Mercedes 722.6 Limp mode. Fixed!

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Luke C

Luke C

6 жыл бұрын

This video shows what I had to do to get rid of a hard limp condition with codes p2602/P702 on a Mercedes c240 4matic. Conductor plate was replaced but it DID NOT resolve the issue. Solenoids ended up being the problem even though everything pointed to the conductor plate.
The conductor plate for this and other 722.6 vehicles:
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The solenoid kit for all 722.6 transmissions:
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The code reader I use, which works awesome on all vehicle models is:
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@standavis4111
@standavis4111 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your time and help in making this video! It was much-needed information on removal of the plate.
@Prophet10Joseph10
@Prophet10Joseph10 2 жыл бұрын
i really enjoyed your video. It was very informative and explained what i was wanting to know.
@deruin78
@deruin78 2 жыл бұрын
After watching your video I feel a little better about programming the conductor plate. My car did not give me any cod3s, but it does shift hard from 1st to 2nd when coldstar, but ones the car reaches a 180゚ it run smooth.
@1960livvy
@1960livvy 8 ай бұрын
Great video - thanks for posting and i'm sure it will help me with my limp mode 🙂
@NickHDvideo
@NickHDvideo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the info!
@late4suppa1
@late4suppa1 5 жыл бұрын
My 2012 Mercedes E350 overheated for just a second and I experienced a loss of power, but the engine still felt like it was running smooth, so I was happy to hear it may have went into limp mode. It's going to the mechanic tomorrow so we'll see. I parked it immediately and didn't restart it so I'm hoping like hell I didn't blow the engine. The car was from Florida and I'm in Maine. It was 17 degrees when all of this happened. I opened the hood and you could see spray on the engine cover. Care to speculate? Thanks
@conoosterwaal8721
@conoosterwaal8721 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being honest about other peoples input
@marcospennato6536
@marcospennato6536 2 жыл бұрын
Did you try to clear codes in trans and motor electronics and the drive it it should start shifting fine if its a conductor place and after 1 drive cycle the fault will return and shortly be back in limp mode
@ShadySoldier222
@ShadySoldier222 5 жыл бұрын
Will this work on my B150 auto? 🤔 its in limp mode 😣
@408DJGUERO
@408DJGUERO 4 жыл бұрын
Would you happen to know what the solenoid readings should be or where to find the info? I also already changed the conductor plate and problem still persist, TCM looks clean so I don't think that's the problem so the only thing left are the solenoids
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 4 жыл бұрын
J M I If I remember correctly the resistance should be 2.5-6.5 ohms. You can check individually if you have them out or through the round plug. You can also apply 12 v to test operation. I found information here: shop.ukrtrans.biz/wp-content/uploads/catalogs/722.6.pdf
@janberry2144
@janberry2144 3 жыл бұрын
HI Luke I have a Mercedes C320 and it was in mint condition. My partner sold it to me to keep it in the family. I had it for about 6 months and it purred. When the indicator came on to service the car I went to a local mechanic and after it also just purred. He said I had an oil leak and did not have enough time to fix that so I had to make another appointment and came back 2 weeks later. As soon as I left my car has been shunting and even has stalled. I went back to him and he said it was not the transmission and said it was idling low. So he raised the revs by not much and while we took it for a drive for me to show him the problem it did shunt and shudder while he was there. It does not do it all the time but mainly when breaking on a hill or leaving the stop lights etc. It still was shunting so I went to a transmission mechanic and he told me that it came up with this P2602 code. How can that happen after just an oil repair??? Do you have any advice? Much appreciated Jan
@johnbaxster8010
@johnbaxster8010 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes trans fluid gets into the transmission connector plug...easy to replace ..
@southerngirlchef5886
@southerngirlchef5886 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, can you please, please help me? I have a 04 C320 Mercedes. My car was doing the exact same problems you describe your car was doing. My car drive in 1st or 2nd gear ( it also was stuck in limp mode) it only drove up to 25-30 mph. My check engine light came on, I couldn’t go in reverse unless I turn my car off to change the gearshifts, it also jerked hard when shift in drive. The diagnostic verified only 1 code that the trans range circuit sensor went out/conductor. I forgot the numbers code. Nonetheless, I got my uncle to change it out today, however, it won’t move out of gears at all now. It's not even in limp mode (I don't know) My car won’t move at all now. 😭 Can you possible tell me what could’ve happened? What could it be now? 🤦‍♀️ I hope my question isn't stupid. 🤔
@philipgiordano5473
@philipgiordano5473 5 жыл бұрын
Luke, i have been reading so many sites for information to a similar problem. You must have been very frustrated, as am I. Thank you for your diligence i found it very valuable as I am sure many other have. Thank you< Phil
@olasaheed1109
@olasaheed1109 2 жыл бұрын
Pls help me out, my 2005 viano won't display PRND on the screen and my transmission won't select gear to second gear... Whenever I put on D or R it makes a hammering sound
@luisraymundo9980
@luisraymundo9980 2 жыл бұрын
I also replaced the conductor plate along with the electrical connector, fluid, filter, gasket. And it worked initially for about 30mins. Then it went back to limp mode , but also it would no longer accelerate (in drive or reverse) as if it was stuck in neutral. The solenoids looked pitted when I dropped the valve body but only tested resistance and they checked out fine. I’m thinking solenoids need to be changed , but do you think it could be something else as well? Given that when it’s cold, it’ll shift but once it warms up , it will not accelerate in drive or reverse .
@ulyssesallen9670
@ulyssesallen9670 Жыл бұрын
Change the transmission oil in the filter
@moviestudioland
@moviestudioland 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your very informative video!!!
@sefan1317
@sefan1317 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke, hope you’re still active here. I have the same symptoms as you minus the same engine code and was stuck in limp mode. First I had the P0709 code I believe which was for the input sensor but when I went to change the tcm, it fixed the issue for an hour before going back into limp mode with a different code telling me the pulsating solenoid was bad. So I replaced the conductor plate and all my solenoids to no avail. Still in limp mode. Could it be my tcm again?
@hajileserpud9539
@hajileserpud9539 Жыл бұрын
No it's the TCM that needs to have the computer board resolder
@BEAUTIFUL1877
@BEAUTIFUL1877 5 жыл бұрын
I need a handy man like you
@griffm5
@griffm5 5 жыл бұрын
good stuff explained well
@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr
@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr 4 жыл бұрын
Clarise?
@marcospennato6536
@marcospennato6536 2 жыл бұрын
Did u have any hard shifts before you did the conductor plate?
@orgolesu92
@orgolesu92 2 жыл бұрын
Ciao ho il tuo stesso problema P2602 ! ! ! come hai risolto? Ho sostituito la piastra ma non ho risolto. Devo sostituire i solenoidi?
@user-ou9wz1qh3h
@user-ou9wz1qh3h 2 жыл бұрын
what did you do to fix this issue
@florentlachance5559
@florentlachance5559 3 жыл бұрын
G 463, 1997, TD, the Mercedes mechanic has replaced the selenoy and body valve and the shifter. when we put the speed arm on the D, there is a delay of 5 seconds before doing the speed D. where is the problem? the mechanic thinks that the body valve is defective and replaces it with a new one. What do you think?
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 3 жыл бұрын
Your mechanic may be right but You can try searching your symptom online as it’s possible one of the springs in the valve body is broken, it’s also a common issue. There are kits you can install to tighten that up, they are very inexpensive and worth a try before purchasing a pricey valve body.
@tallalmoshrif6643
@tallalmoshrif6643 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke and thank you for the video, I replaced the connector, conductor plate without changing the selanoids, filter and gasket and the car is on Limp Mode with hard clutch sound when I shift from P to D or R. I went to clear all the codes that I had P0715 Input/Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit Malfunction P0753 Shift Solenoid A Electrical P0758 Shift Solenoid B Electrical P0763 Shift Solenoid C Electrical P0720 Output Speed Sensor Circuit Malfunction On a regular scanner not a MB , any thoughts?
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
What scanner did you use to clear the codes?
@racionator2668
@racionator2668 4 жыл бұрын
Look at the TCM. It must be covered in oil from the O ring 13pin plug. Yes it can go trough the harnes and fill that boi up. If it foesnt work that your cunducter plate is bad
@rnorfor2002
@rnorfor2002 4 жыл бұрын
Limp Mode ml350 i just turned my car uff and it fixed it but i wanna see whats wrong
@skipwilson5288
@skipwilson5288 2 ай бұрын
Great video Bro!!!!
@gabbylane136
@gabbylane136 5 жыл бұрын
I've replaced the conductor plate and transmission on my 2000 Mercedes e320...my first transmission wouldn't shift...now this one will shift...but It still want accelerate...it go in p,d,n,r but it barely move when do and I have esp elec.stabil.prog visit workshop on my dash what yu think my problem...ppl sayin I ned 2 get a tcm
@PartySearch247
@PartySearch247 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. My c240 has the same issues. Changed everything but the solenoids. Do you think if I just brought brand new solenoids, it would solve the issues. I have P0730 code. Thanks
@justinmarshall8077
@justinmarshall8077 3 жыл бұрын
Hey did you fix it
@paliuniskis1
@paliuniskis1 2 жыл бұрын
Need other transmission!
@treyslizz1733
@treyslizz1733 Жыл бұрын
Hey Luke I have a 99 Mercedes Benz clk 320 and I changed the conductor plate because one of the the pins where the electoral plug, plugs into the conductor plate broke and it wouldn't shift out of first gear..... But I put a aftermarket conductor plate in and it still won't shift out of first gear..... Do u have a solution to this problem?
@worldwidesports4k
@worldwidesports4k 2 ай бұрын
How did you fix that no shifting problem.
@delmytruelement3569
@delmytruelement3569 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think if you would have used the valve body with conductor plate and solenoids that your computer would have recognized the different setup or it would work with any 722.6 thanks for your video
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 4 жыл бұрын
Del Mytruelement not sure of what you are asking...if you have a whole spare setup then install it complete if you want, the valve body is not “coded” like the newer transmissions and does not need reprogramming.
@delmytruelement3569
@delmytruelement3569 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much I will be going to pick pull now that’s information that nobody’s given
@donaldskosaan3330
@donaldskosaan3330 2 жыл бұрын
I’m driving an X156, a 722.9 automatic transmission box. I had a transmission malfunction notice on my instrumental cluster at 160000km. Car was still driving fine. I took it in for a transmission service. They changed the oil, filters and the gasket. Car came back still driving fine but the notification still comes up every now and then. Recently it triggered an engine light and when diagnosed it has no codes. I took the car back to the dealership & now they want to replace my conductor plate. The part is very expensive, my car is not on limp mode, gears shift fine as they supposed to I’m just irritated by the notification. Any idea what could be the cause? Please assist.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 2 жыл бұрын
The 722.9 is a different transmission, from what I know the conductor plate is part of the valve body so an easy repair can no longer be done even though that transmission suffers from the same issue…engineering at its finest. Sorry can’t help.
@hochiminhliba5439
@hochiminhliba5439 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there I have a mercedes w211 E320 not shifting at all, I changed the transmission 2 time but still not shifting. All the rest funcion of the car are working fine...what to recommend me to do?
@paliuniskis1
@paliuniskis1 2 жыл бұрын
Check oil coms from wire harness to your electronic part
@natashabanister1531
@natashabanister1531 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very helpful!
@khasyafsufiadmin4069
@khasyafsufiadmin4069 3 ай бұрын
I have the same issue valve body,transmission plate,soleinod all have replace but still in limp mood n when change to D n R the car jerking......please help me
@asakiaog7463
@asakiaog7463 2 ай бұрын
Same problem boss😭 have you been able to solve it?
@StephenKobbieTornado
@StephenKobbieTornado 2 жыл бұрын
Please can you swap the 722.6 transmission ecu from another car? And is that going work without programming? Thank you
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I swapped them back and forth when I was troubleshooting and they plug and play.
@chrismontreuil2206
@chrismontreuil2206 5 жыл бұрын
You did a good job. I am messing with the same problem.
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
What does the transmission do?
@DaiLenMatHo
@DaiLenMatHo 5 жыл бұрын
You might replace the shift module...which is cheaper and easy job!!!
@Change-Maker
@Change-Maker 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dima-jq3mj it takes power from the engine and converts it via gears to make the wheels turn efficiently and smoothly.
@2Cheap4society
@2Cheap4society 6 ай бұрын
Hi luke, I bought a 2000 E320 W210 wagon that had a bad transmission conductor plate. the guy i bought it from had messed with it and it was bad. I replaced the transmission with a transmission from a car I had been driving that works perfect. I put the transmission in place of the bad transmission but it is in limp mode. I know the transmission I put in it is good and now I am stumped? Where are the transmission codes logged? The transmission computer or the car ecm? Thank you patrick!
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 6 ай бұрын
It’s been years since I did this video. I would check and make sure your tcm matches the transmission you put in. Also if the previous owner messed with the conductor plate then check the plug and pins to make sure that all of that is seated correctly. Otherwise I won’t be able to help in any other way.
@johnbarry2976
@johnbarry2976 6 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot jb
@victorgojocco1716
@victorgojocco1716 5 ай бұрын
so your video is suggesting to change the whole transmission???!!😣
@MasterTechLou
@MasterTechLou 5 жыл бұрын
replaced conductor plate on a whim, wonders why codes till persist. proper diagnosis is always needed. too many people condemn the conductor plate for the wrong codes. glad you got it fixed but please make sure next time you perform proper diagnosis, and you do need the proper scanner to erase codes from the tcm.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 5 жыл бұрын
Benz-Tech Lou P. Lol this car sat at Mercedes for 3 days and they told me I needed a valve body. And yes, you need a special scanner which I have. Cheers
@MasterTechLou
@MasterTechLou 5 жыл бұрын
Sad but not all dealers have quality technicians, sorry that happened. Probably got a new guy that diagnosed your car. :(
@DaiLenMatHo
@DaiLenMatHo 5 жыл бұрын
I had same problems and more. Dealer wants to charge 300 for general scanning, then another 300 for the transmission issue. I told dealer to F... off!!!
@DaiLenMatHo
@DaiLenMatHo 5 жыл бұрын
I had the limp mode and a special mechanic wants 1500-2000 to change the conductor/solenoids (I did change the conductor plate). Then I ventured in buying a used shift module! 25 easy minutes and the problem gone!!!
@MasterTechLou
@MasterTechLou 5 жыл бұрын
I can help with mercedes diagnosis in the future. Www.cartechconnect.com
@christopherhayles2393
@christopherhayles2393 3 жыл бұрын
I have c230 2004 in limp mode. Change plate mths ago it drives ok and today same problem
@paliuniskis1
@paliuniskis1 2 жыл бұрын
Selenoids?
@thelongranger55
@thelongranger55 6 жыл бұрын
I replaced my conductor plate and same issue it’s stick in 3 rd gear and engine check light , I have not checked codes cause I don’t know how , should I try solenoids
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 6 жыл бұрын
Hunter Mclaughlin always check codes first, it’s easy, there are a lot of videos on the subject. Even a cheap reader from a parts store will be better than nothing.
@YungCaliber15
@YungCaliber15 6 жыл бұрын
You need a scan tool to access the transmission computer and reset it afterwards you should be good after that
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
If a true limp mode was trigger by the TCM, a reset and clearing of all TCM DTC codes is needed. The other solution to the limp mode is, after the fix, is to change the TCM. This will only work on NAG 1 5 speed. NAG 2 7 speed is a completely different headache.
@alannobakht8503
@alannobakht8503 3 ай бұрын
You said that you turn the key and "Pressed the Button Winter or Sport on the side" and found out Limp mode works or Not? Where is that button? can you tell the name? Is it one of the Dash to the right side if the Key Buttons like ESP??
@savalixo
@savalixo 3 ай бұрын
its by the gear shifter called "W S"
@heric4836
@heric4836 Жыл бұрын
Thaks a lot!! Indeed, no computer needed to reset!
@victorgojocco1716
@victorgojocco1716 5 ай бұрын
In my case I did the required job changing the conductor plate brand new and all the solendoids brand new but yet the car is still in limp mode!!! Any suggestions? 😧
@ilyfetti2160
@ilyfetti2160 5 ай бұрын
u need to buy a obd2 scanner and reset the tcm look up more videos youll see
@ilyfetti2160
@ilyfetti2160 5 ай бұрын
my cars in limp mode hopefully after i reset it and change plate its fixed
@taoh3473
@taoh3473 6 жыл бұрын
Nice informations Where do you change the solenoid ? I mean its location
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 6 жыл бұрын
Ta Oh solenoids are mounted on the valve body along with the conductor plate.
@taoh3473
@taoh3473 6 жыл бұрын
Luke C ok Thanks I only change the plug on the transmission, does the conductor plate, easy to remove ?
@thelongranger55
@thelongranger55 6 жыл бұрын
Ta Oh you have to remove transmission pan and then the valve body
@anthonycooper598
@anthonycooper598 6 ай бұрын
Thanks I've got a valve body and adapter plug, and filter. Drained the transmission, replaced everything. The code Po700 was gone, But now I have codes of Po743/Po763/Po753. Torque converter clutch and Shift solenoid C and shift solenoid A. I'm only getting reverse at this point. No Drive, 1,2,3, . I've check the transmission fluid and still only reverse. The car has 140 k miles and to my knowledge it the first transmission change. It was very dirt, with particles in the filter. It's the third flush and I'm at wits end. 1/1/24
@lilred4224
@lilred4224 4 ай бұрын
Thank you that plug is my problem its leaking and ots been acting wacky lights flickering on the dash and wont start so im gonna take the plug out replace with a new one and hopefully thatll fix the problem 🙂🤞
@-smp-scientificmethodpersp838
@-smp-scientificmethodpersp838 4 жыл бұрын
I replaced the conductor plate as well. Guess I'll have to replace those solenoids 😑
@TheDude21519
@TheDude21519 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke, I spilled a can of soda into the middle console of my 2000 CLK430 I started wiping fast but almost immediately my car went into limp mode and I MAY have smelled a small buurning. Pulled over put car in Park and it was stuck...left it overnight, came back start the car and did a shift OVERRIDE to get it home but the tranny doesnt shit gears...there are no codes or illuminations on the dash tho, any ideas?
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 5 жыл бұрын
DaRealist One the can of soda might have fried your shift module, it’s a different issue. Google Mercedes shift module.
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
How do you know that you don't have any codes? What diagnostic tool did you use to determine that?
@TheDude21519
@TheDude21519 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Shift module was the issue....I replaced it myself
@DaiLenMatHo
@DaiLenMatHo 5 жыл бұрын
Same thing, I spilled coffee and it went into limp mode. I replaced the conductor plate - no help. Lived with it for 2 years then I changed the shift module. It works perfectly then!!!
@paliuniskis1
@paliuniskis1 2 жыл бұрын
You need shifter
@jt8280
@jt8280 3 жыл бұрын
Great Job ! Would you still recommend buying one ? I like the supercharged motor also both are great !
@ericthompson4644
@ericthompson4644 3 жыл бұрын
You can buy my 2095 c230k!!
@jt8280
@jt8280 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericthompson4644 Scotty Kilmer was right ! Toyota is the best ! No disrespect.
@amz8785
@amz8785 6 жыл бұрын
When you opened the conductor plate and replaced it. You had to remove the solenoids, did you use the multimeter to check the voltage of each solenoids. That's the way to check the solenoids before you put back the conductor plate.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 6 жыл бұрын
AmZ yes, checked the voltage and resistance and they were within spec. I also reinstalled the old solenoids with a new conductor plate and problem persisted. It’s not until I changed the solenoids with the junkyard ones that the problem went away.
@Jkstolz
@Jkstolz 5 жыл бұрын
Duh...
@aquabono
@aquabono 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukec4745 super fix. After putting in the new plate is all fine? Also which brand 134 oil did you use? Did you drain the torque converter oil too? Total drain should be 7.25 liters.
@jasonmateus924
@jasonmateus924 5 жыл бұрын
2001 e430 fell into limp node and hard shift. Changed plug, conductor plate and replaced TCU with matchng numbers. The car will shift fine until I get back to a complete stop. Then gets back to limp mode until I restart it. Eventually the p0700 code pops up again. Everytime I erase the code this whole process restarts.
@swishmar0308
@swishmar0308 Жыл бұрын
Any updates on this ? How’d you fix it ?
@jasonmateus924
@jasonmateus924 Жыл бұрын
@@swishmar0308 sold the car to my neighbour.
@luisfernandez6049
@luisfernandez6049 4 жыл бұрын
do you still have the conductor plate you purchase ,the new one if so.ill like to buying from you
@ademc8872
@ademc8872 6 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever told you you look a little like Anthony Hopkins?
@rightwingtrashrus274
@rightwingtrashrus274 4 жыл бұрын
Adem C I’m having my friend for dinner
@beaube1640
@beaube1640 4 жыл бұрын
He does has similar accent as well
@TheRealNativeSun
@TheRealNativeSun 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao! First thing I thought. 😂.
@amplify6965
@amplify6965 Жыл бұрын
Yes my dear
@bmwcarrmann429
@bmwcarrmann429 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke I had to do the same thing and it was good to know.it works.thanks again.peace
@jimmyj4395
@jimmyj4395 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 CL500 Mercedes-Benz in limp mode can you help me fix it I have changed the vgs conductor plate and still in limp mode should I changed the valve body or I need some insight from someone please
@christopherhayles2393
@christopherhayles2393 3 жыл бұрын
Good job
@jonrandall5490
@jonrandall5490 6 жыл бұрын
Luke C, I found this video to be extremely helpful. I just bought yesterday a USA 1998 C280. It is stuck in first gear. Car shows 230,000 miles on the odometer. When you go from Park into Reverse, or Park into Drive there is a very strong lurch. The car jolts into gear. It will not shift out of first in Drive or if I shift the automatic trans manually. The seller (not very car intelligent) gave me a new trans. dipstick, and the fluid measures a little bit low, but seems like clean fluid. I will guess I need a new Conductor Plate and Solenoids, but I don't know. Online there are many refurbished solenoids available. I wonder if they are reliable? Any suggestions on where I should start, as I feel badly that it took you a month to solve yours. Thanks for your great video, which is very helpful.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 6 жыл бұрын
Jon Randall scan it first. Also check the TCM module under the passenger footrest for transmission fluid contamination. If there is fluid in the connectors you can try cleaning the harness and installing a new connector on the transmission, cheap fix. Google 722.6 transmission connector.
@jonrandall5490
@jonrandall5490 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke. Thanks for your reply. The scan reveals code P0715 ( Input / Turbine Speed Sensor A circuit ). This input speed sensor is built into the Trans. Conductor Plate which I have just replaced with the OE German Conductor Plate. I, of course, replaced the Connector too, and noted that the wiring had trans. fluid on the harness. This lead me into the passenger foot kick panel, and I removed the Trans. Control module, which had small fluid on the wiring going into the connections, and into the TCM itself. I opened the TCM carefully, and other than a little bit of fluid inside near the connectors, it appeared in good shape. My car is stuck in first or second gear, and won't shift into other gears. I can reach 30 or 35 but the tach is at 4500 approx. I am not sure if this is "Limp Mode" or not. I am guessing that I need to have my TCM rebuilt or replaced, or Conductor Plate solenoids are actually bad. However, one parts place thinks maybe the Input Speed Sensor Code P0715 is in German terms ( = shift micro switch ), which in English is Neutral Safety Switch.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 6 жыл бұрын
Jon Randall did you resolve this issue?
@DaiLenMatHo
@DaiLenMatHo 5 жыл бұрын
@Steve Johnson I did have the same scan code, but I just replaced the shift module and it works right away. Good lucks. Shift module normally do not last long since ppl spilled liquid and the heat...etc.
@DaiLenMatHo
@DaiLenMatHo 5 жыл бұрын
Recently my transmission did not go OVERDRIVE (waste of momentum/gas) then the vacuum hose to brake booster broken, I replaced it and also replace a big vacuum hose which is hardened by heat and was loose. Now transmission runs good!!!
@ffflyer2266
@ffflyer2266 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@childinside4577
@childinside4577 2 жыл бұрын
4:40 you mean tcm or tcu?
@boutsabasyhabanthom3394
@boutsabasyhabanthom3394 3 жыл бұрын
Change eps/abs box after that is working good luck.
@anntmobin
@anntmobin 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke I was wondering how can I fix my EIS on mercedes benz c240 2002, the car key won’t turn , does that mean limp mode? How can I fix the car if it won’t even turn on
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 4 жыл бұрын
Ant Be mobbin I can’t comment unless we have somewhere to start with...some background is needed, there can be a few reasons for this. Get it scanned first, with a descent scanner so you can get all the codes not just generic ones. Make sure your battery is fully charged.
@jessiet9458
@jessiet9458 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke, when you have that limp mode problem, did the fuse #55 burn out? I got the same year and model you have, with no crank no start problem.
@newwavepressure6478
@newwavepressure6478 5 жыл бұрын
How much that computer run u
@modernblinds7801
@modernblinds7801 5 жыл бұрын
JT 1200 eBay $65usd
@450ktm520
@450ktm520 5 ай бұрын
To catch all the oil. Get a plastic tray that's over sized to the pan. Catches all the oil when you drop the pan and place the pan in the plastic tray.
@reybolor6045
@reybolor6045 6 жыл бұрын
I encountered that before on my 2000 CL500 all I did was replaced the conductor plate and fixed the limp mode issue. You probably got a bad conductor plate.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 6 жыл бұрын
Rey Bolor I tried 2 conductor plates.
@odogg4447
@odogg4447 5 жыл бұрын
hey does the car make a whinining nosise when you drive it if the conductor plate is bad. My e320 whines then goes out of gear.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 5 жыл бұрын
O Dogg I had no whining noise. That could mean something mechanical.
@odogg4447
@odogg4447 5 жыл бұрын
I changed fluid, filter, gasket and harness connector..problem solved
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
@@odogg4447 Whining mean low fluid level. You didn't have enough transmission fluid in it.
@vedob5163
@vedob5163 2 жыл бұрын
So you didn't have to reprogram the conductor plate?
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 2 жыл бұрын
No. Not on the 722.6
@vedob5163
@vedob5163 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukec4745 so 722.9 needs programming
@user-jy5ff3zo3u
@user-jy5ff3zo3u 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@racionator2668
@racionator2668 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine doing all of this on a E220CDI and its still in 2nd gear with turbine speed sensor fault code but nothing on the dash, then you realise that 2 injectors are not original and are from a later production car. You then i realised that the catalictic converter is original too adn when diesel injecors fail they spit out loads of fuel and it creates smoke and then it clogs up the cat. I cut that sucker off and beleave it or not car drives normaly.
@darktiger6518
@darktiger6518 4 жыл бұрын
Mine is still broken
@bobbymunyavi5357
@bobbymunyavi5357 Жыл бұрын
Been trying to get my W210 gearbox fixed, no luck. If technicians that side are failing, then I have no chance here in Africa.
@Superf103
@Superf103 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem on renault laguna.
@pp4173
@pp4173 3 жыл бұрын
I have this same problem now
@laenaszone
@laenaszone 5 жыл бұрын
So mine wont come out of first gear. Is that "limp mode" ?
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
Is the check engine on? And how do you know that is stuck in 1st gear? What tool or scanner did you use to come to that conclusion?
@laenaszone
@laenaszone 5 жыл бұрын
Dimitriy Perchik I have a GL450 and I’ve got the 722.9 transmission. I know it’s in first because of the speed and rpms that it will top out at. I’m pretty sure it’s my conductor plate that’s bad. More specifically the speed sensor. Could be a solenoid issue as well. From all of the info I’ve been reading I can’t just buy one or go to s junk yard for one I can only get mine refurbished. Unless I want to spend the THOUSANDS at the “stealership”.
@laenaszone
@laenaszone 5 жыл бұрын
Dimitriy Perchik and yes check engine is on. And the error code it’s giving me is pointing the speed sensor. Thanks
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
@@laenaszone What is the top speed you can do with limp mode on? If you have tried to drive it like that... If you had a scanner simular to Icarsoft MB 2 or Icarsoft MB V2, you could go in the TCM and clear the code for the limp mode and drive it until the limp will comes back. My understanding with these transmissions is, base on my experience with them, if you are able to clear the codes and drive for a little while, it means that the problem is more likely electric, but if you try to clear the codes and they don't clear or do anything, and you are not able to drive after clearing/resetting, it means that the problem is more likely mechanical. For example, a solenoid can get the right voltage and have the right resistance, but if it doesn't open and close (mechanical process) when needed, your transmission will not operate properly. You are right about NAG 2 7 speed transmission. The TCM is part of the conductors plate and it does require SCN (Security Code Number) coding with the immobilizer, just like the ignition switch, key, steering lock and instrument cluster. The cheapest option for you is to fix/refurbish the original that you have. You can buy a used one, IF you can find someone to make the conductors plate virgin and after personalize (SCN Coding) it to your vehicle. The Chinese copy of AVDI, the FVDI system is able to make the plate virgin, but to personalize it to your vehicle, it will require a DAS Xentry diagnostic system or Vediamo, or Autell system that can do SCN coding, or AVDI.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 5 жыл бұрын
laenaszone are you sure it’s first gear?
@joshgray2024
@joshgray2024 5 жыл бұрын
Dont buy tcm. Fix urself. So simple!! I have vidson it esp bas fix. Ecm fix rear and front sam unit fix. Easy. But solenoids. Remove test with 12v, and also change 13 pin plug
@Robert-bg1og
@Robert-bg1og 6 жыл бұрын
So your problem was the celluloid ?
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Jace yes.
@Robert-bg1og
@Robert-bg1og 6 жыл бұрын
Luke C yeah my dad's car does not get out of I guess first or second gear and you cannot switch to 3rd or 2nd on the shifter
@darktiger6518
@darktiger6518 4 жыл бұрын
@@Robert-bg1og Conductor plate
@Robert-bg1og
@Robert-bg1og 4 жыл бұрын
@@darktiger6518 eventually I found out it was the shifter I change the gear shift and everything was perfect
@Robert-bg1og
@Robert-bg1og 4 жыл бұрын
@@darktiger6518 but I first change the conductor plate and it did nothing.
@ericolsen67vw
@ericolsen67vw Жыл бұрын
Never seen those wheels before.
@xdrfox
@xdrfox 5 жыл бұрын
they need to put more unnessary chit on that trans
@matthewchim5162
@matthewchim5162 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me what is tcm
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
Transmission Control Module - TCM
@rleggnmu
@rleggnmu 3 жыл бұрын
Get a rebuilt valve body. The springs can break and the valves can stick. Then it won't shift
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you need a rebuilt valve body? It’s expensive. If you watch the video I think I mention I bought the rebuilt/shift kit for it, quite simple to change those springs. None of mine were broken but since I bought the kit I replaced them anyway. Wasn’t the problem.
@robertlegg7036
@robertlegg7036 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukec4745 Sounds like we had different issues. I had a very difficult time with a 1997 280c that was stuck in 1st gear. Your video was very encouraging. In the end, I went with a rebuilt valve body by Sonnax. I believe it had all the solenoids on the part for around $450-500 with a 1year warrentee. A bit expensive, but it did the job.
@jasonhorst9154
@jasonhorst9154 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Mercedes source covered this solenoid problem in the trans
@treyslizz1733
@treyslizz1733 Жыл бұрын
The code that comes up is p0763
@DarkTownMusicGroupusa
@DarkTownMusicGroupusa Жыл бұрын
60k miles and its stuck in limp mode?!!
@edwardduffin3477
@edwardduffin3477 4 жыл бұрын
I did it in the road and on a hillside not a good thing to do good video Ed uk
@FutureVariousFG
@FutureVariousFG 5 жыл бұрын
So u need a new trans?
@Jkstolz
@Jkstolz 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. New solenoids
@DaiLenMatHo
@DaiLenMatHo 5 жыл бұрын
transmission job costs the same as the used car...lol...
@Johnathan_Waters
@Johnathan_Waters 5 жыл бұрын
What is said in this video is NOT CORRECT!! I've had this issue several times, and the problem here is that his scan tool (I have the SAME one) is not good enough to reset the codes & hard limp condition. You need a "better" tool, like a Snap-On modis, or a STAR C3 (and up) multiplexer system, etc. The Launch Creader is OK for some things, but this is not one of them. As for the reason why his limp mode resolved on it's own, well, I dont know...I think he simply just got lucky. Remember we are dealing with Y2K Era electronics, and they weren't all that sophisticated compared to those found on vehicles today. They sometimes (especially being 20+ years old now) get squirrelly and do weird things. Regards.
@lukec4745
@lukec4745 5 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Waters well if you can’t offer the solution then what is the sense of commenting. The car went to Mercedes after I put in the new conductor plate because I was told I need a “special” computer to reset the tcm. That is nonsense, the tcm will reset itself when the issue is resolved. The only transmissions that need the tcm flash are the newer 722.9.
@Johnathan_Waters
@Johnathan_Waters 5 жыл бұрын
@@lukec4745 Well, this is what I do for a living, and I believe I did offer the solution. Not sure what you're talking about.
@jeremyremington8897
@jeremyremington8897 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukec4745 First off thank you! ..Like to say Your thinking and way you explain things I can relate too and your camera shots were more than helpful..I have a 06 c230 and I believe I need to change my plug ..also I dont have a dipstick tube with a lock everyone keeps mentioning...stuck hours away with lil ones :(
@KWW0321
@KWW0321 6 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain, I owned my last Mercedes a while back and will never ever purchase one ever ever again.
@Jkstolz
@Jkstolz 5 жыл бұрын
Your loss. These cars are gems.
@Jkstolz
@Jkstolz 5 жыл бұрын
He isn't having pain.. lol
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
Buy Toyota than... Less pain.
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jkstolz German engineering is overrated.
@DaiLenMatHo
@DaiLenMatHo 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dima-jq3mj I agree. But if you buy used/cheap ones and have ability to fix then they are OK!!!
@CleveVond
@CleveVond Жыл бұрын
Hate that they miss lead us
@nicoyanicoya7890
@nicoyanicoya7890 3 ай бұрын
I have 2003 ML320 Sport 143K Miles on it, but my friend I tiered ESP key also it comes-up but still in Limp Mode, also the Conductor Plate issue for Mercedes on OBDII code is P0715. My car had the same problem leaking fluid tru the Transmission connector to TCM module-- I cant believe such a stupid so called German design liquid going upward against Newton's law of universal Gravitation.. LOL the insulation material sucks the OIL and releases it in the TCM .. what the F.. really! Anyhow the code was P0715 which means "Speed Sensor Magnets" on Conductor plate failed, I changed the plate, basically went thru hell in my small garage with limited space and tools and finally did it.. But got real pissed that still was in Limp Mode,,. To begin with I first changed Connector to New One to the Transmission where the Tr-OIL Leak starts, then I cleaned the TCM, tried it still in Limp Mode. Changed TCM with the one bought from Junk-yard but it gave me an error and Limp Mode again plus OBDII said the "Gear Ratio Error" which programmed in junkyard TCM so it had different gear ratio. BTW: I electrically measured and checked the Transmission Oil and it IS NOT a Conductive Liquid OIL which means it does not damage the TCM electronically, to make sure I cleaned and tried my original TCM and worked fine but still in Limp Mode. I bought the Brand New Original "Mercedes ML320 Conductor Plate" for $220 from NAPA store. Anyone can help out there?
@buddyrojek9417
@buddyrojek9417 Жыл бұрын
i solved my limp mode with a new battery and a reset.
@deequan-nu5fy
@deequan-nu5fy 11 ай бұрын
Hey buddy what do you mean by reset the battery or computer?
@buddyrojek9417
@buddyrojek9417 11 ай бұрын
@@deequan-nu5fy i heard an old battery can cause it. changed the battery then put a scanner over it and reset the codes using the scanner tool. changed all oil and filters, have not had a problems since
@moli5092
@moli5092 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information, when I listen to bunch of those information, I will never buy Mercedes, even German car again. If you have a lot of money, you better poured them into the pacific. why no body talk about it because the car owner like show of and the mechanic can make more money. do you think Japanese car have those crazy problem? No! I have a Mercedes too, anytime I bring it to service, no one know how to repair except the very common problem, and no one will tell you the true, and paid $1000, because the Mechanical worker doesn't know Electronics, the Electronics worker doesn't know Software the Software worker doesn't know Mechanical and Electronics. Right now, all the car repair tech are cheater.
@rubezahlmountainworks7974
@rubezahlmountainworks7974 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah quite awkward with that sketchy ramp.
@richieblevins3550
@richieblevins3550 3 жыл бұрын
So I guess I’m not going too get one
@benaiahbenaiah107
@benaiahbenaiah107 5 жыл бұрын
...what about you become a consultant for a fee....
@victorgojocco1716
@victorgojocco1716 5 ай бұрын
actually if you realize, your video did not really give an accurate solution to the limp mode problem. You just bought another transmission and your limp mode was gone! So are you saying the problem is the whole transmission???
@CookieMurderer123
@CookieMurderer123 5 жыл бұрын
laying body language :) touching nose non stop :)
@martinss13
@martinss13 4 жыл бұрын
Laying indeed 👌👌
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
Your troubles with this fix was that you started the fix the wrong way. The very first thing you should have done is to drive the car while monitoring what the transmission is doing with a diagnostic scanner that has "Live Data" capability. Reading the codes with an obd 2 scanner will not do you any good. How did you know that the transmission was in limp mode? You are wrong in saying that limp mode doesn't need to be reset or cleared after the fix is done. Once the limp mode on, either on the transmission or engine, it has to cleared and reset. You didn't have a true transmission limp mode, you had a malfunctioning solenoid. Next time if you have an issue like that, use the scanner that you got, Creader 7, that has Live Data capability and diagnose the problem while driving.
@modernblinds7801
@modernblinds7801 5 жыл бұрын
Dimitriy Perchik you are incorrect. A malfunctioning solenoid or anything else will put the transmission into hard limp. On the 722.6 once the problem is resolved there is no need to reset anything. Trust me. As for doing a live scan, I did, while driving, it showed me solenoid voltages as well as told me that my shifter module or speed sensor is not at fault because it was reading correctly.
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
@@modernblinds7801 There is no such thing as a hard limp mode. The "Limp - Home Mode" is a preset operating condition of the ECM or TCM. Once is trigger, it must be reset. In simple words or to use a computer terminology, LHM mode is like a safe mode on a computer, limited operation. I stand by what I said, knowing by experience, a true TCM LHM mode must be reset in order to be able to operate the vehicle.
@modernblinds7801
@modernblinds7801 5 жыл бұрын
Dimitriy Perchik I disagree, this is not the first European vehicle I worked on and certainly not the first Mercedes. The scanner read limp condition, vehicle was locked into 2nd gear, once the problem with the solenoid was resolved nothing had to be cleared, vehicle started operating normally.
@Dima-jq3mj
@Dima-jq3mj 5 жыл бұрын
@@modernblinds7801 First of all, the transmission possible was stuck in 2nd gear due to a bad solenoid that was not letting the transmission shift any higher and not due to a LHM. Which solenoid was changed? mega.nz/#!BrIFQS4Y!fdmqR58bDGxgktuHQlKwDS2nPTQ9yuSWRTCN18x9Ars Can you tell me from the link above which solenoid was changed? I myself had a situation where I changed the transmission fluid on a 2008 Mercedes Sprinter 3.0 turbo diesel and I used an aftermarket filter that after about 20,000 miles dropped out of the valve body and it was not letting the transmission shift passed 2nd gear. The transmission was not in limp mode. I simply changed the filter with new fluid and didn't have to reset anything, but prior to that I had to change the conductor's plate due to bad speed sensors (input and output) and a reset was needed. You don't have to agree with me. If you ever have a problem with bad transmission speed sensors, which will put you in a true LHM, and you will have to replace the conductor's plate, then you will understand what true LHM is. You will not be able to fix the issue by simply replacing the conductor's plate. You will have to have a scanner that is capable of going into the TCM and reset it. Why don't you try to reset a limp mode on a diesel engine due to running it out of DEF, for example, by simply filling the vehicle with DEF since it was out of it? I would love to see you try... And I hope you know and understand that there are two different types of limp modes, engine and transmission. Like I said, try to reset the 5mph limitation (LHM) on a diesel engine, due to running the vehicle out of DEF, by simply filling it with DEF. I would really love to see you try.... 😀
@modernblinds7801
@modernblinds7801 5 жыл бұрын
Dimitriy Perchik you are talking about two different modules. I can’t comment on running out of def because my diesel Jeep doesn’t use it. The transmission was in limp mode, 2nd gear start and hard gear engagement. I’ve changed many 722.6 conductor plates on jeeps and Mercedes vehicles without the need to reset anything and yes my scanner can reset the individual modules if needed. This video is meant to help people and give them another area to consider when the conductor plate does not resolve the issue, not to confuse them even more. The car was in limp mode, conductor plate was changed, codes were reset and the car never came out of limp. At that point it was taken to a Mercedes dealership for diagnosis. Diagnosis came back with a bad conductor plate. When told it was changed the Mercedes technician said it will then likely require the valve body, which I did not agree with. I then took it back and started troubleshooting it myself. Although all the solenoids tested ok on both resistance and when 12v was applied, one was faulty. Good luck!
@farhadfarhadian1111
@farhadfarhadian1111 Жыл бұрын
Could have taken it to a professional mechanic rather than wasting your time and money
@swishmar0308
@swishmar0308 Жыл бұрын
Lol that’s no better
@afrisanaproductions6504
@afrisanaproductions6504 Жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Luke, this is Martin from Tanzania, can I have your whatsap number or email address, am experiencing the same problem in my mercedes Benz but mine does not give out any error codes in my OBD scanners..could it be the wires in transmission are bad?! Any help please.. I own Mercedes Benz w202, 1999
@rudolfgyorkei9558
@rudolfgyorkei9558 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
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