The Old World Battle Report! Skaven VS Night Goblins!

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The Old World Battle Report! Skaven VS Night Goblins!

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#skaven #orcsandgoblins #warhammerfantasybattle
We're back again with another Old World battle report! This time we tried out one of the Legacy armies to see how it would match up to one of the supported armies! I ran a Night Goblin list with plenty of Squigs for variety, and Tim brought his sneaky Skaven...although I'm not sure how sneaky a Doomwheel can be! We had a lot of fun and hopefully understood the updated rules better this time around as well!
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@stefan-georgfuchs9618 6 ай бұрын

Man this was the most natural Skaven Player I came across so far on Utube. ! Great Fun, guys.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

HHaha cheers.

@cjanquart 6 ай бұрын

:::hides:: That's gonna be a thing, isn't it? ::laughter::

@caverramos7581 6 ай бұрын

I love that the legacy army is in square bases and the mainstream army in round bases 😂😂😂😂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hahhaha yep

@The_Captain40k 6 ай бұрын

That fanatics bomb was mental, really need to add some into my night goblins army.

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

They were a nightmare to fight

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Cheers.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yes you do. For sure.

@skarnak1 6 ай бұрын

you don't take a panic test when engaged in hand to hand combat. So the stormvermin didn't have to panic due to the damage done by the fanatics. Page 160 of the rulebook.

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

Knew there was something to keep them there…. Right next time I will need you to with me 😂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yep I knew there was somthing.

@richardwales9674 6 ай бұрын

Great game. Those Gloomspite Gitz models make collecting a Night Goblin army hard to resist. Pity more aren't available.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Dam straight. It’s a great army.

@cjanquart 6 ай бұрын

The cymbal goblin was neat, but my favorites were the squid herder with the snotling tied on a spear and the goblin bagpiper standing on one leg (because some sculptor was most likely a Ian Anderson/Jethro Tull fan).

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hahhaah great sculpts one and all.

@skarnak1 6 ай бұрын

don't forget for the fellblade, you have to test every strategy phase. If you roll a 1, you take a wound.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yep we forgot.

@arrowackskorsou8194 6 ай бұрын

23 dead rats! That is what you call pest control! 😮

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

HahahHa yeeessssss

@chrislee7704 6 ай бұрын

Really enjoyed this battle report! Great chat and fun, nicely painted units and good table and we clipped together to make it move along quick. Make more!!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yea sir.

@Jimmynuts1 6 ай бұрын

The fanatics rule is NUTSSSS, its a death wave if you have multiple units stacked behind each other =3D6 STR5 AP3 hits, no one can survive that, Night gobbo armies are a real threat as you decide when to release the fanatics - its no longer auto released

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Ye there very scary. If they work lol.

@cjanquart 6 ай бұрын

That's pretty nasty since you can't bait them out with a cheap unit.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

@@cjanquart and that’s why lol. What good are they if people just throw a crap unit at them and all get released.

@jasonburrows3006 Ай бұрын

I think they worked better when you could bait them, it added to the randomness otherwise everyone will just use the same tactics as used in this battle and target the strongest enemy unit.

@DeathJester40k 4 ай бұрын

Skaven and a high quality battle report, name a more iconic duo.

@MediocreHobbies 4 ай бұрын

HahahHa

@JohnnyTightIips 6 ай бұрын

Would love to see some Lizardmen fighting their old enemies Chaos :D

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

That would be an epic game.

@bryanquick3349 6 ай бұрын

haha all those funny noises, glad to see other people do this when they play

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Of course lol

@jmc7034 6 ай бұрын

You call about a Skaven player being in touch with his army 😮😂😂😂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hahhaha

@WessexWarGaming 6 ай бұрын

Yes! Keep the old world content coming

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

We will as long as you guys want it

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yes sir.

@James__V 6 ай бұрын

Ouch! What a game! Really thought it was going to go one way and by the swing of a chain (or 6) it went very much the other! Love seeing gobbos vs. Skaven, you just know chaos will ensue! Also, I have to comment on your idea of a slightly more sensible side of your deployment containing as it did giant spitting squigs! 😂😂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yup. It for sure went my way.

@Oldhammer57 6 ай бұрын

Thanks again for a brilliant battle report, 2024 is going to be so much 'Old World', fun.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Oh yes it will.

@Agozz87 6 ай бұрын

Great to see night gobbos in action! Any chance of seeing some painting tutorial on them? 😬

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yes 100%

@GodrockTadaka 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the vid! Ratling Guns are quick to fire, don’t take -1 hit on move.

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

I will remember next time

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Good to know.

@daviddalglish9430 6 ай бұрын

I love it when fanatics work well but I also love it when they go spectacularly wrong 😂. Loving the old world battle reports, is it even a proper battle if you don't make your own sound effects 😁

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

We shall for sure do more don’t worry about that.

@LSOP- 6 ай бұрын

"on paper I can't see anyting like that" says man who clearly didn't read the skaven list.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hhwhwhwhhwhwhw

@skarnak1 6 ай бұрын

the doomwheel has 2 stomp attacks, so it might have just destroyed the unit completely with those. I'm pretty sure it always flees and pursues it's random movement, which is 3d6. But I could be wrong.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Oh good to know.

@The0Bored0Network 6 ай бұрын

Great game. Tim taught me how to use my skaven, so it's nice to see him use them again. I still remember the day you got those squigs from forgeworld, like a kid in a candy shop 😂

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

😮😮😮… who is this …????

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

HahahHa your dam rite.

@christophebarbera6909 6 ай бұрын

hail to the skaven! Great game

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

All power to the Great Horner Rat

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Cheers pal.

@TheVigilante2000 6 ай бұрын

However, during the Command sub-phase of their turn, the wielder of the Fellblade must roll a D6. On a roll of 1, they lose a single Wound.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yep for sure. We forgot.

@JoseAntonioCasasnovas 6 ай бұрын

Fanatics are insane in this edition. My god, poor vermin xD

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hahhahaha yep

@aidenwasson7489 6 ай бұрын

something to note with the Zaapp attacks from the doom wheel is that they always scatter even if you roll the hit on the scatter dice

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Good to know

@editor2766 6 ай бұрын

Hilarious game. FANATICS!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

There always great.

@Willabrador 6 ай бұрын

34:35 that's why there's a bandage!!! I have two of these old metal guys. So much character. I am keen to get all the latest gloomspire models too and go crazy squig heavy :)

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Oh yes for sure. It’s. Just a amaizng range.

@skarnak1 6 ай бұрын

skaven need maximum rank bonus for as long as possible. True some other armies now also have warband, but it was always a Skaven rule. Always try to have and keep maximum rank bonus for as long as possible when playing Skaven.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Oh yes for sure.

@scroggie_mini_painting3983 6 ай бұрын

Cracking game all! Gobbos for the win! They are such a fun faction. Some cracking looking squigs in that army

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Cheers pal.

@ulimurch8781 6 ай бұрын

Aren't you able to field only 1 Doomdiver per 1000 Points? Great batrep, btw.. 😊

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yuuup oops.

@TheRobstien 6 ай бұрын

Think that first fall back by the skaven used both dice for total instead of one and went through the unit causing a panic?

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Oh perhaps.

@Jason-man-in-black 6 ай бұрын

Very fun battle report, congratulations on the win Andy, as a blood bowl player it’s always fun to see rats getting walloped wherever their beady little faces appear 🤣

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

Hey!!! 😂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

HahahHa dam straight.

@jAMESgULTER 6 ай бұрын

Great video, loved the night goblins. I really enjoyed your death korps painting video you did. Id love it if you did a night goblins one!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

I 100% will be doing tones of night goblin videos

@andrewt8058 6 ай бұрын

Such a fun battle report, im really tempted to get into the old word with a night goblin army

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

There a great army to use.

@KiwiOddity 6 ай бұрын

Can I ask, what is your colour scheme for your squigs, they look really good.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

This is actually quite a sad question. I got i from and amazing youtuber called robpaints he did an amazing job on the squigs as park of an underworld gang video. Unfortunate this creator has sadly passed away since then. His videos are still up so do check it out.

@DenSluge 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the high quality battle report, I really enjoyed most of it. But there was something that caught my attention a few too many times to be comfortable watching without commenting. Oh man, I want to be nice, I really do. But this has to be mentioned. You sir (goblin player) have the patience of a saint. It's so annoying playing against someone who tries to measure wrong intentionally, ignoring the scatter direction and angle the measurement to a more favourable position all while being vague and unclear then just giggle when he get's caught brushing it off. I would not play against someone like that myself. We are all different, and to each their own, but I and that Skaven player would not get along for more than a few minutes at best. I try to not be mean and hard on the guy, because he clearly had a good time and was cheerful and happy throughout. I just can't handle these subtle cheating, and sometimes blatently cheating. "It doesn't scatter"... It's your sesponsibility to know your own units and it's also your responsibility to follow the rules of the game.

@MediocreHobbies 3 ай бұрын

Cheers pal. It’s all good he is just competitive it’s his nature I’m used to it.

@MarkAndTerra 6 ай бұрын

Although you Rally in the Strategy Phase, the fleeing unit doesn't move until Compulsory (after Charges) so a fleeing unit will absolutely block a Charge if it is in front.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

It does indeed.

@skeletonfish110 6 ай бұрын

Please hold the camera steady, getting serious vertigo with it swooping around everywhere

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

It’s not as easy as it looks lol.

@philiphale2785 6 ай бұрын

Superb game- really enjoyed it, thanks!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Glad to hear.

@takatyr1924 5 ай бұрын

Can the Fanatics be released from a unit engaged in Close Combat? Thought they had to be unengaged to release.

@MediocreHobbies 5 ай бұрын

Nope they are released at the start of any start of turn sub phase. And there is no restrictions other than that.

@richardwales9674 6 ай бұрын

Another question: Fanatics there used to be a rule where if you charged a unit with Fanatics in it you had the option of holding - was it 7" away? - and the Fanatics would be released and if you carried on the charged you got automatically dinged. I liked the way you held them for the level of destruction they caused but now you have inflicted that mental scar I'm curious to the options you and your opponent have. Stopping a charge with them could be a big thing as well.

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

I thought that too, but he get to hold them off until you want to release them. That’s why the giant rats run forward in the first turn.

@richardwales9674 6 ай бұрын

@@timraymond8245 That definitely was a thing where you could bait them out with skirmishers etc. It's been a long time since I've played Fantasy - Oldhammer - funnily enough I have both armies in this video. I also have Skarsnik and Queek but I don't know if they've made it into the timeline yet.

@richardwales9674 6 ай бұрын

@@timraymond8245 Also Plague Censer Bearers were very similar. I once opted to charge my Wulf Riders through some of those. That wasn't pretty. 😢

@goatman9998 6 ай бұрын

The rules are different now

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Ye the rules for fanatics are all different now. Just look them up and have a quick read.

@Fortunes.Fool. 6 ай бұрын

I miss my old Night Gobblin army badly 😢 Flinging squigs across the board was some incredible fun.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

It still is. Jess oh need to start again.

@Fortunes.Fool. 4 ай бұрын

Just ordered a bunch of Night Gobbos over the weekend to start my army again that I lost a few years ago. Now as I rewatch this, Manglers go on rounds in TOW for sure? I ordered two.

@richardwales9674 6 ай бұрын

Question: Does the Fell blade still ding the character carrying it, and if so when do you test for it?

@sclarke6969 6 ай бұрын

indeed it does, every turn on a 1 iirc. There's a free download PDF if you Google "old world legacy"

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

You roll each turn to see if you hurt yourself. Forgot to roll that in cam

@richardwales9674 6 ай бұрын

@@timraymond8245 No worries, thanks for the reply. Just checking. 🙂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yea if you roll a 1 at the start of each turn. But we forgot.

@nomis19821982 6 ай бұрын

Those role off dice especially the ork ❤

@MediocreHobbies 5 ай бұрын

Hahah yup

@ironbreaker82 6 ай бұрын

Fanatics being pushed out while in combat seems like something that needs an faq. Same with hits from them while in combat. They shouldn't be able to throw them out while in combat and the hits they do to a unit in combat should be randomized. There's really no reason to take anything other than blocks of night goblins with three fanatics. Seems way overpowered.

@Mikester88 6 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same. With that damage why pick anything else? What's the downside?

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Well you can’t release them in the combat phase. It’s at the start of the turn. So if you want till combat you have to survive a round of combat. If you lose and get run down you lose all the fanatics so it’s a gamble. In this game it payed off. There strong but very expensive for a unit of goblins.

@kevinmuhamad2246 6 ай бұрын

What a fun match up! I wonder if your upcoming tournament will be recorded for batrep as well?

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

Nope we did not record as not everyone would want to be on cam. But it was great fun.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

I wish but no. Thanks pal.

@spamslamwich1776 6 ай бұрын

Great game! I just wish the camera wasn't so close to the table all the time, especially during the dice rolls.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Good to know, will change that for future!

@nahuelinsua3408 3 ай бұрын

question here! where did you get that goblin yellow moon piece of scenery from? amazing

@MediocreHobbies 3 ай бұрын

It’s an age of sigmar scenery piece.

@alexlee8765 6 ай бұрын

we need doomdivers back

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

We really do.

@jevertt 6 ай бұрын

Seems like when the fanatics cross another fanatic, they would do damage to each other. So, still probably kill each other. Sound right?

@goatman9998 6 ай бұрын

They no longer out right die when they hit another fanatic but it's like 99% sure both would die from d6 st 5 ap 3 attacks to themselves

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Ye the squig that does the going over will squish the other one.

@merica6502 11 күн бұрын

Another common dub for the green skins

@lberghaus 6 ай бұрын

Do you move all the fanatics before resolving their attacks? Or should it be one at a time? If it’s one at a time after a few went through it would get hard to make your angles work.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

One at a time and no the angels would work fine.

@MarkAndTerra 6 ай бұрын

While RAW a Skaven character could attack and then "Retire" to the back I don't think it's the intent. When they do that it says that they can't make Attacks. It really should be "at the beginning of any Phase"

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hmmm interring I shall have to look that up.

@ja37d-34 6 ай бұрын

Great TOW reports, keep it up! More orcs though!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

I will indeed.

@zachmoss8896 6 ай бұрын

Great game.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Cheers.

@matthewpreston3017 5 ай бұрын

Great batrep! Just a quick one, why does the ratling gun re roll 1s? Cheers guys :)

@MediocreHobbies 5 ай бұрын

No idea lol.

@matthewpreston3017 5 ай бұрын

@@MediocreHobbies no worries, looking forward to watching more

@timraymond8245 5 ай бұрын

I got a spell off to reroll ones

@user-tc9sk4ei9y 6 ай бұрын

No panic in melee, guys. Fanatic bomb is OP, they shouldn't really let player release the fanatics if engaged

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Na I think you can work them around.

@skarnak1 6 ай бұрын

you do not get the warband bonus when you test to restrain. just FYI

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Oh that’s important.

@Onk3lM0 6 ай бұрын

It has been commented under some of your other videos but it bears repeating: You zoom in way too much. It's the equivalent of holding the viewer's head 10" away from the dice rolls. It's unnecessary and confusing. Would greatly appreciate it if you just filmed without zooming in and maybe without moving and shaking the camera around so much. Other than that great video and very enjoyable battle report!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Haven’t had that comment before-you might be thinking of a different channel? Cheers for the feedback though, appreciate it and glad you enjoyed!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Don’t remember any other comments. Nobody else seamed to mind.

@lebondave4377 6 ай бұрын

Guys your are crazy!! Probably too much fungus or warpstone 😂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hahah maybe a little.

@PyromancerRift 6 ай бұрын

I'm sure the skaven list need some adjustments. Like using strong units instead of weak units

@MediocreHobbies 5 ай бұрын

It was a game for fun and to show some cool units, not a competitive game!

@timraymond8245 5 ай бұрын

I have 8k of skaven. Write me a 1,500 point list and we will have REVENGE!!!!!!

@abdulhammouda4884 6 ай бұрын

Fun game Christ that guy was gamey though.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Little bit.

@MrSaren 2 ай бұрын

Pistol & Ratling I think can stand and shoot. (Quickshot).

@smichael1987 6 ай бұрын

I get new edition excitement, but the Skaven player was far too hyper and presumptive (read: incorrect) with lots of the rules; it made for quite exhausting viewing. You were correct to repeatedly call out the mistakes/assumptions as they had the potential to be very impactful. We're all learning the nuances of the game, naturally, and that's probably best achieved by being a little calmer.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Maybe a little but yes. He is a very excitable person.

@moonlightets3571 5 ай бұрын

Love the army list! Great game!

@MediocreHobbies 5 ай бұрын

Thanks pal it was so much fun.

@user-ir6gb9xh7r 6 ай бұрын

damn fanatics scary :O

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

I hate fanatics….😂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yuuup

@arrowackskorsou8194 6 ай бұрын

Squig hurt! 😂

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yup

@mikael2003 6 ай бұрын

Funny guys and cool armies :D

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed!

@MrGunnar177 4 ай бұрын

Ratling gun doesn’t take the penalty for moving due to quick shot 😉

@MediocreHobbies 4 ай бұрын

Oh that’s cool to known

@ja37d-34 6 ай бұрын

Fun factions!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Cheers.

@vladzignus2069 2 ай бұрын

Newman !!!

@MediocreHobbies Ай бұрын

Cheers

@shaza1448 6 ай бұрын

Holy cow its peter Griffin! Plz do the laugh on a future channel! Hehehehehe!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hahahhah

@Agozz87 5 ай бұрын

Where did you get the movement trays from if I may ask?

@MediocreHobbies 5 ай бұрын

Laser cut mdf bases I cut myself! You should be able to find similar ones online for pretty cheap 😊

@Agozz87 5 ай бұрын

@@MediocreHobbies thanks!

@emcdunna 6 ай бұрын

Skaven really miss getting to have a bunch of BS magic items like the doom rocket to carry the entire battle 😊

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

True.

@peterhairston4629 6 ай бұрын

the skavenest skaven player to ever skaven

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Hahaha very true.

@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS 6 ай бұрын

Why yes, I'll destroy a beloved game and then release a beleaguered, inferior clone of it. Why not?

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Helpful.

@Rudedog0311 6 ай бұрын

great game, fyi ratling guns dble check quick shot

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Cheers.

@cristhianmlr 6 ай бұрын

I miss savage orcs :c

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Never was a fan. But I can see why you missed them.

@craigstewardson4438 6 ай бұрын

Don't worry they are still there. It's just an upgrade to standard orc mobs. But Difficult to have full armies of them tho.

@JudasBrennan 6 ай бұрын

Those skaven dice are cancer!

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Yup

@SwopetheDope 6 ай бұрын

That's 1500 points of Goblins? XD Just as gross as I remember HA The fact that Skaven are a legacy Army and not "officially" in the game blows my mind. A faction that for the most part is essentially GWs creation and they don't include them.... for shame

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

I know rite. They for sure need to be added in.

@takatyr1924 5 ай бұрын

During the time line of the Old World the Skaven Clans are engaged in civil war. The Great Horned Rat has not arrived yet to unit the clans and bring the Skaven to the surface.

@lordcastellan4735 6 ай бұрын

Your first stormvermin combat was done wrong. The nightgoblins had 3 casualties in the front rank. That means 3 less attacks from the front rank and the 3 guys behind couldn't fight because they had to step up, meaning you used 6 more attacks than you should have.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

That’s not how it works. Your half rite. The front rank guys do indeed die and can’t fight but the second rank guys can indeed fight. Step up is later.

@shinypuppy1014 6 ай бұрын

The Skaven player is using some very iffy rules here…📕🤨

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Haha maybe a little.

@timraymond8245 6 ай бұрын

It’s the skaven way 😂… or that I did not read the rules … but who knows 😂

@poxous3854 6 ай бұрын

skirmishers are not -1to hit

@Nefyave1 6 ай бұрын

Shootinf at Skirmishers units that consist entirely of models with unit strength 1 suffer a -1 to hit modifier. Page 185 "Enemy Fire." So not the Squig hopper mobs, they are light cavalry, but the squiq herds are all unit strength 1.

@MediocreHobbies 6 ай бұрын

Oh really? In need to check that.