Terror in the Trees! The Extraordinary Story of American Airlines 1572

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19 күн бұрын

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Airpressure.. You can sometimes feel changes in it, as you are driving through a tunnel or down a hill but you wouldn’t think it is something that could bring a huge airplane down. But as it turns out, if you combine some minor deviations from procedures with a rapidly changing pressure... Really bad things can happen. Stay tuned.
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@NoSaysJo
@NoSaysJo 3 сағат бұрын
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@northmaineguy5896
@northmaineguy5896 18 күн бұрын
I was the controller being relieved on that night in the TRACON. Our usual routine was to have a "late guy" who works alone from about 10 pm until midnight. That night was miserable, howling winds, sideways rain, multiple go-arounds and diverts. I recall thinking when I left the shift to the two "mid-shift" guys, that this is the type of nights accidents happen. Runway 15 at KBDL was a terrible runway to land on and the VOR approach wasn't much help to that runway; I have landed on that runway myself and I didn't like it. The next day, I went to the hangar where the airplane towed, and the aircraft was a mess! Every foot of both leading edges had damage and there was a tree limb sticking out of one of the engines. Both of the main landing gears had trees wrapped in them. I am surprised they made it to the runway. I forgot to mention they hit the RW 33 ILS antennas on the approach end and those parts were stuck to the aircraft. Quite a night, they even closed the tower due to the high winds.
@bsmith1164
@bsmith1164 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, something like that can never leave your memory. Non-precision approaches like this were leftovers from the 50s' and really should have been scrutinized and ones like this with tricky terrain abandoned. It happened again with an Air Canada A320 at Halifax 7 years later in similar conditions. I was thinking that the altimeter confusion of 29.40 vs .47 was a common error I see. It's easy to confuse 7 and 0 on the radio and something I find myself catching on altimeter and transponder code readbacks. Pilots sometimes say they get too many altimeter updates (center, then approach then from tower), but in bad weather, it's a vital update.
@jamesTBurke
@jamesTBurke 18 күн бұрын
Hey atleast everyone survived. It could have been much worse
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 18 күн бұрын
Really lucky that they made it! Did they do anything about the approach after the incident?
@jamesTBurke
@jamesTBurke 18 күн бұрын
@@tomriley5790 yea. All the recommendations
@northmaineguy5896
@northmaineguy5896 18 күн бұрын
@@tomriley5790To my knowledge, no. AT BDL, RW 15 was almost never used; our calm wind runways were 24/33; only occasionally, and usually due to high winds, did we ever use RW 15. I've been retired for years so I am not up date on what might have been done since.
@robertbenzon6941
@robertbenzon6941 17 күн бұрын
I was the National Transportation Safety Board investigator-in-charge of the government work on this one. Thank you for an extremely clear summary. Our final report criticized the pilots and also commended them for landing successfully. A bit of a rarity. I and the other pilots on my NTSB team wondered if we could have done as well as this AAL crew did in a similar situation. As an aside, I was told that the AAL union pilots awarded the captain with a tree fragment from his landing gear well. I thought that was pretty cool.
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 17 күн бұрын
ArE YOu LyInG? 😂 Seriously, thanks for the info. I love the tree story
@ashleyobrien4937
@ashleyobrien4937 17 күн бұрын
yep, very cool, and appropriate..
@spencer3752
@spencer3752 17 күн бұрын
I just watched the video of Senator Mark Warner delivering your accolades to congress from 13 years ago. Thank you for your extraordinary lifetime of service and keeping us all safe.
@marquisdelafayette1929
@marquisdelafayette1929 17 күн бұрын
I think they are human beings and made a mistake. Compared to the 99% of pilots who start panicking and don’t remember what to do, this was a nice rarity. Any other crew the mistakes pile up and the left doesn’t know what the right is doing metaphorically speaking but here it was clear each knew instinctively what to do an
@No-mq5lw
@No-mq5lw 17 күн бұрын
@@maryeckel9682 In my experience, if the user has their real name in their handle or a picture of themselves in their profile, those lend itself to being real.
@RobKinneySouthpaw
@RobKinneySouthpaw 17 күн бұрын
A bird strike is bad enough for the engine. The whole nest and tree is another level.
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 14 күн бұрын
Iirc they say Gagarin might have died to a bird colliding or about to collide with his plane. That info is old tho, I haven't checked any recent investigations in a while, maybe new elements have surfaced since. Edit The bird strike was an early theory, much more likely a friendly Su 15 accidentally descended so low and so close to Gagarin's MiG15 that the air flow turned the MiG around abd sent it spiraling down. The bird theory had been plausible until a more thorough investigation focused on the second plane.
@raptor124
@raptor124 14 күн бұрын
Let’s call it a bird house strike then
@whocoulditbe1090
@whocoulditbe1090 17 күн бұрын
The first officer seems like a great friend to have
@blackmusik109
@blackmusik109 16 күн бұрын
Former military pilot providing air support til the end 😂
@user-kb8gh5jv9t
@user-kb8gh5jv9t 14 күн бұрын
You know he is in the same aircraft as the Ca, right? They are in this together! What do you think he should have done?
@----.__
@----.__ 14 күн бұрын
@@user-kb8gh5jv9t He was in the same aircraft? Why didn't someone say? You should inform the NTSB of this crucial detail ASAP.
@priyv8710
@priyv8710 12 күн бұрын
@@user-kb8gh5jv9t Sadly there are many cases where the first officer couldnt/didnt do much to save themselves...the First officer in this case was proactive and helpful till the end...
@CieloNotturno86
@CieloNotturno86 11 күн бұрын
The kind who always encourages you :D
@danielsnook5029
@danielsnook5029 18 күн бұрын
Living life as an ILS antenna is hazardous.😂
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 18 күн бұрын
lol
@highjared8199
@highjared8199 18 күн бұрын
so there I was, sending my radio waves, minding my own business, when this rude ass plane comes and hits me! unbelievable.
@oldhickory4686
@oldhickory4686 17 күн бұрын
Or an aircraft engine being used as a wood chipper...
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 17 күн бұрын
I'm waiting for someone to say "They're not alive, what are you talking about?" 😂😂😂
@wturn5354
@wturn5354 17 күн бұрын
Many years ago I was working a UAL flight DEN-LAX couldn’t pressurize out of 10k climbing out over the Rockies. It was a hot summer day using up all of the 12k foot 35L runway. He had to return and as he taxied in the orange LOC antennas were protruding from the bottom of the rear fuselage. It looked like a cooked lobster!
@justvid366
@justvid366 18 күн бұрын
Dear Petter! Please cover Alrosa Flight 514. It's a true miracle. Please like so that Petter will see it. UPD. Many English-language sources describing the event completely miss the key point what made this landing possible: after the airstrip was closed in the beginning of 2000th, it was used only as a helipad. However, the airport warden, Sergey Sotnikov, on his own initiative was himself cleaning the runway (!) and maintaining it in a good condition for 13 years despite the airport to be long closed without any hope of revival. When asked "why", he basically said that it was painful for him to see the runway in a bad shape. He was later awarded by then russian president Medvedev.
@Nayt1980
@Nayt1980 18 күн бұрын
Alrosa was miracle indeed! Deserved to be reviewed by Petter
@MikeHarris1984
@MikeHarris1984 18 күн бұрын
I just read it and agree. That would be an insane story. I wonder how they communicated with the tower with no power and radios were.down.
@TheMrWanes
@TheMrWanes 18 күн бұрын
There is no report of this incident, or at least I can't find one. But the story is well covered in pilots interviews and media and Petter did a couple of videos about incidents that wasn't covered by any reports. So I think it could be a great video
@TheMrWanes
@TheMrWanes 18 күн бұрын
​@@MikeHarris1984they didn't have radios. According to Andrei Lamanov(pilot flying on this flight) radios go down just as they try to communicate an emergency to the tower. As soon as it happened they broke through the clouds and started to look for a place where they could land or ditch an aircraft. They even tried to land it on some land strip, that turned out to be a huge swamp and they had to go around. But eventually they find an almost abandoned runway and after two attempts landed on it successfully
@TheMrWanes
@TheMrWanes 18 күн бұрын
Upd: I found one, but it was made by Росавиация(Russian aviation agency) and not by МАК(international aviation committee-IAC) and because of that it has not so many details in that
@northmaineguy5896
@northmaineguy5896 18 күн бұрын
I had posted elsewhere here but as a TRACON controller who was there that night, I just wanted to say that I listened to this with a very critical ear and you my friend get an A+ for accuracy, as well as the overall presentation! Thank you...
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 17 күн бұрын
👍
@jesserowlingsify
@jesserowlingsify 17 күн бұрын
mate, saw the drama in the replies to your other comment on this video. what you shared and your responses to various people were informative, interesting, and well-composed. i would advise you to ignore the vast majority of people who go on to engage with you in the replies to this and other comments on youtube. such people are never satisfied and you cannot win. don't be disheartened or offended by them - it's much better to starve them of oxygen by completely ignoring them.
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 17 күн бұрын
@Nicolas-ol7jl
@Nicolas-ol7jl 16 күн бұрын
The plane was safe no thanks to you. Dmbass
@northmaineguy5896
@northmaineguy5896 16 күн бұрын
@@Nicolas-ol7jlI wasn't working when it crashed Dmbass!
@tobiasbbaco
@tobiasbbaco 18 күн бұрын
I must be honest, a teardrop fell of my eyes when the FO called "god bless you we made it". What an incredible history, thanks Peter for sharing with us!
@missequestrian3448
@missequestrian3448 17 күн бұрын
Yep, I think it’s a big deal that he believed in him and encouraged him rather than freak out and second guess. I’d imagine it takes a lot to focus on your job and supporting the other in their job without trying to do it too. I think that attitude made/makes a big difference.
@varvarvarvarya
@varvarvarvarya 17 күн бұрын
God bless you, you made it. 37:17
@t3hwaddledee
@t3hwaddledee 17 күн бұрын
@@missequestrian3448Yes! Absolutely. Or imagine him just…hanging out awkwardly being totally silent except when he needed to say something. That’s a hell no from me. If I’m in an oh shit, possible life or death situation, and my fave coworker is there next to me, hearing words of encouragement over those goddamn warnings would mean SO fucking much. Like, even if the worst happened and we did go down, my best work bud believed in my skills till the end, you know? And if we made it like these guys? I’d be hugging that fucker so tight, not knowing how to repay him for just…believing we’d make it. I’m so glad this one had a happy ending. Hell, I’m glad people thought the initial tree hits were turbulence! I bet it helped keep the panic turned down a tiny bit at first.
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 17 күн бұрын
❤❤
@repatch43
@repatch43 15 күн бұрын
Hehe, same!
@anarchonobody
@anarchonobody 18 күн бұрын
Anytime there’s an elaborate description of anything that seems benign, I anxiously await to hear the words “Remember that” spoken with a slight nod and cryptic look in the eyes… when it happens, it’s like Christmas
@ambds1975
@ambds1975 18 күн бұрын
'Now, younger honey locust trees have bipinnate leaves, and leaf out in early May at this latitude... remember that.' Oh God Oh God it's Chekhov's Trees!
@maxtracker2904
@maxtracker2904 18 күн бұрын
Yes! 😂 I’m always like “Hmm…idk why we needed to know what the pilot’s CHAIR is made of… 🤔”. And then shit gets real 😳
@CKOD
@CKOD 17 күн бұрын
"Why has Petter been describing how the toilet systems work for the past 5 minutes..." 'Remember that' "Youre kidding me..."
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 17 күн бұрын
Or "keep that in mind" or "This will be imortant later".. Great stuff...
@donfitz927
@donfitz927 17 күн бұрын
Hehe I agree - it’s funny how those quirks of delivery endear us to the storyteller and the story - I think it’s the aspects of repetition and echoing that draw us to series types of stories - like sitcoms of old or the KZfaq equivalent with any story that has both dynamic and repetitive elements. The repetitive aspects excuse comfort listening even given the topic :)
@tag180rotax
@tag180rotax 18 күн бұрын
I love the ones with good airmanship and happy endings
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 17 күн бұрын
@ballaking1000
@ballaking1000 8 күн бұрын
With happy endings comes good airmanship.
@DeadDancers
@DeadDancers 17 күн бұрын
I love that the first officer was helping without taking over - and starting a ‘fight for control’ - reasonable suggestions, questions and encouragement.
@imfree62
@imfree62 17 күн бұрын
Agreed...way too often, both pilots start trying to run the controls in often opposing settings and make matters worse or cause the crash. This First Officer was the guy I would want up there running things with the Captain if I was on a plane.
@kay9549
@kay9549 16 күн бұрын
Yes that is a refreshing note anadotely. Realizing we are going back a number of years. Its a blessing that the cockpit crew worked together. Even though the only injury was the craft itself, surprizingly was fixed remained in service for many years.
@TexasCat99
@TexasCat99 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, unlike one of the other videos in which the pilots were lazy, talking about other things and tried to force a landing rather than a go around - killing pretty much everyone on the plane. No teamwork at all when it was needed.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 16 күн бұрын
@@kay9549 One thign I learned int he army.... good teamwork can be the difference between life and death.,
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 4 күн бұрын
Pricy logging style to be avoided.
@erichurst2496
@erichurst2496 18 күн бұрын
I’m a tv news photographer and was at the airport after the incident. Soaking wet passengers in their socks in the terminal. We got to go to the tarmac to see the plane and it looked like someone walked down the leading edge of the wings hitting them with a baseball bat. No doubt a few inches lower would have caused a crash. My favorite sound bite was someone upset that the pilots didn’t make an announcement after the impact inform them of the problem.
@sethrosenblum2878
@sethrosenblum2878 17 күн бұрын
That's very funny. Some people really do have main-character syndrome.
@alexandermonro6768
@alexandermonro6768 17 күн бұрын
I think that the flight crew might have been a bit too busy to think about making announcements at that time...
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 17 күн бұрын
They probably would have freaked out and become a security risk 😂 not that cockpit didn't have better things to do right then
@robertkrein8016
@robertkrein8016 17 күн бұрын
How stupid some people
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 17 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your Experience!👍
@lynniepage4994
@lynniepage4994 18 күн бұрын
I was a cabin crew member of a USair flight that landed just prior to the American. It was a nerve wracking approach - weather was terrible with many strong gusts, shifts and high potential for windshear. (I kept hoping the pilots would divert). Strong turbulence at low altitude and I wasn't really surprised when I heard the morning news about this incident.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 17 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your Experience!
@baptistebauer99
@baptistebauer99 16 күн бұрын
This is the type of stories I absolutely love. I always keep on thinking about everybody that was around during these incidents, I can even remember myself telling my peers "don't worry, pilots know how to fly in these conditions" and I think about all the passengers who told themselves the same thing right before the plane hit the trees. I imagine some people getting home to their wives in your flight saying "that landing was an absolute nightmare, I'm surprised we made it", wife thinks he's probably exaggerating it, just to see the news that the literal next flight had an almost lethal incident. I'm imagining these things, but I do love stories. Thanks for sharing yours :)
@PushyPawn
@PushyPawn 18 күн бұрын
One Swiss cheese slice away from a BBQ.
@BlairAir
@BlairAir 18 күн бұрын
Nah... more like a Havarti or a Lacey Swiss. The holes are smaller, which saved many lives. Jarlsberg, and it would be all over, Jarlsberg being a cross between Gouda and Emmental (Swiss) cheese.
@FlyWithFitz81
@FlyWithFitz81 18 күн бұрын
The swiss cheese model of pooping ones' pants.
@llMarvelous
@llMarvelous 17 күн бұрын
What I can’t understand is why so much important data crucial for safety still being calculated by the pilots?! Why don’t they use gps and radars for determining the height, for example?
@keelanrose5706
@keelanrose5706 17 күн бұрын
@@llMarvelous well, it was 1995
@llMarvelous
@llMarvelous 17 күн бұрын
@@keelanrose5706 it became available for aviation in 1994 technically, but you right of course But aren’t they still doing the thing?
@pi-sx3mb
@pi-sx3mb 17 күн бұрын
I was an AA S80 CA at the time this occurred. I'm going to say with absolute certainty that the trap this crew fell into could happen to any crew on the wrong day at the wrong time. So it was eventually a great CRM class example that everyone learned from. Yes they made mistakes, but the conditions they faced and the rapidity of having to deal with several nonstandard issues put them behind the curve in the blink of an eye. I have seen a few situations where things just go all to hell that fast. Late at night, probably some fatigue setting in, crazy weather - they got loaded up pretty quickly. Once they hit the trees it was pure airmanship that got them to the lip of the overrun. That and about a million angels holding the plane up in the sky. No one liked the old school method of dive-and-drive down to a non-precision MDA which was a procedural option at the time, but it's easy to imagine the desire to do so in this case because of being anxious to acquire the runway visually. Also, the altimeter QFE settings below 10,000' was unique to AA and it was weird using your standby altimeter as the primary altitude reference. Good riddance to that procedure shortly after this incident. That approach to RWY 15 looks a bit intimidating even in clear weather with the high ridge line right below you. I can easily imagine drifting below the MDA because 1. using VOR to track a course was a very rare occurrence, and 2. the crosswind drift meant an expected automation aid was suddenly not available and the CA was literally flying by the seat of his pants and transitioning to hand-flying under mounting duress. The picture in the hanger afterward was insane with that HUGE THICK branch sticking out of - I forget - either the wing leading edge or the engine intake. I was amazed it wasn't a hull loss. I actually flew that plane a few times after it returned to service. It acquired a few nicknames - "Hartford Garden Weasel", "Hartford Weed Whacker", Hartford Wood Chipper", etc. At some point a creative Captain took a black magic marker, and on the left windshield pillar covered with that lovely blue-green foam, drew a vertical line about 6 inches high with 7 horizontal hash marks on it representing a scale gradation superimposed on the lower windshield corner view. At the bottom of the scale he wrote "Good trees" and at the top of the scale he wrote "Bad Trees". Pilot humor.
@palemale2501
@palemale2501 18 күн бұрын
Love Petter saying, "Things were not great,...... but they were about to get a LOT worse"
@petmath2073
@petmath2073 17 күн бұрын
Best is "...now things start happening very quickly..."
@Eddyspeeder
@Eddyspeeder 17 күн бұрын
And make sure you're sitting down when he says: "This is where things really started getting out of control."
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 17 күн бұрын
It's like reading Checkov - but much accelerated.
@patmx5
@patmx5 16 күн бұрын
And reading these quotes, in my mind I hear them in his voice.
@borientalis6917
@borientalis6917 18 күн бұрын
20:56: I like how the leftmost guy in the control tower has a coffee cup balanced on his wrist and he's looking at it like a watch. "What time is it son?" "It's exactly coffee o'clock sir!"
@JJStetson
@JJStetson 17 күн бұрын
“Excuse me, I happened to be passing, and I thought you might like some coffee”
@notsam498
@notsam498 17 күн бұрын
What in the mid journey!
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 17 күн бұрын
The CGI guy must have had an object misnamed or something. Like large coffee mug was instead called watch. 😅
@barbarajeffries
@barbarajeffries 17 күн бұрын
The 4 female controllers in their fancy dress caught my eye...😜
@lo666zz
@lo666zz 17 күн бұрын
​​@@JJStetsonthat's funny Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home 😂
@firstnamelastname5474
@firstnamelastname5474 18 күн бұрын
I loved that CRM and cockpit work by the flight crew specially the FO. Sometimes, a little encouragement and help goes a long, long way. But also how ingenious was the captain's idea with the flaps, even if to an extent, they played a role into this incident happening, I'd still gladly fly with a crew like them on my plane.
@KoeiNL
@KoeiNL 18 күн бұрын
Having someone believe in you can sometimes just make that little bit of difference.
@saberconvoyaviation8674
@saberconvoyaviation8674 18 күн бұрын
Tell me about it. That extending the flaps when they did gave the flight enough of a ‘bounce’ to get over the fencing, which prevented an actual crash. Gotta give credit where it is due!
@viaportuensi
@viaportuensi 17 күн бұрын
There seemed to be some stuttering though when the FO was communicating. I would imagine that is due to the huge pressure in the situation? When I am overloaded I tend to lock up as well like an old computer experiencing a memory overflow. But aren't pilots trained for these situations that they should have everything mapped out so that these "moments" shouldn't happen?
@Darkfyyre
@Darkfyyre 16 күн бұрын
@@viaportuensi even the most rigorously trained will have their moments - after all, no matter how realistic the training, you subconsciously know that you're safe. the stakes aren't real. you could botch everything and you'll still walk out of that cockpit, a mere simulator, without a scratch. the real thing is an entirely different situation, y'know? but even in spite of some stammering, they did the single most important thing a pilot can do in any situation: they landed the plane. not in one piece, not perfectly, but by the most important criteria - everyone surviving - they landed the dang thing. so, a bit of a vocal tremor and some uncertainty can honestly be expected from time to time, but getting the task at hand done is far more important than keeping a totally level voice, in the end.
@j.o.1516
@j.o.1516 6 күн бұрын
Neh, encouragement is not CRM. Calling out the height at the right time would have been.
@sailingrollingstone8723
@sailingrollingstone8723 17 күн бұрын
Those last few seconds were such a nightmare. The pilots were genuine flyers, each playing their role so excellently, and recovering from a situation that would have sunk many less CRM savvy and skilled crews. The first officer in particular got the gear down and made the right calls. Brilliant teamwork. All while being in blistering rain and turbulence. "God bless you, you made it" says it all.
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 17 күн бұрын
@michaelaxtell592
@michaelaxtell592 18 күн бұрын
I watch almost all the plane crash documentary's but mentor pilot is the only channel I've truly learned from. The way Peter explains anything from systems to now the weather is thorough and very well said
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 17 күн бұрын
@lawnmanmartinfan7909
@lawnmanmartinfan7909 17 күн бұрын
Not only is his information accurate but it's articulated to the common man. I am not a pilot and I don't even fly as a passenger On planes. these episodes I have learned quite a bit. For some reason I just can't seem to stop watching his channel.😊 Thank you
@saberconvoyaviation8674
@saberconvoyaviation8674 18 күн бұрын
I’ve researched this one before. Very interesting how they cleared the fence by deploying the flaps at the last second, getting enough of a ‘bounce’, so to speak, to get over the fence without hitting it.
@craigbmm4675
@craigbmm4675 18 күн бұрын
what aircraft type is this ? interesting
@saberconvoyaviation8674
@saberconvoyaviation8674 18 күн бұрын
McDonnell Douglas MD-83. An older aircraft
@Powerranger-le4up
@Powerranger-le4up 18 күн бұрын
I learned about it through the play, Charlie Victor Romeo.
@saberconvoyaviation8674
@saberconvoyaviation8674 18 күн бұрын
I actually research aviation accidents to see what is done to make aviation safer, so that is how I found out about this one a few years ago.
@user-pr4gv3tw8i
@user-pr4gv3tw8i 18 күн бұрын
Regarding the change in flap setting, it's like the reverse of the Heathrow 777 crash. I guess its the difference between needing to extend the glide length, as opposed to gaining enough height to be safe. Great video, thanks.
@chefjlevy87
@chefjlevy87 18 күн бұрын
I was 8 when this happened, and remember it. I live below the runway 6 approach, and remember they put lights atop the hill the plane grazed. Thank you for covering this one!
@barbarawilcox182
@barbarawilcox182 17 күн бұрын
It had no lights before???
@SuperCatacata
@SuperCatacata 17 күн бұрын
@@barbarawilcox182 Many things that seem obvious to us now are only obvious because of what has happened to make it common sense. Everyone probably just assumed that they weren't needed if the pilots followed procedure properly. Even thinking about how you used to be able to talk to the captain and co-pilot before 9/11 seems absurd now.
@chefjlevy87
@chefjlevy87 16 күн бұрын
@@barbarawilcox182 No lights before this incident.
@Jablicek
@Jablicek 18 күн бұрын
My youngest child think it's macabre to listen to these case studies, but I find them some of the most inspirational things to listen to. And that's an overused word, but there's something we can all learn from people who work a problem and fight to the very end. Sometimes it's about how to work, or not work, with others, sometimes it's about letting go of your ego, and sometimes it's about listening to the voice beside you telling you that you've got this and you can do it.
@imfree62
@imfree62 17 күн бұрын
Sometimes these case studies make me have to go outside for a walk and some air when you see the incompetence. Pilots need to learn to keep their eyes on certain instruments at all times. No excuse for not knowing altitude and speed etc especially as they are landing . I have operated plenty of machinery and know what indicators always have top priority and absolutely have to be within a certain range and I do not forget that even if I have been with no sleep in 24 hours or more. Doctors, for example operate under stress as much as pilots and are often without sleep within 24 hours...pilots should be able to do the same. Maybe they should have built in potties in the pilot chairs, lol , because it seems a lot of episodes turn to disaster at the same time one of the pilots has decided to take a pottie break and the same thing with air traffic controllers.
@captainjimolchs
@captainjimolchs 15 күн бұрын
@@imfree62 Fascinating thought! Could you guide me to some incidents where a bathroom break was a factor?
@cherylremington8272
@cherylremington8272 7 күн бұрын
As a mechanic (cars, not airplanes), I love the time you take to explain the technical and mechanical systems that come into play in these incidents. Thank you for making such interesting and high-quality videos.
@Lisa99913
@Lisa99913 18 күн бұрын
This guy just explained high and low air pressure, and what it looks like on a forecast map, better than any science teacher I ever had!!! Actually visualising it like hills and valleys, and how the wind changes when the hills are steep… it finally makes sense!!!
@theAessaya
@theAessaya 17 күн бұрын
That was, indeed, an amazing visual aid. The terrain maps also utilize a similar system of contour lines (lines that connect points of same altitude) that actually work in exactly the way described. So it makes this analogy for weather maps even stronger.
@mortekaieve4729
@mortekaieve4729 17 күн бұрын
Take some aviation weather courses if you’re interested in that stuff, they keep it pretty clear and concise, easy to understand.
@carlonevs2137
@carlonevs2137 17 күн бұрын
Totally agree. THIS GUY IS REALLY GOOD AT TEACHING.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 17 күн бұрын
Yes, indeed.
@californiahiker9616
@californiahiker9616 17 күн бұрын
Totally agree!
@durdleduc8520
@durdleduc8520 18 күн бұрын
i think this might be one of my favorite stories just because it shows how redeemable absolutely devastating mistakes can be. one bad slip up can down an aircraft, but one good call can save it, too.
@dottoremabuse5729
@dottoremabuse5729 16 күн бұрын
I WAS THE ILS at the near end of RW-15 THAT NIGHT! I had proudly served as ILS localizor for RW-33 - but I knéw something bad was going to happen!! Even my grandpa - an old lightbulb at a firestation - had warned me of ever getting involved w. the aeronautics industry! But there I was.... first getting pelted by rain - and then - right out of the dark black night - a landing gear hit me right in the array'! - Can you imagine how that feels?? To add insult to injury the tail end of the airplane smacked me something fierce and spread me across the tarmac. Only upside was that my aluminium got recycled and parts of me are now resting on beachtables on Hawaii :- )
@stevebelzer4758
@stevebelzer4758 14 күн бұрын
Peter - I was a newly minted AA MD-83 Capt in 1997 1. Entirely accurate exquisite detailed narrative /debrief - AA MD80 Fleet Manager used this in new upgrade CRM 2. You are a WONDERFUL master storyteller besides teaching skills -this is a lost art Your timeline , great narrative skills had me on the edge of my retired seat You ALSO eloquently painted a accurate picture of how BUSY the MD80 AA non precision cockpit WAS (nightmare seems prehistoric now ) In 1997 AA was transitioning entire fleet we were limited to visual and non precision for 6 months NOTE : AA after this and the 757 Cali Columbia recognized NONE of AA pilots or fleet had integrated radio altimeter into scan which may have prevented both terrain isssues ALL AA fleets mandatory “RADIOMETER ALIVE “ call (it wakes up 2,500 feet AGL) The 767 was a dream - u finished last 8 years just LAX HAWAII 6x per month - no weather , light winds scattered showers ❤that was my airline pilot dream job SIA 747-400 Contract Capt another nightmare company and procedures 😂
@EpicJoshua314
@EpicJoshua314 18 күн бұрын
This video was much better than the Mayday/Air Crash Investigation episode on American 1572
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 18 күн бұрын
Thank you! We always try to outdo those guys 😂
@abwnizami
@abwnizami 18 күн бұрын
Very good than all other stuff
@AllRounderKartik
@AllRounderKartik 18 күн бұрын
😂😂​@@MentourPilot
@cherriberri8373
@cherriberri8373 17 күн бұрын
​@@MentourPilot it's not very hard to outdo them, but you make it look like you have their budget on top of your own oftentimes!
@tabby7189
@tabby7189 17 күн бұрын
​@@cherriberri8373 have to agree they're not tough competition
@ImRanger
@ImRanger 18 күн бұрын
I see mentour pilot. I click. Simple life,
@YunoYudu97
@YunoYudu97 18 күн бұрын
Same
@tyelerpresgraves2696
@tyelerpresgraves2696 18 күн бұрын
100% concur 👌
@simofran6456
@simofran6456 18 күн бұрын
It’s that simple really
@WinterDew.Studio
@WinterDew.Studio 18 күн бұрын
True💯
@LeeannG
@LeeannG 18 күн бұрын
Samesies
@robertpierce1981
@robertpierce1981 17 күн бұрын
Bless the copilot for his praise and encouragement during maximum stress
@joshuagabe
@joshuagabe 17 күн бұрын
Better Help is not a good company
@camilamarturet1604
@camilamarturet1604 14 күн бұрын
What happened?
@methany8788
@methany8788 13 күн бұрын
​@@camilamarturet1604 Search for "betterhelp ftc" to start with. In my opinion, it is generally good practice to stay clear of sponsors from fields like this (health, and to a lesser extent, finance). It is just too hard to vet them properly, and too much harm can come from it.
@SugarySerial
@SugarySerial 11 күн бұрын
@@camilamarturet1604they violated their privacy policy, sold customers' sensivitive personal data to Facebook, Pinterest, etc. and lied about it. That's not to mention numerous issues with sketchy/unprofessional providers.
@biscuit715
@biscuit715 18 сағат бұрын
​@@camilamarturet1604their "therapists" are not all licensed and very unprofessional. Was a big drama about it couple years ago and people just started taking their money again anyway.
@anthonyobrien3841
@anthonyobrien3841 18 күн бұрын
I really hope those guys kept their jobs. Even though they made an error, keeping cool (when the trees hit the fan) is a trait every good airline needs.
@Wargasm54
@Wargasm54 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, I just made a post about whether they should keep their jobs or be fired. I don’t know what ultimately happened. They did get everyone on the ground alive. But they did cause an almost fatal error. I’m undecided but leaning towards they should keep their jobs. The weather, lousy runway design with terrain right in front of the decent path, the tower wasn’t fully operational…a lot of holes in the Swiss cheese model lining up against them. But they did line up a couple of holes themselves. So a tough call really. Just glad everyone lived to talk about it.
@aadityadatir6456
@aadityadatir6456 17 күн бұрын
Just an avgeek so take my words with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty sure pilots dont lose their jobs if they make mistakes, unless gross or intentional negligence is found
@stormix5755
@stormix5755 17 күн бұрын
@@Wargasm54 I once heard a story from an apprentice working in some sort of large industrial factory. He had made a small but very costly mistake which ended up damaging a piece of million dollar equipment. He was terrified that he'd be fired but his manager just said "we spent a million (i don't remember how much it was just a lot of money) dollars training an employee who will never make this mistake again, why would we fire you?" Also, another story from an intern who accidentally deleted an entire database without backing it up by entering a slightly incorrect command. The entire team had to pull an archived copy and spend weeks fixing it. He also got the same explanation about not being fired.
@tumbleweed6492
@tumbleweed6492 17 күн бұрын
Wow.
@sebastianwittmeier1274
@sebastianwittmeier1274 16 күн бұрын
​@@stormix5755Read the same story in a book about IBM and a manager there. Either it is an urban legend attributed to lots of cases, or people in charge heard about it and used the phrase, when _their_ employees made such mistakes.
@TwoWheeledExplorer955
@TwoWheeledExplorer955 18 күн бұрын
Green dot aviation yesterday and Mentor pilot today? What a weekend!!! Alls we need now is Disaster Breakdown tomorrow 🤣
@jumpingalex2798
@jumpingalex2798 18 күн бұрын
the triad
@pjaypender1009
@pjaypender1009 18 күн бұрын
If you're leaving out Pilot Debrief You're missing out.
@baumkuchen6543
@baumkuchen6543 18 күн бұрын
Uh... I didn't know about disaster breakdown. Thanks mate!
@TwoWheeledExplorer955
@TwoWheeledExplorer955 18 күн бұрын
@@pjaypender1009 huh, ngl I never heard of them, thanks dude!
@gtgibb
@gtgibb 17 күн бұрын
This one would have been great with a special appearance from Weather Girl Chloe
@danielyowiehoward8818
@danielyowiehoward8818 17 күн бұрын
The FO encouraging the captain is so amazing; it should be common place but thankfully these circumstances aren't common place. Im just glad everyone survived and had a heck of a story to tell!
@kay9549
@kay9549 16 күн бұрын
danielyowiehoward8818 its a blessing that they worked well, with one another. Even though there errors during the flight, bad weather, having not been given a metrologicical update; they as a team were able to bring the craft to a safe landing; even though there was extensive damage to craft, it was repaired and continued flying for many years. Well done AA crew, no injuries other than the aircraft.
@WillNaude
@WillNaude 7 күн бұрын
I am the owner of a car service centre . One of my mechanics failed to fasten a rear brake caliper proprerly on a customers vehicle . It came loose! Two day later the customer called from a town 500 km's away reporting that he had to stop at another workshop to sort out the problem . No one was hurt and no damage was done . My initial response was to give the mechanic a proper tongue lashing and final warning .Because of watching and learning from the mentour pilot ,I thought about it and approached the situation differently . I took into account that this mechanic has not had a mishap in two years and that he was working on two cars intermitantly . ....which was the actual root cause of the incident . We now have preventative measures in place .ps. I am thankful that we work on cars and not aircraft !
@dougdeepdown
@dougdeepdown 18 күн бұрын
PETTERHELP YES! BETTERHELP NO!!!! Apart from that... awesome breakdown and quality again MP. Chapeau!!
@pjaypender1009
@pjaypender1009 18 күн бұрын
Better Help NO. I can't respect anyone who shills for that crappy company.
@choahjinhuay
@choahjinhuay 18 күн бұрын
That little questionnaire they ask you to fill out when you sign up, they sell that!
@DanielBeecham
@DanielBeecham 17 күн бұрын
Maybe the deal was made before the news came out... making these videos got to take some time, and I can imagine that these types of deals are made way in advance... then scheduling videos and stuff like that...
@dougdeepdown
@dougdeepdown 17 күн бұрын
@@DanielBeecham yes in all probability.. The balance between financial sponsorship and continuing to create great content with the overheads/costs that entails can be a difficult balance sometimes.. I think we all have "blurred boundaries" in certain situations.. Especially in the financial reward sector!! I know I have!!
@nichfra
@nichfra 15 күн бұрын
​@@DanielBeecham it's been over a year since the FTC settled with them and the criticism has been going on even longer. Usually KZfaq sponsorships aren't done that far in advance.
@ncc74656m
@ncc74656m 18 күн бұрын
Aviation disasters AND lines on maps??? This Mentour and William Spaniel fan is a happy cat.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 18 күн бұрын
Awesome! Welcome
@DavidSmith-vr1nb
@DavidSmith-vr1nb 18 күн бұрын
I miss Mentour dog, but I guess that's the price we pay for the increase in production values.
@ivertranes2516
@ivertranes2516 18 күн бұрын
Oh yeah! I remember his puppers used to always be in his vids! Hey Petter, how are your canine companions doing?
@Eddyspeeder
@Eddyspeeder 17 күн бұрын
This line also works for Map Men fans
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 17 күн бұрын
@@ivertranes2516 Both Patxi and Molly are great. They bark too much to be part of the production, now that we have moved to a studio 😂
@ThunderChasers
@ThunderChasers 15 күн бұрын
The coolest part of these videos is seeing comments from people who were directly involved in some way.
@rameshnaidunooknaidu7810
@rameshnaidunooknaidu7810 15 күн бұрын
Ditto,👍👍👍
@robertscheinost179
@robertscheinost179 7 күн бұрын
This is my local airport. I live about 30 miles away. I remember when this incident happened. It was all over the TV news channels for a few days, back when people actually watched the local news channels. There was a reporter who interviewed a person who went to where the plane first hit the trees so he could gather a tree branch as a memento of his brush with death. His praise of the pilots' actions was profuse with gratitude for their flying skills. Close shave!
@marilestrauss3908
@marilestrauss3908 18 күн бұрын
The amount of information/knowledge pilots need to have and apply, is truly exceptional.
@wyskass861
@wyskass861 18 күн бұрын
Not exceptional. Just like every other field, if not less, than many professions.
@marilestrauss3908
@marilestrauss3908 18 күн бұрын
@@wyskass861 exceptional because 1) they have to work through all of it in a matter of seconds when something happens, and 2) the consequences of not having or applying it correctly is probably more serious than most professions.
@wyskass861
@wyskass861 18 күн бұрын
@@marilestrauss3908 True, but that's not "amount" of knowledge, but quick applications of well practiced procedures and consequences of wrong actions as you note. Not to take away from pilots as I am a private pilot myself, but it's not high intelligence or knowledge as much as disciplined recall of properly trained procedures and emotional control that matters most. Stay cool and execute what you practiced in emergencies. Majority of the pilot caused accidents, are pilotos losing their focus and doing the wrong thing when panicked. Task saturation is a killer, when the mind can forget to do the most basic tasks.
@byronjaffe518
@byronjaffe518 17 күн бұрын
⁠@@wyskass861- not to degrade your “non-pro” , as you are probably a professional in your own career - but knowledge , experience and judgement are critical in any field, especially when flying at hundreds of miles an hour. You should come and fly in the mountains of the Andes, with storms and controllers who barely speak English. You certainly do need a level of intellectually situational awareness and think way ahead , and be ready to make decisions when things go wrong.
@wyskass861
@wyskass861 17 күн бұрын
@@byronjaffe518 Sure. I wasn't meaning to imply the opposite, but to just highlight that it's not the amount of knowledge that's exceptional in aviation, but training and recall of procedures under pressure. Being an aerospace engineer and expert on all aircraft systems, weather and such.. won't help if you can' react to situations by consistently recalling basic procedures and focusing on tasks without being overwhelmed. As you said, thinking way ahead is from repetitive practice and not being surprised and overwhelmed by situations. Yes, of course knowledge judgement and experience are important, but that's not the exceptional aspect of being a good aviator. I am an engineer and want to understand everything about a machine and process, but in my pilot training, that was often more a hindrance, as executing procedures consistently and without too much thinking was more important. The less you have to think about things, the more tasks you can handle, and have more overhead available for deviations and unusual situations. In many of these stories it's most definitely not lack of knowledge but not executing basics that lead to disasters by pilots. More mental automation through training is primary.
@jameslimburn4210
@jameslimburn4210 18 күн бұрын
That was a nail-biter indeed! Great work from that pilot pairing. The mistake is forgivable given the workload and conditions. The recovery was heroic.
@wewk584
@wewk584 18 күн бұрын
yeah.. its a blessing when you can learn the lessons but without the cost of life.
@leeoldershaw956
@leeoldershaw956 17 күн бұрын
Mistakes like that are not forgivable. That's what they're paid the big bucks for.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 17 күн бұрын
@@leeoldershaw956 Pilots are not paid "big bucks," fool. Mistakes like that are forgivable.
@leeoldershaw956
@leeoldershaw956 17 күн бұрын
@RideAcrossTheRiver They are paid "Big Bucks" and mistakes like this one usually are fatal so they are unforgivable. I was one.
@Beautifulbrokenmusic
@Beautifulbrokenmusic 17 күн бұрын
@@leeoldershaw956 you sound like a mistake, yes
@henrydenner5448
@henrydenner5448 17 күн бұрын
"God bless you. You made it". Oh, I felt that one!
@northmaineguy5896
@northmaineguy5896 17 күн бұрын
Just another little tid-bit. As I said in another post, the MD-80 was towed to hangar on the field. About two days after the accident, an American DC-10 arrived from DFW with mechanics and parts; they swarmed that aircraft for a couple days and then it was flown back to Dallas at 10,000 ft, further repaired, and then returned to service.
@brianmoruska8314
@brianmoruska8314 18 күн бұрын
I was working at Bradley airport at that time with that incident happened. I came in the following morning to our hanger, which was business Express and saw the MD 80 sitting there in our hanger sideways with all the physical damage. They were very lucky after hitting those trees plane stay there for at least a week where they repaired it for flight back out, I thought I had some photos of it but it’s been a long time since that happened that I took great story Brian
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 17 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your Experience!
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 17 күн бұрын
Honestly I'm kinda amazed it wasn't a write-off. Flying into trees sounds like a very good way to do a lot of damage to an air frame.
@kellyalvarado6533
@kellyalvarado6533 16 күн бұрын
I have some pictures too. In a box somewhere in my basement. Watching this made me think about where that box might be. Haven't looked in years.
@michaeljuster67
@michaeljuster67 18 күн бұрын
Mentour Pilot, without a doubt the best aviation videos that go into serious details. Always warms my heart when you do MD80 videos Petter (8500 on that beautiful bird)…but any video from you is a MUST WATCH
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 17 күн бұрын
@raptor747-8
@raptor747-8 9 күн бұрын
Close isobars and “you’re in for a bit of a ride”, brilliant description
@Platypi007
@Platypi007 17 күн бұрын
That last minute flaps deployment was amazing. Not sure I've ever been on the edge of my seat this much when watching one of your videos.
@justicemaake684
@justicemaake684 18 күн бұрын
I'm very happy that the incident I've been eager to see it covered on this channel is finally been covered. I heard former NTSB investigator in Charge Bob Benson saying that as much as the crew made mistakes they showed great flying skills and averted a disaster and one of the investigators said something like "that was great flying if there's one" as they did everything right after hitting the trees.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 17 күн бұрын
Bob Benzon did even a Posting on this Comment Section hear! Really worth to read it!
@SuperDalite
@SuperDalite 18 күн бұрын
What an amazing skillset these two pilots have! God’s Blessings to them both indeed.
@GregorySmith-nh2wl
@GregorySmith-nh2wl 15 күн бұрын
As a tower controller who used to work at BDL, admittedly not during the incident, this hits very close to home and was why I watched this episode. It was the first time I had watched an episode by Petter and they are all just absolute quality. Keep up the good work.
@stephanielasnoski606
@stephanielasnoski606 16 күн бұрын
The first officer's words and actions made me cry! This is a beautiful story of two heroes! Thank you for sharing! Two heroes who exemplify what it is to be a pilot! "We're still flying!" Wow!😢❤
@isohaibamin
@isohaibamin 18 күн бұрын
I am no pilot or even engineer and never ever thought of becoming one. But it's been 4 days since I your video for the first time Sir and until now only watching your channel. I know my words means nothing comparing to the value you're putting in society. But I must say that you're doing a remarkable job on youtube because if I can understand your videos it means anyone can. Salute to you Sir.
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 17 күн бұрын
@Knife_Eclectic
@Knife_Eclectic 18 күн бұрын
Despite the crew being the initial cause, that move with the flaps was frankly pretty brilliant. At least the crew knew how to think on their feet as a team!
@robertkalinic335
@robertkalinic335 17 күн бұрын
No? One engine left and dying, second one completely dead. If they kept flaps to minimum and didn't extend the gear, they would maybe glide to landing with no problem.
@modallas8034
@modallas8034 16 күн бұрын
Mentour Pilot. That was a great build-up. I was sweating bullets as your description was just like being there. I was on a flight from Bangkok to Yangon. Part way out, we ran into engine problems. The pilot turned back to Bangkok. I noticed a spray coming out of the tip of the wing on my side of the aircraft. I looked over at the other wing, and it was doing the same thing. So, I realized it was controlled and was fuel being deliberately dumped. Then I heard this high-pitched whinning sound, which really shocked me until I realized it was due to the pump(s) struggling to pump out the last bit of fuel from the wings. We were flying very low over the jungle, but we came into the airport and landed with no problem. My legs were pumping faster than the pumps dumping the fuel, and took thirty minutes to stop after landing.
@medicussapiens
@medicussapiens 17 күн бұрын
A true story with maximum suspense until the very end, plus a good dose of first class education. It doesn't get any better than this. Thank you and all the best from Germany.
@ciaran2679
@ciaran2679 18 күн бұрын
I'm disappointed you're continuing to associate with Better Help, even after they have been caught lying about selling customer data
@ashleyobrien4937
@ashleyobrien4937 17 күн бұрын
REALLY ??!!! that's a very serious issue !
@MrUranium238
@MrUranium238 17 күн бұрын
everyone does it
@masso392
@masso392 17 күн бұрын
@@MrUranium238Oh so because everyone else does it that makes it ok?
@janerikkant3646
@janerikkant3646 17 күн бұрын
I believe the main controversy with BetterHelp is with some KZfaqrs and/or influencers to fake or exaggerate their own mental problems in order to promote BetterHelp. Secondly the payment scheme is not very clear (entire fee at the start) and thirdly the opt out for the collection and selling of data. For an honest company, especially when it’s about sensitive data like your (mental) health, it shouldn’t be opt out, nor should it be opt in. They shouldn’t want to sell that data at all.
@connorjones3080
@connorjones3080 17 күн бұрын
@@masso392yes
@Michaelzehr
@Michaelzehr 18 күн бұрын
As a cyclist I've seen the effects of sudden pressure changes on calculated elevation. I once cycled through a violent thunderstorm on a summer day in Florida. My cycling computer's quick profile afterwards showed I had climbed and descended a couple thousand foot hill!
@emilenossin5098
@emilenossin5098 17 күн бұрын
I never heard of a pressure altimeter for cycling, usually GPS. Must have been an ancient one?
@at1cvb417
@at1cvb417 17 күн бұрын
@@emilenossin5098 MEMS Barometers (micro-electromechanical systems) do not have to be that ancient, and many smart phones have them today, it is an easy way to determine altitude changes without using a lot of power.
@Michaelzehr
@Michaelzehr 17 күн бұрын
@@emilenossin5098 Garmin edge 520 I think, gps, but didn't automatically correct elevation. Approximately 2016, which is ancient times I suppose.
@Derkiboi
@Derkiboi 17 күн бұрын
​@@MichaelzehrI could see how for bike packing out of cell service, the baro would be better
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu 15 күн бұрын
Since you know pressure, can you please explain to me how their altimeters were wrong? At 22:21 in the video If the correct QNE 29.23 setting was put in the altimeters, why did the altimeters still show them above their true altitude? I still don't get how these work.
@petersellgren9452
@petersellgren9452 17 күн бұрын
I saw there at KBDL the next day. We saw the photos of the damage. It was incredible! They were very lucky! The other thing that amazed me was, American Airlines managed to keep the incident out of the national headlines. This incident later became a training exercise on SOPs and error chain management in recurrent training. My brother-in-law is a Captain at AA. He never know about this incident, until I told him about it. Life can be strange.
@meneldal
@meneldal 17 күн бұрын
I guess as long as nobody dies you can keep it pretty quiet. Plus it didn't look super flashy either.
@kokoBuSiLiCa
@kokoBuSiLiCa 17 күн бұрын
This episode shows the vast difference in mental capacity between pilots. The captain and the encouraging first-officer here have shown incredible cohesion which was probably one of the reasons they've made it. Great one to watch.
@TheWalterHWhite
@TheWalterHWhite 18 күн бұрын
Just when I thought I'd start studying... Mentour pulls me right back!
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 18 күн бұрын
Sorry! 😂
@norlockv
@norlockv 18 күн бұрын
Great story! You may want to let the animators know that nearly all North American major airports use jet bridges. I don’t think I’ve used stair/bus more than 5 times in the last 40 years.
@FlyWithFitz81
@FlyWithFitz81 17 күн бұрын
Better explanation of VOR, QNH, QFE and Transition Level than most of the material I am currently studying. You have a knack for communication!
@DanielBeecham
@DanielBeecham 17 күн бұрын
Every video I see from Mentour Pilot, I'm thinking to myself "I got to remember this, in case I want to become a pilot some day". Just seems like an absolute goldmine of information for pilots and pilot students
@marcellkovacs5452
@marcellkovacs5452 17 күн бұрын
The graphics and animations in this video were exceptionally good, kudos to whoever makes them
@Ivolutcion
@Ivolutcion 18 күн бұрын
You so do some research on your sponsor they sell client data.
@choahjinhuay
@choahjinhuay 18 күн бұрын
He’s said that he has and is ok with them now. 😞 He needs to do better research. Better Health is awful!
@GTR-gg9kp
@GTR-gg9kp 18 күн бұрын
I'm not a pilot but I really enjoy your videos and your experience is Top notch!! Hello from Houston Tx
@kaiperdaens7670
@kaiperdaens7670 18 күн бұрын
Same.
@kevinleesmith
@kevinleesmith 17 күн бұрын
Perfect quality, perfect length, perfect content, perfect narrator. Amazing.
@StarlightedWanderer
@StarlightedWanderer 16 күн бұрын
I was living just a few miles from BDL at that time. It was indeed a dramatically stormy night. I remember being awake at that hour, watching the storm. Thank God they landed safely.
@conferzero2915
@conferzero2915 18 күн бұрын
What an incredible sequence of events! That landing felt like a scene out of an action movie, heroic effort from both pilots.
@FluffyKL
@FluffyKL 18 күн бұрын
New Mentour pilot? Ahhh yes that’s how we start the morning🤩
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 18 күн бұрын
Excellent! Enjoy it
@rachmunshine9474
@rachmunshine9474 18 күн бұрын
@@MentourPilotThank you! Have a great weekend!❤
@FluffyKL
@FluffyKL 18 күн бұрын
@@MentourPilotthank you!
@nikanj
@nikanj 17 күн бұрын
This is unbelievable masterful piloting. The presence of mind required to make a split second decision to land when they had already decided to go around is astounding.
@captplaystation
@captplaystation 14 күн бұрын
Amazing work my esteemed colleague ( referring to you Petter ) . Mistakes were made , but these guys saved the day, & thank God one controller came back , big help in the post-crash for sure. I actually felt quite emotional in the last few min of the video to see that my beloved profession has value / purpose beyond what any accountant could ever understand, and that good airmanship / CRM can overcome some REALLY big shit.
@JohnDoe-tx8lq
@JohnDoe-tx8lq 18 күн бұрын
what a huge amount to learn and remember just for Air Pressure! When you add all information and procedures from all the videos on this channel about all the possible problems with those lives on board.. I could never, ever be a Pilot. 😯
@bookwoman40
@bookwoman40 18 күн бұрын
Sometimes it seems to me that pilots need a degree in meteorology. As always an impressive presentation.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 18 күн бұрын
We have to go through quite a lot of meteorology to pass the ATPL theory
@crazyralph6386
@crazyralph6386 18 күн бұрын
One could also argue that there are many pilots who would put a meteorologist to shame, in both theory and practice.
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 14 күн бұрын
"And now things start happening very quickly." When Petter says that... you know you're in for it!!
@jesusisking8502
@jesusisking8502 12 күн бұрын
Correct. It is up there with Star Wars "I've got a bad feeling about this"
@Palvader
@Palvader 17 күн бұрын
Amazing airmanship by these two pilots!
@Matt-gs5yo
@Matt-gs5yo 18 күн бұрын
Disappointed to see you selling Better Help. They are a very poor service with an extensive background of controversies
@wesss9353
@wesss9353 18 күн бұрын
Every KZfaqr shills stuff that you don't need. Skill share is a worse version of youtube for $139
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 18 күн бұрын
should we cancel MP?
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 17 күн бұрын
@@jamescollier3No, we should cancel BetterHelp!
@mantis0427
@mantis0427 18 күн бұрын
Those two competent pilots where exactly what we needed after the last video😅
@ewathoughts8476
@ewathoughts8476 17 күн бұрын
They were incompetent until they hit the trees.
@history_facts9
@history_facts9 17 күн бұрын
Exactly opposite.
@Benji-jj2bg
@Benji-jj2bg 17 күн бұрын
@@ewathoughts8476 i wouldnt say incompetent. I would say the system set up to gauge air pressure and altitude was flawed and the mistake they made was one anyone could have made. Also the tower person not updating the information before he left on a stormy day like that was messed up.
@leeoldershaw956
@leeoldershaw956 17 күн бұрын
They went way below the MDA . Just the pressure setting discrepancy was not enough to cause the accident.
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 17 күн бұрын
Yes.
@giogianni10
@giogianni10 17 күн бұрын
well this pilot duo was a complete 180 from the PIA one 2 weeks ago ahah. Phenomenal video again Petter!
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 17 күн бұрын
Yes, indeed.
@heirofaniu
@heirofaniu 17 күн бұрын
This incident could have been a scene I a movie and I would have called bullshit. The fact this really happened is nothing short of amazing.
@MegaDeth859
@MegaDeth859 18 күн бұрын
I was literally at the edge of my seat that last couple of minutes.
@user-zy3em2df6x
@user-zy3em2df6x 18 күн бұрын
Crew recovery was absolutely legendary!!!
@benjamin_markus
@benjamin_markus 17 күн бұрын
please stop promoting better help, it has been shown to be toxic, harmful and dishonest, and associating with it greatly hurts the air of professionalism the channel is rightly so proud of.
@fruity3693
@fruity3693 17 күн бұрын
He needs money bruv we all need money
@benjamin_markus
@benjamin_markus 17 күн бұрын
@@fruity3693 and it doesn't matter how? I'm not sure Petter would agree with that
@fruity3693
@fruity3693 16 күн бұрын
@@benjamin_markus if you don’t let him get the bag☠️☠️☠️
@HalfShelli
@HalfShelli 15 күн бұрын
Petter, seriously. There have been multiple credible exposés showing how awful BetterHelp is. Please reconsider them as a sponsor.
@graemewatson2296
@graemewatson2296 14 күн бұрын
Keep away form Psychs.
@joerivanlier1180
@joerivanlier1180 17 күн бұрын
Petter, I've heard a lot of pilot perspectives but as a firefighter, could you do one where you interview the firefighters and give the perspective of the firefightering crew. Things like how they attack the situation and what training they got, just like you do for pilots. I'm thinking of like the dubai fire but theres plenty of other accidents where the firefighters made the difference.
@crystalsoulslayer
@crystalsoulslayer 17 күн бұрын
This would be very interesting! IIRC he used to work as an airport firefighter, so I'm sure he'd have some great insights.
@CineMiamParis
@CineMiamParis 14 күн бұрын
I would absolutely love such a video. Also @joerivanlier, thank you for what you’re doing.
@Lashb1ade
@Lashb1ade 18 күн бұрын
This is an interesting one; the errors made by the pilots were all very subtle.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 18 күн бұрын
Very!
@byronjaffe518
@byronjaffe518 17 күн бұрын
That’s usually the case in many aviation stories. Catching the “errors” before it becomes serious is the main goal of course
@DanielBeecham
@DanielBeecham 17 күн бұрын
I could see the swiss cheese animation in my head, just as it popped up on screen
@sea-ferring
@sea-ferring 17 күн бұрын
Great video - I'm especially impressed with the pilots recovery from their error and their teamwork to get the plane down safely. True airmanship. Mistakes will always happen - it's what happens after mistakes that matters.
@debrawucik826
@debrawucik826 17 күн бұрын
It is the airmanship and CRM that made this a successful crash landing with no loss of life. I live near this airport, and know the area around BDL well. Good job, in a lousy situation.
@kikufutaba524
@kikufutaba524 17 күн бұрын
We always set our radar altimeter to the height desired for each segment, this gives us a backup alert if we were to decent to low for that segment of the approach.
@kc2076
@kc2076 18 күн бұрын
20:55 been holding my coffee wrong this whole time!
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 17 күн бұрын
Try it with water first and gradually work your way up to hot coffee. 😅
@imana4838
@imana4838 18 күн бұрын
Bravo to the pilot and copilot for keeping your cool 🌹
@MCMXI1
@MCMXI1 Күн бұрын
This is the best aviation channel on the Tube. The quality of your productions and the work you put into the subjects far and away exceed anything else. Each of these videos is a documentary that could air on TV. Keep up the great work.
@atorres8760
@atorres8760 17 күн бұрын
Not a pilot but absolutely love the physics of flying. You always make things so clear. Thank you!
@felipevernaza3108
@felipevernaza3108 18 күн бұрын
The MD-80 is such a beautiful aircraft.
@graceslick705
@graceslick705 16 күн бұрын
3 baggage compartments, they're a pain to load...
@nurrizadjatmiko21
@nurrizadjatmiko21 18 күн бұрын
I know this case a year ago from Air Crash Investigation also and when i watched it, i was surprised of how close they are to disaster. Even though the pilots made a mistake, CRM is still working until they made it to the runway without any engine power. Well done for those 2 pilots and Very good video, sir.👍
@joelzimmerman2462
@joelzimmerman2462 11 күн бұрын
Was a DC-8-70 F/0 flying into BDL on evenings when this incident happened. Drive n drive was how it was done, before CDA’s, VOR 15 was especially challenging due to the 8’s runway requirements and the terrain west of the airport. The ridge lines you mentioned on their approach is just West of the field. 38:17 Our ops specs were extremely limiting due to length of runway 15/33. At the time, I remember thinking, it was a miracle that they got this flight on the ground and no one died! Admiration to the skills of the pilots. Departures on RNY 33 required an immediate at 400 MSL RT turn to avoid that rigid line that they encountered. Thanks for your content!
@eamonnmorris5331
@eamonnmorris5331 17 күн бұрын
I have watched very many of these shows. I was sure that this flight had "bought the farm" when it struck the treetops. I was then absolutely certain when they did not have enough to make it to the runway. Then that little last minute 'trick' with the flaps saved the day. Mindblowing result! So happy!
@patrickbaumgardner2765
@patrickbaumgardner2765 18 күн бұрын
One does not simply see a new Mentour pilot video and immediately drop everything to watch! Brilliant as always good sir!
@bhrugup7618
@bhrugup7618 18 күн бұрын
Request to bring back those two little sleepy dogs back into the videos. Loved seeing the video, it was absolutely perfect and as informative as ever. Keep up the good work : )
@lesliecarr312
@lesliecarr312 17 күн бұрын
It's beautiful that this flight ended as well as it did in spite of the terrible conditions affecting crew and machines.
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