Isn't Model LX the underrated one? Well, I guess both of them are underrated.

I think the F one is the most underrated I literally used it 2 times in all my gameplay.

@@JplayerBlr To be honest, I like using model F especially the buster edit function. And in advent, it is more useful if using Ashe since her bombs have more utility.

@@ventusse Its the fastest way to beat the first phase of the final boss as Grey though, so I'm hard pressed to say its more useful for Ashe than Grey.

@@TotallyCluelessGamer I think for the general gameplay, Ashe is a little bit better than Grey. Though I would admit, Grey's model H, model L, and model ZX is better than Ashe's.

Guess you have to be good enough with the Biometal to truly master it against bosses.

Model P is my Favorite Biometal

those people just have massive skill issues

Hee Ho hey, nice pfp.

model x is the best biometal because double buster total damage

Model X may be the easiest to use but its damage is very much outclassed by ZX with some spins/combos, HX and even PX with overdrive/combos, and LX/FX with their elemental weaknesses

It can't hit Serpent 2 's second phase tho

@@altabalder were you not watching the video at all? i mean he’s clearly showing how to hit serpent.

@@ralpharrieta2633 What? I'm talking about model X. Were you not paying attention? Try to read the comment of this Calvin Abad guy, cause, y'know, I'm replying to him.

I always already had a few ideas for improvement to PX, but I just started ZX Advent the other day for the first time and frankly I am a bit.. horrified by what they've done to model P hahaha

@@Meta_XZ After watching you, I tried to "no damage" some bosses with Model P... don't even need to say how painful is to deal with aerial bosses. Ground bosses are ok, I guess. Only Model H, ZX and A can deal damage consistently. ZX is so OP that I don't have fun using it, fortunately Model H is more balanced. Even though I miss Brokenado :p

Now I am curious how you'll deal woth the nerf. Losing Overdrive is not had but with The Shuriken being a Grey exclusive I wonder how you'll assassinate bosses with Ashe. Wish Ashe got the Shuriken instewd hahaha.

@@HajimotoSaito Model P is just so bad I don't think I'll be making any cool videos with it anytime soon. The loss of overdrive is pretty bad and even with Grey having the shuriken, in ZXA it takes so long to charge (lvl2 instead of lvl1) that it's too slow to even combo into it from the kunai. And Ashe's shield would be pretty neat if the orbitals combod into each other cause you would still be able to combo them with kunai, but, the first orbital deals its tiny damage then triggers s lol. It's really depressing... I even used action replay codes to make it so I can actually combo kunai into shuriken but even then it's just not as interesting without overdrive, shield, and shadow dash

@@Meta_XZ Oh damn we both started playing Advent around the same time

When I made this I completely forgot about Omega and the MMZ bosses lol. But to be honest, PX vs Omega isn't very interesting anyway since there's not a lot you can do besides camp him out with occasional combos

When i was i kid this model was my favorite,i could beat omega only with that lol

​@@lu24cusi31 Same I remember beating every boss (Omega too) with just model P and got extremely addicted to the game because of it.

Yes, unfortunately without the destructive power of Model HX or the elemental advantages of the other models it doesn't really have any place in the speedrun. But it can certainly hold its own throughout most of the game

The shield absorbs the basic yellow energy shot that most enemies fire

@@Meta_XZ oh,cause first time use,i'm run straight into Pandora Projectile

Yeah it's not the best, the only other thing I know it absorbs are the purple things that Serpent 2 shoots to slow you down

@@Meta_XZ well indeed cause the Shuriken is strong by it selves

Shuriken can be tough because it lingers for a moment and has a moderate hitbox that sometimes goes slightly inside the boss, and it and kunai can be risky because one or two mistakes will easily bring you to lv2 or lv1. But the relatively low profile of his moves can also be helpful sometimes, like you can usually attack Hurricaune without any worry. For some of the bosses though you have to really know when you can and cant hit them and sometimes stick with only attacking when you know it's safe. Like Fistleo if I want to be really safe I wait for him to heal or use the energy balls then shoot him from behind (though even from behind his hitbox is weird while healing so i might avoid shuriken). Another tip is that if you throw them while dashing the kunai will be even lower. For purprill, the safest times to attack him are while he's climbing (watch out for when his arm goes down for a frame before he starts going across) and when he goes WOOHOOO and runs across the room (his arms might look vulnerable but trust me it's safe). Flammole is an utter turd, if I'm being safe then the only time I attack is when he's digging and his tail sticks up for a second. I think he's also open when standing or walking across the room but I'm not comfortable with that yet. You can also throw shurikens at the top of his head like in the video but it's an extremely small window and it has to be when he's guaranteed not to use a move where he moves his arms (so I mostly only try when he uses flamethrower). Hivolt is another one you just have to know where his wings appear in his animations. The best move to attack is when his claws are rotating around him shooting at you because it's pretty much impossible to hit his weakspot from the front (though if he's about to move forward make sure to aim low so his wings dont pass through the shuriken), but you don't need to solely rely on that. When he appears in the corner before each move you can throw a shuriken but it's very risky if you don't know when it's safe because for some of his moves he wraps his wings around himself for a few frames which will get hit by the shuriken. When he uses lasers, you can try shuriken loops like I did in the video though you're gonna want to practice those a bit. Protectos can be a little annoying but is definitely workable. Remember that he follows the floor you're on, so go on the bottom floor when he's too high up so hes on the bottom floor to hit his face with kunai (with low energy this is the best strategy) or on the second floor so a jump shuriken will hit him; just dont throw the shuriken while he's jumping. The water bosses are pretty simple, for Lurerre you mostly have to rely on shuriken so make sure not to throw it while she's descending or else it'll hit her head (and remember that you can damage the big fish when its mouth is open), and for Leganchor there's not much to do besides throw shuriken into his side like in the video

@@Meta_XZ Bro, THANK YOU, you carry the honor of the Phantom clan best!

Model PX has Shadow Dash while in overdrive which lets you dash through attacks, yeah. It's to make up for his overdrive not applying an element to his attacks like the other models have

Meta_X Ohhh,okay. I should keep that in mind on my next playthrough. I’ve still got a lot to learn about the Biometals in ZX

Do you mean before releasing the shuriken? Overdrive gives your moves double damage (though not the multihits after the initial hit of shuriken vs bosses)

Do you want to make it overpowered beyond belief?

@@GameboyFanatic Nah, not as much as I used to. I now think it's fine as it is, with the only things I would add being its attacks erasing shots, the Shadow Armor high jump, and the Chameleon Sting invincibility during the overdrive.

Not really, I actually just forgot about him but also the fight isn't very interesting to watch anyway

@@Meta_XZ ah ok

I've done it on Twitch but I didn't know if people would be interested in watching it on KZfaq. Maybe I'll upload if I get a clean run at some point

@@Meta_XZ recorded ? have the link?

Sorry it's been more than 30 days so whatever vods got deleted, but my past runs have been rough anyway

Luckily they're usually low enough to avoid his weakspot

Usually, yes

Sick, thanks 😊 just followed on Twitter :)

Yup it's a classic kamehameha laser struggle. If you don't know about that then yeah human form is the best way to avoid it if you don't want to attempt a perfectly timed jump

I forgot lol It's not a very interesting fight with PX anyway, if I manage to get a good one in the future though I'll upload it

Yes, but I realized how good it actually was in the first ZX in general, so I changed it.

Yeah, in a normal run it's a good opportunity to get in a ton of hits with ZX's spin slash (just need good spacing) or knock him down with an overdrive LX slash

@@Meta_XZ Now getting level 4 victory on her will be super easy with that knowledge

Ayo bet

@@ScreamyngYoshi hes only good at one stationary boss and maybe another I'm forgetting

@@just-mees He can be good for boss battles if you know what to do. Unfortunately, it seems a lot of FX boss footage on KZfaq is just spamming two shots with no substance or thought put behind them.

Not from a Jedi

It happens automatically whenever PX dashes while in overdrive (check your control menu to map overdrive, default button is A)

@@Meta_XZ yeah i figured it out while fighting Omega , thanks anyway

Didn't do the intro bosses or secret bosses, sorry, the fights didnt seem interesting enough (though I straight up forgot about Omega, oops, woulda had him at the end)

I didn't know about Action Replay codes at the time so I didn't do the intro bosses (also didn't consider the Area N bosses). But most of those bosses aren't especially interesting as PX anyway

Understandable

Sorry model P is astronomically worse in ZXA and even with my mods I'm just not certain it'll be super interesting, it might happen someday though

If he uses the harpoons and puts up ice you can still get up on the wall by walljumping from the highest slide-able point on the wall below then frozen part