Mengu plays the most expensive cards in the game! | Paradoxical vs Hollow Vine

Mengu plays the most expensive cards in the game! | Paradoxical vs Hollow Vine | Vintage Mtg

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1 Ancestral Recall
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Black Lotus
4 Coveted Jewel
4 Force of Will
1 Gitaxian Probe
4 Grim Monolith
1 Island
1 Karn, the Great Creator
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Manifold Key
4 Mishra's Workshop
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Opal
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mystic Forge
1 Otawara, Soaring City
4 Paradoxical Outcome
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Sea Gate Restoration
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
4 The One Ring
1 Time Vault
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Trinisphere
4 Urza's Saga
4 Defense Grid
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Mindbreak Trap
1 Mycosynth Lattice
2 Pithing Needle
4 Wurmcoil Engine
Tommi Hollow Vine List:
tcgplayer.pxf.io/GmW4zL
4 Blazing Rootwalla
4 Wasteland
4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Strip Mine
4 Hollow One
4 Force of Will
4 Master of Death
4 Noxious Revival
4 Serum Powder
4 Vengevine
4 Force of Vigor
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Basking Rootwalla
1 Mental Misstep
1 Fury
1 Chalice of the Void
4 Mindbreak Trap
4 Force of Negation
2 Karakas
3 Fury
4 Surgical Extraction
4 Leyline of the void
2 Ghost Quarter

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@peteroleary8566 Ай бұрын

We've done it, we've found both the vintage players

@FGCmtg Ай бұрын

Hey hey! I play Vintage too! There are at least three! 😂

@dizzie8685 Ай бұрын

We're have something about 10 vintage players in our country too😂

@olvynchuru1663 Ай бұрын

There are a lot more Vintage players in Magic Online, since the Power Nine and other Vintage-only cards are much more affordable there (at one point I bought a Black Lotus in Magic Online for $5). It's still not nearly as popular as other formats, though.

@Gettin_chunky Ай бұрын

I love vintage

@GrayVMhan 24 күн бұрын

Commander players kinda play vintage

@davidwillett7253 Ай бұрын

Makes me so happy to see the cards actually getting played and not just sitting in slabs

@Ruhrohraggy7 Ай бұрын

It makes me happy too, but also very anxious 😂

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

Cards are meant to be played !! I opened many cases of graded cards in my life :)

@00SmartAss00 Ай бұрын

Riffle shuffled too xD

@justicebrewing9449 24 күн бұрын

I play most of my original cards. They are definitely not anywhere near mint condition after 30 years of play. I do have several that I have just stored away against a rainy day. I found out years ago if I group most of my good cards together either crush whoever I’m playing against or someone starts pointing out all the band cards and start screaming about their lack of them.

@andrewjackson6933 Ай бұрын

I can't believe 100% of all vintage players were in this video

@NasalFtw Ай бұрын

First time seeing this matchup live and I’ve been playing for almost 15 years. It’s great to see a match of a format that is almost unplayed. It was great to see! Incredibly powerful.

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

That was the goal! Happy we achieved it! :)

@123Perillo Ай бұрын

This looks so different to all other mtg formats. I liked when Mengu said " I have an island"

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

Finally blue mana!!

@JohnFromAccounting Ай бұрын

Bazaar is the best land of all time. You can mulligan to 1 for Bazaar and still win the game. It is the only card you need.

@alexandreleveque8394 Ай бұрын

In that case why is Bazaar legal in vintage and were legal in commander for a long time. While Tolarian academy is restricted x1 and ban everywhere else since long time

@gfrancagm4017 Ай бұрын

@@alexandreleveque8394 cant win with academy only

@kylegonewild Ай бұрын

@@alexandreleveque8394 They didn't say most powerful. Best is subjective and their criteria seems to be "you only need this land to pull off the deck's strategy" whereas Tolarian does require *some* sort of board of artifacts, as easy as that may usually be.

@johnnydapp6322 Ай бұрын

@@alexandreleveque8394 using commander banlist to determine strong cards doesnt really work.

@alexandreleveque8394 Ай бұрын

@@kylegonewild Yes, but the Tolarian is the most broken and absurd land I think printed since 1993, and especially in Vintage. I mean, in the video it was once tapped fro 11 blue mana ^^

@NStripleseven Ай бұрын

“Eh, guess I’ll play some artifacts” *black lotus*

@Lightwoida Ай бұрын

Poor Tommy please Release him from the Editing booth 😂

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

From this afternoon chat: ‘Wow tommy the video came out to be 40 minuts, i didn’t expect that’ ‘To me they felt like 12 hours’ 😅

@tyler2906 Ай бұрын

@@MengusWorkshop He does an excellent job, these videos are top notch!

@yamamotokun80 Ай бұрын

Hi, Mengu. i hope you can feature how broken old cards and compare it to cards nowadays like Tolarian Academy, Recurring Nightmare, Necropotence, and the likes.

@AncientExplorationCanada 25 күн бұрын

Watching with subtitles I almost died at 21:10 when it said "Black Lettuce" 🤣🤣

@Darby_777 5 күн бұрын

37:09 check out mangoes workshop

@DerringerHK Ай бұрын

Mengu this was amazing! So cool to see these decks played in paper - not very often you see P9 gameplay with production values this good (Kudos to Tommi). Really enjoying the Workshop content, keep it up :)

@MISFITSERAPH Ай бұрын

I love this channel. Every veedeeoo has been great. Keep up the good work.

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

Thanks!!

@job12342 Ай бұрын

Paper vintage!!!! Mengu and Tommi are the best!!!

@seantracy6452 Ай бұрын

I think you could buy a pretty nice car for the price of Mengu's deck in this one So cool to see all these old power cards!

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

Cars don’t cast paradoxical outcome!

@seantracy6452 Ай бұрын

@@MengusWorkshop true!!

@TheMattmatic Ай бұрын

You could probably buy a pretty nice house AND a car... but who needs crap like that anyway

@tomatetactico4641 Ай бұрын

@@MengusWorkshop Why not? They're Artifact - Vehicle right?

@stevenwinters4480 Ай бұрын

Best magic content out there! Thank you for the great paper gameplay!

@davidhickey8613 Ай бұрын

I subbed to the channel, not that I'll watch all the content, but your so good on camera you deserve to have all the subs you can get. Such a natural. also great player

@Phozon000 Ай бұрын

Truely the best Magic... theres something so special about watching vintage. Thank you for this!

@fabioandrade8476 Ай бұрын

Thanks for all the videos Mengu. Love seeing paper magic, please keep them coming.

@aaronlawrenz8183 Ай бұрын

This content is absolutely fantastic! Though I would love some kind of primer explaining what the decks are trying to do before the games start! I don't know many older magic decks but I love the content regardless!

@dgh329 Ай бұрын

Love the content. Thanks for the uploads Mengu.

@MrCrazycarlwinter Ай бұрын

Wonderful to watch. Makes me very nostalgic!

@inzizor 2 күн бұрын

Love the videos! Great channel, hope it keeps going with the older formats.

@xakuyer Ай бұрын

Still an underrated channel, keep up the good work Mengu and Tommy

@alexdiotto Ай бұрын

it's simply awesome seeing vintage decks go off! Thanks for this video :)

@mattyviooo Ай бұрын

I love seeing Tommy so much more comfortable in front of the camera, great content as always

@UncleIstvan Ай бұрын

Great video, great channel. Also it is awesome to see Mengu care so much for the printings and versions of paper cards, so happy about a foil Grim Monolith or a Arena Island, and it’s fantastic, as others have mentioned as well, to see them being played 👍🏼

@LoganBeck11 Ай бұрын

This is so cool to see in person! Please bring more vintage!

@DefinitelyNotTroll69 Ай бұрын

Bravissimo! È veramente bello vedere queste carte giocate e non solo dietro una teca ❤

@ChrisMaskell Ай бұрын

Very cool to see in action, thanks for the vintage veedeo!

@user-tj1vj4rv5j Ай бұрын

So far loving the content on mengu's workshop. Tysm for the great veedeos!

@julienbled5055 Ай бұрын

Never played a game of Vintage in my life (I guess Cube doesn't count) but had a really good time watching this, you guys do a great job ! Really fun to watch, great editing, keep it going ! 😘

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Megatron9000 Ай бұрын

It's crazy shuffling up a deck that has a Black Lotus in it. That card costs what, like $100? lol maybe a little bit more than that!

@Habizbah Ай бұрын

Lol yeah, a bit more

@RumpledNutskin Ай бұрын

I play vintage on mtgo regularly, and there is no combo I hate more than vault+key 😂

@henriquenery4352 Ай бұрын

Thx for keeping up the good work, wished there was more pauper content tho

@johngalbraith9613 28 күн бұрын

Both of you guys are great, keep it up!

@andreadonelli3978 Ай бұрын

Semplicemente senza parole... Uno spettacolo!

@konnerspears7964 Ай бұрын

Excellent video as always

@kingjpbeats6832 Ай бұрын

Happy this exists, thank you

@marcelukawski1346 Ай бұрын

So glad you decided to show off vintage in paper!

@CutFlowKev Ай бұрын

Great vid!! Crazy how similar the playstyle of Workshop is to Heliod, the warped eclipse (cedh). If you ever want to tap into the format, tap into the deck. Flash speed spices it up

@BigChimpEnergy Ай бұрын

I haven't played MTG in probably 5 years now and I sold my collection ages ago, but this really makes me want to play Vintage or Legacy with my friends over webcam with proxies or Tabletop Simulator. I'm very partial to the Hollowvine deck too, because I used to play a lot of Rakdos Hollow One in Modern when it was a top tier deck. Good stuff!

@giornogiovanna5038 Ай бұрын

Love your vids mengu

@Dexsting Ай бұрын

I loved this! And showing how it wins too!

@igor8688 Ай бұрын

I would really like this format on Arena

@izzetplayerttv3685 Ай бұрын

Loved watching this

@paoloazzini9003 Ай бұрын

Of course I love phyrexian metamorphe, what I hate is the one ring

@Buckship Ай бұрын

I hope to see more vintage and pauper content :)

@Shendue 22 күн бұрын

I've played Vintage on Magic Online. Built a deck after Vintage Masters ended, since I was able to draft a bunch of P9 and only needed a couple more to build a competitive deck. It's surprisingly fun. I expected it to be annoying due to the degeneracy, but all in all, it ends up being surprisingly balanced, since all decks are OP.

@wrMendax 28 күн бұрын

That Arena Promo Island (12:15) is from 2002, not 2001. The 2001 Arena Promo Island has a snow covered look to it!

@yogzi Ай бұрын

Very nice to see a channel where foil Grim Monolith is being played instead of going straight to the vault.

@TlatoaniItzcoatl Ай бұрын

that was so fun to watch.

@boataccident1492 Ай бұрын

holy crap, these decks are so cool!! vintage really is another beast in terms of power level, huh?! I could never afford to play this in paper, but this seems like it would be hilarious and fun!!

@tungru1 Ай бұрын

i'm starting to think that Mengu put manifold key on the bottom so he could show off all the cards 😂

@janmelantu7490 Ай бұрын

My favorite part of Manaless Dredge is that it’s the cheapest 10-proxy vintage deck. No moxen, no lotus, no duals. Just Bazaar and Force of Will.

@henrysleight7768 Ай бұрын

Awesome content, btw I think you need another wideshot of the two of you - I couldn't tell you were in the same room at first aha

@uukk3968 Ай бұрын

When i saw the post about Bazaar last Week i hoped for Dredge haha. Still two very, very beautiful Decks. : )

@SaintJimmy36 Ай бұрын

Damn Mengu's collection is insane! Thanks for another great match

@feliperodrigues5437 Ай бұрын

Awesome games as usual. Mengu should get Paradoxical Outcome in old frame, it's gorgeous.

@Uzotrups 15 күн бұрын

Great work ethic with the editor ahaha.

@Xirathen Ай бұрын

Guys we need to grow the channel enough they can hire an editor 😭😭. Poor tommy

@DiaIect Ай бұрын

I normally don't branch much into formats like Legacy or Vintage but Paradoxical Outcome looks amazingly fun, maybe one day I will win the lottery and have the joy of playing it in paper! :D

@TheKapuzina 25 күн бұрын

love the flexing with mengus deck - thats part of why we play magic - its also a collectors game =)

@matichribar5823 Ай бұрын

Great video i like to watch.

@hanspeter4845 Ай бұрын

Love this video.

@quackcharge Ай бұрын

what a fun match that was :)

@marccz7166 Ай бұрын

Hey Workshop-crew, great video :) Where did you get these dice from? They look awesome!

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

I bought them from amazon when i was in USA. They werent available buying from italy though

@MrShrike Ай бұрын

Wow, Bazaar seems as powerful in game one as Urzas Saga in affinity in modern 😜

@PlaytoWinMTG Ай бұрын

This is awesome

@kylegonewild Ай бұрын

Just goes to show how game warping The One Ring ended up being.

@Nosa_VR Ай бұрын

At 13:00 the tokens you held up were actually infinitokens, not the ultimate guard equivalent!

@DrSiddha Ай бұрын

So the power 9 allows you to play Yu-gi-oh in Magic!! That's so good

@TaisxD Ай бұрын

Man, that first game actually came down to Tommy attacking for fun against the ring. 4 more blockers would've probably been enough to survive until Mengu would deck himself

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

Manifold key unblockable to 20/20 construct probably safest win

@Locustnism Ай бұрын

What’s your favourite constructed paper format?

@MTHEORY303 Ай бұрын

Vintage Feelsgoodman

@Woke-CardBoard Ай бұрын

Only one problem. Reprint the reserved list!!! Hear hear!!!

@TheGorillah Ай бұрын

I like some Poxwalkers in my Hollow Vine Deck.

@johnread5030 Ай бұрын

Game 1 was so crazy

@rafaelmarques3956 Ай бұрын

Please, do a budget decks video.

@giorgiodalmasso9288 Ай бұрын

Nice to see some of the most powerful cards in the history 💖 obviously I'm in the bazaar side 😂

@crystalcastles8856 Ай бұрын

Good guy mengu not making Tommy show the whole deck on the screen when he drew it

@Jeskai Ай бұрын

imagine mengu doing all that and then getting gut shot

@martinrosschou Ай бұрын

Tap a land, draw 2 cards, man that must feel good though. Okey the discard 3 less good, but yeah with this deck even that can feel good.

@PrereleasePrep Ай бұрын

Would this br a fun video series? you "timetravel" into the future and add 4 copies of a single card to a deck and test what deck is now the best? What card would you pick for these two decks?

@XTimTheEnchanterX Ай бұрын

Haha that was a wild first game

@PedroDuqueBR Ай бұрын

How much are the decks worth?

@SpaceBeleren Ай бұрын

And this is Magic like Richard Garfield intended

@pummppkinn Ай бұрын

Great video, but I'm confused! Am I missing something why Tom never gained control of Coveted Jewel and drew 3 when he was attacking Andrea?

@MengusWorkshop 29 күн бұрын

Oooops we missed that I think

@elleeVee Ай бұрын

yall should play canadian highlander

@luckilyduckily Ай бұрын

yipee! wahoo!

@neminem233 19 күн бұрын

See this is why you people shouldn’t forget timetwister

@eulefranz944 Ай бұрын

Pauper next again! Some caw gate?

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

Yes we ll record tomorrow, gardens vs boros synth

@eulefranz944 Ай бұрын

@@MengusWorkshop siiiiiick pauper is so good. So many interesting matchups and decisions

@villjess77 Ай бұрын

Do we all hate Phyrexian Metamorph or do we hate what it copies? *Cough* The One Ring

@TheMattmatic Ай бұрын

21:34 did Mengu roll for Mana Crypt? Or maybe he had Ring protection, so many things were happening :D

@hrdrsu763 Ай бұрын

i dont get it.. mengu wasnt protected anymore!? forgot to roll ?

@hrdrsu763 Ай бұрын

i am dumb.. its a mox opal and a mana vault

@TheMattmatic Ай бұрын

@@hrdrsu763 Oh right. He has both Mana Vault and Mana Crypt as Invocations, so I got them confused. Or maybe I was just dazzled by the bling.

@adolfreinhardt8605 28 күн бұрын

How much money is on the table?

@joshuaadams5295 Ай бұрын

I love vintage!!!!

@Gettin_chunky Ай бұрын

My shops deck would have already shut down both of these decks 😂. To be fair though, I only use proxies so the cost isn’t an issue.

@kingmangaming9626 12 күн бұрын

im confused? pretty much every time mengu played a one ring, the other guy played something that did something to mengu in the same turn when the one ring gives you protection from everything right?

@kingmangaming9626 12 күн бұрын

nevr mind i realized my mistake

@aririran7749 Ай бұрын

Tolarian Academy?

@Henry.Paeppler.7089 22 күн бұрын

From my point of view Time Vault needs extensive and comprehensive errata. I know that Wizards have tried a couple of times to balance this card. But they never went far enough. Taking into account how many times they tried, I would say that it needs an erratum which reflects all the different wordings and the problems caused. The main problem is that the card is easily abused or broken within a two card combo! This results from the fact that the card was produced when there were no alternative ways to manipulate artifacts, e.g. tutoring, untapping and tapping. Advocated aim for this erratum is to prevent using and breaking Time Vault within a two card combo. And to guarantee that Time Vault needs at least a three card combo to result in infinite turns. The suggested erratum contains the current rule text and the changes to it within square brackets. ****************************** Time Vault ***************************** Time Vault enters the battlefield tapped [and with a time counter on it]. Time Vault doesn't untap during your untap step [as long as there is a time counter]. [Time Vault cannot be untapped as long as there is a time counter.] If you would begin your turn while Time Vault is tapped, you may skip that turn [to remove time counters] instead. If you do, untap Time Vault. Tap: To take an extra turn after this one and put a new time counter on Time Vault.

@Henry.Paeppler.7089 3 күн бұрын

I thought about an erratum which contains the constraints of sentence two and three within one sentence. With a conditional clause (as long as there is...). But I would say it is better that way. Two sentences are easier to read and understand. Additionally the game mechanics are clearer that way! ***************************************** Time Vault ***************************************** Time Vault enters the battlefield tapped [and with a time counter on it]. Time Vault doesn't untap during your untap step [as long as there is a time counter]. [Time Vault cannot be untapped as long as there is a time counter.] If you would begin your turn while Time Vault is tapped, you may skip that turn [to remove all time counters] instead. If you do, untap Time Vault. Tap: To take an extra turn after this one and put a new time counter on Time Vault. ********************************************************************************************** Please note that I further specified to remove ALL time counters, when skipping a turn to untap the Vault.

@kylejohnson4662 Ай бұрын

Would one copy of Elixir of Immortality be good in the sideboard of Workshop? Just so you don’t over draw?

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

You shouldnt overdraw, that means you punted lol

@kylejohnson4662 Ай бұрын

@@MengusWorkshop I was mostly referring to the first game where key was the very last card in the deck and Tommy could have had blockers to chump for a couple of turns and deck you out.

@MengusWorkshop Ай бұрын

@@kylejohnson4662 manifold key makes construct unblockable if needed

@kylejohnson4662 Ай бұрын

@@MengusWorkshop completely forgot about that line of text.

@dekina1198 Ай бұрын

in game 1 on tom's 2nd turn. i wonder why he cast force of vigor in his own upkeep instead of mangus, to maybe get some free "dmg" thanks to manacrypt trigger gitprobe is also legal in commander! :

@Ahayzo Ай бұрын

He cast it during Mengu's end step (you can't pitch cast that Force cycle during your turn) so that Mengu didn't get to untap first. If he waited till Mengu's next upkeep, Mengu would have mana, and a Ring, to work with in response to draw cards and maybe stop the Force.

@dekina1198 Ай бұрын

@@Ahayzo ohh, yeah. Miss read the situation and forgott that force of vigor is only in oitch mode during your opponents turn. My bad