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Absolutely Reimann!

Yes and a true artist and not chasing fame and fortune.

like chess...

I wonder though. I feel like it was her personal way of escaping the rigors blue collar work and social compliance.

Thank you John, completely agree with you. Cheers for watching, peace!

Spot on Sir.

interesting

Thank you!

While no formal training in a commercial sense she had Jeanne Bertrand,

Thank you, completely agree with you when you say Vivian Maier was a great photographer, end of the story. That pretty much summarises the video ahah

I wanted to include that in the video because I've read that indeed Jeanne Bertrand possibly taught Vivian how to take photos and specially portraits / landscapes which were mainly what she shot at first. And it is true that according to a 1930 census Vivian and her mum were living with Jeanne, however, I also fond the opposite, that Jeanne didn't influence her and possibly that those are just speculations. So I guess I have to go with "incognito" on that one, there's so many things we don't know. If I had to say wether Jeanne helped or not I would possibly say 60% yes, but because I wasn't 100% confident on that I didn't mention it in the video.

@@TatianaHopper ,'' But even if Bertrand was an early influence, it must also be noted that Bertrand was a portrait photographer. Vivian first picked up a camera in the southern French Alps in about 1949. The photographs she took were controlled portraits and landscapes. The odds are strong that Vivian might have been taught by Jeanne Bertrand" www.vivianmaier.com/about-vivian-maier/

@@jgaffney567 yes that’s pretty much what I was saying with my previous comment, I think it’s simply an amazing detail adding even more to Vivian’s story.

Thank you for watching Rosaria!

Very true!

Thank you Anthony appreciate it. And agree with you, she was a lone wolf and a very talented one.

Thank you Sammy, appreciate you!

Perfect timing indeed!

@@TatianaHopper yeah! I love your channel btw. Grainydays sent me :)

Well, morally, I think it had to do with the fact that she possibly might've not wanted her work to be shown or published. Plus it is the artist's right to edit their work and what Maloof and the other collector did was to publish sequences of images that she might've not possibly be okay with. They were not edited or reviewed by her, so it means it was all done without the artists' consent, meaning, exhibitions, prints and books were sold without a consent and proper authorisation as well. Needless to say, the collectors' intentions are questioned because prior to this "Vivian enterprise," they weren't really connected with photography on a serious level (galleries, photographers, photography lovers...), and so it is speculated wether they saw a "golden opportunity" here, especially because her negatives were found by Maloof two years before she passed away. Also legally, you can own the negatives of someone's archive / portfolio but you do not own the rights to commercialise the images, which is why lawsuits were brought against collectors some I believe by the Vivian Maier estate which was run by I believe distant heirs and other executors that were essentially not okay with this propaganda of her work. And so the collectors had to settle with them financially. And to conclude, one of the biggest issues I believe {from what I read} is that Vivian died in poverty and she struggled with money, the lack of it, for many years, which makes it all even more questionable, although to me personally I believe its just sad, that someone else might now take financial advantage of her work, although it also highlights that she did it all because she truly loved photography. Unfortunately, these are the ways of the world. And I hope this in a way helped understanding the controversies surrounding her work.

Thanks for the well reasoned and thoughtful response T. I agree about the legal and ethical issues being very questionable(the rights of her family especially). But wether she intended for them to be seen or not, the world is a better place with those images in it. When all of this news broke years ago, some critics questioned the artistic value of her work. That’s more what I was referring to and what I couldn’t understand at the time. All of these issues make the enjoyment of her work bittersweet for me I guess. I’m no art critic but I think her work ranks up there with street/documentary legends. And thank you for these videos, I really enjoy your artist profiles!

@@TatianaHopper T, I was going to make your point about her wanting to have her work published. That came out in another article I read about her within the last couple of days where the point about her being a very private person was made quite strongly. Vivian had been nanny to one of the people interviewed in the article. Having said that, I very much admire her images and only wish that my film (film - never analogue, thank you very much!) images were anywhere near as good as hers. Keep up the good work, G in NZ.

@@TatianaHopper I remember there was a Vivian Maier exhibition at my local art museum a few years back. I loved seeing her work, but I also felt guilty about being there for these reasons that you brought up.

@@oceansquatch1481 completely agree with you, I’m not art critic either but I guess that her work speaks more to me than some other that has been heavily praised by the media / art world. Appreciate you for watching and supporting the channel! Peace ✌🏻

Cheers!

Thank you!

Thank you, appreciate it, and just checked Sergio's work. Quickly added him to my list!

Thank you so much, appreciate it, I did try a new approach to this video so I'm happy its getting positive feedback, for sure will try and bring more of this. And Robert Frank / Mary Ellen Mark are for sure on my list.

Yeeey, cheers for that. Appreciate you!

Thank you Martin, appreciate the support. All the best!

Thank you, she indeed is among them greatest street photographers ever!

Thank you! 🤍

Thank you so much I really appreciate the support and the kind words, all the best my friend! :)

Thank you!

Thank you Marina that’s lovely and I’ve donated to Age Uk I’m aware of what you guys do and I want to thank you for that. All the best 🙏🏻

Thank you for watching George! :)

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Appreciate it!

Thank you Alan, I totally agree with you!

Thank you for watching! Cheers!

Absolutely Michael, meeting her and her work is a humbling experience, to remind us why we do what we do.

Absolutely Joseph, her work is really amazing.

Thank you Craig!

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Thank you Chris!

Go for it! She is an amazing photographer!

Thank you Orlando!

Thank you Rich!

Thank you for watching Dean!

Thank you for watching Suzette!

So nice of you thanks for the kind words 🙏🏻 and for watching!

Cheers!

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Thank you for watching and taking your time to comment, appreciate it :)

Thank you Agustín!

Thank you Fletcher!

Also Gary Winogrand, he died suddenly, so a little different, but he left behind about 200,000 undeveloped images. Both were addicted, they just HAD to shoot.

I don't think she could afford to print them out. The process of looking and seeing and taking was more important than the final image.

Hey Mike! Came across your comment just now so apologies for not replying sooner thank you so much for your comment! I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel and that you’re happy to do your thing, that’s what’s most important. All the very best to you 💫🤍

Absolutely Juliette, she’s a prime example of regardless of status and popularity she still did what she loved the most which is the most important thing !