Medium Format Camera Hasselblad X or Fujifilm GFX? Analysis Point by Point

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Medium Format Camera Hasselblad X or Fujifilm GFX? Analysis Point by Point - IN ENGLISH

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Eric Gibaud

Күн бұрын

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@hatonafox5170 12 күн бұрын

Absolutely great video. Very fair and balanced from someone with experience using both camera systems.

@BenjaminKanarek 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this exposé. I own 3 x GFX cameras and 8 lenses and have used Blad. Blad is soooooo slow and cumbersome. GFX outclasses the Blads in all areas.

@EricGibaud 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your feed back

@Mocha_122 17 күн бұрын

Recently tried out the X2D at the Hasselbad store and i compared it to my GFX. One thing i noticed immediately picking up the Hassel is how comfortable the grip is and its not as chunky as my GFX. I like the weight, built quality, and ease of use of its ui. My biggest complaint of the GFX is the slow flash sync speed.

@outwestjim Ай бұрын

Great video! As a user of the GFX 100 and GFX 100II, I’d like to hear more about how you achieve accurate color in flesh tones

@friendofarca6550 27 күн бұрын

hm, you definitely don´t want accurate skin colours... but anyway , correct WB ( with a color checker) is a key point

@friendofarca6550 Ай бұрын

wow, couldn´t agree more ! it is the first video I have watched about hasselblad x which does not mislead or tell plain lies as many of the (bought ) YT guys do. I´m very convinced hasselblad is kept alive with the smallest possible commitment so that DJI can use the name on their drones nothing more. when you see it this way everything makes sense. fuji on the other hand delivers very clever what pros need as they understand this is the most important group of customers for MF cameras.

@EricGibaud Ай бұрын

Thank you very much

@BlazeFirereign 28 күн бұрын

Different users have different requirements and priorities, objective and subjective. You don't have to be a paid shill, as you imply, to have a preference for the Hasselblad system. What examples do you have of the "YT guys" deliberately misleading people? I haven't seen anyone of note denying that Hasselblad is smaller, less versatile, and has supply issues. These are entirely fair criticisms and good reasons for some - most - to opt for Fuji instead, before even considering the price. I don't think it's fair to suggest this means Hasselblad are being run as a minimum viable operation. Personally, I'd also suggest that the most important group of buyers are the hobbyists - because they make up the *vast* majority of the people buying cameras and lenses, in *every* format. Indeed, the bulk of pro photographers would struggle to afford new mirrorless gear of any kind, let alone medium format. It is, sadly, not a well paid profession for most people.

@friendofarca6550 27 күн бұрын

@@BlazeFirereign hasselblad used HNCS as marketing claim long before the X but it was not a big thing before the YT guys started phantasising about color science. now it is one of the most praised advantages and then this fools show you images rendered with LR instead of Phocus. so all this magical advantage can be incorporated in a simple DNG profile build by adobe ? they also never talk about the missing AF-C option which is totally bogus considering how important this is in combination with eye af. every motive benefits from this feature exempt absolute static ones but on YT this gets downplayed. in the film days most MF user had been amateurs but this has changed with digital. hasselblad sells at very low numbers compared to fuji and almost no pro buys into this system for the reasons Eric laid out. having a relative large body and than sticking small lenses with compromised optical design on it does not makes sense either. also not having a line of excellent zoom lenses is a big disadvantage too the folks excited about the V logo and lens design never touch....

@franciscoscaramanga2342 6 ай бұрын

Eres un crack! Glad to see that there are some outthere that still point out the nasty little details. Almost pulled the trigger on a 907x due to the size factor but the size of the new lenses made no sense to me unlees Blad hirred an alchimist that defies the laws of know phisics. Thanks for confirming all that I have learned over decades of buying/using photograpy gear and thanks for the heads up!

@yogi4fitness Ай бұрын

Most honest comparison between Hasselblad and GFX system that is free of any Halo effect biases.

@EricGibaud Ай бұрын

Thank you very much

@sigurdrille9693 Күн бұрын

Thank you!

@EricGibaud Күн бұрын

Thanks for watching

@dantemclalla2804 6 ай бұрын

I'm buying the HB 907x 100c and I don't care if it has no ibis as long as you are able to use the proper shutter speed in relation to the focal length. I've always used Leica M cameras (M11 recently) which have no ibis and in 10 years I had zero issue by just applying the above rule. On my Nikon Z9 and Leica SL2 ibis is often off as I never shoot handheld below a safe shutter speed due to the excellent high ISO capabilities of modern sensor. Hasselblad AF is worse than Fujifilm but if I need a good AF and I'm a pro, I always choose Sony/canon/nikon not really Fuji. Fuji offers several colour profiles but no proprietary raw converter whereas HB can benefit from Phocus. If you are a pro, colour science is the main "goal" to achieve. HB has a slower pace for sure but gives a colour science that no other camera brand can provide. As to weather sealing, no camera brand unless Leica declares an IP rating, not Sony, Canon Nikon nor Fuji. HB X2d is weather sealed and also 907X (it's even declared on the spec sheet on their website) but to a lower extent. I do agree on poor firmware update strategy by HB, they should improve this aspect.

@EricGibaud 6 ай бұрын

Well… you make several mistakes… OM SYSTEM does indicate IP rating. Canon, Nikon and Sony do indicate weather sealing, Hasselblad just does not say anything officialy about any sealing! My experiencie is that I have no problem getting the same colors in Lightroom or Iridient with Fujilm as I get with Phocus with my Hasselblad. IBIS on 100mpix is not the same strory as no ibis on a less resolution sensor…. With 100mpix and no ibis, a bare minimum is 1/250s… and if your idea is to use a 100mpix on a film Hasselblad, bare in mind that V lenses will not resolve the 100mpix, the 50mpix is far better option for that. Thank you for your opinion.

@dantemclalla2804 6 ай бұрын

@@EricGibaud First of all, it's nice to talk to you! You're right HB does not expressly state that it is weather sealed but the doors, the battery, and the rear of the lenses are rubber-sealed, which should make the X2D weather resistant. I used a OM system OM1, Nikon Z9 and Leica SL2 in heavy rain and I've always protected them with a cover, I'll do the same with my HB. As to colour profile, you should know that both Adobe and Capture One emulate the colour profile of different camera manufacturers but they only provide generic colour profiles. Phase one has C1, HB Phocus, Nikon NX, Sony Imaging Edge, Canon DPP, Fujifilm HAVE NOTHING specific and you must use LR or C1. As to IBIS, as you know, 60mp on 24x36 FF are equivalent to 100mp on 44x33 sensor, I had no issue with my Leica M11 (or my HB X1D with no ibis in 2018) and I hopefully won't have any issue with my 907x 100.

@EricGibaud 6 ай бұрын

Yes, maybe Fujifilm should create their own software. Of course I do hope you will be happy with your 907. Have a great day!

@BlazeFirereign 27 күн бұрын

I think your criticisms of Hasselblad are largely fair. It's certainly not the right system for most people. The GFX system is substantially less expensive, more versatile, and has more certain backing behind it, for results that are very similar at the end of the day. But I do think there's a place for the X system, for some photographers. It does offer a different shooting experience, one that I personally find far more enjoyable than any other offering, especially with Hasselblad's focus on compact, lightweight primes, an area where I think Fuji are lacking. But I'm just a hobbyist, and I can put up with the difficulty of getting lenses. I think one key thing for any photographer, hobbyist or professional, is to evaluate whether a system does what they need *now,* instead of buying into a system and expecting future firmware updates and lens releases that will meet their needs. I would like to comment on weather sealing, and to play devil's advocate here: I *suspect* Hasselblad's approach here is to avoid saying "weather sealing" unless the kit is actually IP rated, to discourage use in harsh conditions. To my knowledge, Fujifilm don't IP rate their gear - and if your Fuji kit experienced any problems due to water or dust ingress, they would brush off any complaints or warranty, just as Hasselblad would. The same is true of any other camera manufacturer. And there are cases of "weather sealed" cameras, lacking an IP rating, that have experienced ingress problems, like the Sony A7III which had problems with its battery door. There is certainly some consideration for weather sealing with Hasselblad, with visible gaskets on lens mounts, batteries, and port covers, and the XCD 28P is actually IP52 rated - although it stands alone in this regard. The only manufacturers that IP rate lots of their kit are OM System and Leica, and they're the only ones that I'd expose to rougher weather.

@phnxbr 22 күн бұрын

The decisive moment for me is the GFX community output compared to X2D ones. More interesting results on side of GFX

@R0dan 4 ай бұрын

I don’t understand…I just watched your KZfaq where you were ecstatic over the Hasseblad 907x50??

@EricGibaud 4 ай бұрын

Hello. Yes, as I say, I am happy about my camera buy not happy at all about Hasselblad total lack of seriousness. No firmware update that were supposed to happen, no availability of lenses etc. This makes Haselblad an option that is not reliable if your income depends on your camera. I don’t see what you don’t understand. You maybe happy about your care until you discover there are no spare parts available for months if it breaks down.

@luissalazar2021 4 ай бұрын

The 120 mm is a beast of lens, thanks for sharing

@EricGibaud 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your opinion

@DavidKenphotographe 5 ай бұрын

Bravo et merci pour cette analyse, enfin la fin de la langue de bois.Hasselblad est ou malheureusement était une grande marque. Depuis la reprise par DJI c’est juste la catastrophe, délais sur produit( j’ai l’impression d’acheter une Ferrari) et manque de vision et de considération pour les pros. CQFD 👏

@CEEPMDEE 4 ай бұрын

Hasselblad has the superior colors of the two, so I purchased an older CCD 80MP Phase One instead. The mirrorless cameras are not well done yet in my opinion.

@EricGibaud 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience

@friendofarca6550 Ай бұрын

haha where do you folks get this BS from ?

@nativestrong7253 4 ай бұрын

Fujifilm had a chance to rock the market but opted to price the camera near the same price as a Hassel or a Leica.

@friendofarca6550 Ай бұрын

it is cheaper than canon Nikon and sony high end cameras !

@iamtesting3824 6 ай бұрын

Hasselblad is just too expensive ...

@ChrisM-yq2pq 2 ай бұрын

That’s why they are Hasselblad. Ever heard of leaf shutter? They are expensive to make. Know what leaf shutter does ? Allow sych at 1/2000 sec. That’s flash at 1/2000 which you can you with big aperture outdoors without need for HSS and big flashes

@ChrisM-yq2pq 2 ай бұрын

1/2000 sych speed is a big deal

@mauricerijnders3507 3 ай бұрын

This is not entirely correct. The focus speed between the Fuji and Hasselblad is depending on the lens combination. The Fuji with the 55mm is slower than anything while the the x2d and 907x 100c with the new xcd 55mm 2.5 is ok (blazing fast if you compare with the Fuji. On the other hand the Fuji 110mm is super fast against the Hasselblad system... Fuji does seem to have a better autofocus but only a few lenses can benefit from that. Next to that Fuji lenses are HEAVY and BULKY compared to Hasselblad. Then again Fuji is a better weather sealed. Last but least Fuji works better with other (fe Leica) glass. The leaf shutter on the Hasselblad makes it almost unusable (banding with artificial light and rolling shutter). So... each of them have their own advantages depending on your type of photography 😁👍🏼

@EricGibaud 3 ай бұрын

Hello, thank you for sharing your experience.

@mauricerijnders3507 3 ай бұрын

@@EricGibaud Thank you for making these videos 😊👍🏼

@friendofarca6550 Ай бұрын

no the hasselblad x2d 100 is simply not on the same level as a GFX 100II/sII even with the slowest lenses.

@nikolai_art 29 күн бұрын

@mauriceijenders This isn't true at all. The GFX 100II has better AF performance with ANY GF lens, than the Hasselblad X2D with even the fastest Hassy lens. So what you wrote is pretty much the opposite of reality. The GF55 and GF80 are probably the slowest lenses in the GFX systems, yet they still perform better on the 100ii than anything Hasselblad can muster. That is because the AF performance of the GFX100ii is by far the best of any middle format camera. Independent of the lens. Fast AF lenses like the 110 only make the gap even larger. Edit: just to add. I am not knocking Hasselblad. I own Fuji GFX, but a colleague shoots only Hassy, and I have had good experiences with the X2D and an older 907/50.

@asamxs 2 ай бұрын

Not any brand can compare the Hasselblad 16 bit dept quality.

@EricGibaud 2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 gfx has the same sensor and same 16 bits 😂😂😂 built by Sony. actually gfx100ii and gfx 100sii have even more recent sensor than X2D. Please come up with other reasons for prefering Hasselblad, this one is not valid, sorry

@friendofarca6550 Ай бұрын

..do you even understand the practical impact of more bit depth ?

@BlazeFirereign 28 күн бұрын

@@EricGibaud Fujifilm are doing new things with the sensor - see Jim Kasson's excellent work figuring out what it's doing for ISO 80 - and may have adjusted the cover glass and microlens setup, but it's the same Sony IMX461 sensor found in the X2D and the first generation 100/100S.