 3 жыл бұрын
@@unexpectedparolemadwerewol6565 The artificer, actually, I would say.
@padalan2504
@padalan2504 3 жыл бұрын
@@unexpectedparolemadwerewol6565 Oh ye, He sells crossbows and shanks of all kinds, a perfect contact for the rogues.
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust 3 жыл бұрын
Matt: You'd probably want to take your armor off while crossing a river Frederick I Barbarossa: ain't nobody got time for that
@mangalores-x_x
@mangalores-x_x 3 жыл бұрын
By several accounts, including by one of the priests accompanying his retinue he died going for a bathe and swim in the river so unlikely to have worn any armor at that time.
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust 3 жыл бұрын
@@mangalores-x_x I'm aware there are multiple accounts for the cause for Frederick I's death, but some of the accounts list him drowning in armor. We don't really know the exact details. Regardless, don't ford rivers wearing your halberk!
@henninghesse9910
@henninghesse9910 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Barbarrosa was almost 70 and wasn´t enjoying all this adventuring back than, I would guess.
@jorenbosmans8065
@jorenbosmans8065 3 жыл бұрын
Was a looking for this comment 😄
@josephpeck8723
@josephpeck8723 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine what might have happened if he had simply survived that damn river crossing.
@SGWeber
@SGWeber 3 жыл бұрын
What’s especially bothersome about the lack of shields and armor in the Lord of the Rings films is the fact that Tolkien explicitly says the characters use shields and wear armor, including Legolas
@brainrunnethout
@brainrunnethout 3 жыл бұрын
Legolas had a bow, quiver and long white knife at the start, but they ALL used armor and appropriate equipment during the main battles.
@Pentagathusosaurus
@Pentagathusosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
Tolkien also never once mentions plate armour of any kind iirc but somehow PJ decided every lowly pleb from Gondor would be outfitted in full plate armour that doesn't actually work but looks awful. Reeeeeee
@timlewis5527
@timlewis5527 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pentagathusosaurus i don't so much mind the plate armour but the uselessness of it was a ridiculous directorial choice. Could have easily hav e been shown as effective and demonstrating how significant the overwhelming numbers of the orcs were to the battle.
@cognitivedisability9864
@cognitivedisability9864 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pentagathusosaurus actually the soldier of minas tirith would be some of the best men in the kingdom, it was the allied states(southern fiefdoms) that brough up more yeoman like troops. Sad that they didnt include the half elves of dol amroth in the movies.
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 2 жыл бұрын
@@cognitivedisability9864 not half elves- men with some elven ancestors
@asfm2
@asfm2 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to note for missile weapons is that if you absolutely have to have a ranged weapon, but already have a polearm or otherwise can't effectively carry a bow or crossbow, slings and darts are good alternatives. Projectiles can be carried in small pouches, I've seen plumbata strapped to the insides of Roman shields, and a sling could be wrapped around your arm or on the belt or literally anywhere else easily accessible.
@BlackJar72
@BlackJar72 3 жыл бұрын
...and you weren't even wearing a backpack full of rations, camping equipment, potions, rope, iron spikes, and looted treasure. (Let's not even talk about ten-foot poles.)
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
Medieval and early modern soldiers did not carry much camping gear according to our sources. They would sleep rolled in their heavy woollen cloak or even greatcoat, not in tents. Though here in Greenland, things are different. I would expect the colder parts of Scandinavia and Russia to be as well, though there you have the advantage of trees, which is invaluable.
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 3 жыл бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen Yes, most recreation kits have: Cup, bowl, spoon, knife, flint, tinder (or shavings box), blade sharpener or other weapon maintenance items (Like wax, twine, oil and cloth, etc), gaming set (Usually cup and dice), religious tokens, and some rope/string. Not much more than a double wide belt pouch of items. They seemed to rely heavily on baggage trains and local foraging while on campaign, hence why attacking logistics was so damaging.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 жыл бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen Yes, because they had supply trains (or personal servants) to carry it for them en masse. Small companies or individual adventurers as discussed in this topic may not have such luxuries and may need to handle all of it themselves.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlekong7685 No awl/pricker to accompany the knife or for general hole-punching?
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 3 жыл бұрын
@@nevisysbryd7450 Not historically. The company armourer/quartermaster would probably have them.
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 3 жыл бұрын
According to ancient Chinese generals, the best weapons for the Dawi/Dwarves are halberds: ”The basic rule of warfare that should be taught is that men of short stature should carry spears and spear-tipped halberd, the tall should carry bows and crossbows, the strong should carry the flags and banners, the courageous should carry the bells and the drums, the weak should serve in logistics, while the wise should be involved in planning." -"Wuzi" by Wu Qi
@macharim
@macharim 3 жыл бұрын
Orks would be excellent archers. Tall, long arms and exceptionally strong.
@bully_hunter_4206
@bully_hunter_4206 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@rikospostmodernlife
@rikospostmodernlife 3 жыл бұрын
@@macharim you're making me imagine some d&d long-armed bugbears using japanese bows
@caelb9764
@caelb9764 3 жыл бұрын
@@macharim I'm stealing this for my DND world lmao
@NMahon
@NMahon 3 жыл бұрын
@@caelb9764 just look at Lurtz from LOTR for inspiration!
@MrJakedog104
@MrJakedog104 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, "Imagine that we are in the medieval fantasy arms and armor merchants store" Skallagrim wants to know your location
@Abayas.
@Abayas. 3 жыл бұрын
I love stuff like this. The normal sword stuff too, of course, but seeing it applied to fantasy is so much fun.
@davideddy8557
@davideddy8557 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the Lindybeige channel. He has several like this.
@terrenusvitae
@terrenusvitae 3 жыл бұрын
If you want a missile weapon, take a sling. They weigh little and their range and damage are underestimated.
@Thesandchief
@Thesandchief 3 жыл бұрын
and rocks are everywhere
@Isaac_howell
@Isaac_howell 3 жыл бұрын
@@ObsydianShade you can just use stones off the floor, they won't be as accurate but itll work in a pinch
@somebloke3869
@somebloke3869 3 жыл бұрын
And slings are much more silent than any sort of bow.
@thejackinati2759
@thejackinati2759 3 жыл бұрын
Slings were very much carried as an individuals weapon way back in the day, perhaps more commonly than many people assume. They were even encountered in urban settings, as in the case of Benvenuto Cellini, who recounts the rapidity at which people pulled out their slings and started throwing, after noticing that one of their 'Kin' was losing in a duel. "There was a great crowd of people present, among whom were many of the adversary's kinsfolk. Seeing that the thing was going ill for their own man, they put hand to their slings, a stone from one of which hit my poor brother in the head. He fell to the ground at once in a dead faint" The Life of Benvenuto Cellini Also, regarding the subject of sound... Slings can be both quiet as hell... or loud as fuck! How loud your particular sling will be depends on multiple variables, tapered or non-tapered release cords, style and thickness of the braid/cord and the length of the tassel at the end of the release cord can all affect whether a sling will be loud or not. You can 'silence' a sling though in the case of slings with longer release cords (Which are meant to be held in the fist rather than by finger... though you can hold these by a finger) by folding over the end of the cord over itself and stitching it shut... in effect creating a tab at the end, this tends to create a silent sling.
@Flexhunter308
@Flexhunter308 3 жыл бұрын
@@ObsydianShade hitting a rabbit with a sling is no easy feat.. I’d rather carry a bow and quiver with an axe and dirk on my belt and a long sword on my horse.
@AnotherDuck
@AnotherDuck 3 жыл бұрын
DM: This campaign we're playing with full encumbrance rules, so be careful with what weapons and armour you use. Me: Eh, I'll roll a Monk.
@mauricewalshe8234
@mauricewalshe8234 3 жыл бұрын
Responds in 18(00) strength :-) and of couse if your a Paladin you have your "batman" who cares your spare weapons in a golf trolley
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
"But this is a european medieval inspired campaign, so your monk has to be occidental! And no kung fu!"
@arekpetrosian4965
@arekpetrosian4965 3 жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios "You think you can handle that?"
@rjorgeish
@rjorgeish 2 жыл бұрын
@@HappyBeezerStudios "Sigh.... Crusader it is then...."
@KanisterPotasu
@KanisterPotasu 3 жыл бұрын
I remember almost dropping Kings of the Wylde on the second page because the protagonist, an experienced adventurer, stated that he hated helmets for a bunch of inane reasons.
@Drahko12
@Drahko12 Жыл бұрын
To Slowhand credit he had a big shield to protect him still. But I agree some form of head protection is important. Slowhand got hurt pretty bad in his face for not wearing a helmet
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 3 жыл бұрын
"10' pole, three flasks of oil, 10 iron spikes, a mirror, some wolfsbane, a lump of chalk, five torches, a bed roll, a weeks rations, a waterskin, a lute, my back-up two handed axe..." That was a fun and informative video; however, can I trust it? Bald Head. Black Armour. Matt is obviously a villain or at least a dodgy anti-hero.
@andrejhranac2047
@andrejhranac2047 3 жыл бұрын
A retired lieutenant from the warband of the black knight, now he is selling quality gear to adventurers. His past allegiances are not to be levied against this mans good name.
@ghandimauler
@ghandimauler 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me how you even move around in a dungeon's tight confines with a 10' pole period? Or large pole arms? (Hey, my character has a full fledged Pike!). And a lot more food and water would need allowed for unless you want to be starving and dehydrated. Then again, in the real world, not many gold coins were 1/10th of a pound. And earlier AD&D had absurbd weapon weights for swords compared to what they actually weighed. If you tried to swing a 10 or 15 lb. sword in an actual fight, you'd get tired really fast. Even the biggest swords you would normally use would be in the lower single digits in pounds. And they also had misconceptions about how limited your movement would be in something like plate armour (plate over chain); It's been shown that modern humans in those sorts of heavier armours could still vault onto a horse (or off of one) and sommersault (thought not a typical combat action.... lol). Armour is built to try NOT to prevent the soldier from doing what he needs to which requires mobility. Also, after looking into it, and looking at modern jute or hemp rope and break strengths (and working strengths), it became obvious that D&D also has rope that is way too heavy (in size and weight).
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghandimauler I was looking for some photos of fully laden "adventurers" and ended up on a website called "Go Viking Hiking". There are some great shots of what you need to survive in a Olde Worlde environment for a few days. Also, Shadiversity did a video about adventuring gear that was eye-opening. Finally Bob Worldbuilder has been doing some videos about movement in d&d versus real life. 😍
@Ocker3
@Ocker3 2 жыл бұрын
Look at those ears, he's clearly an Elf in disguise!
@godoforder1828
@godoforder1828 3 жыл бұрын
I am a simple man, i see a Raid Shadow Legends ad and i immediately skip it
@bohemondricard9091
@bohemondricard9091 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who pictures Matt in a fantasy setting as the nice twin of Trusty Patches?
@kelvinsantiago7061
@kelvinsantiago7061 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I do, I call him Well Mannered Matt.
@perrytran9504
@perrytran9504 3 жыл бұрын
New idea for my next playthrough. Thanks.
@Primalintent
@Primalintent 3 жыл бұрын
Matt Easton as a weapons merchant, but instead of him trying to sell you things or try to become your friend, he just makes 20 minute tangents on any item that you ask about or even look at too long. "Oh that? That's a kriegsmesser! Now, you may have heard that it was illegal to carry swords and this was a way to bypass it. However, we must research THE CONTEXT--" "Can..can I buy it?"
@kazikek2674
@kazikek2674 3 жыл бұрын
"Why yes you can... In the right context!"
@moumantai6337
@moumantai6337 Жыл бұрын
you pay for a sword and get a lesson for free
@KTo288
@KTo288 3 жыл бұрын
This is why in most games bags of holding, portable holes etc are such prized items.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 3 жыл бұрын
Without them playing sesdions are going to be bogged down in logistics, your economy be horrible since your loot carrying capacity will be to small. Your quest may brake because you lightened your load by selling that special item you need now.
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpettersson4919 it would probably fix the economy because you could hire a wagon team to haul it all back for a fraction of the price of a suit of mail.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zraknul Well, yes, if the GM and in computer games, the developers thought of that. Those wagon teams probably scoured real life battlefields as well and probably "assisted" not yet dead soldiers to speed things up.
@chrisgriffith9252
@chrisgriffith9252 3 жыл бұрын
Mega storage device type 3 Capacity nearly unlimited!
@silverbladeTE
@silverbladeTE 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yes! :) first item you spend serious money on in any good D&D or CRPG ;) "Boodle bags" are more important than anything except a healing potion also cause loot scavenging of the "murder hobos", AKA Adventurers, is essential lol
@MarioXcore1
@MarioXcore1 3 жыл бұрын
You know I’m running a loincloth and Zweihander 😏😏
@paulconrad6220
@paulconrad6220 3 жыл бұрын
Ye Olde Glass Cannon
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 3 жыл бұрын
If ye can't impress them with your Bihander Baffle them with your bollocks
@matthelfrich4528
@matthelfrich4528 3 жыл бұрын
Warband pvp mode eh?
@MercenaryJames
@MercenaryJames 3 жыл бұрын
I can see it now: "Hey adventurers, I'm Matt Easton of Scologladiatoria Arms & Armor Emporium. And before you browse my wares let me talk to you for a moment about penetration..."
@imugi-16
@imugi-16 3 жыл бұрын
But it all depends on the *CONTEXT*
@steveholmes11
@steveholmes11 3 жыл бұрын
@@imugi-16 Context and encumbrance.
@hrotha
@hrotha 3 жыл бұрын
"Matt Easton, from Easton Contemporary Arms"
@badlandskid
@badlandskid 3 жыл бұрын
Skal... “Actually I’m more interested in pommels.”
@thac0twenty377
@thac0twenty377 3 жыл бұрын
the elven e pat at the brothel said almost exactly the same thjng!
@ManDuderGuy
@ManDuderGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Matt is finally servicing the Shad-section of this community. Goodstuff!!
@Kanner111
@Kanner111 3 жыл бұрын
The cross pollination from all the channels is fantastic. e.g Shad going full Lindybeige, Matt going full Shad, etc etc. It makes it very easy for them all to see how to do a certain type of video if they feel the urge to, and they can just jump straight into it instead of cautiously poking around looking for a way to do it.
@MisterKisk
@MisterKisk 3 жыл бұрын
Generally if you want to "carry" a longbow, you'd unstring it, put it in a carry bag, and then carry that across your back. Does mean that you don't have it to hand, but you'd be able to use it when you've made preparations to use it. Problem is you've got a big stick on your back. Now try to crawl through a cave, or climb something. Not a fun experience. If you want a ranged weapon as an adventurer, you've got one good option; a sling.
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 3 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps a short composite bow, if you have the coin for it.
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 3 жыл бұрын
A sling or shortbow would be better, trouble with shortbows is their relative lack of power. My choice would be sling over one as well.
@JinKee
@JinKee 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a staff sling you can throw harder and you can use the staff as a polearm
@JinKee
@JinKee 3 жыл бұрын
Also, no crossbow love?
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 3 жыл бұрын
@@JinKee They're bulky, awkward to wear, and have a slow rate of fire (which isn't ideal for adventuring skirmishes).
@lukasdimmler2622
@lukasdimmler2622 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I would also consider is the ability to cross rough terrain like rivers, bogs and step inclines. Some tools like ropes and a hatchet are definitely extremely useful in that situation.
@williamt.sherman9841
@williamt.sherman9841 3 жыл бұрын
Rope! i knew i forgot somethign!
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 3 жыл бұрын
noncombat gear would be on his horse....
@appleciderhorror12
@appleciderhorror12 3 жыл бұрын
Shooter games: here take all the weapons we got! IRL: "Do I really need to be carrying all this ammo when I could be carrying snacks instead?"
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 3 жыл бұрын
@LurchTheBastard - Modern tactical vest pockets and pouches that were originally intended for ammo magazines work great for snacks, shades, lip balm, or sunscreen for land search and rescue technicians. Keep what you need often or quickly within easy reach. Dump the rest in your rucksack. Search managers: "Now add a large caliber handgun and at least 2 full magazines of spare ammo to your kit, because this search area is known to feature lions and tigers and bears." SAR Techs: "Oh, my!"
@zerentheunskilled
@zerentheunskilled 3 жыл бұрын
In tabletop games I'll often have my melee character have a sling tucked into a pocket. You only need one hand to use one of those, and you usually don't need to worry about ammo very much. A small handful of river rocks can keep you shooting for a while if you don't want to carry lead shot in the same pocket you have the sling.
@ristoravela652
@ristoravela652 3 жыл бұрын
How do you load a sling with one hand?
@gravelmonarch
@gravelmonarch 2 жыл бұрын
@@ristoravela652 Palm the string, drop the rock with forefinger and thumb. Let go of the pouch. Ez
@brotherandythesage
@brotherandythesage 3 жыл бұрын
There are multiple loads a modern warrior carries: Fighting load - Only what is worn = 37 pounds Fighting light - Worn plus the assault pack = 59 pounds Approach march - Worn plus the rucksack = 73 pounds Everything - Worn plus the rucksack and assault pack = 95 pounds These of course are averages. A much larger or much smaller warrior will carry more and less as well as what the mission is.
@JustGrowingUp84
@JustGrowingUp84 3 жыл бұрын
It's not really comparable, and weight is far from being the main issue. There are two main issues: 1. Space - the kind of equipment the modern soldiers use, and the way it's stored and distributed over the body, is quite different from what a medieval-like soldier might have to carry. 2. Combat fatigue - the kind of combat modern soldiers do tends to be far, far les tiring than someone fighting in melee, or even shooting with bows. Note that I'm talking exclusively about the fighting part - in the case of modern soldiers, this means shooting firearms, in the case of a medieval warrior, this means swinging a halberd or shooting with a bow. Obviously the weight of modern weapons + ammunition will be much more than that of medieval weapons, and that's a factor in moving around. So, just because modern soldiers can march hours on end, and then fight, with a certain load, don't assume that a medieval warrior might be able to do the same with an equally heavy load that would be appropriate to their world.
@wo3701
@wo3701 3 жыл бұрын
10:20 This is why I absolutely adore Narnia and Excalibur. HEROES WEAR HELMETS.
@evilwelshman
@evilwelshman 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of the basic, "bare minimum" set up Matt showed (brigandine, sword and dagger), one adjustment I'd make is to either strap the dagger onto a belt around the thigh or tucked in a boot, or have a second, separate dagger altogether stored in either of those places. The reason I say this is because of the obvious flaw - namely, how the sword belt has to be worn over the brigandine / armour. And as Matt pointed out, people are likely to be taking their armour off and on numerous times through the day. Which means they would also likely be needing to take their sword belt off and on that many times as well. It would awfully inconvenient to double that frequency (and thus, time) by having to take off the belt, take off the armour, then put the belt on again and vice versa every time adventurer needed to wear or take off their armour.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 жыл бұрын
It is. However, their "pockets" and other items would be all tied/looped around their belt as well. Even if you take the armor off, you will likely want to put the belt back on, anyways. That said, you would definitely want to select belt and other carry specifications to accommodate that (for example, integrated sword belts suck if you ever want to take the sword off, still want a belt, and do not have a spare/casual wear at-hand).
@inncubus666
@inncubus666 3 жыл бұрын
Slings are a really good choice of thing to pack away to have ranged abilities while having other weapons around.
@pieines7299
@pieines7299 3 жыл бұрын
A sling is not easy to use. It's even worse than bow, in term of training. You don't give them to someone that is not already quite proficient in it. If he is, he would be already a hunter or someone specialised in it.
@NMahon
@NMahon 3 жыл бұрын
@@pieines7299 easy to practice though, if you're marching a long distance you will a lot of time to practice and unlimited ammo really
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 3 жыл бұрын
@@pieines7299 You can learn to use a sling in hours, hit a man sized target at 50ft in a few days. But hitting an eye, or a songbird yes, would take years to master. But we are also talking about a professional adventurer alone or in a small group in the wilds for months at a time, plenty of time to learn and practise.
@danieltaylor5231
@danieltaylor5231 3 жыл бұрын
I really think Fandabi Dozi's historical short bow survival system should be a part of this conversation.
@dustinthewind357
@dustinthewind357 3 жыл бұрын
You, Shad and Metatron would look like medieval power Rangers with you colored brigantines.
@zhadumshasheer
@zhadumshasheer 3 жыл бұрын
6:00 Except when you are Goblin Slayer, then you never take off your armor or even helmet. Clearly, he knows what´s up and is always prepared for an ambush. :)
@carebear8762
@carebear8762 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously teasing the next HBO Series "Band of Brigandines" starring Shad, Matt, and Rafe.
@Harrowed2TheMind
@Harrowed2TheMind 3 жыл бұрын
Add Skall in a green brig and you're only missing a yellow one (more likely golden) for the full Power Brig Rangers force. Perhaps Ian Laspina aka Knyght Errant?
@carebear8762
@carebear8762 3 жыл бұрын
@@Harrowed2TheMind Nice catch, and I'll check Ian's channel as a rec!
@Stefannice
@Stefannice 3 жыл бұрын
@@Harrowed2TheMind Not yellow, but beige! I would see Lindybeige in a brigandine coloured like this.
@Harrowed2TheMind
@Harrowed2TheMind 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stefannice Genius! Loyd could indeed be the pink... I mean, beige ranger!
@afinoxi
@afinoxi 3 жыл бұрын
I think having a cutting oriented sword , an anti armour weapon and a dagger would be the optimum set up. It wouldn't encumber you and you have everything you need. If you prefer a one handed sword , you can also go with a shield for extra protection as well.
@Primalintent
@Primalintent 3 жыл бұрын
Blunt Poleaxe. Counts as a walking staff. If encumbrance is a problem you put it down and draw your sword. Alternatively one of them spikey long clubs or a mace-headed polearm.
@pieines7299
@pieines7299 3 жыл бұрын
@@Primalintent a fucking heavy walking staff, that defeat a bit the purpose. But why blunt ?
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 3 жыл бұрын
A short Machete (or cutlass) would probably be a nice middle ground weapon. A big F-off chopping weapon like an axe, a sturdy camp tool, but small and nimble enough to fight with as a slashing weapon. Dagger is great for grappling/sidearm. You still have the concern of range, a sling is a nice tool for that. Small, light, deadly in the right circumstances, and you can throw rocks for hunting small game to save your lead shot.
@afinoxi
@afinoxi 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlekong7685 oh yeah I forgot the sling. Crazy how some string and leather , hell some duct tape , can become such a lethal weapon.
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 3 жыл бұрын
@@afinoxi what's the duct tape for? I can think of better ammo.
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't talk about the buckler as an option for an archer.
@tokul76
@tokul76 3 жыл бұрын
imho buckler is for single hand weapon (short sword or dagger) set that needs more mobility. It is short range dueling weapon. Archers do not fight at close range if they don't have to and they need bigger shield to hide from other archers.
@stephena1196
@stephena1196 3 жыл бұрын
So was I. I'd always thought sword and buckler with a bow was fairly common. However, after a quick look at historical artwork I couldn't find any examples. Saw many examples of archers with swords, but none with bucklers.
@sullir9397
@sullir9397 3 жыл бұрын
I think a archer's loadout has two options: with a long sword, maybe even a war sword as Shad puts it, or with a one handed sidearm, most likely an arming sword, and a buckler. I think Matt didn't mention it cuz that's sort've getting into specifics, though I do wonder if swashbuckling gets in the way of using a longbow somehow. I definitely think Matt believes that the long sword's longer hilt, when the sword is in scabbard, gets in the way of using a shield. There are things that would be obvious to people who wore this kind of stuff often that we, who don't, are completely oblivious to.
@sullir9397
@sullir9397 3 жыл бұрын
@@tokul76 sword and buckler can be worn together on the belt while you use other weapons, they are basically a sidearm set, and archers most definitely have to be worried about having a sidearm in the chance they have to defend themselves in melee. Also, while there are definitely examples of short swords, if we are talking specifically about medieval European weapons, you kind've don't even use the term short sword. That is more or less a thing made up in D&D, and the usage became standard in popular media. The Romans for instance began to abandon the gladius for the spatha. This happened before the migration period, otherwise known as the Viking era. Since that point, pretty much everyone in Europe used full sized swords as sidearms cuz why wouldn't you.
@ctrlaltdebug
@ctrlaltdebug 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen A in the Rome Total War mod Europa Barbarorum, many archer units had small shields strapped to their arms. It's a good historically accurate mod so I'd expect the use of shields by archers to be common in the ancient world.
@MarkWildman
@MarkWildman 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the gambeson that Matt is wearing from? Company?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 3 жыл бұрын
It was tailor made many years ago.
@averylee4302
@averylee4302 3 жыл бұрын
Name of the tailor?
@vaporz109
@vaporz109 3 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria Looks great, do you know where’s the best place to get a tailored gambeson nowadays?
@dangermouse9348
@dangermouse9348 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Shadiversity's brigandine video. He bought something that looks quite similar.
@dangermouse9348
@dangermouse9348 3 жыл бұрын
@@vaporz109 Check out Shadiversity's brigandine video. He bought something that looks quite similar.
@crazypomp927
@crazypomp927 3 жыл бұрын
It would be funny if the entire Raid player base was just KZfaqrs playing for sponsorships.
@Gapeagle
@Gapeagle 3 жыл бұрын
"You can't carry a polearm and a bow" "Sorry, I already crafted a halberd-bow." "You what...?"
@MorbidEel
@MorbidEel 3 жыл бұрын
a halbow?
@Ordo1980
@Ordo1980 3 жыл бұрын
What if I have a horse? And one of those bow "sheaths" for my reflex bow what eastern light cavalry used? What I don't know is where to put the lance if I switch to the bow :D
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like one of Shad's pet projects.
@szepi79
@szepi79 3 жыл бұрын
@@MorbidEel or boerd.
@timothym9398
@timothym9398 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I remember something about spear caps to be placed on top of Japanese yumi bows. Bow becomes spear at need. (Also seems a good way to wreck your bow).
@silverbladeTE
@silverbladeTE 3 жыл бұрын
As a DM for decades, the one weapon I encouraged players to take, was a handaxe...because it was cheap and very, very *useful* Fighting, dinner, camp duties etc :) also good to see nowadays folk like yourself and Shad showing the spear is usually, the #1 weapon, not the sword for most folk and, brigandine is most likely of all armours
@Whayleejay
@Whayleejay 2 жыл бұрын
"as a" omg enough cornball
@VyseRogue13
@VyseRogue13 3 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of a D&D novel where a character left his helmet at the Inn & regretted it when attacked by an angry mob.
@vivalafiaga
@vivalafiaga 3 жыл бұрын
I love shads solution to carrying the bow, nail roped into it that hooks into a ferrule on the back
@KurNorock
@KurNorock 3 жыл бұрын
Throughout my world building as a DM, I took a look at historical weapons and armor and how long it took for them to be put on or taken off, and how comfortable it would be to wear them for extended periods of time. But then I realized that in a typical D&D world, there is FAR more danger that there was in the real medieval era. People would either need to wear armor all the time, OR be able to put it on and off extremely quickly. So I figured that "quick donning" armor technology would be a huge focus. Probably more of a focus than sheer protection ability. So would more comfort. Especially in warm or hot climates. There would have to be padding but it would have to be vented or breathable, or cooling in some way. In the real world in 1450 you didn't care much if your gambison was hot and uncomfortable, because you were probably only wearing it for a few hours at a time. But if you knew you had a 50% chance of getting attacked randomly every day as you traveled from one town to another, you are going to want to be in your armor for 10+ hours. You need to be able to do that without dying from heat stroke or becoming exhausted. So usually the armor in my campaigns aren't the same as historical medieval armor. They have similar properties, but the designs are usually different. For example, full harness that opens like a clamshell and has "quick latch" metal latches instead of leather straps and buckles that secure it. And depending on how prevalent magic is in the particular campaign, armor that is imbued with magic to make it more comfortable or easier to put on, would be available for more and sometimes less money. You can imagine that if magic is plentiful, it would be cheaper to just use magic rather than spend the time and effort coming up with and fabricating a complex and reliable metal latch.
@coldwarrior7812
@coldwarrior7812 3 жыл бұрын
Having been a career soldier and loaded like a pack mule much of the time, I often get my players to load themselves up with the stuff they want to carry. Even experienced backpackers are hard pressed to carry what they need for a two week trek and they are unarmed and unarmored. My adventurers always spend their hard earned treasure on pack animals and "waste" time learning to wrangle them properly. You cannot carry enough to be gone long by yourself. Loved the vid. Great idea.
@billberg1264
@billberg1264 3 ай бұрын
As an experienced D&D 3.5 player, I absolutely love Heward's Handy Haversack. The bag and all it's contents together magically only ever weigh 5 pounds, even when fully loaded with 120 pounds of gear. It's bigger on the inside, 12 cubic feat of storage in spite of only being the size of an average school backpack. And it costs a mere 2,000 gold pieces. It's consistently my first magic item purchase, even ahead of the little marvel that is Ring of Sustenance.
@timothym9398
@timothym9398 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite"load out" I've used at the archery range was my turkish bow (thumb draw) strapped shield in my bow hand with the bow, and a sword at my side. Could shoot almost as fast, and just as accurate as without the shield. Working on making a jazerant to go with that kit as well. Slow process though. Stupid real job having overtime eating up my crafting schedule.
@forlornfoe352
@forlornfoe352 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the word "jazerant", had not heard of that variation before [scribbles into a notebook]
@junemoeggenborg1873
@junemoeggenborg1873 2 жыл бұрын
It's really fun looking at this from different cultures! From what we know about Joseon dynasty Korea (about medieval period through late 18th century ish) the average Korean soldier was outfitted with a 1 handed sword, a small yet high powered recurve bow and case of arrows on the belt OR a polearm, and a relatively small and light shield made probably of rattan or something similar! So that bow/shield combo is the compromises for both!
@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2
@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2 3 жыл бұрын
Slings! They're easy to use, light, easily carried and ammunition lies around everywhere. It bothers me that inspite of how practical they are, I'm the only one who always has one, even when I'm not playing a ranged character.
@ctrlaltdebug
@ctrlaltdebug 3 жыл бұрын
In Baldur's Gate, I gave everyone a ranged weapon like a bow or a sling if they didn't have the ability. It's good to get a couple of shots in before the enemy closes.
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 3 жыл бұрын
I love slings in pathfinder. Especially on barbarians that add Strength to damage with 0 skills/feats involved.
@ctrlaltdebug
@ctrlaltdebug 3 жыл бұрын
My party in Fallout Tactics be like: heavy weapons guy with the Ma Deuce, everyone else carrying a couple hundred rounds of .50cal and some laser rifles.
@bentrieschmann
@bentrieschmann 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that version of Fallout.
@mikesully110
@mikesully110 3 жыл бұрын
I always found it strange that my character in Skyrim used to roam the towns, wearing heavy robes and a frightening mask that hides his entire face, and he would go around talking to and trying to adopt small children. And none of the townsfolk seemed to care lol.
@afinoxi
@afinoxi 3 жыл бұрын
You really can't escape Raid... But do you know what you can escape from ? *It's real life whilst playing Raid Shadow Legends ! With more than...*
@JinKee
@JinKee 3 жыл бұрын
WITH HUNDREDS OF UNIQUE CHAMPIONS AND GRAPHICS THAT LOOK OKAY SOMETIMES
@TSotP
@TSotP 3 жыл бұрын
In defence of RAID, they have done more for content creators on KZfaq than KZfaq has done in recent years.
@windsgrace688
@windsgrace688 3 жыл бұрын
Today I realized that my gnome artificer has a reasonably historical loadout: a musket, a short sword, a dagger, and a shield
@AM-hf9kk
@AM-hf9kk 2 жыл бұрын
I would say my Fighter-Artificer is good. Crossbow, Longsword, and Shield with Half-Plate. He also carries vials of oil and acid on his belt. If he's lucky, he'll get a shot off as he marches into melee combat with his mechanical war-dog to prevent anyone reaching the squishies.
@zoukatron
@zoukatron 3 жыл бұрын
Something I enjoyed about the depiction of Boromir in the LotR movies (especially when you take his deleted scenes, wearing full plate, into account) is that he looked like he was dressed and equipped for an "adventure" - even going so far to carrying what may have been a travel shield rather than the style of shield used by the fully armoured soldiers in Gondor.
@commander31able60
@commander31able60 3 жыл бұрын
POV: you are medieval John Wick and just came to the Sommelier.
@anthonylamonica8301
@anthonylamonica8301 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if an atlatl and throwing spears/darts would be a good option for adventuring? Consider: The atlatl itself is definitely capable of being used for melee combat as a club or a mace, or even a hook depending on how yours is shaped. Atlatls are intended to be used with one hand, meaning that in an emergency you could use it as a bludgeon with a shield in the other hand, but they are typically long enough that you could also wield them with both hands for added power in a melee. Consider further: Throwing spears and long darts can also be used in melee, even if it isn't their intended purpose. Throwing spears and long darts are intended to be expendable, which means they are reasonably inexpensive and simple in design; furthermore, since they are primarily intended as projectiles, they are light enough that you should be able to carry a few around with you at any time. Finally: When used for their intended purpose, the projectiles are devastating. A throwing spear has a fair amount of heft, and they can be launched with an atlatl to a surprising distance, with a high degree of accuracy and power in the hands of a trained wielder.
@brianhowe201
@brianhowe201 3 жыл бұрын
I believe atlatls and javelins can have larger heads than most arrows. So it would produce a more deadly wound against large animals and beasts, killing it faster than you could with a bow, but you'd be sacrificing the speed and range of the projectile. Maybe a fair tradeoff if you're hunting monsters, though.
@breembo
@breembo 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, what about things like the frankish francisca or russian Djerid throwing javelins carried in three on back quivers. Seem like these would be a good missile weapon without encumbering like a bow would. No one seems to bring these up much in fantasy for whatever reason.
@pedroivantaveraferreira3037
@pedroivantaveraferreira3037 3 жыл бұрын
Spears are already looked down by games and movies, imagine their throwning counterparts
@josephpeck8723
@josephpeck8723 3 жыл бұрын
Spears are generally underrated, I have found over the years.
@steyn1775
@steyn1775 3 жыл бұрын
I only now noticed that Mat has pointy ears Is he an secret Elf this whole time? 👀
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ianhelyar9553
@ianhelyar9553 3 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria Aha! I KNEW it!
@blairbuskirk5460
@blairbuskirk5460 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget short, horsebows can be worn in a case.
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 3 жыл бұрын
A composite shortbow is going to be pretty expensive, though, and a wooden one might not be powerful enough for an adventurer's needs.
@adenyang4398
@adenyang4398 3 жыл бұрын
@@InSanic13 Such factors were arguably not as much of a concern for cultures with a strong steppe or rich horse-archer warfare backgrounds, at least.
@avd-wd9581
@avd-wd9581 3 жыл бұрын
He literally mentioned them a couple of times
@mauricewalshe8234
@mauricewalshe8234 3 жыл бұрын
@@InSanic13 Well in many games adventuring characters are well off they are not peasants and also above average Rune Quest is a bit more realistic than DnD
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 3 жыл бұрын
​@@mauricewalshe8234 I generally see adventurers as mid-status (or at least starting out that way; obviously, it's possible for them to make it big), and mid-status soldiers in medieval Europe never seemed to really use composite bows or composite--lathed crossbows.
@CrysResan
@CrysResan 3 жыл бұрын
One interesting thing I recall reading in a novel- although I can't remember what novel it was for the life of me, was a bunch of guys at night at camp eating, but with their swords close at hand and hear some noise- sounds of battle or an injured sentry perhaps. They stopped and thought for a moment, because they were eating some kind of roasted greasy meat with their hands, to wipe their hands hurriedly on their doublets or gambesons so they would have a surer grip on their sword hilts and wouldn't have their swords slip out of their hands because of the thick slippery grease coating their fingers. I wish I could recall the novel but I can't really. I want to say either one of the Terry Goodkind sword of truth novels or Tad Williams memory, sorrow and thorn, but I can't be sure one way or the other. I just thought it was an interesting tactical dilemma in an imminent combat scenario in a fantasy novel.
@PrimordialNightmare
@PrimordialNightmare 3 жыл бұрын
The whole "you might/prbably/will take your armour off thing was generally fairly well handled in the first edition of pathfinder, the armour penalty on some Skill checks liek swimming, climbing and acrobatics definitely made me remove armour before. There's also a penalty for sleeping with meadium and heavy armour that makes your character fatigued, which is a terrible condition.
@hemaccabe4292
@hemaccabe4292 3 жыл бұрын
I found this video really useful. I'm a writer and I want my fantasy to be as realistic as possible.
@potatokilr7789
@potatokilr7789 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought about what realistic medieval fantasy characters would look like. Thanks.
@marsupiallion94
@marsupiallion94 3 жыл бұрын
Well I’m actually writing a fantasy novel set in medieval Africa, so this channel has been a great resource. Thanks a lot!
@josephpeck8723
@josephpeck8723 3 жыл бұрын
Really? That sounds very interesting, I am sure it will turn out well.
@perrytran9504
@perrytran9504 3 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend to adjust based on the different climate/setting. Historically most soldiers in Mali for example didn't wear any armor, and only the most elite "knights" got stuff like chainmail.
@corazzinatanner498
@corazzinatanner498 3 жыл бұрын
Good god, feeling the Darth Vader vibes from that gorgeous sallet.
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 3 жыл бұрын
Darth Easton.
@gregtheredneck1715
@gregtheredneck1715 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the MOST important piece of body protection, the steel codpiece! Come on Easton, how could you forget about that!
@danielbutka8854
@danielbutka8854 3 жыл бұрын
It was interesting to see the shield sling. In D&D 5e, it takes 1 action (6 seconds) to equip/unequip a shield in your hand, so I'm surprised that there actually is a means to do this and that seems like a reasonable amount of time to do it.
@daaaah_whoosh
@daaaah_whoosh 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I've heard of it I like the idea of the medieval 'lance', or group of 4 horsemen who work together. It seems like a more realistic version of the 'party' you find in RPGs. Everyone can ride a horse, everyone's got some amount of armor and some type of melee weapon, at least two people have crossbows. If I wanted to make an RPG I'd probably want to make character creation more like that: pick the general 'role' your party is filling (light cavalry, heavy cavalry, horse archers, foot archers, foot infantry, bodyguards, etc), then everyone gets a basic 'loadout' based on that role, and can customize it a bit to help diversify the party's capabilities.
@zwinmar21
@zwinmar21 3 жыл бұрын
and the problem with that in the games I played was the mount would inevitably be killed, run off, or stolen..every.single.time.
@TheSabaton1
@TheSabaton1 3 жыл бұрын
@@zwinmar21 well that's the risk of adventuring so you better risk your horse and life for some fine coin 😉
@patrickdusablon2789
@patrickdusablon2789 3 жыл бұрын
A lance was less a group of cavalry, as the basic unit around a single man-at-arms. One man-at-arms/knight, one squire, an archer or two, a page/valet/servant, a handful of horses, and a cart/pack animals to schlep their stuff.
@AM-hf9kk
@AM-hf9kk 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickdusablon2789 I think either of these would be an amazing adventuring party. I love the idea of a "fire team" with a well-defined relationship and goal, but NO ONE I've played with wants to coordinate character creation to that degree. It seems every TTRPG player wants that extra-special unique build that struggles to find a reason to cooperate with a Party; the Edgy Rogue, the Self-Righteous Paladin, the Bad Attitude Fighter, the Gender Unclear Sorcerer, the Autistic Bard-barian, etc. I get enough inter-personal drama in real life, my fantasy is to have a team that works well together and gets along without trying to stab each other in the back or deal with deep personal issues.
@patrickdusablon2789
@patrickdusablon2789 2 жыл бұрын
@@AM-hf9kk depending on the outfit you're dealing with, you could be dealing with a band of misfits wrapped around a man-at-arms rather than a well-disciplined band of professional soldiers. To make it work in a TTRPG, there might be a need to re-jig things, and put things in context. Maybe the man-at-arms of the lance is the fighter/paladin, but the lance is really a vehicle for getting a mage/sorcerer to the front. Your rogue/rangers are the lance's archers, with a fighter, paladin or cleric as the squire? Just spitballing here.
@twogoblinstall894
@twogoblinstall894 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel man. Really Love how you can enjoy and be well versed in both the historically accurate stuff AND more fantasy ended things as well! Cheers!
@JinKee
@JinKee 3 жыл бұрын
Skallagrim: what do you mean "put it in my inventory?"
3 жыл бұрын
There are less cumbersome ranged weapons, like for example the sling.
@wiskadjak
@wiskadjak 3 жыл бұрын
Good weapon if you're well practiced. Add a pouch of lead sling bullets & you're good to go.
@Specter_1125
@Specter_1125 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t a sling lose most of it effectiveness if the opponent was wearing any measure of armor?
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 3 жыл бұрын
@@Specter_1125 There's a good bit of concussive force involved, so no.
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 3 жыл бұрын
@@Specter_1125 Even with armour a sling could break ribs, rupture organs causing internal bleeding, and penetrate cloth armour or wicker shields.
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 3 жыл бұрын
@@Specter_1125 the same can be said of swords.
@scottmacgregor3444
@scottmacgregor3444 3 жыл бұрын
My general rule is: -one 2 handed weapon that's relatively easy to carry, or hang off a mount. -one one handed weapon that can hang off a belt, like a mall sword, mace, or hand axe. -one or two light weapons like a large dagger or a couple of throwing knives. -One other smallish thing, like a buckler, lantern, or hip pouch. If you want a large shield, you trade away the big two handed weapon, or your medium weapon.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion everyone should have a ranged weapon. A sling is excellent when it is to complicated to bring a bow.
@lssnow8195
@lssnow8195 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpettersson4919 You would need an bow or some other ranged weapon if you are adventuring without a horse, otherwise you would literally just get kited by anyone with an ranged weapon if they just run faster than you lol.
@keithallardice6139
@keithallardice6139 3 жыл бұрын
First time I've ever seen a video pointing out this sort of thing - nice one, Matt!! Take care and stay safe
@phillip0537
@phillip0537 3 жыл бұрын
This was a really fun video, thank you! And, as usual, your Brigandine is just a great looking piece of armor.
@Hushashabega
@Hushashabega 3 жыл бұрын
When designing my RPG system, an effective encumbrance system was a must to get right. The key is to make sure the system is simple enough for players and GMs to not feel like it's too much of a hassle to track, or else they'll just ignore it. FWIW, watching lots of scholagladiatoria videos greatly informed the weapon system, including considerations of wearability for weapons (swords for example are not at all stand-out weapons from a pure combat effectiveness perspective, but have traits related to their ease of wearing that encourage their use).
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 жыл бұрын
Currently working on one myself. Care to elaborate on how you handled it?
@Hushashabega
@Hushashabega 3 жыл бұрын
@@nevisysbryd7450 Instead of tracking discrete weight totals (lbs, kg, etc) heavy and/or cumbersome items are assigned a load value, which is roughly equal to the item's weight in stone for compact dead-weight, or more for awkward items like polearms, ladders, or several glass vials. You can't carry more load of gear than your strength score (the system is based on old-school D&D so strength ranges from 3 to 18, with 9 to 12 being average.) In addition to load value one is limited by storage space, which is limited to whatever you can carry (a 2-handed weapon or a 1-handed polearm and shield for example), up to 3 holstered items (swords, maces, hand axes, or other side arms) one of which must be a dagger or smaller, what you can wear (clothes, armor, rings, etc), up to 4 very small items in your pockets, a coin purse, and up to 8 different items of cargo (or stacks of the same item) in one's backpack. Many items have no load value, but are still limited you this storage space, or if enough copies of the item are carried it will begin to have a load value. If you need more cargo space you can get sacks which add cargo space at the expense of adding to load carried (small sacks add one cargo slot and are worth 1 load and large sacks add 4 slots and are 3 load). It seems complex when I write it out like that, but when you design a character sheet around it to only include inventory space in accordance with storage space it ends up being pretty workable in play.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hushashabega Ah. Yeah, dense information such as that can be conveyed much more easily via a GUI (which is what the character sheet would be). Thanks!
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 3 жыл бұрын
If you want a 'realistic' encumbrance system you could base it on current military thinking. Soldiers today basically have four 'levels' of gear, the first is what is worn, the second is what is carried into combat, the third is the 'patrol kit' or 'day bag' that is usually taken for extended patrols and is dropped before fighting, and the forth is the 'marching kit', which contains stuff like spare clothes, tents/shelter, etc. and is worn as little as possible, and preferably carried by vehicle (or if you are talking medieval, horse) The beauty of this system is all 4 levels are roughly the same - about 15kg per level for Western armies. So Level 1 is 15kg of armour/protective gear, 2 is 15kg of weapons and ammo, 3 is 15kg patrol kit (extra ammo, thermal clothes, 1 days rations and water, spade, etc) and 4 is 15kg marching kit which is the extra rations, cooking equipment, shelter etc. So just for a hash up of a basic system for medieval game, lets forget about the marching kit and assume this is carried by horse (it usually was back then). Since 15kg is the base amount, for an RPG lets say 10+strength kg per level assuming a game with strength values from 1 to 10 - if the values are higher just adjust in proportion, so strength score from 1 to 100 would be divided by ten. That means a weakling character can carry 10kg of armour, 10kg of weapons, and 10kg in his pack (plus whatever is on his horse) - the pack is NOT accessible in any form of combat, it can be used to replenish arrows/bolts/magic herbs/broken weapons AFTER the fight, but not during it. A max strength guy can carry 20kg of armour, 20kg of weapons, and 20kg in the pack. The beauty of a system like this is it stops players cheesing encumbrance systems by having a ridiculously strong character with plenty of encumbrance points to spare carry ALL the party's essential/noncombat gear and ALL the gold and loot, meaning your weakling 1 strength character has enough carry capacity to wield huge polearms and wear full plate....
@bentrieschmann
@bentrieschmann 3 жыл бұрын
Throwing spears in a holster like set up. Also, as others point in out, slings and a few shot would be relatively easy to carry.
@dillonvandergriff4124
@dillonvandergriff4124 3 жыл бұрын
Or a nice handful of plumbata!
@poireauetsespnjs5668
@poireauetsespnjs5668 3 жыл бұрын
Very instructive vidéo, I have shared it all over my RPG forum
@Kevin_Forbes
@Kevin_Forbes 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the part of choosing a bow or polearm, and I can definitely see the value of a sling! Great video
@corybourn8947
@corybourn8947 3 жыл бұрын
Elvan chainmail to keep the weight down and don’t forget that bag of holding
@arthurdowney2846
@arthurdowney2846 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo I hope one of my "Captain Context" comments was the inspiration to that user name!
@racanum379
@racanum379 4 ай бұрын
Super interesting/informative video. This kind of thing always crosses my mind when playing games where you literally pull weapons from thin air I always try to think of a realistic loadout in that you would have to actually carry these things and be able to alternate
@Ruwalk
@Ruwalk 3 жыл бұрын
Will try and keep these in mind as I keep writing my book. Thanks for the fun stuff as always be sure to keep it up.
@trsarmiento
@trsarmiento 2 жыл бұрын
Have a read at “The King’s Cavalier” by Samuel Shellabarger. There is a passage in it when a traveling party is ambushed on the road. But since they not complete morons and have someone scouting ahead, they have time to retreat and do exactly that, unpack the armor they are not wearing while on traveling horses (palfreys, I think they call them), have the servants help them put on their armor (and also arm themselves) and mount the heavy coursers they are, again, smart enough not to wear down by mounting them while traveling. I always liked that passage. The book is good too.
@ShivaX51
@ShivaX51 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for reference to the backpacks that everyone seems to have that also don't exist even in the concept art. In fact everyone pretends they don't exist at all until the character suddenly needs something from it, then of course they were wearing the whole time.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 3 жыл бұрын
The very expensive invisibility enchanted backpack that let you adventure in style!
@diashiblade2843
@diashiblade2843 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpettersson4919 is the backpack armored
@neilyb5012
@neilyb5012 3 жыл бұрын
Bag of holding works a treat let one character have one problem solved but limit the stuff they can pull from it or they'll try and pull out a live horse had the horse suffocate in the bag taught a lesson that day
@RestlessHarp
@RestlessHarp Жыл бұрын
This is hugely helpful, thank you!
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 3 жыл бұрын
I love these kinds of videos, perfect after a hard day!
@ThatsLeoYKnow
@ThatsLeoYKnow 3 жыл бұрын
Really fun video Matt! I'd love to see the actual additional "living and travelling" kit that you'd possibly need to. You mentioned an eating knife for example. Would you carry a bed roll? A pouch or pack with food and water? Would you just drink from the well and accept dysentery etc. How'd you carry that with the fighting equpiment?
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 жыл бұрын
He sort of covered that in a much older video on carrying and encumbrance. Whereas this one focused on armament, the other talked about portable shelter, cooking supplies, and how all of that depends on the specific of the adventure in question.
@ThatsLeoYKnow
@ThatsLeoYKnow 3 жыл бұрын
@@nevisysbryd7450 Yeah, I also remember a video like that but I can't find it. And it would be nice to see the combination of gear needed.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatsLeoYKnow Yeah, the combination is not something that has been covered very well on youtube, since you need to balance all of those together. Here is Matt's earlier video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otKAdNh43py8poU.html
@OnlyKaerius
@OnlyKaerius 3 жыл бұрын
You could wear a crossbow slung across your back, also you can have a sling hanging from your belt. That's usually my fighter type backup ranged weapon: sling.
@Kaiserland111
@Kaiserland111 3 жыл бұрын
Over the past 4 years I've created my own roleplaying system with 6 of my friends that is a hybrid of D&D 5e and the Edge for the Empire Star Wars roleplaying system. Having watched your channel for years, I have incorporated many of your realistic ideas and logical constraints, such as including penalties to mobility, perception checks, etc. from wearing armor or too much equipment. These help keep the game founded in reality and encourage creative player interactions. Thank you for being a resource, Matt!
@markbreidenbaugh6033
@markbreidenbaugh6033 3 жыл бұрын
I love this kind of video and can't wait for more about you're rpg experience. I would love a video talking about you're thought process on dealing with larger monsters, the weapons and armor that might actually be more effective.
@HeikkiHallamaa
@HeikkiHallamaa 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of monsters you'd find in dungeons would probably be around the size of a large dog or so. It might make sense to focus particularly on leg armor maybe?
@neilyb5012
@neilyb5012 3 жыл бұрын
Heikki Hallamaa yeah spike on knee cap works a treat
@randomnobodovsky3692
@randomnobodovsky3692 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of creature size: monsters that do create their own environment would have their tunnels made in a size that is convenient for them. Why does it seem that tiny creatures dig tunnels so convenient for large invaders?
@jannemerilainen6988
@jannemerilainen6988 2 жыл бұрын
​@@randomnobodovsky3692 Late post, but I'll make a stretch of a guess: either the DM forgot that detail OR those tunnels used to be a lair for _something as big._
@randomnobodovsky3692
@randomnobodovsky3692 2 жыл бұрын
@@jannemerilainen6988 I always thought it's part of the genre. Just like ventilation one comfortably can crawl in (in different genre).
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, countrary to Shadeversity's opinion I do believe Orcs would employ Chariot Cavalry. - Individual horse does not have to suffer under a heavier than human Orc. - Orcs as realistic Barbarians would love skirmish warfare - something chariots excelled at during bronze age. - Orcs should be able to draw much stronger bows or throw javelins further than humans due to higher strength and longer arms. Good for a skirmish chariot warfare. - Chariots require a good deal of money and resources - perfect for a chieftain or high ranking clan warriors, playing into the Celtic/Germanic tribe-clan structure of society. - Chariots require raw craftsmanship that Orcs are notorious for in several fantasy settings.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 3 жыл бұрын
Very much NOT how Tolkien described Orks.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 3 жыл бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen I was in mind of DnD like orcs. Tolkien's orcs are goblin rubbish.
@atfrench22
@atfrench22 2 жыл бұрын
This seems to have taken great effort. Thanks for taking the time! As for the context I am great with historic or personal empathetic. I am still glad you use your imagination and add complexities to your videos by making alternative, while within the rules of reality, scenarios ae creative endeavors. So extra Thanks for you effort and sharing your knowledge.
@Xalerdane
@Xalerdane Жыл бұрын
I find myself associating full plate with the powered armor in _Fallout,_ except instead of requiring a constant supply of miniature nuclear reactors to keep it running, you need to have a massive Fortitude stat in order to tank the constant Stamina Drain. The point is that there’s a timer that starts counting down the minute you start using either of them, you can’t just put them on stop thinking about them.
@visualartsbyjr2464
@visualartsbyjr2464 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe, happens that I’m writing a short story for my creative writing class. Main character is wearing leather armour while using an arming sword and a dagger (character lost the helm). Already had my instructor ask me “How do you know so much about this?” Channels like yours have given me informative choices when writing or drawing. So thanks! Hehe
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria 3 жыл бұрын
Consider something other than leather armour :-)
@visualartsbyjr2464
@visualartsbyjr2464 3 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria not biker jacket leather but hardened vegitan leather breastplate, but I do know where you’re coming from 😊
@brianhowe201
@brianhowe201 3 жыл бұрын
@@visualartsbyjr2464 Actually, better than using tanned leather would be boiled rawhide or half-tanned leather(meaning just the surface is tanned, but not the core). The tanning process softens the material, so if you want maximum toughness/hardness for protection, you are better off using leather pieces that haven't been tanned, which is known as rawhide. Half tanned leather might be used instead of pure boiled rawhide because it takes a protective coating better. It's hard to get oils and paints to stick to rawhide's surface.
@NMahon
@NMahon 3 жыл бұрын
@@visualartsbyjr2464 I'm not sure if hardened leather breastplates were really a thing. Consider a leather brigandine over a gambeson
@lachirtel1
@lachirtel1 3 жыл бұрын
@@NMahon That's actually what the word Cuirass meant originally. The original item was of boiled or hardened leather (there are multiple versions of the process, involving some kind of glue or oil) that later was made in steel. There are just relatively few survivals in museums and such (because the material is biodegradable). If you look into it, a few have been found in waterlogged situations. books.google.com/books/about/Leather_in_Warfare.html?id=XyLBAQAACAAJ
@WJS774
@WJS774 3 жыл бұрын
26:00 I'm reminded how in Mount and Blade, if you have a shield equipped but you're _not using it_ it will protect against arrow fire _from behind._
@chadherbert18
@chadherbert18 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! A great practical look at equipment... in context! :)
@exotericidymnic3530
@exotericidymnic3530 3 жыл бұрын
I contend that the most important piece of equipment for anyone who plans to travel on foot for an extended period of time is a walking stick, which of course can be made as a piece of dual purpose gear in the form of a quarterstaff. Also, in the question of missile weapons, a sling is dramatically underrated as, it beats out all other missile weapons as it concerns size and weight constraints (and cost) and is quite effective against most monsters that an adventurer is likely to face as they arent typically covered in stiff plates of armor.
@taylor_green_9
@taylor_green_9 3 жыл бұрын
There's no real reason why that quarterstaff can't be a spear, as long as it's legal. Otherwise, you're quite right
@exotericidymnic3530
@exotericidymnic3530 3 жыл бұрын
@@taylor_green_9 as it turns out there is a reason: the ideal walking stick is one with an iron gripping spike on one end (this spike would not be long enough to make an effective spear point) and either nothing, or a leather pad on the other for surfaces the spike is not good for.
@cliffordcanaday7010
@cliffordcanaday7010 3 жыл бұрын
This is something that often bothers me in book, games, and movies. For example video games and D&D has your character walking around in full armor with a dozen weapons and movies neglect helmets and only have the characters using swords all the time. I think this is much more realistic, and would like to see this thought process implemented more...maybe if I'm ever a published author 😅
@williamt.sherman9841
@williamt.sherman9841 3 жыл бұрын
Lord of the Rings (in the books) is one of the few examples that accurately displays concerns of weight and the balance of speed vs protection. The characters set out lightly equipped- Aragorn with his Sword, Boromir carried a sword, a shield and his horn, Legolas had a bow and arrows and also a long knife, Gimli had a two handed Axe and whore alone a mail shirt since dwarves make light of burdens, the hobbits had their barrow blades (Frodo had Sting and his Mithril coat which was hidden) Gandalf had his staff and Glamdring. (and they still needed a baggage pony to carry provisions) When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli arrived at Edoras they were all given Mail shirts and helmets (except Gimli who had a mail coat already) in addition to shields. Lord of the Rings is the prototype for all "party systems" so common to D&D and modern RPGs have gotten away from the core idea- each character is specialized for specific roles (expect hobbits they are just dead weight) One thing in Fantasy type stories is that characters can be equipped at different points in the story with different weapons, the most important thing is that they have the skill to use the tools they can get access to. Also having squires would be a good idea if you ever want someone who is a full time warrior to have. Gates of Fire did a good job of showing how the relationship between a battle squire and a warrior- plus that lets the squire carry ranged weapons to support the melee warrior.
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 3 жыл бұрын
Movies tend to disregard the helmets due to the medium. It's the same reason super-heroes are constantly removing their masks. They want to show the actors' facial expressions. And, for fantasy settings, also to make them stand out more, be easier to identify. What bothers me more is when they give the characters long hair or, in the cases where they do have a helmet, things jutting out... That's, like, no, you don't want things that your opponent can grab and pull on, or something that deflects a weapon into you, rather than away from you.
@Pentagathusosaurus
@Pentagathusosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend The Red Knight by Miles Cameron. Follows a mercenary company in a fantasy setting complete with squires, valets and camp followers of various kinds.
@StergiosMekras
@StergiosMekras 3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think that the members of the Community of the Sword are getting ready to be isekai'd. ...I want in.
@josephpeck8723
@josephpeck8723 3 жыл бұрын
Do you really?
@StergiosMekras
@StergiosMekras 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephpeck8723 Depends on the context, really. Some worlds are better than others.
@josephpeck8723
@josephpeck8723 3 жыл бұрын
@@StergiosMekras Indeed.
@not-a-theist8251
@not-a-theist8251 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Looking forward to the RPG with you and the gang
@MichaelHaneline
@MichaelHaneline 3 жыл бұрын
While I'm interested in taking a look if its a tabletop RPG, based on Matt's apparent priorities I have concerns. I've taken some of the advice that Matt has given in multiple videos into account in my own tabletop game design, but overall the main priority of a game should be to have fun, and a lot of his complaints about what is realistic historically would be unrealistic to incorporate into a tabletop game and still keep it fun for most people, I believe. A video game would be a different matter, since the computer can take all these things into account without hurting gameplay more easily, and I'd love to see Matt as a consultant for such a game.
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