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Mercedes GL 2007 (X164) Auto Boot / Tailgate Pump Location/Fluid

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ricointheuk

ricointheuk

Күн бұрын

*I top up the fluid in the video. Please note that this is not a "how to video" As I have made certain assumptions about the operation of the system and the procedure. Always follow your manufactures instructions.*
The video shows the location of the automatic boot / Tailgate pump on a Mercedes GL 420CDI 2007 (X164). My tailgate would not open work when parked on a slope. I checked the pumps hydraulic fluid and it was low.
The fluid I used is Aeroshell 41 and was approximately £15 from Amazon UK. I found a Mercedes document that appeared to say Aeroshell 41 was compatible for MB 342.0 hydraulic fluid, which I believe is the correct fluid for my vehicle.. I contacted my local Mercedes dealership for the genuine fluid and was advised Mercedes only supply 20 litre cans now.
The document I found gave these instructions for checking the fluid levels:
"Up to model year 2008: Perform test in installation position. Observe marking (cross) at bottom edge of reservoir.
As of model year 2009: Perform test in the upright position. Observe the marking (circle) at the top edge of reservoir."
Hope that helps :)

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@zhuoliu5202
@zhuoliu5202 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video. I was able to fix this issue in 10 mins with clear instructions. Appreciated.
@patriciareynolds2729
@patriciareynolds2729 2 ай бұрын
on the earlier oil comments . power steering fluid or transmission oil are both hydraulic oils and would prob. work. the red fluid would be easy to see in resevoir.
@tomb375
@tomb375 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video! This is a big secret at Mercedes. Thank you for sharing the location.
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome :)
@FaizAlshehri
@FaizAlshehri 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! My ML63 pump was whining and grinding from cavitation. I found the pump reservoir dry with no single drop. So I added Mercedes hydraulic steering fluid and its smooth and quiet.
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Faiz, I'm glad the video helped. :)
@mglsite
@mglsite 2 жыл бұрын
Good deal, mine has stopped going all the way up so I will check this tomorrow.
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mglsite, hope it worked out for you :)
@djbh2009
@djbh2009 5 жыл бұрын
Want to add this video saved me from disabling the system and converting to manual. The tailgate would open fully with no problem but when closing it would bounce (kind of drop), stop, return to full open, and beep. I added fluid as the reservoir was nearly empty. Now, I may have a leak and time will tell, but in the meantime this is a fix. On my 2011 W164, there isn't a line, just a circle and when filled to the circle with the unit upright (vertical, reservoir on top), the system operates properly. As others have stated, Aircraft Spruce carries Aeroshell 41, a fluid that passes mercedes 342.0 fluid specs for this hydraulic system. If this does not fix the issue (long term) I intend to disable the auto tailgate and convert it to manual, as per a handy fcp euro blog.
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 5 жыл бұрын
Pleased to hear the video helped. Hopefully it is a long term fix for you. Mine still work fine and it is nearly a year since I made the video.
@adamxia5929
@adamxia5929 4 жыл бұрын
djbh2009 I had similar problem with my 2012 ML350. When opening the tailgate, it will bounce a couple of times before fully open. But no problem to close it. Should I change the fluid as you did?
@js2482
@js2482 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! Gonna try this! Thanks for sharing!
@VitiatedsHOWTO
@VitiatedsHOWTO 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I found this video on something totally unrelated to what I’m looking for but I’ve been wondering what the Hells been wrong with my hatch for a year now I want to head and added your video to my playlist on On my Benz
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Vitiated, hope it fixed your hatch. :)
@MarcoGarcia-lk4bw
@MarcoGarcia-lk4bw 6 жыл бұрын
can you do a more indepth review on whats inside the rear corepanels in both side and besides under the fluid pump
@willmill409
@willmill409 2 ай бұрын
Wheres the fluid going? Is there a common leak point?
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 2 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm not sure where the fluid is going. Everything seems dry. I'm not aware of any common leak point. The boot/tail lift is still working today and six years on from my video. So whatever is happening to the fluid is very slow in my case. :)
@wayaboveme
@wayaboveme 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid. I was wondering where this pump was! One question (and hopefully you're still reviewing comments on this vid), was there a need to prime the pump or bleed it to get out any air bubbles? I saw that mentioned on a forum but didn't see you do this and wouldn't know how to do this w/o some instructions. Thanks!
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 4 жыл бұрын
Hi William :) I did not need to bleed the pump and did not find any instructions indicating I should for my car model(Does not mean that there are some instruction somewhere and I should have bleed the pump). I presume my pump dragged air in as I had so little fluid remaining that the boot/tailgate would not open when parked on a slope. After adding the oil it worked fine and is still working great to this day.
@francisrampen9099
@francisrampen9099 5 жыл бұрын
1. Thanks for researching the replacement fluid - useful info. Aircraft spruce seems to carry aeroshell 41. I am sure there are other suitable hydraulic oils - the mercedes oil has a peculiar stink to it and is very low viscosity. 2. Looking at the way the pump works I don't think there really is a maximum level - it is basically a piston pump driven by an eccentric cam. Sure fill it to the level but I don't think going over would affect anything. The pump is fed through a shaft in the middle of the housing so that is the critical level 3. The common failure is the connectors corrode - clean with contact cleaner and put some white lithium grease on them. Grease everything and the motor pump should last for a long time. Shame on mercedes for such crap execution - they stuck it in a foam condom at the bottom of the trunk, what did they expect? 4. Regarding cleaning the pump of 'dried residue'. its a hydraulic pump! There will be no 'dried residue'. Sure take it apart if you are curious - be careful when you remove the bronze pump body, it is full of tiny hardened pins that will disappear forever when they fall on the floor. Disassemble over a suitably deep dish. There is a solenoid valve and some very small o-rings and that is about it. 4. In answer to Marco, the passenger rear contains the fusebox and SAM - the SAM is prone to death because water leaks through the rear lens and shorts the circuit board. typical modern mercedes - no conformal coating even though there is no justification - it is all low power. They could have put it in a sealed box but no and these things have been dying in this manner for 10+ years. In the u.s. the box is 400 delivered new, in Canada they give you a 'refurbed' one for 950$ and the core is 350$. And they will insist on programming it whether it needs it or not (mine did not). Jerks
@glasser2819
@glasser2819 5 жыл бұрын
we all seem to have a similar experience with Benz ownership... low quality serviced by jerks. No other car fall apart as well as German cars. Thank god for Japanese cars 😎
@clarivelbourque5144
@clarivelbourque5144 2 жыл бұрын
Is the hydraulic pump at the same location for a 2013 Mercedes gl450?? I’m having a hard time finding it, and I’ve gone through the steps in the video already.
@Omgentt
@Omgentt 4 жыл бұрын
my power steering is hard and i just bought a replacement and still hard to drive .... i am confused
@leodavis7524
@leodavis7524 3 жыл бұрын
Great 👍
@ZaphodsPlanet
@ZaphodsPlanet 5 жыл бұрын
Did you every find the leak?, thanks for posting. Just bought ML with problem hatch... it will close but not open.
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 5 жыл бұрын
Hi ZaphodsPlanet, No, I never found a leak. Although I have not really looked as the tailgate/boot has continued to work since I refilled the tank around one year ago. Hope you enjoy your ML.
@guniseran
@guniseran 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, my power lift gate does not operate at all, it beeps though when I press open. Also the red light in the open/close does not light. Any idea what's wrong?
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Car Craze, no sorry I do not. But I would start with checking fuses and seeing if power is getting to the pump etc.
@guniseran
@guniseran 5 жыл бұрын
@@ricointheuk it turned out to be broken wires at the liftgate pump that was rotten due to water infiltration
@Fleeceist
@Fleeceist 5 жыл бұрын
Did you end up replacing the whole actuator?
@guniseran
@guniseran 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fleeceist it turned out to be the wires connecting to liftgate pump were rotten and broken off due to water seepage
@Fleeceist
@Fleeceist 5 жыл бұрын
Okay thanks. Mine opens but it wont close. The latch stays active and wobt go back to normal though MB wants 950 just for 20 dollar latch haha. Might as well replace the actuator and the latch for that price.
@DMountains
@DMountains 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where this pump is located in the same year R class?
@mechatronx4383
@mechatronx4383 6 жыл бұрын
So was the gate not closing or opening before you added hydrulic fluid? What was the cause that led you to check that particular pump, thanks in advanced.
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 6 жыл бұрын
Hi iBow2no1TX :) the issue I was experiencing was that the gate worked normally on flat ground but failed to open on a slope with the vehicle noise facing down hill. The slope only needed to be slight for the gate not to lift. I noticed that the gate never worked whenever I went to the rubbish tip where you back up to the skips on a slight slope. I then tested the vehicle on different slopes to confirm. The gate is still working well after adding the fluid.
@tippy35075
@tippy35075 5 жыл бұрын
@@ricointheuk My ml550 is showing similar symptoms, I'm going to check the fluid level today
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 5 жыл бұрын
@@tippy35075 any luck?
@tippy35075
@tippy35075 5 жыл бұрын
ricointheuk yes so I need to get some mercedes Benz steering fluid next week to top the hydraulic tank up
@PaulDoodes
@PaulDoodes 4 жыл бұрын
@@tippy35075 is power steering fluid similar enough?
@abdullahgarba7804
@abdullahgarba7804 4 жыл бұрын
What is that Bosch thing for, level?
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Abdullah :) Yes, the Bosch laser level was to just check the pump was level for the fluid reading. Probably over the top as I would guess the pump reservoir being exactly level is not that critical but I had the Bosch laser level close, and it took the guess work out of the situation.
@einsten7094
@einsten7094 6 жыл бұрын
What was the problem that led to this?
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jun Mic :) Hopefully I have understood your question correctly. If you are asking what the problem was that reduced the fluid level then I do not know. There does not appear to be any leak visible and boot opened fine unless I was on a slope. My basic understanding is that the hydraulic system is a closed system, so it has gone somewhere. The car is 11 years old so maybe 11 years of normal seal leakage accounts for this??? although nothing shows. But I have not dismantled the car to check the entire system. The boot still works fine. I should look in the boot again to see if the fluid level has moved from the video fill level. Next time I work on the car I will take a look. ;)
@kaisarrasab9141
@kaisarrasab9141 2 жыл бұрын
What fluid has gone in
@ricointheuk
@ricointheuk 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kaisar, I found a Mercedes document that said the fluid had to match MB 342.0 hydraulic fluid. The document gave a compatible fluid which was Aeroshell 41. I bought it from Amazon but it is available from lots of other outlets. Hope it works for you. :)
@runeostrom5154
@runeostrom5154 2 жыл бұрын
I am surprised to see that MB did not make access possible only from under the trunk just to make it more difficult to fill oil. Oil does not evaporate, yet could not see a trace of leaked oil, so where does the leaked oil !
@erikgillisostrom6109
@erikgillisostrom6109 Жыл бұрын
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