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Over exposed in ue5 is more realistic but you need to fix the contrast and lights

The colour and saturation in 4 is much more pleasing on the eye. Weird to not have corrected this for a comparison.

0:41 I miss the eagle's shadow. Changing the light direction makes it a different video.

I found myself forgetting about comparing them to one another, but just watched unreal engine 4. Much more pleasing to the eye.

!! IMPORTANT !! Hi everyone, just want to describe that the video is meant to represent my lighting study and not a visual comparison between the 2 engines or versions of the video. It's ok for you to say which one for your eyes is better or not, but make sure to get that is only me showing you the test i did by using unreal to create a "different" type of lighting. Just to make sure the people are aware on the tech side, the original version was rendered using ue4 with Ray tracing light ( both reflection and GI ), brute force antialiasing and displacement. The tender of the original was taking more than 1 hour. My version was rendered in 5 min ( not better but a different approach) . So it means that is more accurate than lumen UE5 :). Hopefully it will be clear and thanks for the feed everyone :) P.S. I'm planning to do a technical behind the scenes to show up more how I've worked using ue5 in this scene

Love the left one. Better color and subsurface scattering

Unreal Engine 5.1 looks like a raw footage that we shoot while filming a movie. Ofcourse there’s a lot of color grading/CC and effects added to a movie before the release print is ready. So even if UE5.1 is achieving that Raw footage look that is excellent progress cause if you have that raw footage you can grade it to the cinema level easily

Besides some detail lost with the brightness here and there, the 5 looks much more realistic, it's great.

I would love to see this again with the exposure on the UE5 version turned down a bit. Great work!

1:20 Is what you are looking for. I agree with the other commenters that the UE5.1 version is a bit too much overexposed, but keep that aside. At 1:20 you can see how the light works differently. Could you get that result in UE4 - without spending days in finetuning and going back and forth between your scene and real life pictures shot in a similar environment - I don't think so. It looks great and artistically adjusted in UE4. It looks like a sunset scene while the shadows are showing more noon time. If you want to go for that look, you will forever be happy with UE4 and also UE5.1, because the tools are all still the same. But If you want to get a realistic looking result by "only" dropping Ultra Dynamic Skies into your scene, you can currently only get that with UE5 and up. Not saying the UE5.1 version happend in one click, but probably significantly less man hours were spend compared to the UE4 version which was created by a whole team.

congrats, you managed to make the ue4 looks better XD

too bright, maybe local exposure will help

Am I the only one who likes the left version more? UE5 looks more realistic, yes. But light makes it so fade and monotonous. UE4 version has more contrast and colors (red rocks, opposite light blue shadows) and it's more pleasant to watch

Not all Shaders seem to work prperly in your version. Especially subsurface scattering seems to be broken. The Eye-Material does weird stuff too... Don't think this is representative of how it should/could look in UE.1

That lighting is much more accurate in the new engine. Great comparison.

Unreal 5.1 version is more life like, but the video is too washed out, lower the lux, and also monitor calibration may help. I like the color and contrast on UE4 better. The fur on the meerkat is way better on UE 5.1. Good job of remaking in it.

Color grading in UE4 is just so good

great now they can even simulate the cataract in older people

It's always so interesting watching comparison videos.....because I saw a lot in UE4 that looked better than UE5. I'm NOT saying OVERALL UE4 looked better.... just that there was a lot that looked better.

The only thing holding it back at this point is que quality of the animation. The fact that i can pause the video at any time and it looks like an actual photograph is mindblowing

Visually. UE4 was more appealing to my eyes. Technically, UE5 was more impressive. I’d pick the UE4 version.

Holy crap left one is SO MUCH BETTER! Good job!

When we have vr displays that can be bright as sunlight, this type of lightning will be amazing.

0:38 is it just me or does UE 4 look way better here

Unreal 5 version looks like it was filmed on the hottest day in earth history. Air temperature is probably 60 celsius.

In this animation, UE4 looks more attractive, while UE5 looks more photo-realistic.

I agree fully with contrast. If you have good vision, especially something close to 20/10 then it matters. You are seeing detail without proper color.

Not sure if you just copied and pasted it in UE5 but the UE5 version needs some work, it can look a lot better than this

i like the atmosphere and ambient lighting in ue5 but i feel you could have brought back a little more saturation in the beautiful reds and blues you originally had

Incredible

The meerkats eyes in Unreal 4 look a lot more lively than Unreal 5. Still very impressive.

You should set the brightness to be brigher in UE4, then it would make sense to compare them, but now it's impossible to compare them and see what the differences are.

Reminds me of “realism” for the PS2, muting colors, overexposing light, turning up the bloom. The intended contrast was clearly achieved in UE4 and eliminated with the UE5 effects.

The animation is so cute!

can't wait for meerkat simulator 2 to release. this trailer looks awesome!!!

Everyone is talking about the render and I'm just happy the meerkat is ok. 👍

4 looks better, the over lighting takes too much from detail

dat bloom be hittin hard yo

Both look great

Watching on my mobile, and UE4 version looks better. SSS is better, contrast is better, lighting is better. Materials or maybe it's the color grading in UE5 version that makes it more realistic, but overexposed in some shots like others have mentioned.

Hmmm 5.1 looks like it has better AO and a different tonemapper. I think I prefer 5.1 actually. I cant stand the default tones of UE4. Finally looks more like the real world and not like a "video game"

Very cool

Love both

Aside from all the exposure and saturation differences other ppl mentioned, 0:58 have some issues too. Quite apparently you light the UE5 version from a realistic standpoint, but the lighting in UE4 highlights the silhouette of the Meerkat, and I think there's another point light for highlighting Meerkat's eyes. These are some important lighting choices. While it's impressive to see how good it looks with just a few lights (I assume the cave is lit only by the sun and Lumen), I think these stylistic choices should still be preserved.

I'd totally agree the colors pop less, and that might be less pleasing in a video game but this isn't a video game and the big thing is Unreal is being used now for actual stand in sets. Epic was a consultant on the last season of Mandalorian because the huge digital sets they've been championing use Unreal. The lighting is a lot more detailed when it comes to showing off materials and having that sort of dynamic range effect.

for its color to look more vibrant outside in ue5 we have to replicate something like a CPL used on cameras inside the engine those filters make leaves greener or water look more blue or transparent

is the right one supposed to be the upgrade, because the left one looks so much better to me. sharper and more vivid colors

Although 5.1 on paper looks better I would rather watch a full feature-length film in ue4

UE5 look more colourful like animation/movie whereas UE5.1 looks more realistic footage.

Both looks good.

I was so enveloped in the movie and meerkat character I didn’t even pay attention to the lighting 🤣

One thing I noticed is the darkness inside of the shell before it's broken, subsurface scattering on that seems to be off or is turned way down, otherwise very impressive!

Looking good. My biggest concern is that we lost the shadow when the eagle does its first fly by. Artistically quite important to the storytelling of the scene. Unclear if it ended up landing in a different place out of scene, or if it ended up being diffused out of being before it reached the ground.

honestly a cute demo

A good example when realistic doesn’t mean “better”

Good job, it looks worse. Maybe not over expose it in UE5.1 so we actually can compare and not just see a correctly exposed image vs a incorreclty exposed image? Just a thought.

Nice, but @ the last shot, you can clearly see UE technique of using previous frame data to light the next frame scene. The case where ambient occlusion blends in. This tecnique goes way back in times before UE4

man the URE 5 is insane, photorealistic to a whole new level. Even the detail on the fur and being able to see the eyes of the creature awesome

The most unrealistic part is how strong that eggs shell is

Artistically speaking, the scene in Unreal 4 looks more pleasing to me..... Full realism doesn't always help in a scene construction, you have to take into consideration the colors, contrast and shadows and unfortunately in Unreal 5 all this is lost because the light is too strong..... U5 is more visually capable, but here, for me, U4 pleases the eye more...

People talk about over exposure. The thing is, they aimed this to be 'camera optic realism' . What you would see if you recorded it with a (expensive) camera equipment. With raytracing added, light behaves like it should behave. Meaning, that in a very sunny desert environment, over exposure is inescapable when you would capture it with a videocamera. Unless, you do post FX editing, which affects contrast and gamma (compensation). In that regards, it's actually very realistic as this is what a camera would shoot. I understand you rather see 'cleaned up' imagery and post fx treatments on game or perhaps animation, which makes it perhaps easier to watch but it is considered less (monitor) realistic. But the goal was to make this video as realistic as possible, as if someone would actually shot this with a camera. They succeeded. Bravo.

very nice render dude

I feel like the style was just better in UE4 and the egg had a slight bit of sub surface scattering in UE4 witch UE5 needed I think UE5's rendition could have been a lot better if it was used probably.

Realistic is not allways better and beautiful - so the winner here is UE4 . Congrats :)

Honestly the more relativistic 5 looks worse then 4. Sometimes realism is not the desired effect.

Lighting is everything

Never thought it would be the shadows that I noticed more. UE5 shadows look so much more realistic, once people get used to realistic lighting like this, any software without it is going to stick out like a sore thumb.

i feel like the lighting in 5 is on point contrary to what everyone else is saying. desert gets pretty bright with no shade. 4 looks amazing but also looks like it's under the shade.

4 looks like what you'd see with the naked eye while 5 looks like what you'd see with overexposed camera footage.

Study stands for "a very well documented engine". With new animation features you will have even more study day buy day.

UE4 looks more vibrant and colorful, like a scene from a movie; whereas UE5 looks much more realistic, like a very bright and sunny day outside. Both engines for this demo are absolutely gorgeous to look at tho, make no mistake about it. 😍🔥

I was watching this with my mom , she was felling sad for the meerkat but at 1:00 she busted out laughing seeing the bird struggle Thank you for making her laugh 🙂♥️

The one on the right looks like I'm watching a black and white film sometimes. I like the left one for the most part because you can see colour.

It’s like how you wanted the lion king live action movie to look like vs what you got.

ngl I liked 4 more, “realism” doesnt instantly mean its better. 5 colors are so bleached, strong volumetric bloom kills contrast and makes shapes harder to read.

as someone who worked with meerkats before, gotta say that ue4 picture's colors/shadows look more natural to me =)

There’s a problem with the eyes at 0:38. There’s no specular highlight like in ue4 which makes the eyes look uncanny. I’m sure that’s something that can be fixed though, right?

Beside the lighting which if different we definitely see that the post process volume in UE4 which affect mood, colour, light and brightness is different than the one you’re using in UE5. Therefore it’s not possible to compare lighting between the 2 engines unless you are using a copy paste of the same post process volume. Post process volume setting and configuration can totally change the mood of a scene affecting the lighting by major value and making lighting incomparable

Of course the first thing people notice is the contrast and saturation.. But if you would watch both apart from eachoter, a good eye would soon notice that the V version is way more uniform, even tho it has a fade to it and less contrast. Let alone when it would have more contrast. More colors is not always automatically good if you're trying to create a certain atmosphere in a specific surrounding. Very well done!

UE4 looks better because it was made with care, UE5 was just turn on the technologies and "there it is"; this is a proof that graphics is not just about turning things On but taking care of them and having always an artistic sense in it.

I was about cry if the meerkat got caught I was so emotionally attached

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UE5.1 does look for realistic, but UE4 looks more visibly coherent to me. Interesting stuff.

UR 5 looks more realistic

Now you can desaturate, wow

Wow

UE4 looks cinematic, meanwhile UE5 looks realistic. Creator chooses.

UE4 looks better here, in ue5 you have excesed light?

5 nicely captures a look of a sunny day. I wonder if it is possible in 4.

0:38 this shot speeks for itself. Look at the eyes.

I like the one on the left.

So badically we will be getting another 5 to 10 years of ue4 clones games aka improved and calling 5.1 now. Just fcking great

The image on rhe left looks so much better IMO, realistic vs the soft, clearly CGI image on the right.

I like the one on the left. Which is that?

That was very lovely though

Would love to know the resources being used on both. Ur4 doesn’t look this good out in the wild

They both have their strengths and weaknesses.

I don't know y both looking better than each other 😅

Shocking to not have corrected the ue4 for the comparison