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yes!!!! agreed agreed agreed

You said it.

Fuckin' gospel truth, that is.

You're absolutely right; he's nicknamed the human drum machine for a reason, and I've always maintained that he was the only truly musically talented member of Joy Division. That being said Ian was a more than exceptional lyricist, and that's where the true charm of the band comes for me.

+Race Baker ya know Ive dance mental like this my whole life , got me fucking no where god damn all this built up soul and no band to play in. I gotta get out more.

Tim Booth is up there as well 👌🏻

About the male styles of dancing: Iggy Pop, Anthony Kiedis, Mick Jagger, Ian..

Lol he was an absolute junkie, nothing pure about that

All dance is pure take your tongue out

Absolutely

And one hell of a lyricist

The likes we could never see in this day and age

Was... unfortunelly

Well he isn't now.. bag o bones .. bag o bones

Not anymore unfortunately, just a box of bones

He was cremated

He was gorgeous

Everyone wanted to form a band in 78-79....like the 60s.....no-one cared if they sounded shit....that as sorta the point....on the job training, you just needed basic rythem skills and away you went, hindsight was not a consideration either....it was all ...live for the moment.....those who lasted or were good at it, benefited from a decent manager, many talented players fell away through bad organizing.

@jujitsuman68 THE POINT IS....it was NOTHING SPECIAL at the time, as good as the rest, or bad depending, retro works wonders yes?...no-one knew fuckall about them, just the sound and a few clips.....now it's like "he was soooo amazing". lol....btw, if 68 was your birthdate, you missed out.

CatoMinor Ian’s singing was pouring out of a deep, deep emotional wound. You can tell he was damaged.

@@notaspacemonkey Wasn't everyone then?...sniffin glue will do that.

@@rich107s Zig Hail Mary.

Só falam... Nada sentem...passem pelo mesmo e verão o poder hipnótico da música... JD umas das melhores...

Yes, mate. People thought he was on drugs. But, he was just being himself intensely...

Yep, it is very, very good indeed!

Amazing film

I was 20 , 1980, and listened to Joy Division on tape in my mini car. I never saw them perform sadly .

The mental struggles and lyrics of Adrian Borland, frontman of The Sound, reminded me of Ian Curtis, honestly.

ChocolateSmurf2001 If somebody had a video of me doing that uncoordinated nerd dance, I would want them to think I was on drugs. Otherwise, they might think those spastic movements were due to cerebral palsy.

He only started dancing as hectic as that after epilepsy and medication. Look at the first live performance on tv, Tony Wilson's show, it was a few months before his epilepsy started and his dancing is mellow compared to months later.

@Ed Collins Im pretty certain he had epilepsy? Educate yourself.

@@jawknee4088 shut up you plonka! He had a seizure every time he got on stage, it was a medical thing, he only had an eppy when on stage, never anywhere else. It's because he couldn't dance, so the doctor gave him special medication that he took before every gig that made his body convulse, it's a shame really because the side effects made him hang himself. Everybody knows that.

@@gutz323 Give me proof that he had a seizure every time on stage. His bandmates and wife have said that he had seizures offstage too. A psychiatrist wouldn't give a medication to someone on purpose just "so he could dance". That's not how it works. You think Ian just asked the doctor "Hey mate, mind giving me some pills that'll make me dance"?

No way, this is a talent you cant obtain, you cant obtain...

Jim Bennett Elvis was a copy of other black performers to begin with

No . I have actually seen people try to duplicate how he moved and they usually have an epic fail . Just my opine but I always felt he moved the way he did because he was uncomfortable with the stage and that is why his dancing looked like " a seizure " as people would call it , just awkward because he didn't practice in reality but it was him . It's sad that many people saw him have actual seizures on stage to where he had to be carried off and for some reason his dancing got lumped in with his seizures . Many fans didn't even realize what he was going through . As for Elvis and ugh , MJ ? Hundred of hours of work and copying went into their moves . We did see people Moon Walk in DC 2 years before Jackson had it shown on videos via MTV. We have footage and documentaries on Michael Jackson rehearsing for hours . Elvis copied but still had rehearsals for hours . Ian just had an unnatural movement that was his . As for drugs ? The only time I can find where he is so waxed he can't open his eyes is in the official video for Love Will Tear Us Apart . Several said he was on drugs but then again most that have Clonic - Tonic Seizures ( and are on the older meds ) will often sleep a day after having one or be sleepy for a for days after . He could have had one before recording the video . The Anti-Siezure agents back then also caused horrible side effects . Dilantan and Phenobarbital, a barb, ( the choice drugs during that period ) cause severe depression , suicidal ideation and anything with barbiturates can knock you out if you take a few extra .

Jim Bennett Thom Yorke in every performance of 'Idioteque' ever

Jim Bennett Future Islands' Sam Herring is the closest we can get

A few special brews isn’t far off

@@benbeesting4385 Lol yeah I’m sure that contributed to the epileptic seizures he’d have while performing

Strong alcohol doesn’t help

@@benbeesting4385 none of it does

*losing

GasMaskHeadhunter I’ve never thought of that comparison but good call.

David Byrne was replaced by his own ultra energized tulpa whilst trying to find an artfully crafted cover for his album "Uh Oh"

Layne stayley Kurt cobain

@@robertbradshaw5281 Lol neither of them had blank eyes, they where just sleepy heroin addicts. Ian was actually mental.

@@GeordieHandle syd wasnt a herion addict, and he was actually more mental than ian curtis, way more successful too.

One Jealous Well Syd didn’t do heroin he was schizophrenic and everyone that knew him said he was autistic but as it was the 60’s that shit wasn’t diagnosed. And Kurt Cobain killed himself using the same reasons Ian did so both of them were mental and you are a cunt

Syd was never diagnosed schizophrenic

@Angie Gomez You are correct in all you said, he was a people pleaser but Ian was very affectionate toward the band and wanted to please them. Ian was thee kind of person who could hardly say no to anyone in the band or music industry when he was to sick too perform. he gave his all and at the end of his life, not even that was enough. The band was so angry he took hid life and not going to America for a moment crushed their dream. But know one was thinking was Ian had been through it all and how he lost his way. I felt the band was wrong for feeling negative towards Ian when he was the sick one and didn't have any possitive support. Things could have been different for Ian. What he truly needed to do at the end like Ian's wife sad in her book Touching from a distance, He need to go in the Hospital for complete rest and get well and not be pressured in goinging to America. What Ian really needed and said and wanted himself at the end was get out of the music industry. Ian had lived his dream and just wanted his life back and said to wife Debbie he wanted his family back he wanted her and Natalie back in his life when he returned from America in his loving personable last letter to his wife. Ian should have never been left alone that last night. He had given all the signs that he was in trouble and Debbie thought in her mind when she left the home to go to her moms to sleep she thought,Ian we be alright by himself. She was trying to make herself believe that. Ian had people always with him he never truly was ever alone. He lost his way all alone , that Sunday Morning May 18,1980 after 4am and 430 am and hung himself. He touched so many lives-"He's gone but not forgotten"

@@jawknee4088 everything stated above was written in the biography his wife wrote about him after he died, you dumbfuck. plus you don't know who anonymous internet personas know in real life anyway...?

@@jawknee4088 Pressure can get to you, I felt pressure to do a simple thing, get vaccinated and it got me in a somber mood for a week until I finally got the jab.

Monty 1.

Yep

Sounds like the song disorder

sky z I agree with you. Let's date each other, baby.

+Tony Murray Yep, and being the singer of the band that would eventually become New Order puts him close to that as well, lol.

he's got the same shaped head as bez. i swear.

@@tuanjim799 New Order still used some of his work I believe.

@@vexillumrubrum7063 their first album has some songs Curtis wrote and they had begun to compose as Joy Division

Have you ever heard the Beatles?

@@Pazuzu82 I hate to say it - and it's subjective anyway - but I'd absolutely say that Joy Division is overrated. The raw passion of Ian (plus it sounding "futuristic" for the time) is the thing that separates it from many other bands.

Wire isn't too bad either.

The best band ever.... ...? No!

Music will have regressed so far that Cher’s mummified pitch correct will be a deity.

he only started dancing when the music played sooo it was his own lil dance & choose when to do it

He started taking epilepsy drugs as late as 1979, long after the dance was invented.

Epileptics do not faint, they lose all control of their bodies and they are still aware of there surrounding, may not remember it, but it is an overload of the senses and high stress makes it worse!

He was not fairly ill, he was extremely ill, he couldn't even hold his baby in his arms for fear of dropping her. My partner has dealt with this and as long as he is prepared for his triggers he can get by.

@@bdj7430 And his wife gave away his dog because he was away so much. Back then, they didn't know that dogs can often sense a seizure coming before the person.

@@bdj7430 You're generalizing epilepsy and adding to the poor awareness it already has. Not every epileptic has the same type of seizures, and consciousness is oftentimes lost if you "faint" (depending on the type of seizure).

Six Two I think

185cm/6'1''

He was a tall fellow.

6 foot 5 actually you wallies, which is the equivalent of 6 foot 10 today you sad sacks. He was brilliant, you're not brilliant at guessing heights though dweebs.

Gregory's Goals How does 6’5” translate to 6’10” today? We’re talking about several decades not hundreds of years.

I don’t know. A lot of English groups from that era had guys that weren’t the best vocalists, but their style worked with the music. Robert Smith and Richard Butler immediately come to mind.

lol

it used to be a british tv show.

But look hes eyes...he seems scary of something...

He was heavily influenced by him i think

He wasn't abusing drugs. He waa on some hardcore epilepsy meds. They way overprescribed them. If you do see research you will see how bad the side effects are.

@@howsitvingoing2048 That totally makes sense, those are harsh, thanks for the info

Aaron and you suffer from bad spelling.

Gregory's Goals wow ur so sad and pathetic

Bradley Tomkins U Should KnoW