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Meditation: Experiencing the Body As Luminous Consciousness

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Rupert Spira

Rupert Spira

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In this meditation we take an experiential journey that explores consciousness and the body. In the first stage the experience of ourself seems to be located in and to share the limits of the body. In the second stage, we recognise ourself to be the unlimited, space-like field of consciousness. In the final stage, our experience of the body conforms to our new understanding and is progressively experienced as luminous, open, empty consciousness.
This clip has been taken from Rupert's Seven Day Retreat at Buckland Hall in December 2019.
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@anandakumarsanthinathan4740
@anandakumarsanthinathan4740 3 жыл бұрын
The quietest 50 minutes of my life. The body had sensations. The mind played its tricks. But I remained as the Self and saw the sensations of the body and the chatters of the mind. There is Silence at the place of seeing. Thank you, Rupert Spira.
@mattstocks4749
@mattstocks4749 3 жыл бұрын
Once you’ve integrated this, you feel yourself as everything . It’s incredible. And then thoughts and feeling suddenly take a bac seat . You are everything
@Matt_Parks
@Matt_Parks 3 жыл бұрын
That aligns with exactly what this guy is yelling lol. Rupert’s approach seems preferable to me haha. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdR7eJh2stmvm6s.html
@5piles
@5piles 3 жыл бұрын
if you still experience thoughts and tactile sensations you aren't even close to meditating properly
@droge192
@droge192 3 жыл бұрын
@@5piles - Lol. Got to love a fundamentalist meditator. As if "properly" is a fixed set of conditions.
@5piles
@5piles 3 жыл бұрын
@@droge192 precise definitions conditions causes and results. this holds even when one doesnt know how much they dont know
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
@@5piles No doubt you're aware of the different depths of meditation; one of them is a type of insight that's considerably beyond insensitivity. The "deeper depths" are so profound that they're beyond emotional capacities and intellectual capabilities (which makes them practically impossible to talk about). Even attempting to speak about them greatly confuses the issue and misses the point. In those "depths", even these comments don't matter; in those "depths", "meaning", "intensity" and even "Being" and Existence Itself is not only beyond energy/space/time, but is unimportant and doesn't matter one iota. But, I'm sure you're also aware of that.
@sweetchinmusic3
@sweetchinmusic3 3 жыл бұрын
Namaste, I am grateful that the ancient wisdom of India and Hinduism ( yoga and meditation) is being appreciated and adapted all over the world now...
@annegodfrey2351
@annegodfrey2351 3 жыл бұрын
pity
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
@@annegodfrey2351 Pity...?
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 Another comment about "pity". What am I missing?
@venusleoz826
@venusleoz826 2 жыл бұрын
@@annegodfrey2351 Why?
@alisonsalter9702
@alisonsalter9702 3 жыл бұрын
The most telling part of the whole video - a bit like the final chords of a piece of music - are the emotion displayed in the last few seconds as he returns to the self. The only emotion from the self in fact in the whole video. I have experienced this expression and know it deeply. Difficult to put in to words as the state of consciousness is above all dualistic language but something like: Immense gratitude for the teaching that has just flowed through the Being that he is, immense humility for these teachings being delivered and of being present with the people in the room and all who hear these teachings, and immense compassion for all human suffering borne out of the sense of self. Was really touching to witness where the dualities of Joy and Suffering come crashing together as One. Namaste xxx
@sleepydank8330
@sleepydank8330 2 жыл бұрын
I bathe in the source of creation and dwell in the expansive space of pure awareness.
@mahvash2811
@mahvash2811 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rupert for sharing the beautiful awernesswith us
@teresadeagle3079
@teresadeagle3079 2 жыл бұрын
The Most Profound and Excellent Experience and Explanation I have come across in all my years of searching and becoming my true self. Thank you Rupert and God Bless You. This Is the "Big One" I Am certain of it. 🙏
@alokchandra2028
@alokchandra2028 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing clarity of thought. Gives the sum of all that one needs to know what we call as life. It cuts the clitter of mind body comlex and connects to your true self. Thank you soo much for your guidence really indebeted🙏🙏
@cristianetalles5475
@cristianetalles5475 3 жыл бұрын
Gratidão querido Rupert por nos conduzir a fonte de nós mesmos com tanta doçura e leveza. Paz e felicidade brilham em nós!
@somigoh123
@somigoh123 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome awakening sharing indeed with joylovelight luminous shining for all beings. Namaste
@phoenixrose2087
@phoenixrose2087 3 жыл бұрын
If you exclude me from your gatherings, then I must sadly say goodbye to you, my love. May you continue to deepen in your realization. Namaste.
@school6176
@school6176 3 жыл бұрын
God “has left the building.” God “will be in the field.”
@asdflma0
@asdflma0 3 жыл бұрын
what happened?
@phoenixrose2087
@phoenixrose2087 3 жыл бұрын
@@asdflma0 Go to his website and take a look at his retreat policy.
@asdflma0
@asdflma0 3 жыл бұрын
​@@phoenixrose2087 oh, he's taking very reasonable covid precautions for an event that has people coming from all over the world during a global pandemic. gotcha.
@phoenixrose2087
@phoenixrose2087 3 жыл бұрын
@@asdflma0 seems to be coming from a perspective of duality and division for a nondual teacher. There are so many who have legitimate concerns with these experimental products. There are those who practice natural medicine, those who have religious objections, racial minorities that understandably distrust the government. The ones who accept the product offered will feel protected, so why exclude anyone?
@Neti-Netti
@Neti-Netti 9 ай бұрын
Thank you
@ultracalicokittycat
@ultracalicokittycat 3 жыл бұрын
the analogy of the space of the room works so well for "me" :~))) Thank you Rupert, so much!!!!
@achintabanerjee9065
@achintabanerjee9065 2 жыл бұрын
Pranam.
@hobodax8952
@hobodax8952 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting! I struggle with the same challenges 6:52 ! ❤ Namasté
@gireeshneroth7127
@gireeshneroth7127 3 жыл бұрын
Consciousness is happening within itself as not itself within itself.
@SamayaKefaliGermain
@SamayaKefaliGermain 3 жыл бұрын
So amazingly clear ♥️🙏. I love you ♥️🙏
@niloc1414
@niloc1414 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely marvellous.
@patrickmartel3169
@patrickmartel3169 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rupert ... much gratitude ... 🙏
@SOMERVILLELISA
@SOMERVILLELISA 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Rupert! Magnificent!
@nicolehorlorzealmetal9890
@nicolehorlorzealmetal9890 3 жыл бұрын
Thy will be done 💚
@sumakulkarni9917
@sumakulkarni9917 3 жыл бұрын
I'd wish I could get access to all your meditations Rupert, though at the risk of sounding like a greedy seeking separate self. They are helping dissolve the identification. Much Love to my Guru🙏 ❤
@keithoyoung34
@keithoyoung34 3 жыл бұрын
You can. He has two sets of meditations you can get on Amazon and on his website.Transparent body Luminous World is an amazing set of meditations🙏Enjoy.
@sumakulkarni9917
@sumakulkarni9917 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithoyoung34 Thank you so much 😊!
@keithoyoung34
@keithoyoung34 3 жыл бұрын
@@sumakulkarni9917 you’re very welcome🙏🤗
@niya-rsteam1870
@niya-rsteam1870 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Suma, Thanks for your appreciation of Rupert's teachings. Rupert now offers a streaming subscription on his website where you can access all his past meditations. rupertspira.com/subscriptions Warmly, Niya
@sumakulkarni9917
@sumakulkarni9917 3 жыл бұрын
@@niya-rsteam1870 This is unbelievably wonderful! I can't wait to start mine. Thank you so so very much! I am speechless! Hopefully I do make it to one of Rupert's retreat when the travel gets easier! 🙏❤
@renatalopatka
@renatalopatka 3 жыл бұрын
Pure beauty
@lawreence-5234
@lawreence-5234 2 жыл бұрын
So Calm and Peaceful... 🕉️
@ajsalonius8455
@ajsalonius8455 2 жыл бұрын
Grateful. Love and light
@nivedithakamath9388
@nivedithakamath9388 Жыл бұрын
This is just like one of his yoga meditations. 🧘‍♀️ at least this was my experience. Thank you Rupert 🙏
@terefefeyssa877
@terefefeyssa877 10 ай бұрын
Which yoga meditation, please? I wsnt to see
@mansuralimirani4186
@mansuralimirani4186 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou very very very much
@gentlemani85
@gentlemani85 3 жыл бұрын
Great Meditation! Thank you Rupert ❤️
@inokafernando5204
@inokafernando5204 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much…. Whole Perfect Always…! 🙏🌷🙏
@padmajagadeesan713
@padmajagadeesan713 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏Thank you very much 🙏🙏
@soubhikmukherjee6871
@soubhikmukherjee6871 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so so pleasing 😍 🙂🙂
@phoenixrose2087
@phoenixrose2087 3 жыл бұрын
“Ave Maria! Maiden mild Oh listen to a maiden’s prayer For thou canst hear amid the wild Thou canst save amidst despair. We slumber safely till the morrow Though we, by man outcast reviled. Oh, Maiden, see a maiden’s sorrow. Oh Mother, hear a suppliant child. Ave Maria!”
@nithianandans5179
@nithianandans5179 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. 🙏❤️🙏
@dr.susheelkhemariya8966
@dr.susheelkhemariya8966 3 жыл бұрын
Wahwah AhaAha woderful chamatkaic understand ing DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude Rupert spira thanks dhanyabad
@pilargarcia6724
@pilargarcia6724 3 жыл бұрын
Muchísimas gracias!!!!!
@sorcha3811
@sorcha3811 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you.
@adayinapril581
@adayinapril581 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@user-oz8xq3sv1s
@user-oz8xq3sv1s 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Thank you ')
@NondualityChannel
@NondualityChannel 3 жыл бұрын
🙏
@ishwarchatterjee
@ishwarchatterjee 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome maaaaaaannnnnnnnn... Heyooooooo 🙋
@user-ul4cn2vg8h
@user-ul4cn2vg8h Жыл бұрын
The " Cogito ergo sum" suffers from simillar problems. But I LOVE RUPTA SPIRA A LOT !
@angeloiodice9304
@angeloiodice9304 2 жыл бұрын
This intelligent, sensible man has taken a ready-group and systematically peeled away an assumed universally ignorant paradigm of humanity that fails to allow human being a knowing of their nature accurately. He does so by his return to clarity of his human relationship to Consciousness. He then shares his clarity by giving the student an opportunity to investigate their dissatisfied belief system, compared to their present state that the fine teacher has created a clearing for. Rupert creates this learning mechanism due in part to his ability to speak and convey ideas meticulously, fully knowing most of the delusional concepts held by mankind, investigating them with the student, and then pointing to and creating a space for the student to match their own current experience with their old paradigm and allowing the student to make a conscious decision at this point to choose his/her own experience or to continue in the same vein that creates dissatisfaction.
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 3 жыл бұрын
The world is 4,500,000,000 years old. Yet we are in the year 2021 !!!
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 3 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 Even if the calendars went back a million years, which they obviously don’t … still a tiny scratch upon the surface of time. And the point is ‘modern man’ is only in 2021.
@dr.susheelkhemariya8966
@dr.susheelkhemariya8966 2 жыл бұрын
DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude dhanyabad dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad wahwah AhaAha wonderful Chamatkaric Vishmay wonderful RUPertspira DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad
@wilma8326
@wilma8326 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are sensations that do not necessarily source from something called a body or something called matter. But the sensations do differ and change all the time, depending on where the attention goes. Thought wants to say, if I put my attention to my feet, they feel different from if I put the attention to my eyes. And even if I drop the labels feet and eyes, I can still feel the difference. So the difference is the different frequency and for practical reasons of communicatiin it's good to give labels to those frequencies. Just knowing they are labels, not a definition of content
@tryadifferentone354
@tryadifferentone354 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, I just used 40 min of this to clean my kitchen :)
@tryadifferentone354
@tryadifferentone354 3 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 who told you I was bored? Check yourself Buddy, running on assumptions there…
@tryadifferentone354
@tryadifferentone354 3 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 you made it clear that you found it insulting, but I did not say, nor did anything insulting, the fact that you felt that way is your own stuff and you need to look at that before you judge how I choose to do my own practice. You are not in my body and you don't know about my life circumstances at all. To say that there's a specific way to practice these things is wanting to put a limit on it (let ME worry about if it is distracting or not ) You do your own way and leave me in peace to do my thing. Deal? And even more simply than that: I am free to listen to whatever videos I want when cleaning my kitchen or doing anything else for that matter. Chill out.
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 Ana is joking (and it's a great joke!). You missed it and projected your own attitudes. I've made the same mistake more than once, tripping over my own conditioning (my forehead's flat from beating my head on the wall). ⚡🤪💥🔨⚡
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
How ⚡FUNNY⚡, ANA (just don't operate heavy machinery while listening to Rupert)...! Keep on keepin' on...! ⚡👍🥴👍⚡
@tryadifferentone354
@tryadifferentone354 3 жыл бұрын
@@Da_Xman 😂😘❤️❤️
@malabuha
@malabuha Жыл бұрын
When you talk about consciousness, it immediately takes me to awareness that I am looking at it. The only thing I am ever aware of, really, is consciousness. A microwave in front of me is the evidence. Something like when you can see an object proves that your eyes are functional. How I proves that I am. 🤭
@juliennenebig2798
@juliennenebig2798 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@user-ul4cn2vg8h
@user-ul4cn2vg8h Жыл бұрын
Because they r all FORMS
@mthomas1800
@mthomas1800 3 жыл бұрын
🙏❤️
@chrisfillman6335
@chrisfillman6335 Жыл бұрын
And in the analogy of deep sleep,so then what we are doing by becoming enlightend is to commit ourselves to forever reside as something that doeant even experience itself as it goes on? Like forever existing in complete darknwss.
@TatsumakiSenpuuKyaku
@TatsumakiSenpuuKyaku 2 жыл бұрын
12.06
@chrisfillman6335
@chrisfillman6335 Жыл бұрын
If it was eternal then wouldn't we have experience of it before and without the body? However there is no experience of it without the body.
@FF-dl2ho
@FF-dl2ho 3 жыл бұрын
How long does the 3rd stage take? (If there is even an end) Can anyone share their experiences? It sounds very nice if that which was implied in the video can be embodied and experienced. Thank you
@alisonsalter8352
@alisonsalter8352 3 жыл бұрын
I experienced the latter stages in the last few weeks for a prolonged period. I am intense practiser in waking life not just in meditation. I went on retreat to an isolated cottagr by the sea and removed all contact with outside world away. No phone, internet, clocks/time, people, tv..nothing just me and experience. Lots of revelations. I meditated for a total of roughly 5 hours a day (going on the tides of the sea for time). For the longest session i reckon it was approaching 2hours. I experiencesd thr state of intensity light luminosity and all else he describes. Because i had no outside distractions, i just sat...and sat..and sat...and gradually this experience infiltrated the body...until there was no body. Just luminous light and the breath breathing through it. Shortly after experiencing that I also experienced what I feel was astral.projection out ofthe body. 🙏
@FF-dl2ho
@FF-dl2ho 3 жыл бұрын
@@alisonsalter8352 thank you very much! That is very encouraging to hear.
@spiritlightpajic7299
@spiritlightpajic7299 10 ай бұрын
🌅That materialistic paradaim of The Creation IS of the 2nd and the 3rd Chepters of Genessis , which lS The Creation of the finite sense mind , and Yet , According to The FIRST Chapter of The Genesis in The Bible , God lS REVEALED As The WORD , Whom lS The Life and The Light , of ALL Beings. THAT WORD , lS , l , God lnfinite Consciousness , and it lS God Consciousness that Constitute lndividual Being , and so the man-ifestation lS Wholy Spiritual and Spiritualy Whole , including The Entire Uni-Verse and ALL that lS Therein🙏
@richardc861
@richardc861 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone help me please? This is where I am at. I am consciousness and experience it presently. The point I am currently at is what do I do with my time on earth. I know the answer is just experience but that is irritating me at the moment as I feel purposelessness. I don’t even know if what I am writing is how I truly feel.
@droge192
@droge192 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure there are words that can address what you describe. It's very common though. The attachment to value and purpose. Eventually, pure being is the only purpose and it is wholly satisfying. In fact, it is just *whole* , complete.
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
Droge knows what he's talking about, Richard. You're experiencing something necessary for you to go through; it's part of your own unique personal process of becoming aware of the True Nature of Genuine Awareness. Accept and surrender to that process and Awareness will guide you (just as It's already guided you to Rupert Spira and this video he's posted). Have faith in Absolute Truth...(It's what's brought you here). Rupert Spira is the real thing - pay attention to him and KEEP GOING...! ⚡❤️⚡
@richardc861
@richardc861 3 жыл бұрын
@@droge192 thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
@richardc861
@richardc861 3 жыл бұрын
@@Da_Xman thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
@richardc861
@richardc861 3 жыл бұрын
@@usr909 I feel my experience of consciousness ends and just return to pure consciousness.
@TheHmmka
@TheHmmka 3 жыл бұрын
🍀🍀🍀🍀
@margueritecurtis2168
@margueritecurtis2168 3 жыл бұрын
🌹❤🙏
@TheBrakedown
@TheBrakedown 11 ай бұрын
What is consciousness without experience?
@LucaS-fj2vh
@LucaS-fj2vh 3 жыл бұрын
💞🙏🌺
@user-ul4cn2vg8h
@user-ul4cn2vg8h Жыл бұрын
Q: if i first asume an existing idialistic entity i may later refer or conclud that there is one. And also note it with a name :. "Awareness". "Me"." Self". Being idialistic that entity by definition is also spaceless/timeless.right ! But ! asuming one doen't allow me to jump to the conclusion that there is one . Because the materialistic can still declair : it is your "materialistic" mind which illude u to think that the essence of you is nothing but an awareness.... Different way to say this : can one use an intelegible metod (words , consepts )in order to 'prove' an un intelegible medium ?
@patrickmartel3169
@patrickmartel3169 2 жыл бұрын
Does consciousness know experience without a body?
@hemant1010
@hemant1010 9 ай бұрын
💤
@user-ul4cn2vg8h
@user-ul4cn2vg8h Жыл бұрын
Or: we r not allowed to refer any knowledge from unknowladge.
@jordicostadomenech8270
@jordicostadomenech8270 3 жыл бұрын
Hola¡ 7:11 també es cer que la conciencia ilimitada está aquí com es la Vida jo i tot, en aquest sentit imaginem una gota que surt d'una ona del mar i després torna a la mar així successivament una rere l'altra però totes diferents . Tot es conciencia que apareix i desapareix, així jo i tot . Aquesta conciencia que está aquí per una estona desapareix i no desapareix , no desapareix perquè sempre es la mateixa i, també desapareix un producte de conciencia únic i irrepetible deixant rastre aquí en aquesta Vida, segons sigui el seu adonar-se que és Vida serà més profitosa socialment o no.
@thuhaau5634
@thuhaau5634 2 жыл бұрын
⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘
@somigoh123
@somigoh123 3 жыл бұрын
3rd state? Instantly if you can understand body mind self are mind made. Let go of wrong views. Change of thought to awakening awareness of process of experiential not Existential consciousness. Namaste
@venusleoz826
@venusleoz826 2 жыл бұрын
No, Rupert, there was never any big bang. This game was created by a creator, and there is no outer space. The earth is FLAT and MOTIONLESS.
@user-ul4cn2vg8h
@user-ul4cn2vg8h Жыл бұрын
"Awareness" is absulutly eternal and infinite . Sure ! But so are "smartness", "sadness" , happyness" , "wisdom" , "fullness", emptyness" ...etc. they are all.concepts in the form of "xxxness" !!! The meanings of all of them is "wich are endless , timeless, completes..etc. No ?
@user-zp3ud7of6c
@user-zp3ud7of6c 5 ай бұрын
کاش بفارسی زیر نویس داشت
@thetaeater
@thetaeater 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like Rupert is belittling materialists, perhaps its sympathy? There is a sensation of frustration that arises when something that is so plainly obvious is unable to been understood or experienced by another.
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
"Materialism": an over-fixation of interests and values with objects. Nothing particularly "wrong" material interests and values (per se), but when those interests and values are so intensely focused as to become predatory, they become very seriously destructive (i.e., human values on Planet Earth...anyone?). That's probably Rupert Spira's reference. Sympathy? Maybe. Irony and concern? Very probably, especially in understanding the true value of Awareness, without which there would or could be no objects to enjoy or even observe and witness. Cognizant Awareness is the only true and permanent value; all else is temporary and consequently expendable. Cognizant Awareness is the True "'I' that is 'me'", which is the Heart of all Existence existing. At least that's what I "think" (LOL...!). And, your 100%. Greed for objects (materialism) is definitely frustrating, but it's also human nature. ⚡🤪💥🔨⚡
@jimarison
@jimarison 3 жыл бұрын
why do you talk so much about enlightenment Rupert?
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you suppose?
@jimarison
@jimarison 3 жыл бұрын
@@Da_Xman because he wants to be enlightened
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
Shees...I get it; how foolish. Missed your joke entirely. Wuttsamaddame? Sorry, my sense of humour must be on vacation... ⚡🤪💥🔨⚡
@TerryLightfoot
@TerryLightfoot 3 жыл бұрын
...or, just spitballing here.. He's talking to an audience that is seeking enlightenment.
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
@@TerryLightfoot Rupert Spira is deliberately pointing the way in a context for a specific audience. Isn't this meditation a demonstration to allow everyone to recognize a perspective that's not generally typical, which is what it's all about. That experience is the experience of the bottom line. Ironically, "we" all inherently know it but unwittingly get lost in it. Maybe 'just me", but there's a very good chance a lot more (maybe?). This is really substantial information.
@user-ul4cn2vg8h
@user-ul4cn2vg8h Жыл бұрын
Rupert . sorry.
@frankfunkpt5321
@frankfunkpt5321 2 жыл бұрын
As detailed as Rupert is about the awarness of being, his discription of what evolutionist believe, is extreemly mocking and lacking detail.
@5piles
@5piles 3 жыл бұрын
kindergarten level
@droge192
@droge192 3 жыл бұрын
^^^^ Spiritual cowboy / warrior. Lol. 5piles is way ahead of us all. His arrogance comes from pure enlightenment!
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
@@droge192 5piles is a troll. Don't waste any more of your precious time on something like that.
@5piles
@5piles 3 жыл бұрын
@@Da_Xman part of the definition of a troll means to give insincere criticism. learn words.
@Da_Xman
@Da_Xman 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment of "kindergarten" is extremely demeaning, critical bullying with no other purpose. If Rupert Spira isn't up to your obviously superior standards, why are you even here with us "stupid lightweights", if not trolling and creating ugly feelings for actually sincere individuals who definitely do, and very considerably, appreciate and admire Rupert Spira. Why not spit at us from your ivory tower?
@venusleoz826
@venusleoz826 2 жыл бұрын
@@5piles So what spiritual practice do you use, and what spiritual teacher do you listen to that are more mature than this "kindergarten level"?
@freeman669
@freeman669 3 жыл бұрын
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@LucaS-fj2vh
@LucaS-fj2vh 2 жыл бұрын
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