Mega Reef Battery Backup
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Күн бұрынIn this episode I want to share with you the battery backup system I have chosen for my Dream Reef Tank build.
Power outages are an absolute nightmare, and whilst they don't happen too often here (thankfully) even once a year can be enough to completely destroy a well established reef tank.
I've long wanted to implement a battery backup solution that would give me peace of mind and ensure that my dream reef tank doesn't have its fate resting in the hands of the power companies!
I'll explain the thought process I went through to get to this solution what it costs, how it works and how long it will keep my tank going in the event of a power outage. We'll look at Tesla Powerwalls, Generac Gas generators, Ecotech battery backups, DIY solutions and of course, the Victron Multiplus 2 inverter.
Chapter markers:
00:00 Intro
01:45 Why I want a battery backup
04:00 Ecotech Battery Backup
05:14 Tesla Powerwall
08:34 Generac Gas Generator
11:52 DIY Battery option
13:20 Victron Inverter
14:53 What setup I went for
16:46 How many volts?
19:20 The batteries I chose
20:44 The inverter I chose
21:33 How long will the battery last?
24:44 Testing the setup
27:16 Installed System
30:20 Conclusion
@johnwilson3527 2 жыл бұрын
well sam I have ordered the components identical to yours and have teed up the son-in-law who is a sparky , I wasn't going to as the longest we have lost power where I live in vic is 2hrs and its usually under 1. I have a portable generator and that saved the day when we were out for over 6hrs, when the storms struck about 3-4 wks ago, there were people without power for over 6 days. Your battery backup should buy me enough time to get home and setup the generator, or organize someone else to set it up, regardless of what im up to . Thankyou for doing the leg work and sharing it.
@ParkersReef 2 жыл бұрын
You won’t be disappointed mate! If you need a hand with any of it, just yell out! Make sure your son in law puts a safety switch on the output from the inverter. Otherwise you can create quite a dangerous environment..
@johnwilson3527 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef will do thanks
@Dave-mt6qe 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks for continuing to share and making us jealous!
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Lazarusthefishboy 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thanks sharing, Sam! tbh I enjoyed every second! Keep up the amazing work, mate!!! 👏
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!!!
@frozenmouse76 3 жыл бұрын
Very neat set up
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ProducerReef 3 жыл бұрын
Parker, U always come with so much knowledge with your videos. This is big here and just learned so much. Thank you.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that mate, I don’t profess to be an expert in this field, but I did a lot of research into it to ensure I got the best result possible for my money :)
@green3760 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, great detail
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!!
@rosspullen1124 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Can’t wait to see a run through on the plumbing
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
yeah not long now, literally working on plumbing as I type!
@gustavonouer147 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing system !!!! Congratulations.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@ArrickthaRed 3 жыл бұрын
This was a topic not many reefers consider. This was very informative. Thanks for sharing.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@calv83 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, been following this build and this was something I’ve been thinking about for my new home and tank. This is perfect, the investigations and prices was very informative. Great work!
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful
@tristanlambert2258 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Very informative for the reef user application.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@KingsAquariumsAndAntWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@wigneshwaranganesh7575 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Sam 👍
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!!
@ReefNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Great video mate! Totally awesome solution! Very coool! I am running a computer UPS on my current tank, which is fine for the size and what i have hooked up, but I think an upgrade will be in order for the next tank, your solution here looks really sweet.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers man, suited my scenario really well 👍🏻
@kjstorm7601 3 жыл бұрын
I really love this build. I can't wait till I can get a reef tank! keep up the good work
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kjstorm7601 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef Can't wait to see some corals and fish in there!
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Will be a little while till then (want a nice long cycle) but will be worth the wait :)
@aarondeane6934 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Sam
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@jeffweidemann927 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome research Sam, really appreciate this info. Currently running a simple battery to power return and wave pumps. When and if I trade up to a Cade, this has been on my mind. Thanks
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was of interest mate!
@Reefahholic Ай бұрын
Nice backup!
@ParkersReef Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Reefahholic Ай бұрын
@@ParkersReef Have a look at the EcoFlow units. The River 2 pro, and Delta 2 Max if you have another tank that needs easy backup. Plug and play with LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) batteries. 😉
@louise7141 3 жыл бұрын
Man that is class. This is becoming a bit too special now mate. You are making me hate my system one video at a time! 🤣 On a serious note. Very informative video. 👍
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha thanks, I think?!
@Ken_James_SV 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video. Every Aquarium needs a battery backup. It means your Fish's lives. Fortunately, because I only have a 4 foot aquarium, I only needed a much smaller system and I have installed a CyberPower VP1600ELCD to which I have connected my Fluval Plant 3.0 - 145cm light, 300w heater, Air pump, and large internal Filter and it will run them for about 3 hours in a blackout. What I like about the CyberPower units is they have a readout on the LCD screen of how long a battery runtime you get according to what you have connected. The unit cost less than $300 but does has a short runtime. I am also in Victoria Australia 👍
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done mate, that will work well 👍🏻
@leehempson9408 3 жыл бұрын
Nice neat solution Sam, due to good power supply and temperate climate here in uk using the Ecotech solution to provide return pump and power head cover for a few hours!!
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that mate!
@TheDancing0wind 3 жыл бұрын
If you are intrested maximize power runtime connect DC pumps directly to batteries. Obviously AC pumps will not work on DC - you need an inverter but inverters are a big hit on efficiency. Also not all inverters will play nice with AC pumps. AC pumps are designed to work with nice smooth sine wave AC input. Not stepped wave approximations cheap inverters produce. You need true sine wave inverter. Also 4 LiFePO4 cells ~= 1 12V acid led battery. Only lighter, more powerful, more capacity and more longevity. You can even use it as a plug and play replacement for standard lead batteries, but you do miss out on ~20% capacity.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that will work, but only if your batteries are next to the tank. DC doesn’t travel distance very efficiently. This inverters is a pure sine wave output, it’s Victron, one of the best in the business. Lithium phosphate batteries are great. Just very expensive and weight isn’t a consideration for this install
@thereefaholic 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I always believe that if one is taking the plunge into a “dream” reef tank, the requirement for a generator is a must have. Weather it is a whole house or a fill up and use as needed. That being said a $700-$1000(US) investment in a 3kw UPS makes sense. I run my entire system for up to 4 hours. Plenty of time to get home and crank up the portable generator and the UPS will filter the power.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
That’s it, gets the job done for long enough to work out plan b
@edstar81 3 жыл бұрын
cool system mate
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@firsttimereefertv1588 3 жыл бұрын
Just the video i was waiting for haha
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
thought you might be interested!
@Cliffepoos 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, GATV is excellent. I went for a gen set which I have to set up and turn on myself, but that's OK for me as I'm retired and usually around or close by.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
still a bloody good solution (Y)
@justanotherfaceinthecrowd 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video mate, I’ve been thinking about what to do for my new tank build, and this seems perfect, although here in the UK we don’t really get power cuts very often, in fact I can’t remember the last one that didn’t last more than a few minutes tbh, but I do want to cover all eventualities. The exact same system is available here so I will now do some reading ✌🏻
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we never used to get them all that often here either, although the last couple of summers have been a bit of a worry. Ultimately, I don’t like the idea of my reef at the mercy of someone else. This covers me in the unfortunate event of a power outage without too much money :)
@justanotherfaceinthecrowd 3 жыл бұрын
Parkers Reef exactly, seems a lot of money to invest on a 1% chance but when you think how much time and money is invested in a fully stocked large tank, it falls into insignificance. Looking forward to seeing this develop mate, although your buddy at FTRtv has set somewhat of a precedent for aquascaping imo ✌️
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
David’s aquascape is lovely! Hopefully the superglue method holds up over time though. I’ll have something nice, don’t worry :)
@graememcleod1751 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see this bad boy filled up
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@graememcleod1751 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef can't be to long now with all that stunning plumbing and the super sexy sump
@ReefingwithO 3 жыл бұрын
Until last year, I’ve line in Brooklyn, NY for 25 years and only experienced 1 power outage and that was for the entire city. Last year year I had one and it killed my nano and almost killed my 75 gallon. I gotta get some of those Ecotech battery backup.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
They’re rare, but can be a huge problem!!
@FranklinDattein 3 жыл бұрын
Legend!
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Franklin!
@fry04u 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing on how much the quote was for the genie install 😱
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah ridiculous... the mobs are used to working on government jobs I think 😂😂😂
@fry04u 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef 😂 yeah use to charging whatever. My electrician only charged is 1k to install our ATS to the box & genie with documentationto to those who needs it & labelling.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s all it should be! The generac needs gas too which complicates it, but surely not that much 😂
@fry04u 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef 100% mate.
@matthewking6509 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mate sparky in vic here (northern) hit me up if you need any questions answered . But a generator with a change over switch for a dedicated tank circuit is actually a really cost effective way to do this. Your solution is a good one just $$$$$
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reaching out! Can only imagine your power backup as a sparky!!
@lunes-1 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@ParkersReef 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers :)
@martijnvanbeek4387 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! Just wondering what'll happen to them batteries if there's some flooding of rain/ storm....
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah fair question, thankfully our garage is up hill, so shouldn’t be an issue. I do have them up on some rubber tiles to be safe though :)
@PabloTBrave Жыл бұрын
Victon 48v systems can and do power entire houses around the world , not just fish tanks they works best with solar or in regions that have cheap rate off peak electricity
@ParkersReef Жыл бұрын
Sure can!
@johnbrand1893 3 жыл бұрын
Good video Sam 👍 I can see plumbing to tank and sump, is it all done, or are you still working on it ? Is that the next video? 👍🏴
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished it last night mate, video next week :)
@BC-fy1wn 3 жыл бұрын
Those quotes sound like here in KY,USA,every worker has 4 PhD's and 80 years experience (WELL!!!they think they do ,anyway). Stay safe Melbourne-ites,Doc BC
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha yeah, I’m all for making a living - but it did seem like price gouging
@shoehornO 3 жыл бұрын
Great video did, you think about having the solar wired to the Victron so I can charge the battery in the day time in case of a prolonged power outage?
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thought about it, but I believe there are some legalities around that which I wasn’t interested in dealing with. Realistically, this setup can power my “essentials” for a day or more, if the power is going to be out that long - it gives me time to look into a longer term solution :p
@mingwu3443 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing you didn't mention when you were talking about the battery formula - depth of discharge on lead acid batteries is usually recommended to be set at 50 percent of maximum capacity. Did you manually change the settings in the Victron app or just went with the defaults for low battery cut-off?
@ParkersReef 2 жыл бұрын
Victron defaults with sealed lead acid settings, but you can log in and change them to your battery specifications. Yes, if I was to do this setup again today - I would use lithium batteries instead, I just didn’t have budget for them at the time
@bluereef9530 3 жыл бұрын
I spent about $100 on 4 battery air pumps that used 2 D batteries that last 24 hours. I was without power for 8 days. Didn't lose a fish or sps coral. The key was temperature which the house stood cool even in heat wave Tank in basement. I going generator, But regular battery pumps was a life saver
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are good, especially if you can be home to get them in place 👍🏻
@glenbuyer8738 3 жыл бұрын
8 days wtf, do you live in Afghanistan?
@larryneeranat8077 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going through all the options and pricing - really helpful. Just one question - if you were to need to run a generator due to a long outage, would you be able to charge the batteries with the generator while the batteries are connected to your Multiplus?
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly can! If we were to be facing a long outage I can charge the batteries either via a generator or solar without needing to interfere with the solution installed :)
@TheofficialEsmvids 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef my solar will only work when it had grid power so unless your is different having the batteries only do fish circuit the solar may not work. I know some knewer ones can but not many.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is correct. That is one of the reasons why I went this setup over a battery connected directly to my solar inverter.
@UltraReefReseller 3 жыл бұрын
For about $4k, I had a Cummins 17KW natural gas generator installed...power goes out, it runs the whole house, along with the reef tanks.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
That’d be ideal 👏🏻
@UltraReefReseller 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef I watched the part about you getting quotes...and I understand. I live in the mountains and getting anyone to come out to do anything is difficult. When it comes time to buy new batteries, I would revisit the idea and try getting some fresh quotes. Good luck!
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Fresh batteries will only be $1k and shouldn’t be for 5 years, so it’ll be hard to beat that. Plus by then, batteries will be cheaper again and generators will likely be more expensive :(
@Marinetuck220 3 жыл бұрын
Beers cold #1 lol
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Priorities!!!
@fishstix1988 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to the inverter that you got?
@ParkersReef 2 жыл бұрын
Sure it's a Victron Multiplus 2 48/5000: www.victronenergy.com/inverters-chargers/multiplus-ii
@M0JHN 3 жыл бұрын
Have I factored in that lead acid batteries should not be used below 50% their capacity. A great option if you haven’t considered it would be for Lithium phosphate batteries that can be depleted to 99% approx. But yes they are significantly more expensive.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, lithium are great - just so expensive still!
@M0JHN 3 жыл бұрын
That’s for sure! Hopefully soon they come down in price.
@robertverzin1235 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam. I notice you have your tank running off a separate fuse in your home’s fuse box. Do you have it running off a single fuse or do you have more than one fuse/circuit dedicated to the tank ? Thanks
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
I have a dedicated circuit to the tank and I also use a general outlet, so in essence - I have two circuits to the tank
@robertverzin1235 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef thanks Sam. I’ve got a sparky working on a separate line for me this week. I was always worried that a “bung” toaster would trip out my whole tank 🤣 Thanks for the reply.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Dedicated circuit is great. Especially when it has a battery backup ;)
@robertverzin1235 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef yeah. Need one of those too 😩
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertverzin1235 such a good thing, seemed like a lot of money for a “what if” bit of gear, but when the power did go out it was so good to see the reef carry on like nothing was wrong
@fiziksgeek3562 Жыл бұрын
I am investigating something similar for the new 290 peninsula I am setting up. One thing I didn't see in your calculation for run time is depth of discharge. You can't run a battery from full to empty charge and expect it to last long. I've read you get about 80% on lithium ion, and 50% on gel or agm, or what have you lead acid batteries. Did you take this into account? And have you ever done any testing to see how long your batteries last in a simulated power outage?
@ParkersReef Жыл бұрын
yeah that will vary on the battery chemistry you choose. Lithium should be good to 0%. Sealed lead acid is really only good to 50%. I haven't done a simulated test, but I have had a couple of 4-5 hour outages and when the power was restored, the victron was only on charge for a short time before switching back to float. Gave me confidence that it will handle 10 hours without too much issue.
@fiziksgeek3562 Жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef Appreciate the response! Love your tank overall. My understanding is that depth of discharge has an effect on battery life. They consider life of the battery when it can only stored 80% of its original capacity. The higher the depth of discharge the shorter the life of thr battery. Lithium will get way more cycles than any lead acid, but of course they cost way more. You get one, maybe 1.5 lithium batteries for what you paid for all 4 of the AGMs. I guess at the end of the days it's a cost calculation. Replace lead acid batteries more often, or pony up the funds for lithium batteries at the beginning!
@ParkersReef Жыл бұрын
@@fiziksgeek3562 yep spot on! Lithium is getting better and cheaper by the day - so I just went for lead acid for now, will "upgrade" in a couple years :)
@tariqj06 3 жыл бұрын
Does the system run your pumps at a lower power? With the DIY or ecotech battery backup with run it at a lower wattage to draw less power.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Nope - full power. They are still powered via the AC mains outlet :)
@tariqj06 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef I think if they was able to run half power you'd get alot more run time. Either way, its a nice system.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Run times isn’t an issue with my system :)
@jeremysim5302 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, will your fish room be connected to the battery back up at all?
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
It will not. Alternate plans for there :)
@jtmcfarland3512 23 күн бұрын
One factor to note: your backup hour calculation didn’t use min drain voltage. This is another one of those manufacturer spec frustrations, but is the 140Ah down to 0% or 20%, etc.? You’ll want to multiply the number of hours by the portion which is safe to drain and not kill the battery. Good on you to choose AGM, but I’m curious… 🎉
@ParkersReef 23 күн бұрын
Yes that’s a great question and I didn’t factor that in nor have I since found the value. I can say the tank has had a power outage for over eight hours and didn’t skip a beat which is exactly what I wanted to achieve :)
@pn7836 3 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for a 4 x 2 x 2 tank? Any other viable options other than EcoTech or fiddle diy jobs?
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
really comes down the your own situation. Ecotech is great if you have their gear, are not capable of much DIY and want a neat solution. DIY will give you a BIGGER option, but it won't be cheaper...
@pn7836 3 жыл бұрын
Parkers Reef thanks looks like EcoTech is the way to go in that case
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
They are a great solution, nothing wrong with them at all
@pn7836 3 жыл бұрын
Parkers Reef do you know how long the vectra pumps last for on battery back up? Presumably, less than the wave makers? Would prefer to use some non EcoTech wave makers like the Tunze or Ai neros instead - lot more affordable!
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
If you can find the watts they use and can point me towards the battery backup you want to use, I can work it out for you :)
@michaelmelnyk3993 3 жыл бұрын
Geez😬 those quotes for installation for the generator are a bit nuts. Were they rewiring the switchboard or something?
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, they reckoned it needed a new feed from the gas mains and all sorts done to the switchboard. The mobs that quoted usually install commercially, so I reckon they quote with decent margins :p
@michaelmelnyk3993 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef yeah, commercial would make it worth it for them. Thats sucks, but i guess you found a better solution
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
I think so!
@garym1550 3 жыл бұрын
If you want your batteries to last, don't draw them down to less than one half capacity, ie they are now 70 amp hours not the full 140 amp hours. Your batteries could then last 8 to 10 years.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Ideally yes, spot on.
@nelsonocasio2462 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, that's the reason I switched to lithium batteries.
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Just the cost.... But with this system I can switch to lithium in a few years when these have done their duty and lithium is (hopefully) cheaper :)
@johnwilson3527 3 жыл бұрын
great video however I think you made a mistake with your costing. 4*1100 batteries + 1800 inverter+500 install equals 6700 not 3000. regardless even 1 battery using this system to run the return pump and skimmer untill you could connect a generator would be well worth it. thanks
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Batteries are $1148 for the set of four, inverter is $1478 and installation actually only ended up at $390. So total was $3016
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Here is the battery link if interested: www.aussiebatteries.com.au/batteries/deep-cycle-agm/4x-140ah-12v-agm-deep-cycle-battery-cables
@johnwilson3527 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef sorry I thought you gave the figures I used during the video. At that price its even more worth it .
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sorry mate, I may not have explained the battery package price well enough :) But yes, totally agree - at $3k it’s a great setup
@torontoraptors2107 3 жыл бұрын
I swear i didnt dislike it. But i did 33:22 it. Im sorry, i only have 30min break-
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahah that’s ok mate, thanks for taking the time to watch what you could :)
@torontoraptors2107 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef Sub! There you go! I think i like your videos. Did watch your tunze skimmer 9001. Freshwater here, switching to saltwater. 1yr old in progress and still learning. Thanks bro!
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate, really appreciate the support!
@thomasedgar8277 2 жыл бұрын
Good vid, but 18-22k to install the generac, sounds like they are into ripping people off. One point you said it’s not your place to question these things (approx 11 mins into vid)of coarse it’s your place to ask why a certain qualified electrician, gas plumber etc is charging what they are. Any decent/honest contractor should be happy to explain why the charge is what it is.
@ParkersReef 2 жыл бұрын
I did ask, they were not willing to divulge the info in anymore detail. I took from it, that they didn’t want to do the job - so put a bs figure in it to either make me go away or pay a premium
@thomasedgar8277 2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkersReef wow, thankyou for replying so fast, you have said you do reply to each person, just did nt not expect so fast. 👍🏻. Yeah, in that case they do sound like they gave you some bs, to dodge the job, and not divulging the costs would raise red flags straight away. I am in the process of waiting for a new build myself (display 4x3x2ft) and find your vids very informative, please keep up the good work. I have actually based my sump build on yours, although a lot smaller 3x2x1.5 ft and 5 sections. I will also be adding the Phillips hue leds as featured in another vid.
@aliceholbert1246 3 жыл бұрын
Not to be a pain in the butt, can you guys not get portable small generators or jump packs
@ParkersReef 3 жыл бұрын
Not a pain at all! Generators are fine if you are home and jump packs work if you have 12v equipment to connect to them. Ultimately I wanted something that could automatically take over and run the majority of the tank without any input from me
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