Medieval war lance: Can I make and successfully use a heavy medieval lance?

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Modern History TV

4 жыл бұрын

Jason attempts to make a heavy medieval lance out of ash and use it on horseback.
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@Wilson-md4bv
@Wilson-md4bv 4 жыл бұрын
Delivered *Couched Lance Damage!* 79% Speed Bonus Delivered 132 Damage Points You got 36 Experience Points
@gioojisba2758
@gioojisba2758 4 жыл бұрын
Sarranid footman got oofed by player
@petru9380
@petru9380 4 жыл бұрын
it's almost harvesting season
@osergergfd2501
@osergergfd2501 4 жыл бұрын
Milord
@marekznikad3912
@marekznikad3912 4 жыл бұрын
I WILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL
@osergergfd2501
@osergergfd2501 4 жыл бұрын
LESS TALKIN' MORE RAIDING
@TheAlwaysPrepared
@TheAlwaysPrepared 4 жыл бұрын
I love his face when he hits stuff from horseback. At first he seems like a nice guy teaching stuff and then you watch the slow motion and see his murder face. Brilliant!
@Colonel_Overkill
@Colonel_Overkill 4 жыл бұрын
here is a life lesson for you, *EVERYONE* has a murder face, be they pacifist or murderer and everything in between. The only difference is what it takes to make them show the murder face and how much damage is done while showing it.
@TheAlwaysPrepared
@TheAlwaysPrepared 2 жыл бұрын
@@Colonel_Overkill Nice theory you have there. Did you know that the most dead combatans found on medieval battlefields were killed from behind via strike to the head, from above? They broke formation and fleed in panic after getting charged by knights (heavy cavalery), just to get slaughtered on the retreat. They were peasents pressed to fight, getting attacked by professional killers - fearless, trained from childhood and armed to the teeth. Not everyone has a murderface - most people do not.
@shinobi-no-bueno
@shinobi-no-bueno 2 жыл бұрын
@17:02 👌🤣🤙
@shinobi-no-bueno
@shinobi-no-bueno 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAlwaysPrepared care to cite some sources? Personally I don't think that "peasants" were particularly not-tough seeing as they toiled and labored much more than the average person now and the toughest men I've ever met (even when I was an Infantryman) were corn-fed, farmer strong, modern-day peasants. So I'll again ask, where can I read about these scardey cats who were mowed down from behind while they ran away pissing themselves?
@TheAlwaysPrepared
@TheAlwaysPrepared 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinobi-no-bueno Your instincts are correct sir. The professionalisation of swiss peasant militias into the legendary mercenaries that were able to withstand heavy cavalary charges ended the undisputed reign of the mounted knight on the battlefield. The Infantry revolution in the late middle age/early renaissance is a good starting point, if you want to read up on the topic. The history of the swiss mercenaries and german landsknechts are a cool part of it too. Sources are numerous throughout the internet and a respectable amount of sholars have written about it. Google and youtube are your friend.
@allysmith2284
@allysmith2284 4 жыл бұрын
“If you want to kill somebody, use an ash lance” I’m taking notes 🤔
@Someone-hs5yb
@Someone-hs5yb 4 жыл бұрын
Usa an axe
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
From horseback? Yes, but you have to get close!
@Someone-hs5yb
@Someone-hs5yb 4 жыл бұрын
@@ModernKnight Yes but a Lance is useless after a charge so better have both.
@_DarkEmperor
@_DarkEmperor 4 жыл бұрын
@@ModernKnight OK, I will the lawyer of that killed guy.
@crabmaster3338
@crabmaster3338 2 жыл бұрын
@@Someone-hs5yb A sidearm is always carried by shock cavalry.
@my_granny
@my_granny 4 жыл бұрын
You: Some fun educational content Talos: WANT TO FIGHT!! WANT TO DESTROY OUR ENEMIES!!!
@xdazamx
@xdazamx 4 жыл бұрын
Talos: DEUS VULT KINGSLEY!!! COMMMONNNN!
@WalrusWinking
@WalrusWinking 4 жыл бұрын
"Goodboy, talos."
@bladeRoller
@bladeRoller 4 жыл бұрын
Talo
@patuccaneven8027
@patuccaneven8027 4 жыл бұрын
Talos is a good hors he may joine the imperium legion
@jdzencelowcz
@jdzencelowcz 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, the horse is like LESS TALKY MORE JOUSTY.
@andrewgillis3073
@andrewgillis3073 3 жыл бұрын
It's mentioned in period documents that jousting horses were generally high strung, but enjoyed jousting. I've seen modern jousting horses that are the same way. I've never found any reference to how horses feel about actual warfare. At a joust, the lances would be provided by who ever was hosting the joust (to keep it equal). In warfare, the knight would be expected to have his own lances in his baggage. However, spears, pole-arms, and arrows were supplied to the soldiers. I've seen lances that have flutes running along the length, but I suspect these are not war lances. Anyone have an idea?
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 3 жыл бұрын
I knew it would be Talos just from that comment xD
@blackdeath4eternity
@blackdeath4eternity 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgillis3073 the flutes would reduce weight but make it weaker, but sometimes having a lance hit a farther distance away but break is preferred to getting 2-4 feet closer so its possible that both could have, the winged hussars had hollowed lances so...
@andrewgillis3073
@andrewgillis3073 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackdeath4eternity period paintings show war lances on the ground broken, so you may be right. I’ve always wondered what the knights did with their lances once they stuck someone…
@alistairsamson299
@alistairsamson299 4 жыл бұрын
The Horse is terrifying, Talos seems to really enjoy smashing things.
@shawnhtpc2271
@shawnhtpc2271 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly he looks bored with standing around. Scraping the ground with his front hoof is a signal that he wants to run.
@lwolfstar7618
@lwolfstar7618 4 жыл бұрын
@@shawnhtpc2271 yup, hes bored. If you want terrifying imagine that many knew to kick and bite anyone that wasn't their mount and their groom, others were trained to capriole, ballotade and other moves now considered haute ecole.
@hansyolo8277
@hansyolo8277 4 жыл бұрын
Just like his namesake
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas 4 жыл бұрын
It is just a horse.
@kevbee8325
@kevbee8325 4 жыл бұрын
Ninjaananas A horse is an animal (and a beautiful one at that), and animals have behavioural patterns and feelings also.
@Desi-qw9fc
@Desi-qw9fc 4 жыл бұрын
"Lances and spears have a sharp end and a blunt end." *scribbling furiously*
@BoopSnoot
@BoopSnoot 4 жыл бұрын
17:40 doesn't make sense though. A lance is not a projectile by itself, but anchored to the rider who is anchored to the horse. The weight of the lance is thus insignificant compared to the total weight of the package that is imparting momentum. What COULD matter is how much bend the lance has to it, as the stiffer it is, the more abruptly it will deliver the force whereas a flexible one will act like a spring to deliver it over a longer period of time thus softening the impact.
@jonathanchark5291
@jonathanchark5291 3 жыл бұрын
That's partially correct. However, weight also plays an important part in the whole system. Eventually, the horse and rider will become injured and/or fatigued. Also, heavier things hit harder on average.
@andymcevoy3109
@andymcevoy3109 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoopSnoot throw a stone at someone and then throw a brick at them and ask what hurts more You let go of the Lance on impact
@BoopSnoot
@BoopSnoot 2 жыл бұрын
@@andymcevoy3109 now attach either the stone or the brick to the front of a bus, and run the bus into them. that's going to hurt more. Horse and rider combined are 1000lbs or so.
@mandowarrior123
@mandowarrior123 3 ай бұрын
​@@BoopSnoot your body is springy and can only put in so much rigid force. Also you either stop dead or pass through and the weight of the lance is essentially the main factor in that.
@kryniov111
@kryniov111 3 жыл бұрын
In Polish history we have a period when cavarly was using 20 feet lances. At begining those was made by spiting wood in two parts and hollow it. Those two parts are glued together after dried. Wood loose weight by moisture from inside faster that way. In next years technique and material was different. Husarl lances was made of aspen wood, it was hollowed in the center from the tip to the knob in order to reduce the weight. The hussar's lance was the longest polearm ever used by any cavalry. It was 4.5-5.5 m long (sometimes even 6.2 m). A 2.5 m long pennant was attached to it. Such dimensions are masked the posture of the hussar during the charge (the flowing material was then touching the horse's ears). After a lance broke in enemy formation material was still atached to unwieldy metal spike in someones body. This works like a web with harpoon. Five original Hussar lanced have survived to our times: three at the Museum in Kórnik, one at the District Museum in Tarnów (with the original pennant) and one at the Wawel armory.
@woulg
@woulg Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this :)
@halucca22
@halucca22 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that is fascinating. I wish I’d know about this when I visited Krakow, I would have loved to see that lance! Z Bogem!
@quincymcburgerking4407
@quincymcburgerking4407 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Talos got credit for his great performance!
@steamboatmodel
@steamboatmodel 4 жыл бұрын
Talos look like he was enjoying doing it.
@InnannasRainbow
@InnannasRainbow 4 жыл бұрын
@@steamboatmodel When he was pawing at the ground, I could imagine him saying, "Come on, hoomin, I want to run!"
@tristankeech4070
@tristankeech4070 4 жыл бұрын
is that how horses clap?
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 4 жыл бұрын
@@tristankeech4070 That's a horse's way to tell their rider that they want to run. Think of it as their equivalent to a human tapping their toe with their arms crossed.
@ccityplanner1217
@ccityplanner1217 3 жыл бұрын
It's a custom of this channel that any horses which appear are named at the top of the credits.
@MegaKossak
@MegaKossak 4 жыл бұрын
Thalos beating his hoof on the ground was very cinematic.
@Adventure_fuel
@Adventure_fuel 4 жыл бұрын
MegaKossak cinematic is not real
@Khorney
@Khorney 4 жыл бұрын
17:37 Lol, "cmon lets goooo, stop talking! hit him again!"
@adamant4107
@adamant4107 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yeah! Talos is awesome!
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 жыл бұрын
Khorney “Standing around is boring!”
@motherofmany_9277
@motherofmany_9277 4 жыл бұрын
I have two young sons interested in the medieval world, and have been using this channel to make what they read "come to life". Even a longer form video like this held their attention to the end. Well done, to the whole team involved in creating this series! ETA: During the use of the hand plane, my six year old said "Wow! I thought those were extinct!" He now wants to investigate the use of hand tools. Excellent!
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 жыл бұрын
MotherOfMany _ An Aussie named Neil Paskin has a woodworking and smithing (and a bit of crafting in general) called “Pask Makes”, where he uses a mix of hand tools and power tools (he even sells T-shirts and sweaters with a picture of a hand plane and the text “Hand tools are cool”.
@motherofmany_9277
@motherofmany_9277 4 жыл бұрын
@@ragnkja I checked out the channel based on your recommendation and subscribed. Thanks!
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 жыл бұрын
MotherOfMany _ The things he’s able to do with scrapwood (admittedly high-quality scraps, but still scraps) are amazing.
@sparsh415
@sparsh415 4 жыл бұрын
If you have 2 young sons tell them Jason is also the co-owner of Games company Rebellion and created the games Sniper Elite and Alien vs Predator.This will make the channel even spicier for them.
@mattwilcoxuk
@mattwilcoxuk 4 жыл бұрын
Hand tool woodwork? Check out Paul Sellers here on KZfaq. :)
@Kurtiboy24
@Kurtiboy24 4 жыл бұрын
talos is like me born in the wrong century goethe
@StinkyGreenBud
@StinkyGreenBud 4 жыл бұрын
You seriously would want to born back in those times? More than likely you would have been a peasant which would have sucked.
@Kurtiboy24
@Kurtiboy24 4 жыл бұрын
@@StinkyGreenBud Most of our ancestors were peasants, warriors etc.. basically wh 40 k its like we are in a civ game
@unravel523
@unravel523 4 жыл бұрын
no one seems to notice that the wonderful horse got a real meaningful name, from a seriously famous writer- and it´s a Very well thought out name apparently ;) Love the episodes!
@Kurtiboy24
@Kurtiboy24 4 жыл бұрын
@Apollo Sun *smacks lips* What a shame.
@coltonblack5141
@coltonblack5141 4 жыл бұрын
I love explorational history, find out how things could have been done, simply by trying it yourself, if anything it helps you learn something new
@muzerhythm2242
@muzerhythm2242 4 жыл бұрын
Same! 😁 Especially the shows see on building what was used (few I watched were Pharoah's Chariots, Noah's Ark, Ect.)
@crimson7676
@crimson7676 4 жыл бұрын
I carve stone using primative tools to test how my Norse ancestors did their boat art rock carvings those thousands of years ago.
@toraguchitoraguchi9154
@toraguchitoraguchi9154 4 жыл бұрын
Quite useless unless he trains 6 hours a days a week. It seems "too heavy" because he's not a professional knight!
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
I train 2 hours a day on average, and ride for about 10 hours a week. It was not too heavy, it heavier than I am used to. Medieval knights did not train that often, surprisingly, according to the records we have.
@toraguchitoraguchi9154
@toraguchitoraguchi9154 4 жыл бұрын
@@ModernKnight Modern Man can't imagine....climbing flights of stairs a few dozen times a day , walking uphill for miles, often carrying heavy loads, walking miles in general, drawing and carrying buckets of water every morning from the well for the whole household, etc, things a page did as routine....chopping firewood, carrying the whole lot, you get the picture....😁
@VoxFelis
@VoxFelis 4 жыл бұрын
In relation to your "Favourite lance" comment. When I did archery, I had my favourite bow. I have my favourite rugby boots, and I even have my favourite fork haha I don't doubt medieval people had their favourite objects too!
@boserzipfelmann4629
@boserzipfelmann4629 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the difference i that lances are usually more expendable. Not because they were cheap or easy to make, but just because they tend to break in battle. So I guess you could rather compare a favourite lance to something along the lines of a favourite arrow, a favourite nail, fuse, bike helmet or light bulb.
@miguelsuarez-solis5027
@miguelsuarez-solis5027 4 жыл бұрын
I want to agree with you, but I would imagine lances broke regularly... I see having a favorite Lance less like a favorite bow and more like a favorite arrow, which is possible but less likely
@hashtag415
@hashtag415 4 жыл бұрын
"What about pointed sticks?" *Monty Python*
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 4 жыл бұрын
Shut up!
@hashtag415
@hashtag415 4 жыл бұрын
@@eldorados_lost_searcher Bananas?
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 4 жыл бұрын
@@hashtag415 Best solution is to drop a five ton weight on your assailant, then eat the banana. Thus disarming him.
@hashtag415
@hashtag415 4 жыл бұрын
@@eldorados_lost_searcher Or release the tiger.
@iododendron3416
@iododendron3416 4 жыл бұрын
16!
@bartolomeonew
@bartolomeonew 4 жыл бұрын
Well, Polish so called "Winged Hussars" used lances about 20 feet (over 6m) long :) But they were drilled inside to reduce weight.
@AVKnecht
@AVKnecht 3 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought when Mr. Kingsley talked about the length of lances and their disappearance in the 15th century.
@angeloromualdez9957
@angeloromualdez9957 4 жыл бұрын
"you're alright, boy.." "Goo' boy.." Mashing L3
@Mikeztarp
@Mikeztarp 4 жыл бұрын
0:05 That entrance. That smile. Only 5 seconds and I'm already smiling from ear to ear. :D PS: And Talos gets the first mention in the credits, classy!
@bassemb
@bassemb 4 жыл бұрын
Jason really is likeable.
@maryannweldin4633
@maryannweldin4633 Жыл бұрын
Woodworking is the most relaxing work. And that fantastic smell that the wood give off is amazing.
@snoweefrost4412
@snoweefrost4412 4 жыл бұрын
Carpentry was my great grandfathers trade, my grandfather's hobby, my fathers hobby, and my hobby. Your technique with the plane and shaping is FINE. Afterall you're making a weapon not an art piece. Utility over perfection.
@EldarKinSlayer
@EldarKinSlayer 4 жыл бұрын
If you look into the physics of a good lance strike from a heavy warhorse you are talking near a ton moving at quite a good turn of speed focused on a very small tip and you have a huge amount of focused energy. It then becomes easy to see how incredibly deadly a Mounted Man at Arms really was.
@N4RCissus
@N4RCissus 4 жыл бұрын
Talos just looks like a warhorse. And he's not afraid of anything. He wants to keep going. He's an amazing animal.
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
He's superb to ride too.
@AssassinofHighgarden
@AssassinofHighgarden 4 жыл бұрын
You know, it's nice to see Talos having just as much fun as Jason seems to be. These videos are just as delightful as they are informative
@waydomriver
@waydomriver 4 жыл бұрын
You need a spoke plane , which was used in those times . A two handed blade ,with a slight curve specifically for spokes on a wheel or any round timber . Hope this helps
@thelittlestmig3394
@thelittlestmig3394 3 жыл бұрын
This and split length of wood instead of sawed one if that is available. Having the grain run perfectly straight makes it stronger, you can remove more stuff and make it a lot lighter while maintaining stiffness and strength. I'm pretty sure they used splitting to manufacture war lances and spears and what you have in them old times. Bit wasteful on material but splitting is fast, suitable for high volume production and damn good technique for manufacturing damn fine shafts. Ye, I am a carpenter.
@gnarshread
@gnarshread 4 жыл бұрын
Just an idea! I worked in the wooden yacht building business for a few years and a lance looks a lot like a spar to me. A lot of wooden spar making techniques have not changed for hundreds of years. Maybe talk to a few boat builders. As your in the UK maybe talk to Butler and Co. In Cornwall. I would be surprised if you did not learn some very old techniques.
@victorwaddell6530
@victorwaddell6530 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea ! Maybe someone who makes long oars can be of help also . The ancient makers of oars for rowed vessels such as Greek Triremes and Norse Longships must have been great woodcrafters in their era . To my knowledge there are no historical recreators of ancient Greek ships , but I've seen recreators of Norse vessels on the internet . Also there are recreators of American history who build Native American Teepees , the traditional lumber used to erect teepees is Lodgepole Pine , native to the Western United States and Canada . In my area , South Carolina , North Carolina , and Georgia , we have a tall and straight species of pine called Loblolly , once used as masts and spars on sailing vessels . Tall pines are also grown in Maine and were highly valued in the marine industry .
@Badnercalabrese
@Badnercalabrese 4 жыл бұрын
@@victorwaddell6530 recreations of Greek and Roman triremes have been done... Dont have a source off hand but a simple Google search will demonstrate.
@victorwaddell6530
@victorwaddell6530 4 жыл бұрын
@@Badnercalabrese Thanks , Ill give a look .
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 4 жыл бұрын
@@victorwaddell6530 The jason voyage by tim severin is one of the better recreation of a ancient Greek ships voyage.
@victorwaddell6530
@victorwaddell6530 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperFunkmachine Thanks !
@lauro973
@lauro973 2 жыл бұрын
"Take a lance that is as heavy as you can manage". Makes a lot of sense as that's also my mantra when selecting a bowling ball to bowl with.
@XX-es8vg
@XX-es8vg 2 ай бұрын
I wish The History Channel would air shows like this instead of shows about some pawn shop guys searching for alien ghosts on a ranch or whatever bullcrap they're showing now.
@jf_knows_nothing
@jf_knows_nothing 28 күн бұрын
Don’t forget looking in a hole for something that doesn’t exist
@gansetsukon
@gansetsukon 3 жыл бұрын
imagine being hit by a pointy stick at full speed it must have been such a terrifying thing back then, no wonder they were often used as shock troops in wars
@StreakedSilver
@StreakedSilver 4 жыл бұрын
Talos looks SO DAMN HAPPY! X3 It made my heart well to see him enjoying it.
@MrSven3000
@MrSven3000 4 жыл бұрын
and i believe your feeling of running that lance like a train. saladdin is said to have commented "a frank on his horse can run down the walls of babylon" once. (they called all europeans "franks" back than, the crusades are known as "frankish invasions")
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 жыл бұрын
MrSven3000 Frankish (medieval French) was the, well, _Lingua Franca_ of the Knights Templar if I’m not mistaken.
@lmonk9517
@lmonk9517 4 жыл бұрын
@V R Richard the Lionheart was basically 100% french and only visited England a handful of times. Though a lot of this soldiers were from England and a the vast majority of the funding from the crusades was also from England as he didn't want to weaken his french holdings.
@strikemasterice2004
@strikemasterice2004 4 жыл бұрын
I believe that Byzantine princess and historian Anna Komnenos said something similar.
@MrPancake777
@MrPancake777 4 жыл бұрын
V R Richard was more a Frenchman than an Englishman and also so not surprising really as French was much popular and of more importance back then compared to English. But English has basically taken over the world now though.
@duchessskye4072
@duchessskye4072 4 жыл бұрын
The lance rest I imagine helps immensly with the weight management
@chrisgibson5267
@chrisgibson5267 4 жыл бұрын
I read an explanation of the technique many years ago. The lance is only lowered at the last minute before the impact and at this point it engaged with the rest and the lance is ready to cause your opponent a significant emotional event. None of the galloping across the field with lowered Lances we saw in films.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 4 жыл бұрын
@Sandcastle • There are some very late and very specific types of lance rests/cradles that were used exclusively for tournament in things like the gestech, but the lance rest itself was developed a lot earlier for and had great impact (pun intended) on the battlefield, potentially even driving some very specific changes in armor design as a result of the more potent lance strikes.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 4 жыл бұрын
@Sandcastle • Many surviving lance rests are hinged or simply pinned in place for that very reason, so they can be easily removed or at least flipped up out of the way.
@arnekoets3085
@arnekoets3085 2 жыл бұрын
Having used arrets extensively, the arret makes the tip of the lance flex, not a lot, but enough to just miss, especially when you need to hit visionslits it will become less accurate. You only really lay it on the in the 5 or so 100th of a second of hitting. Also it will tire your arm by constricting blood flow if you would lay it in. Now you do set the lance there, but you don't rest it, subtle distinction. Also fencing with lamces is a real thing, and if you point from the get go you will lose that dramatically much more
@shadoube_likes_games1879
@shadoube_likes_games1879 4 жыл бұрын
Watching the slow motion of Talos is breathtaking. Such a beautiful animal. That massive horse with that heavy Lance is a dang train!
@iamcarbonandotherbits.8039
@iamcarbonandotherbits.8039 4 жыл бұрын
That was one hell of a strike on the eye slit, ruin anyone's day that would.
@corriblehunt4554
@corriblehunt4554 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see anything you're doing when you replay the strike in slow motion. I can't take my eyes off Talos. Amazing
@ajuc005
@ajuc005 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact - hussars lances (called kopia) were drilled empty inside to cut the weight. And to further help with holding it the end was tied to the saddle at the end using a leather strap. So that the hussar could use just 1 hand as a pivot point, and most of the weight was supported by the saddle.
@carrieseymour5197
@carrieseymour5197 4 жыл бұрын
I must confess, in the slow motion bits, I found myself watching Talos instead of the lance. He's a good boy. I've held a heavy war lance, at a museum, and when you see a person who knows how to use it and has the strength and training, at a distance, on film, it looks fairly manageable. And then you go and hold one yourself and it's all gritting teeth and straining backwards and quick take the picture now before I drop it. It's a bloody heavy bit of wood.
@renardrougesombre
@renardrougesombre 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, you're a knight and a gentleman. Thanks for teaching us about this.
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@skyborne80
@skyborne80 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see some of the work "behind the scenes" so to speak, in the crafting of the lance. It was so cute when Talos wanted to do more! He really want's to be a KZfaq star!
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@fredpacimusic
@fredpacimusic 4 жыл бұрын
Your whole damn series is cathartic, sir! Always very interesting and enjoyable to watch👌
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
thanks. They're fun to make too.
@lavillablanca
@lavillablanca 4 жыл бұрын
I believe this is the first video I have seen Talos’ eyes as his mane was tucked under one side of the bridle. I bet Talos could see where he was going better, too. This is a quality video channel. Thank you.
@papaspongetv2352
@papaspongetv2352 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE how excited he gets over this stuff.
@ZedF86
@ZedF86 4 жыл бұрын
The emoji face with your comment has got me in stitches.
@ccityplanner1217
@ccityplanner1217 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZedF86 : It's something to do with Roblox I believe.
@NemeanLion-
@NemeanLion- 4 жыл бұрын
That was a hell of a first shot. Right in the eye socket.
@GoodandBasic
@GoodandBasic 4 жыл бұрын
Would you be interested in doing a collaborative video? I love your work, particularly your emphasis on the practical aspects of living in the medieval period. I am actually drying some large rushes right now to make rush lights later. Perhaps we could do a two part series on some practical aspect of medieval life or something of the kind. In any case, thank you for posting such excellent material. JB
@waydomriver
@waydomriver 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea but he's already done rush lights , check out his previous vlogs
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 4 жыл бұрын
Ha, nice you saw the post.
@BennyLlama39
@BennyLlama39 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like making a lance from some kinds of wood can be a real pain in the ash. 😀
@scobra5941
@scobra5941 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget your coat on the way out...
@BarrengerFynar
@BarrengerFynar Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the tree isn't too happy about it either
@dowehavetoputournames2420
@dowehavetoputournames2420 4 жыл бұрын
Yay Talos!!
@SeadartVSG
@SeadartVSG 4 жыл бұрын
If you make more lances, you might want to invest in a good draw knife, a spoke shave and a rasp - much better tools for rounding wood. Also the people who made lances probably used some form of shaving horse or coopers bench to clamp the wood down, by holding a foot pedal down with a foot and releasing to slide the stave along as you shape it. There are a lot of good videos on you tube for how to make one. I have a lot of bow making videos that show how bowyers rounded longbows.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 жыл бұрын
SeadartVSG A shaving horse allows you to reposition the workpiece a lot more quickly than most modern clamps do, since all you need to do to release it is relax your legs.
@SmevMev
@SmevMev 4 жыл бұрын
The advantage of using a plane though is that it very accurately controls the depth of cut, so it's trivial to take off small, consistent quantities of wood, which would take a lot more concentration and skill to do with a drawknife. A drawknife also limits cutting to about an arm's length at a time, whereas you can walk a plane along the whole Lance in one go, if you need to. I think the plane is a good choice, but bearing in mind how long a lance is and so how long any undulations could be, I think he could do with a longer plane.
@SeadartVSG
@SeadartVSG 4 жыл бұрын
A spokeshave also has a well defined cutting surface set up like a plane, but is designed to work on curved surfaces, and you simply move with your back facing the point of the wood, just as you would with a plane facing the tip; the arms length argument doesn't apply. The draw knife lets you remove wood quickly to get the rounded shape. Planes are meant for "planar" surfaces and cutting a small ridge, instead of a wider flat surface causes the plane blade to come out of alignment with hard woods like ash . You can get around this with a very large expensive and well made plane. A spokeshave costs about $30, and you can make one for much less.
@SmevMev
@SmevMev 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeadartVSG Fair enough, a drawknife would handle the rough rounding perfectly well and I wouldn't argue that a spokeshave wouldn't do the job either, but a plane will naturally flatten unevenness in the surface, unlike the shave and there are whole families of plane designed for mouldings and working curved surfaces, so the lance's roundness is no problem at all - there're a lot of different ways to approach the problem. If you're jousting though, I think the one consideration you don't have to worry about is cost, since it's never been a cheap pursuit.
@SeadartVSG
@SeadartVSG 4 жыл бұрын
@vin 950 I agree with comments about the drawknife. When I started out I had to be extremely careful not to pull up too much wood. Having used one on lots of items now, it's becoming more automatic about controlling the blade, I don't think I've made a fatal mistake for a long time, and it's very hard to make a mistake with the spokeshave. I've started shaping bows with a swedish hand axe to rough out the form, and with practice they become very efficient. I suspect the lance makers of the middle ages probably could pretty well shape a lance with a good sharp hand axe - and a pair of pinch calipers. I'm pretty sure large cross sections of "milled wood" could be made in the middle ages by axes, they also had saw pits. I would think a lance made out of ash would start out being close to the diameter that is used.
@cia9315
@cia9315 4 жыл бұрын
Heres some info for the name talos: Talos was a giant atomaton made out of bronze to protect europa in Crete from pirates and invaders. He circled the island's shores three times daily. Thats what Wikipedia says. So heres some more: Talos also means sun. He was built by greek god hephaestus. Man, what a great name to give to your horse!!
@martialme84
@martialme84 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video and other videos like it! Very few of us who are interested in this also have the option to try it for ourselves. You are doing an awful lot of interested people a really solid favour. I struggle for words to describe how much i respect that. Thank you very much!
@adampilarski7083
@adampilarski7083 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best channel on KZfaq. I’m just enthralled
@raftermanDK
@raftermanDK 2 жыл бұрын
"Big stick energy" and "long/thick piece of ash" 🤣 History, you dirty!
@MrTigroz
@MrTigroz 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine watching someone getting hit in the head and seeing their beak get slapped all the way around like a cartoon character.
@Gunslinger1875
@Gunslinger1875 4 жыл бұрын
Talos, such a beautiful horse. I would feel invincible riding him into battle. Ah, but to dream, the lance on the other hand seem huge many years of training. Great video!
@prussia1557
@prussia1557 4 жыл бұрын
17:33 Talos wishes for WAR!
@w.f.f.2023
@w.f.f.2023 4 жыл бұрын
Jason, I applaud that you ask yourself and the audience many hypothetical questions throughout your presentations. It really gets the mind geared to thinking in a medieval mindset so one might better live this history. Cheers!
@YamiKisara
@YamiKisara 4 жыл бұрын
Talos is becomming a more and more gorgeous stud! Loved how much fun he had with practive. Cheers!
@trottheblackdog
@trottheblackdog 4 жыл бұрын
Talos: LESS TALK MORE RUN
@dasnurk
@dasnurk 4 жыл бұрын
Those were unearthly hits! I can see them being used on the battlefield, although reserved for the more experience knights and riders. I cannot imagine the wear and tear this kind of weapons had on the warriors of old.
@seymourfields3613
@seymourfields3613 2 ай бұрын
I imagine, for knights with money, they could have found a lance they liked, and had more specially made to be very similar. A woodworker, given a little bit of extra time, could plane and sand replicas fairly easily. Balance could be within a quarter of an inch this way. With a little bit of weight added to the back, or making the metallic war tip slightly heavier, the balance point could be adjusted to be practically identical.
@kaimanchester8062
@kaimanchester8062 2 жыл бұрын
I always go right to the power tools when making anything so I was looking at that 12 foot piece of ash thinking that looks like a power tool job right there, but actually this has opened my eyes to being able to do with traditional hand tools. This is great.
@CanalTremocos
@CanalTremocos 4 жыл бұрын
Talos looks so chubby and well-behaved but give him a taste of action and he wants *moar*.
@lewisthurston9785
@lewisthurston9785 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see lances getting some love!! They always get forgotten about compared to swords even though they were probably the primary weapon of the knight
@andrewgranger3370
@andrewgranger3370 4 жыл бұрын
Spears and polearms, including lances were the primary weapons of both foot troops and cavalry, the sword was just a side arm and status symbol for the most part. Even Samuri used bows and spears in combat as the many weapons until the sword became a symbol if their class. Evem then they were trained just as much in spear use and archery as in sword use.
@benayakeenanhutagalung9798
@benayakeenanhutagalung9798 4 жыл бұрын
The Ancient Roman Empire though.. they use short gladius sword instead of pilla spear. Make me wonder why. And what about maces, axes and flail?
@russianseamonster
@russianseamonster 4 жыл бұрын
@@benayakeenanhutagalung9798 Roman spears were absolutely common and vital to Roman tactics and techniques. Not sure where you got the idea that they didn't use them. Romans layered different types of soldiers with different types of weapons to create a battle line that was much harder to penetrate.
@Frurin
@Frurin Жыл бұрын
A millionaire with calouses. After all these years watching Sir Jason and I am still amazed of how down to earth he is.
@delcat8168
@delcat8168 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video :-) ... The tapering of the lance is very much in line with the taper of a Warbow limb, which makes sense as both need to have the stress distributed evenly (to maximise the strength) without excessive tip mass. Obviously the lance is a scaled up version. A warbow tip is typically 1/2" diameter (where it enters the horn nock) and the working limb length is about 3.5' so if we scale that up by a factor of 3.4 to get 12' it would give a tip diameter of 1.7" which seems reasonable
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
that's an interesting thought.
@galahaddayne
@galahaddayne 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the heavy lance, was waiting for this video and here it is!
@thegnoo
@thegnoo 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the world had more people like you. Thank you so much for this content!
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
our pleasure.
@usseg
@usseg 2 жыл бұрын
Talos, "Less talky, more go-ie!"
@roballister5269
@roballister5269 2 жыл бұрын
11:42 oh trust me Jason I'd care! Just as I care every time a Heavy Cavalry lancer companion of mine dies in Bannerlord and whelp, there goes another Vlandian Heavy Knight Cavalry Lance lol... Leave no Lance behind!!
@eugenio5774
@eugenio5774 4 жыл бұрын
talos is a really beautiful creature, so strong and muscular and elegant!
@crestfallensunbro6001
@crestfallensunbro6001 4 жыл бұрын
And enthusiastic!
@trojanette8345
@trojanette8345 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic demonstration. 3 cheers for Talos. Good to see him outdoors.
@EricaNernie
@EricaNernie Жыл бұрын
Love Talos! What a horse!
@anjairis
@anjairis 4 жыл бұрын
Talos is impressive :D and a funny chap. Sniffing the weird stick on your foot. C'mon let's do it again! Knock it down woo! Chaaaaarge!!
@evezina96
@evezina96 4 жыл бұрын
The part about different lances having slight variations in feeling relates very well to how modern musicians get used to perform on many different instruments (especially guitarists and drummer), which is as valuable a skill as the rest of the musical know-how because it allows to adapt to circumstances.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 жыл бұрын
Etienne Vezina Not to mention pianists and organists, who generally have to use whatever instrument is in the place they’re performing.
@evezina96
@evezina96 4 жыл бұрын
@@ragnkja Yeah, it gets even worst because of tuning issues on pianos!
@robbikebob
@robbikebob 4 жыл бұрын
I should imagine getting hit square with that it wouldn't matter how good your armour was, it would simply break your neck!
@lavagolem77
@lavagolem77 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a huge nerd watching your videos, I love it!!
@Goshin65
@Goshin65 3 жыл бұрын
Marvelous. Taking note that lances of different woods handle and strike quite differently is a detail few would consider. I like that you're including Talos training in your vids.... horses are individuals every bit as much as people, and have their own notions. I noticed Talos sniffing the lance-butt curiously before your run, reminded me of my old Palomino quarter horse and any new accessory I brought around.
@muchentuchen6592
@muchentuchen6592 4 жыл бұрын
Heavy lance otherwise known as the "skull breaker " a common term used by the saracens.
@carlrichardson5347
@carlrichardson5347 4 жыл бұрын
I like history about medieval times. i have watched many of your videos i like the ones about food from old English cooking it looks great.
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 2 жыл бұрын
Talos really likes that, It goes to show how much the horses are individuals and how their personal attitude affects learning, Would leaning forward into the thrust and stirrups transfer more energy into the lance or would that just make it harder on you, presumably you have to work out what your body's capabilities are and don't want to transfer so much of Talos' momentum through you that you damage something.
@hansyolo8277
@hansyolo8277 3 жыл бұрын
Talos: "Father! I crave violence!"
@George10001
@George10001 4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Everything seems so well thought out.
@GoodandBasic
@GoodandBasic 4 жыл бұрын
Learning is indeed about doing. Great video! I've been curious about lance making for a long time. JB
@Xorobabel
@Xorobabel 3 жыл бұрын
I am a handtool woodworker, and your technique is good. That's the wonderful thing about a traditional hand plane -- the tool will talk to you as you work with it. For a #4 like yours, some prefer 3 fingers on the tote with the index finger extended, but that is a matter of personal preference.
@josejavietsarabiabarros9207
@josejavietsarabiabarros9207 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and you put loads of hard and meticulous work to prepare each video. Thank you sir
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@VeritechGirl
@VeritechGirl 4 жыл бұрын
And so! Without further gilding the lily and with no more ado, I give to you the Seeker of Serenity, the Protector of Italian Virginity, the Enforcer of Our Lord God! The One the Only - - - Sirrrrr Ullllrich von Liechtenstein!!! 😝❤️🤓
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Good movie!
@VeritechGirl
@VeritechGirl 4 жыл бұрын
@Modern History TV Believe it or not, I had just watched Knights Tale a day before this upload 😁
@andrewgranger3370
@andrewgranger3370 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one thinking that. Great quote, great movie and great youtube name Veritech Girl. Loved this video. Super informative.
@VeritechGirl
@VeritechGirl 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Granger 😁=)
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 4 жыл бұрын
13:38 Talos investigating a familiar shape, but with a new smell.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I'm glad to see that his training has made him significantly less excitable than he was when he started out. Hopefully he got extra carrots in addition to top billing.
@BobbyLCollins
@BobbyLCollins 4 жыл бұрын
In Howard Pyle's King Arthur books, the knights shatter their lances approx. 66% of the time (shatter on the 1st and 2nd passes, then dismount their opponent on the 3rd pass). As a kid (and even today), I wondered who was crafting all those lances. Carpenters? Builders? Bowyers? General laborers? The knights themselves?
@anyascelticcreations
@anyascelticcreations 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the weight of Talos transfers into the impact as well. Since he has quite a bit more weight than Warlord, I would imagine it would feel very different to joust on him. Though, I'm sure you've done a fair amount of practice on Talos, too. Lovely video. Thank you for sharing. 🙏
@DarkValorWolf
@DarkValorWolf 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Talos is in the credits
@Medieval_Mayhem
@Medieval_Mayhem 4 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos. Great work. You have inspired me to start my own medieval channel.
@kayosiiii
@kayosiiii 4 жыл бұрын
With regards to tools, originally it would have been done with a drawknife and a shave horse. A plane does work, but it does take more time. A shave horse would make for an interesting project in an of itself.
@museaengeschiedenisfestiva5212
@museaengeschiedenisfestiva5212 Жыл бұрын
I love that you are learning by doing!
@RaExpIn
@RaExpIn 4 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the force you have to push against, when you hit an enemy body in armor at full speed... Both of you, which means twice the speed!
@dr.paulwilliam7447
@dr.paulwilliam7447 4 жыл бұрын
Knights avoided fighting against plated infantry (knights) for that very reason. They went for archers, peasant mobs and side or backcharges to regular infantry in chain armour max. No need to waste your life when you could have done a thousand things more helpful.
@ThaliaVitalis
@ThaliaVitalis 4 жыл бұрын
So happy there is a new video!🤩 I've only recently discovered your awesome channel, but have watched ALL the videos by now.😁 Your enthusiasm is infectious😉
@ModernKnight
@ModernKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@llabronco
@llabronco 3 жыл бұрын
After watching many of your lancing videos, I have to say that visually, this 12 foot lance very clearly delivers the strongest, most lethal-appearing hit on the target. I would not want to be on the wrong end of that lance!
@lukeorlando4814
@lukeorlando4814 3 жыл бұрын
That helmet may well stop the lance piercing your face as it repels the point. But the helmet is not going to stop your neck from snapping as your head rotates 1440 degrees before you fall to the ground from the impact
@airnt
@airnt 4 жыл бұрын
commendable lance technique with such a heavy example! I think ou might want to thin it down a little more, to accomodate the weight of the head. in San Romano they have the lances tapered at the back to accept the graper and they even hold it BEHIND the arrêt, curiously enough. they are however all holding the lances very much in the last 16 inches. the trumpet shaped taper of the butt means the graper is very solidly wedged on. original warlances are scarse, but a few survive, mostly later. there is one 5 ffullered one in germany, but it is weird then there is one in vienna, that, i think, is 3780 mm long (article is a bit confusing which lance they mean) and 14 cm circumference. (so about 45 mm diametre?) there are later lances in the dutch collection of the NMM and those are longer still. so 12 foot is definitely not too long. I still think most lances were made of individual trees, rather than lumber, but those are extremely hard to source these days. that would allow you to have a thinner lance for the same strength that would not split unreliably (ash is very splitty) and thereby save some weight. for reference, the PINE jousting lances we used at st Wendel were up to 78 mm thick (but varied more around 58 mm) tapering from there and 340 cm long (so 11 and a bit foot) i have one left which is 2700 grams pretty exactly. so your lance (without a head) is about 50% more. I would start thinking it is too much around 3 kg... i guess... if you wanted to fence with it? My garrocha is 12 foot ash and that is much more doable, but still quite heavy. I wonder if the san romano ones are meant to be ash, or not, maybe even the poplar you mention, as that is an italian source, where they mention that.
4 жыл бұрын
Talos is a great name for a horse (very worthy).
@MrCharlesT
@MrCharlesT 4 жыл бұрын
omg, that horse is beautiful!
@antoinettehatchell2052
@antoinettehatchell2052 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! Love learning all this! Talos is definitely into it! Great job guys!! It’s fun to see the training of the horses progress! I really admire your “roll up the sleeves and figure out how things got done. 💞💞💞👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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