Yep. This, this right here.

Great recommendation! I was looking at the Pedersoli which is very nice but being 100% authentic these are very appealing

@@smudgepost The Pedersoli reproductions in general are some of finest commercially produced rifles available. I personally own a couple, one a Pedersoli Brown Bess and a Civil War Southern 1862 Richmond rifled musket.

Its up there with the British Holland & Holland

Just proving the old adage... You get what you pay for.

Any online information about it? thanks

@@D33Lux yes there is information on line about it probably under the quigley buffalo rifle match . in Forsyth montana. Takes place every year on father's day weekend . want friends and I go there a week in advance we have a ball. Look it up and go ,it's free to camp out there...

Wow that’s an interesting story, who had the gun originally?

well im very glad youre happy, but 10 years ? damn, I bought one made in 2007 but never used from cabelas for $1700 about a month or two ago.. made by cimarron though, but when you compare it next to the shiloh my friend has there is virtually no difference other than the color of the wood stock, the action is the same, the fitting of the wood to the stock is perfect.. its deff no pedersoli.. pedersoli always has poor fitting to the wood and metal on their guns.. This one is a Gem.. Mine was made by an italian company not in business anymore ati or something i forgot off hand. but i got it by mistake... went in one day because i was bored and it arrived that day 2 hours prior.. i bought it immediatly.. funny thing is i watched quigley down under that night.. was deff not expecting that id own one a few hours later

@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 that is a great story. Thanks! I agree with you about Pedersoli's generally poor quality, altho I do have one of their caplock Howdahs in 20g / .61 smoothbore. I shoot the *shyte* out of it and don't worry about damaging the finish. Full Ghost and the Darkness mode. Such a fun gun Anyway, that Shiloh 1874 gun will hold its value way better than an Italian clone of course, not that I'm against the Italian clones. I'm a huge fan of Uberti's guns, especially the reasonably priced centerfire revolvers. I live in Montana and I have been to Shiloh. You could absolutely bottle the scent of their workshops and sell it. I'd love to own one of their 1874 military models, although I'm not going to pay close to four grand for it. I think their guns are worth the price, just not one I'm going to pay for that specific rifle, iconic as it is.

@@milkapeismilky5464 the prices are for ammo and guns.. i dont think my italian 1874 will ever decrease in value.. just sayin. You cab see it on my page if you want.. I took the scope off it. Someone removed the venear for the scope but i put it back on.. but still. I shoot it as often as i buy anmo. I have a 20ga howdsg as well cwp lock.. i shoot it every now and theb.. deff fub to shoot and people at the range think its really cool. I want a nornal double side by side black powder . I love black power guns

Wow it took 10 yrs buy 1900. Dallor gun .u sound bad off might not want waist money on gun

Jaa reely

.45/70?

@@dukecraig2402 Yes Sir. Loaded using Lyman dies with a wax carton "gas check".

@@williamemerson1799 About 20 years ago a friend of mine and myself stumbled across what's not only the most accurate .45/70 load but without a doubt the most accurate load I've ever shot in ANYTHING. Single holes from 5 shot group's at 100 yards off the bench, not colverleafs but absolute single holes, both from a Cape Outfitter's Sharpes which was about as junky as they come with a bore that was absolutely black from pitting from the breech to the muzzle and an 1866 Winchester reissue both with iron sights, the stock buckhorn on the Winchester and a flip up ladder on the Sharpes repo that had loose parts that rattled, we couldn't believe our eyes when we tried this load. We'd been loading and shooting different bullets and powders all day, my friend kept wanting to try Hercules Unique which is a powder I absolutely hate because it's always left so much lead and powder fouling in everything I've ever tried it in I'd just want to scream trying to scrub it out from .45 ACP to .45 Long Colt and even .38/40, but man did it work beautifully in .45/70, accurate light years beyond everything else and I couldn't believe how clean it was, of course it can only be used with cast bullets but it doesn't require a gas check. At the end of the day as one last attempt I relented and we loaded with the Unique; Penn Bullets 365 gr Spire Point bullet, 16 grs Unique with a ⅝ths inch dacron filler, CCI magnum large rifle primer, the flat nosed center punch that's typically used with a .45/70 cartridge must be taken out of the seating die and one used for a pointed bullet like one from a .30/06 seating die installed in it's place. We loaded 5 cartridges and after firing the first shot I ask him "Is it on the paper?" (He was spotting from over my shoulder with a spotting scope on a tripod), he said "yea" so I fired the other 4 shots, after the 5th shot I turned around and ask him how the group looked, he was walking away shaking his head and said "Look for yourself", after the kind of luck we'd been having all day I expected to see what had been par for the course which was about a 3" group average for all the different powder/bullet combinations we'd been trying, when I looked through the scope and saw a single hole on the paper I looked at him and said "Please tell me the last 4 went through the same hole." to which he replied "I watched them fly through it". Then we loaded 5 more and tried it with my Winchester with fixed buckhorn sights, to my absolute amazement it did the same thing, 5 rounds through the same hole. It's every shooter and loaders dream to do that and after all the different cartridges I'd loaded for in my life it turned out to be the oldest one that did it, not something modern or even an 06 but an 1873 cartridge. Since then I've had people at shooting ranges accuse me of firing the last shots of a group wide of the entire target to make it look like a single hole group, then I tell them to watch through a scope and they can't believe what they see when the last 4 fly through the hole from the first round, I've won more $20 bets from strangers on the range than you'd believe.

@@dukecraig2402 Well just DAMN! I'm gonna go sit in the corner.👍

@@williamemerson1799 The people I've turned onto that combo can't believe it, even after showing them at the range they thought there was some kind of slight of hand thing going on and I was just trying to hustle people, but then when they tried it themselves they got the same kind of results. I tried using the same basic formula with flat nose bullets for the sake of not having to shoot them one at a time through my lever gun, the day we ran across this combo we took 5 bullets and put them in the lathe in my buddy's garage to knock the tips flat and they shot the same way, so I bought a box of .458 dia flat nose bullets and much to my chagrin the group opened back up to almost 3", I was scratching my head trying to figure out why when I put down one of the bullets onto a piece of glass I had on my reloading bench and noticed that it wasn't sitting straight up and down but instead leaned over to one side, then when I touched it it'd wobble around, after examining it closely I noticed that there was a raised line around the long axis of it and across the nose from the mold halves, so I took 10 of them over to his garage and trued up the noses in the lathe and presto, right back to single holes again. The reason that combo works so well all has to do with the axis of the bullet remaining in alignment with the axis of the barrels bore, when trying the same thing but with slower stick powders the group would break back up to around 3", what I figured out was happening with the slower powders is once the bullet hits the rifling ahead of the chamber it stops, since the .45/70 isn't a necked cartridge it relies entirely on the rim to hold the cartridges' axis in alignment with the axis of the barrels chamber and bore, when the bullet hits the rifling and stalls the back end is still in the cartridge and it kicks in any given direction and then the bullets axis loses its alignment with the bores axis and is swagged into the rifling that way, this introduces a wobble into the bullet which degrades it's accuracy. The pointed (semi pointed actually) spire tipped bullet being seated with the type of center punch from an 06 type die makes the axis of the bullet perfectly in alignment with the axis of the chamber and the barrel, then a fast powder like Unique blows the bullet out of the cartridge and straight into the rifling without it stalling and the back end kicking off in any direction causing the bullets axis to be lost in alignment with the axis of the bore, that's why it's such an accurate load. Give it a try sometime, I'll bet you'll be happy with the results.

Sure wish Tom Selleck would come out and give us 1 more quigley.... I know he is retired, but damn, just 2 hours of acting and shooting that big rifle.

Did you get it here? How long did it take you to get one?

I ordered my second Shiloh this past June. Shiloh is at 18 months backlog

Way cool.

Dang, all this 4140 I've been machining over the years. Always thought it was chrome moly.

They are available. The movie original is now owned by Brownells.

U red Indian then if not u ar foreign