To the people saying this crossbow wouldn't penetrate armour: you are making a mistake by assuming all plate armour were the same high quality standard. Armour quality would vary, so would the effectiveness of the crossbow. And most combatants wouldn't even wear plate armour.
@mandersonmatters30129 жыл бұрын
Thiago Monteiro given crossbows draw length disadvantage to bows, A crossbow With a 200lb draw weight would be about as powerful as a 50lb bow, definitely not an armor piercing weapon.
@BuGGyBoBerl9 жыл бұрын
Manderson matters but we are talking about 300-450 lb crossbows and if you take heavier bolts you can weak the effect of draw length
@mandersonmatters30129 жыл бұрын
BuGGyBoBerl bolts weren't usually heavier than arrows and you can make the arrow/bolt as light or heavy as you want so it's not really an issue. The crossbow in this video had a 200 pound draw weight, a crossbow with a 300-450 pound draw weight would equal a bow with a 70-100 pound draw weight a powerful bow but not nearly as powerful as a 150 pound English war bow.
@BuGGyBoBerl9 жыл бұрын
Manderson matters 1.the 150lb warbow is not the regular one. only a few can shoot him consistent in a battle. 2. ofc you can make arrows/bolts heavier as you please, however thats the main difference/advantage between crossbows and warbows. make heavier arrows and you lose a lot of velocity. make heavier bolts and you barely lose any velocity. you can fire heavier bolts with a crossbow and still have the same velocity. due to the limited materials abilities and the reduced draw length a crossbow has a maximum acceleration potential. you can shot very light bolts at, lets say, 60m/s. however you can shoot pretty heavy projectiles at 55-60 m/s too. ofc if they get far too heavy they lose velocity but you can heavier bolts thx to the absurd draw weights
@mandersonmatters30129 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard much about crossbows being able to shoot heavy bolts without losing velocity but I suppose that makes sense . Yes 150lb war bows weren't the most common but given that there is a debate if even 250 pound to 200lb warbows could peirce plate than certainly only the most powerful crossbows were effective against plate.
@TheRenzo133710 жыл бұрын
Kevin Hicks is badass
@HalfKaztBoy9 жыл бұрын
Lmao 1:10 "Can I have a go?" ...... "yer alright :("
@HalfKaztBoy8 жыл бұрын
exactly what I was thinking
@hghr28827 жыл бұрын
hahaha ye m8
@Orkhane9 жыл бұрын
I love Hicks' evil chuckle at 1:31
@KrasniPerec10 жыл бұрын
Time to play some medieval 2 total war.
@benjaminabbott470510 жыл бұрын
It's extremely doubtful a 200lb crossbow with such a short power stroke could pierce historical plate armor - or even mail with padding, for that matter.
@89tonstar9 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Abbott Uh a 70lb composite bow used to go right through Roman Lorica Hamata
@mandersonmatters30129 жыл бұрын
***** I'm pretty sure a 200lb crossbow would be equal to a 40-50 pound bow not 70.
@89tonstar9 жыл бұрын
Manderson matters that doesn't make sense in anyway shape or form
@mandersonmatters30129 жыл бұрын
tbone martinez Well the crossbow has a 6 inch draw length on average and a longbow has a 22-30 inch draw length meaning the longbow has a lot more time to accelerate an arrow, so for a crossbow to be as or more powerful then a longbow it has to have somewhere around 3.5-4.2 times the draw weight which requires a cranequin or windlass to operate.
@BuGGyBoBerl9 жыл бұрын
Manderson matters 1. heavier projectiles lead to higher penetration and wont slow down the projectile much in contrary to using heavier arrows for bows. so you can weaken the effect of shorter draw lenght this way. 2. you can span up to 450lbs crossbows with a simple mechanism like goat foot lever
@djericanthony8 жыл бұрын
I like the way he says "Snoi-pah"
@haijyvelho10 жыл бұрын
0:39 That's a damn weird angle the bolt landed in. Look at the guy, he is holding the crossbow a bit downwards and the bolt flies from straight in front of the target. Now I'm not saying this matters, but why couldn't they just have shown us where that shot really landed? Edit: Yeah, seems like they did the exact same thing at 1:19.
@micahmcgraw99219 жыл бұрын
The bolt that strikes the target is indeed a separate shot. Look at the bolt Kevin is shooting at 0:40. The fletches are black, whereas the fletches of the bolt that actually hits the target are white.
@CaptainGameGuru9 жыл бұрын
I know that the Longbow had better range and all that but theres just something Awesome about the mechanical Properties of the Crossbow.
@alexc7857 Жыл бұрын
although the crossbow couldn't piece plate, there was a weapon of the ages that without a doubt would and that's the roman ballista with over 10 times the kinetic energy of a crossbow and forged with an armour piercing tip, this piece of artillery would genuinely penetrate any man on the field ;) this was the equivalent of the modern day sniper rifle, range 400 meters, and atleast half as many joules of energy as a modern AK47.
@JamesPond-cd3tp5 жыл бұрын
Without eccentric people where would mankind be? We need eccentricity and experts like this to keep history alive!
@TheMagicalTouch11 жыл бұрын
*slow clap* Congrats. You just replied to my comment on a video, of which I don't even remember writing.
@FuckYouYouFuck10 жыл бұрын
"This would knock someone over, right!?!" No. "It would go through plate armour." No. 200 pound crossbow? Haha, no.
@Zeppelin6169 жыл бұрын
Seriously, steel plate and chainmail is incredibly hard to penetrate. Perhaps at close range with the right type of arrowhead it could stick, but it wouldn't do enough damage to their center mass to kill or even incapacitate them. I wouldn't be surprised if the blunt damage inflicted by shooting at somebody's steel helm would be lethal though.
@thomaszhang31014 жыл бұрын
Even 1250 lb windlass crossbow cannot go through a properly made plate armor. Well, at least not enough to do any damage.
@davedark2711 жыл бұрын
You know nothing Dan Snow!
@lancerd49347 жыл бұрын
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If the recoil doesn't knock you down, the missile won't knock down your enemy.
@Farseer19958 жыл бұрын
BOLTS CANNOT FULLY PUNCTURE PLATE ARMOUR. People you have to understand, that infrantry didn't put plate armour over their naked bodies. They wore normal clothes, boiled leather, mail AND THEN plate armour. So even if a bolt could slightly penetrate the plate, chances of it coming in contact with skin is EXTREMELY small. At close range probably, but at medium/long range never.
@rizvianaragon11828 жыл бұрын
Correct
@bloodypine228 жыл бұрын
Leather armour wasnt used. They had Normal clothes a gambenson ,mail and plate
@warrax1117 жыл бұрын
No crossbow can penetrate quality plate, with chainmail and gamberson underneth. Even at short range. The other story is to hit into weaker spots, or into visor of helmet, or face. Anyway, 200 pound draw weight crossbow don't do anything against armor. The ones for penetrating armor were heavy windlass 1000+ pounds crossbows.
@Rasmus16036 жыл бұрын
Farseer1995 slightly wrong boiled leather OVER not under mail was used only in the 13th century in France called a "Cuir Bouilli" which didnt turn out much better than just mail... a normal 15th century knight in full plate harness (german) would wear an aketon Underneath the armour which is enough ! Only the italians wore a mail shirt and skirt under the harness until about 1420 or so after that they discarded that aswell.
@Daylon916 жыл бұрын
Yea that's why he said "at this range" armour wouldn't have helped
@loriv.89868 жыл бұрын
Where are the full episodes?
@stefankrunic71557 жыл бұрын
Sometimes heavy crossbows do not go trough plate armor,medium crossbows can go with ease trough mail,but trough plate armor,no chance.
@spammage8411 жыл бұрын
"Can I have a go?" ... ... "Yeah alright."
@jimmm-vy6yh8 жыл бұрын
A crossbow bolt wouldn't go through a hardened steel cuirass only mail and it might puncture a munitions quality piece of armour but the damage to the enemy would be negligible. A common misconception is that the crossbow was anti armour, on the contrary it was anti light infantry by a long shot and English armies preferred bowmen anyway so when the rare noble approached in a suit of plate they could aim for the gaps and theres an obvious rate of fire advantage. The only real advantage of the crossbow is it requires less training. Crossbows have very similar draw weights to warbows unless you get something really heavy. Also one last point, crossbows are much, much older than longbows; even the anglo saxons used crossbows. The longbow surpassed it technologically for a number of reasons mostly range + rate of fire. And England by the 13th century had the infrastructural ability to train youngun's from age 11 in the use of the longbow to field a professional army which the anglo saxons didn't.
@eduardofreitas83368 жыл бұрын
Not the only advantage. You can snipe with it, leaving it loaded and firing quickly when needed. Also useful to threat people.
@MrLoopyLoop111 жыл бұрын
ahem...an automatic expert are you? well FYI the fletching on the back of the bolt (or arrow in this case look it up) dosnt just make the arrow stable but back heavy and over even just a short distance it can reduce angle and if you take a close look at the target the arrow is still on a slight angle.
@swanyAJ11 жыл бұрын
Sorry Sherlock, we don't need you, we've found someone better.
@Quickdogs11 жыл бұрын
not exactly, i had made a crossbow and i fired it into a mat at an angle and because the mat was so tough, the arrow would turn to the level of the mat, besides, that arrow was tilted a little bit
@Vccine10 жыл бұрын
It is pretty amazing that such a small (comparatively to longbows) crossbow has a draw weight of 200 lbs.
@likliklik95159 жыл бұрын
It is very powerful I will give you that but bear in mind it's limbs aren't as long with a smaller power-stroke. In conclusion this means that it's draw length is less powerful than a 200" longbow.
@Vccine9 жыл бұрын
Jowen Dyer Yes I do know that. If the span length or draw length is only 15 inches (for example) and a large size man can draw a bow up to 30 inches, technically the crossbow would be twice as weak. Still, it requires so much less strength and skill to use crossbow than a bow
@flyboymike1113579 жыл бұрын
Vccine If a cross bow has half the power of a long bow how would it compare to a recurve?
@Vccine9 жыл бұрын
Mike Mac I meant a bow in general, not longbow. By the way you can make the limbs to curve of a crossbow bow part as well as any other regular bow.
@rowan674311 жыл бұрын
not to mention the fact the crossbow was not "primed" or loaded
@Ostarrichi99611 жыл бұрын
1:36 So did he said, that the bolt would go trough or not?
@IIDASHII11 жыл бұрын
You do realize that arrows wobble in flight, right? Especially short ones...fired from 200lb bows...
@TheMagicalTouch12 жыл бұрын
the arrow hit is fake... it would be tilted towards the ground if it was fired from the castle, but it was paralell to the ground...
@hugoakerlund51148 жыл бұрын
i would like to have such a crossbow. Does Kevin Hicks sell longbows by any chance?
@hugoakerlund51147 жыл бұрын
Arnar Asmundsson dont have the skills
@poppywarner1776 жыл бұрын
Scandinavian Huntsman toddstuff in the uk makes and sells them but a basic one is about £600 .
@Wesker19827 жыл бұрын
go through plate armor? haha, no way!
@thedukeofantioch10 жыл бұрын
i want one.how do i get one
@thedukeofantioch10 жыл бұрын
edward simm dont know how to build one.do you have an address of an arbalist?
@---rd1tc3 жыл бұрын
これで確実に人間を殺せるじゃん
@658000624711 жыл бұрын
I agree, Discovery only specializes in animal porn.
@romanalekhin78879 жыл бұрын
"Chances are it will go penetrate plated armour from this range" How about instead of making claims, you actually prove it. Bbased on my experience of shooting crossbows (175LB draw weight) and numerous other sources, crossbows, in general are ineffective at penetrating thick metal platings. This "expert" should have demonstrated it by shooting at a metal plate... In this video it is shown that a thick wooden silhouette did a perfect job of stopping the bolt.
@BuGGyBoBerl9 жыл бұрын
***** actually they are very viable against "thick" plate armor. you just need crossbows with 350 lbs + and heavy projectiles
@Farseer19958 жыл бұрын
people also tend to forget that infrantry didn't wear plate armour over their bare ass. They had regular clothing, mail, leather and then plate armour.