These boys have been treated like they're lesser humans their whole lives. Society told them it didn't care what they suffered as children. That's messed up.

I'm 56, and never considered myself a groupie until I started listening to these gentlemen.

I was a kid when this happened and my perspective of this case was extremely skewed to the negative against them. Why did people think it was okay to make fun of these two? Their childhoods were HORRIFIC.

My filthy pedophile dad did this as well. Apart from the daily abuse and constant humiliation, they try to drown you under the pretense of teaching you how to swim. He took away my sandals and I was forced to walk on burning hot pavement which left me with scars on my feet. If I told you everything he did you would not believe me. I still have nightmares about him to this day and I'm in my 60's now.

It's unbelievable that these guys got life while Casey Anthony is a free woman...

Not only is this the most interesting subject matter ever, it's heartwarming to see four experts being so friendly, respectful and kind to each other without egos getting in the way. Thank you for being such great role models gentlemen.

I worked under Mendez for 1 year. In a meeting, he told us, we were family. I told myself, 1st were not family and secondly, if this is how you treat family, I’m out of here. I quit shortly after that meeting. About 6 months later, he was murdered by his sons. I had no idea how bad he was at home but he was an angry man with underlying issues.

As a survivor myself of child abuse, torture by the very persons who were supposed to care for me (in my case a mentally ill adoptive mother), I can tell you that the rage and shame and fear are very intense for a little child. Many many children who are severely abused fantasize about killing their abusers. Most of us, I guess, just don’t have the nerve. Also yes you don’t show emotion. You learn that abusers get off on that; they love the screaming and crying and begging. So you learn to be stoic.

The panel would like to see you do OJ Simpson...and if Mark says he’s never heard of the case, I want Scott, Greg and Chase to read his body language

My condolences on the passing of your dog Scott.

Those boys absolutely should have not got life sentences .I know what it's like to have a father who was extremely abusive ,both emotionally and violently. And I tell you now .if I hadn't been so young and scared of him and a female ,I'm not sure what I would have been cable of because the one thing I do remember is wishing him dead every day from my earliest awareness of how much I hated him,that's what abuse can do over many years .

To me Chase’s comment that murder/killing may not be so deviant a thought/behavior based on the context of the family these boys lived in is a brilliant point (paraphrasing). This case devastates me. If these were girls telling the story, there would have been a very different outcome. I’m down the Menendez rabbit hole currently.

I would not want to be on the receiving end of an interrogation by Greg. He's intimidating enough just sitting in silence ...

I just love Marks personality .Positive and bit theatrical(probably spelled that wrong).He is so funny and charming at times !

Watch Menendez vs Menudo, its heartbreaking, this brothers need a new trail, they need to be freed

It was the 90's and we never heard about sexual abuse in any trial. The media portrayed it as they were lying about the abuse to get out of jail . I watch this now and realize they were abused. It's so sad

15 mins in and Scott has said something very profound (to me) about how children who are abused become incredible observers, this I know to be true as I am always observing other people and watching to see how “the land lies” before saying or doing anything.

Every time My four white uncles post, I’m here for it!!

This was interesting, thank you. I watched this trial as it was happening, it was one of the most heart wrenching trials I have ever seen. I believed Lyle and Eric were abused, that abuse fractured them and the parents received a just sentence.

I only found this case a year or so ago and it was one of the hardest things I've ever watched and I watch/listen to this stuff all day long at work. These men should not be in prison.

i got out of an abusive (verbal /emotional/physical) long term situation with my mother at 19 (after being abused since I was 5 or 6) by literally just running away and now I am 30 . The police actually asked me if I wanted to put her in jail and in the end I just told them I want an ongoing permanent restraining order. Honestly, I think society imagines family, especially mothers as people that can "do no wrong" and that by doing this (restraining order) I am being cruel to my parents, but they dont really understand the longterm scars that abuse can lead that is almost like killing a child.

Now you've got Body Language experts saying the brothers are being truthful about the abuse and people will still refuse to believe it lol.

They have finally been allowed to be in the same prison. They're not on the same unit but do get to see each other now.

I was an abused child sexually by my older brother and physically by my dad and sister. So I really believe them and I feel sad for them, I really do. And if you look into the history of physical and sexual abuse by rich people and celebrities then you understand that they are telling the truth. Look at Corey Haim. It's awful what they have been through.

Chase is talking about a triggered trauma response. Because the nervous system doesn’t tell time, when we recall something traumatizing, the entire body and brain are engaged as if we are surviving that trauma again.

Your video’s are better than any TV show currently on the air.. 👍🏼

People who have been abused become great observers, it takes years and years for others to learn. Yep, true. I lived it and can pick up on things many others can't.

If I was their mother, I’d be the one in prison for killing their father 😡

Greg, I am sure many of your viewers have said this, but I am deeply sorry for your loss and for that of your wife. I have one child, a son who is an adult. I can only imagine the nightmarish and never ending heartbreak this has caused you both. There can be no greater loss. 💔

As a survivor of childhood abuse by my parents, I can totally confirm that being in the moment of a memory can cause a survivor to revert back to a child. I will disassociate or go into child mode whenever there is confrontation or I'm worried that I've upset someone or if I've done something wrong... even just spilling a drink... I apologise all the time to the point where my husband has told me countless times that I say sorry too much but the residual guilt makes me feel like I've still not said sorry enough. I constantly feel like I'm not good enough. I cannot imagine how traumatic it must be to have experienced such horrific abuse only to end up in jail without any chance for freedom. Trauma upon trauma upon trauma.

As a thriver who experienced early childhood abuse they are absolutely 💯 telling the truth. Intuitively I know it

The other video of what they went through is unimaginable that parents could do this & make them act like they are proper. Family's used to keep all the downfalls secret because no one wanted the neighbors to know God forbid. I pray they get another trial 🙏🏻 ✝️

You four realize by now that we -the panelists-are watching as much to fangirl you guys as we are “the content” 😊❣️😘❤️

I think the grief muscle isn't there because he's not in the grieving stage yet; he's still just a confused, lonely little boy who's relieved to be heard for the first time in his life.

51 witnesses including family & friends who visited the home testified for the defense about the abuse the boys suffered from both parents. Very disturbing behavior

These lads should not be in prison. They are not a danger to anyone and have suffered so much.

My heart broke for these two brothers. I really liked how the panel pointed out common traits and adapters that abused kids develop. I could just imagine the two of them being broken as young boys and it just made me sick! I have a young boy of my own and it makes my stomach hurt to think of how these two suffered! I'm sorry, but not sorry, I can't muster much sympathy for the parents. The mother and father sentenced both of thier sons to a life sentence long before the murders.

Yes!!!!!!! Oh my goodness I shouted ‘yes’ out loud when this popped up on my phone!!!! Going to get snacks and watch it right away!!!!!

I can't see justice by these men bring imprisoned for being molested and abused their entire lives. worst crime trial I've ever seen. So sad for them

Forgot all about these guys! Great video, as always. So.... I'm a flight medic. We work 24 hour shifts. As soon as admin is gone for the day (they're a bunch of buzzkills), our tones are replaced with Mark saying "HELP, HELP" when we get a call out 😏 Unless I cant use his voice without permission. If that's the case, this is strictly a hypothetical scenario.

Greg seems like the sweetest, kindest and gentlest man in the world. At the same time one you would never mess with. I think most true alphas are like that. A teddy bear, but a grizzly bear at the same time.

It’s a an absolute crime that the 2 of them are in prison.

Interesting that Jose Menendez has since been accused of drugging and raping a member of Menudo--a boy band. He was a music exec and that industry has a reputation for such abuses that has come out in recent days.

I literally gasped and screamed "NO!!?" when I saw that thumbnail. No later than yesterday I was thinking to myself I wish the panel would do the Menendez brothers.

I'm sorry about the loss of your dog Scott.

I'm totally with Chase. When you're in an abusive household, you are groomed and softening language is the way the horror is swept under the rug and "normalized". So, so sad. These boys grew up with horror. They "snapped". The spending a lot is not so weird to me, either- they lived in 90210, maybe that was a type of psychological revenge. A shout of "freedom".

I grew up in an extremely controlled, abusive household. We were good kids who suffered for doing things like talking to each other in the house or stealing food from the refrigerator . I lived in fear and tried to live by all the rules so I didn’t suffer as much as my older siblings. to get right to my point, when I heard the Menendez brothers had shot their parents I thought that some horrible stuff must have happened, projecting my experience onto their situation. Throughout my childhood I thought the only way out of this hell is if my parents would die. Anytime I saw an ambulance drive past me on my walk home from school, I’d hope so strongly that it was her having a heart attack or something that would be fatal. If I were a boy with the pent up rage , I can easily see obliterating them for never protecting or caring for me. What you don’t know on the child side is that the hell is with you even if manage to get out. I can realistically see them shooting their parents to end the pain, but getting rid of them won’t take away the damage. For all of us, living free or not, your whole life is damaged.

I get excited everytime I see their thumbnail pop up on my recommendation

I believe that when asked about mum's reactions to dad's abuse, he looks down mouth half-open also for another reason. I think that he sees himself back then, remembers his mum doing nothing to help him, thinking that at the time, he didn't understand why mum wasn't helping. He felt confused, in pain and probably thinking that since mum had not reacted, it wasn't a big deal (what dad was doing to him), so he should not see it as abuse. Internal conflict caused by external, painful factors, the dearest people we trust as children, our parents. SHAME ON PARENTS LIKE THESE.

People just didn't want to hear about boys being raped by their own father, and they blamed these guys for talking about it. Watch the whole trial and listen to the way the judge e.g. talks to them - total contempt verging on anger and hatred. You were boys! Why didn't you just punch him off? That actually seems to be the attitude. Meanwhile they were 6 when the dad started assaulting them. Personally I don't blame them for killing their rapists - and I do include the sadistically complicit mom in that - just to make it end. Hell, just as revenge. But I can also believe they legitimately feared for their lives.

I love how Mark always builds up tension, starting to get you curious, waiting for the payoff. And in the end he goes..."so, what does it all mean...I don t know" Never fails to crack me up.

Really glad you did this one, as I must admit, I thought they were spoilt rich kids looking for an excuse, but I can see the genuineness in their testimony. A shame that they went to trial at a time when this defence wasn’t really accepted or well understood

Whew. This one was hard... I knew about them but never saw any footage, and the level of abuse seems horrible. What a horrible waste of four lives. Scott, you’re so cute when you get mad and say “Dadgummit!” ☺️

Amazing that you guys said this two years ago and now with the Menudo documentary, it has come out that the Menendezes's father also raped one or some of the band members... so now the Menendez brothers are going to try to appeal again. I hope they get a shot at being free.

When Lyle was 16-17 years old, he started losing his hair out of stress, and by the time he went to college, he was totally bald on the top of his head. poor guy has had to wear a hairpiece since before he graduated High School. How humiliating! Pops was a douche

I remember watching as a little girl and feeling like they were being honest about the abuse. Tragic case. Thanks for your analysis!!

How come they don't have people like these guys as jurors. Instead of regular people that can't read people from telling truth or lying. 🤔

Horrific how their sexual abuse was dragged out of them in court.😊

"People who were abused as children are powerful observers." That's right! That's the only way we could survive. Love this channel, thanks guys.

Greg, the conflict Lyle had with his brother before calling 911 was that Erik was in so much distress that Lyle had to drag him from the room their parents were twice because Erik was going there constantly. You can hear Erik screaming on the 911 call and Lyle telling him, screaming at him to get out of there (he went back several times during Lyle's phone call) And also you said about Erik how he leans forward to hear better, he was disgnosted with multiple speech, hearing and understanding disorders and severe PTSD. Also i want to point out that their therapists said that at the time of the crime their emotional maturity was between the ages of 10-12, if we can explain Lyle's crying on the phone (Chase said something about this) Mark, i think the soften of, what we all call abuse, and called it "thing", happened because, compared with the other things their father was doing to him, is insignificant. Also they had therapy for the past 3 years in prison , a reason, maybe of dissociation. Scott, the fact that his head was down when he said that his mom didnt interviene, is not only because he is ashamed, is more because he thinks she shouldve interviene when his father was molesting him; his mom knowing about it from the begining. And thank you for bringing up the fact that they were trained not to show emotion. That particular thing was their father philosophy, never to show emotions, dont let people read you. He also "trained" them how to not show pain. Mark, in the closing you said you cant really say if there was an other motive for killing, and the other guys said that they dont think they were in fear for their lives. For that, you have to know or listen to them testify about what happned the week prior to the killings. And i'm going to point it out in a few sentences: 1. Erik found out that he was still going to have to sleep at home 4 nights a week even if he was going to be on a college compus (so the sexual molestation wouldnt stop) 2. Erik tells his brother about the abuse he endured for 12 years (Lyle's abuse was from 6-8 years old, Erik's was from 6-18 years old) because he was afraid he would kill himself otherwise, he wanted Lyle to do something about it. 3. They found out their mother knew about the sexual abuse all their lives and never intervened. 4. Lyle confronts his father, telling him that if he wont stop touching Erik, he will tell the police and the family, Jose refuses to stop the molestation and at some point (on the night of the killings) as Lyle is talking about a place he wants to go for a tennis training, Jose says something like "why you want to go? it doesnt matter anymore now" as if he already decided to kill his sons due to the fact that they now want to go to the police. As Lyle said, a lot of things happened in that last week to really make them believe that their parents were going to kill them. If someone happened to read all this and is willing to know more about the case but doesnt want to spend months (like me) watching the trial on Court Tv, please watch the mini series Erik Menendez speaks on, called "Erik tells all" relating everything that happened . Thank you for this video, it was really interesting and powerful!

Ive developed a serious crush on all four of you handsome men! Thanks for doing this channel! It’s excellent!!

35 years with no hope for parole. Such a tragic waste. I think the sentence should be comuted because the abuse was censored for the second trial.

Timestamp Guide 1:25 Quick run down 3:01 Clip One 3:47 Eyebrows 6:00 Jugular vain 6:39 Lip biting adapter 9:01 Signaling with brows 9:19 Biting lip to contain 9:54 What an adapter is 11:29 Tactic to try & get subjects shoulders even to avoid unconscious fighting stance 13:13 Clip Two 21:18 Clip Three (911 call) 23:30 Red flags 24:35 S.T.R.I.P. 27:18 What's missing 28:23 Story vs. Crime 29:30 Significant Changes 33:08 Clip Four 35:20 Auditory/Digital memory 39:32 Illustrators 43:47 Clip Five 47:43 Anti gravity movements 48:40 Clip Six 51:44 Clip Seven 1:01:18 Clip Eight 1:02:45 Softening of language 1:05:10 Honest vs. Nervous Behavior 1:06:42 Distancing language 1:10:00 Clip Nine 1:11:07 Step one for trial consultants 1:12:20 Signs of real crying 1:13:47 What's hardest to reproduce 1:17:30 Greg shows us his grief muscle & chin boss skills 1:18:27 Clip Ten 1:20:30 Traumagenic arrested development 1:24:21 Clip Eleven 1:25:32 Barriers 1:26:54 Blink rate increase & recall 1:28:46 Team focused pronouns 1:29:30 Compartmentalization & dissassociation 1:32:18 BP giving their verdict

At the beginning of the 911 call, the dispatcher asks Lyle "are the shooters still in the house?" Lyle says "yes" and quickly changes to "no."

@ 20:18 Chase, you addressed distorted thinking. So many survivors of abuse have to fight this everyday.

I hope they get a chance to get out. New evidence came out this year. As a mother I will never allow that to happen to my kids, you do that, into the chooky you go! Sad situation

When you have suffered catastrophic abuse as a child, there is no question that if that person has the same access to you as an Adult, it WILL continue.

I feel so bad for those two brothers, they never stood a chance. Their parents destroyed them with abuse.

Personally I find Scott the most intuitive and empathetic when reviewing these cases. I think he’s spot on with his analysis of the feelings displayed towards the parents. He talks the least though which is a shame.....,again, just my view - everyone has a favourite no doubt. You’re all great though 😊

why are these two still in prison?!?! let them out already, they've been through enough! even if they killed their parents because of past abuse, that abuse may have had a psychological effect so that they felt trapped and that killing their parents was the only way to escape them.

Since discovering this channel my consumption of music has gone down rapidly. On a binge run!

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If those had been young women in that trial, instead of young men, there never would have been a 2nd trial. Boys being abused is still not treated the same way, but it is getting better.

I'm not justifying the sons' actions, but I believe them about the abuse, and the abusive parents literally raised them to not have appropriate coping and problem solving skills. Very sad story.

Gentleman, I'm a recent subscriber and have been binge watching. This video convinced me your genius may have a blind spot. It's clear to me, as a survivor of childhood (sexual-mental-verbal) abuse & emotional deprivation. Sitting-on hands = abuser probably warned him not to make any defensive moves. My personal Lived Experience; as an example: my mother screaming, "Stand and take it! How many times can I hit you? Eventually, I'll stop!" Equally, with aggressive dogs, her teaching was that I should never flee from an attack. Fair enough, I understood the logic. The result? I got bitten three times by rabid dogs. 14 shots in the abdomen, times THREE! Aside: we lived in a 3rd world country, not in a feverish dream of Cujo. Victims present differently to most people because IT'S ALL ABOUT THE POWER DYNAMIC! Both brothers show the deference victims often display towards people with greater power. Here, it's the prosecutor. Picture them in front of the father. Of COURSE, they called it Training. It's distancing, it may be the term the father/abuser used to explain the context of WHY-for what he's putting them through. Example: this training will make you a big strong man!

These poor guys never had a chance in life and I presume the majority of viewers will never understand what a mix of fear and shame creates. They were failed by their parents, coaches, teachers and eventually the judicial system.

I think Diane Downs, would be an interesting one to analyze.

Scott has a comforting voice, reminds me of Bob Ross. Thanks for the videos!

They should not be in jail. What they went through at the hands of those monsters was horrific. If they could have done this when they were kids, it would have been considered self-defense.

Yay! This is one I've been hoping you'd cover. Could you please do Nichol Kessinger (Chris Watts' girlfriend) and her possible guilty knowledge or involvement?

It's a privilege to view you guys doing this stuff. I really look forward to these each week. Thank you. Greg UK.

I had a friend in school she was abused by her father from 6-10 years old. I had spend every day with her and you would never know that something is wrong. Then when she was 10 i saw the bruises on her all over, talked to my teacher and she called police. Her father admited all of it and you know what he got ??? Maybe 2 years in jail because i saw him near that same school.

Descriptions of abuse in the home are dead on accurate. Granted, plenty survive without murder... too easy to judge what will break children and create such an outcome.

I grew up with a father who had money and power and he spanked me with a belt for every little thing I did wrong. He didn't SA me but i can relate to why they act the way they did and do. Unless u grow up like they did or even close to it then it's extremely difficult for ppl to understand. Also, back then, it was almost unheard of for boys to be SA and it was NEVER spoken about if it did. I can't imagine the amount of men who are now in their 40's and 50's that were SA but never said anything due to embarrassment or fear or both.

Thank you thank you for covering this terrible story. I find the boys testimonies utterly heartbreaking 😢😢😢

Chase sits so still and serious at times it almost looks like his screen freezes, lol.

Thank you all for being sensitive to survivors who might be viewing this ( like myself ) and not get too explicit, be aware of the possibility of some being triggered by watching this.

Listening & watching Erik talk about swimming was so sad. During the trial, he sobbed. This is when I knew these "boys" were not lying about the sexual abuse. It seemed to me, although powerless, Lyle wanted to protect his brother.

This case 💔 I’ll always feel a sense of empathy and compassion towards these guys.

I'd be interested in going through some Ted Bundy footage... especially where he was questioned about victims beyond what he was convicted for.

I like what you're saying about all of the trauma affecting their answers now, and to speak to that Mark, it was not socially acceptable to discuss ANY of this back then, it's only recently that it has become more of an open discussion.

I'm so sorry your adorable dog died, Scott. I understand the grief from losing a beloved pet.

These men should be let out of prison. They have spent enough time locked up, considering what absolute monsters their parents were. If they had been female, I don't know if they would have even been sentenced to any time. Those parents were bigger monsters than a lot of serial killers! I feel so bad for them.

I know what I'm doing with the next 1 hour 36 minutes and 20 seconds of my evening.

The abuse was real, I think they just had enough. Put yourself in their shoes, you have been abused by your father for most of your life, they could not do much about it when they were children, but as they got older, they decided to end it. I think they killed their mother out of anger, for not maybe standing up for them. But saying this, their mother was most probably abused by her husband, as you generally find in abusive relationships. They could have handled this way better than they did, but I suppose in their minds, they wanted payback for all the pain their father had caused them over the years.

I love the fact that I sense compassion in Greg, without him even expressing it.

Scott, it seems true that they were trained not to show emotions. The brothers mention several times that their parents didn't like them to show emotions.

At the time of the trial I thought they were evil, spoilt kids. Now I see them as victims who couldn’t take the life long abuse anymore. Tortured by the father and a mother who let it happen.

I hope they wouldn't be found guilty today. The idea of sexual abuse against men and boys hadn't been spoken about much, the church scandals were in the future. It shows how important it is to speak out. Sad they were in separate prisons for 22 years.

I have always believed that they were telling the truth. They should not have been convicted. I feel so sorry for both of them.