Mercedes ke jetronic - A stumbling car - Is it because of the EHA? Listen to what FyM says!!!

  Рет қаралды 5,383

Fix your Mercedes

Fix your Mercedes

3 жыл бұрын

Link to my instagram profile
/ fix_your_mercedes
Link to my fb group
/ fix-your-mercedes-1020...
Your car stumbles and you don't know what to do! The channel fix your Mercedes confutes the statement of a certain channel that if your car starts stumbling you should check your EHA. In this video I want to explain that the KE-Jetronic is a mechanical injection system with electronic upgrade and as such its mechanical part of the system must be in an excellent shape for it to work properly. As the fuel pump and the fuel pressure regulator are 2 key components of the system then they should be working properly. The moment it's achieved a HUGE part of the job on the system is done. As the EHA does just what the ECU orders then the problem for an stumbling engine can not be solved on that part. KE-Jetronic can fully be operational without the ECU and thus without the EHA operating. The problem can be solved but with a pressure gauge hooked up at the fuel distributor in order for you to see if you have the ideal differential pressure(0.4bar). If the fuel pressure regulator failed there is no way that the EHA can solve this problem. If not then you can get this ideal pressure difference by decreasing the secondary pressure but this isn't then the permanent solution. This way you are just going to make the car sluggish. There is a big possibility that soon the same problem is about to happen again. Do it by replacing your fuel pump and the fuel pressure regulator in order to have a healthy running engine. The KE-Jetronic system works the way that the secondary pressure mustn't drop for more than 0.1bar no matter if the car accelerates or if it idles. The stumbling is going to appear just because the fuel pressure regulator doesn't hold the pressure firm but it drops for 1bar or more so there is no way that the EHA can make this compensation in order for the proper pressure difference to be achieved.
How it's done - watch the video for Ivica FyM will give you the actual solution for the stumbling car issue.
Happy Mercedesing
#fixyourmercedes##mercedeskejetronic##stumblingbecauseoftheeha#
What am I talking about?
My topic is the KE-Jetronic injection system which I try to demystify as much as I can.
For all of you to understand the system in brief - Developed in 1973 and being mounted into cars up to 1993 as it went in history. But why these to letters!?(KE) K(from German "kontinuierlich" meaning continuos, without interruption) the MECHANICAL injection system on which the fuel starts flowing from the fuel tank sucked by the FUEL PUMP and delivered to the FUEL DISTRIBUTOR which sends fuel to the INJECTORS while the majority of it flows through the FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR through its return line back to the fuel tank again. The letter E(electronic) has to mark the electronic sensors (the developement starting from early eighties) which had to inform the ECU about the current state of the engine so that the ECU(Electronic Control Unit) then could create current signal in mAmp(miliampers) and send it to four crucial components for the system - the EHA(the electro-hydraulic actuator,a unit consisting of a magnet, an electromagnet and a baffle plate) which had to fine tune the engine in each of its phases, the ICV(the idle control valve), the unit which was predicted for the engines perfect idle, the X11(the diagnostic socket) where the duty cycle(the ideal mixture) was adjusted and the X11/4(the code reader) - the socket which from any codes were read if present using an OBD1 scanner.
An extraordinary injection system which could be fully repaired in your own garage using a multimeter and a pressure gauge only for its fine tuning, together with some common tools.
"Happy Mercedesing"

Пікірлер: 123
@cwmoser
@cwmoser 2 жыл бұрын
I like your concept ... donate and get a kiss. That is cool. The girls are beautiful and you my friend are providing some great technical advice. Keep your channel going. Have you done a video on actually hooking up the Fuel Pressure gauges to observe the 0.4 Bar differential?
@knick187
@knick187 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mercedeske
@mercedeske Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot to you, too!
@doe8939
@doe8939 2 жыл бұрын
Replaced my leaking eha with brand new one no more stumbling!
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
If it's leaky then you loose pressure.
@micmac9853
@micmac9853 2 жыл бұрын
how long should the cold start injector be on? for as long as one is cranking the ignition or for a fixed lenght of time? mine spraya for about a second. is this long enough?
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the outside temperature. But at the normal temperature a second is okay.
@ExAnimoPortugal
@ExAnimoPortugal Жыл бұрын
Greetings. What if the car is stumbling off the line and engine shaking on idle but the EHA valve is leaking through the weep holes?
@mercedeske
@mercedeske Жыл бұрын
Greetings. At first check the pressures with the pressure gauge with the EHA disconnected. Then reconnect the EHA. You must not have a pressure drop as you connect the gauge at the lower chamber!!! In general if the EHA is leaking it will have to be replaced. Something you can check is to remember where your adjustment screw(2mm allen key required)on the EHA was, unscrew it fully and buy the least possible o-ring(1×1.5) gas resistant, STRESS THAT! Replace the o-ring. If that doesn't help then you will have to replace the EHA. You must also get a constant pressure, that's the point.
@knick187
@knick187 Жыл бұрын
Hey in m119 wen turn key to second position and hear fuel pump noise like you have described ..fuel pump is bad ?? Is their ment to be no noise coming from fuel pump wen you turn key to position 2 ??
@mercedeske
@mercedeske Жыл бұрын
Hello. Yes, it is. The fuel pump is bad I'd it can not deliver at least 1l in 40 seconds.
@knick187
@knick187 Жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske thank you for the reply 🙏
@mercedeske
@mercedeske Жыл бұрын
@@knick187 My pleasure. Happy Mercedesing 🍀 😊 😃 😀
@seasonedtoker
@seasonedtoker 3 жыл бұрын
Ivica evo pitanje za tebe. Ima prijatrlj isto tako 2.3 motor u W124. Mjenjali su mu regulator za pritidak goriva, od tada avto je los na standgasu. Mozda neka pomoc?
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
Zdravo. Ispitaj dizne. Ako su dobre, onda Ispitaj jel vuče falš, ako ni to nije Ispitaj step motor(ler motor). Stim da je paljenje u redu, da su gumena creva nova(ne zaboravi kolenasto što spaja step i senzor protokomer), da je vakuum crevo meko(iznad četvrtog cilindra što liči na slovo T). Mercedes zna da bude baksuz. Jedno mu promeniš, otvore se još dve stvari...
@janinazbabic
@janinazbabic 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Ivica! Thank you for the interesting films and advices of yours. I have (my wife has, as a matter of fact) W124 300E '89, no LPG. It stumbles for a while when starting from stand still. It like hesitates. When RPM increase it goes well. When I disconnect the plug on KE-jetronic computer, it... doesn't stumble at all, goes well from the lowest RPM (of course it doesn't accelerate as it should). Maybe you have any suggestions for me? Special regards from Poland! :-) Maciek
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
Check the sensor plate if it slides smoothly, check the potentiometer if it gives the proper voltage, check the injectors. How many kms do you have on the clock?
@janinazbabic
@janinazbabic 3 жыл бұрын
The round plate in the flowmeter is ok, potentiometer connected to it gives proper 0,7 V. The whole thing started when I bought and connected the lambda probe, new, Bosch (earlier the car was running without it). Injectors might be not perfect, however when KE-jetronic is unplugged, the car doesn't stumble. 360000 km. Thank you!
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
My advice to you is to check the injectors. If they have never been replaced, replace them(don't perform any tests), I believe that they started squirting, that's why I asked you for the mileage. They can not be cleaned in ultrasonic bath, they have to be replaced(first checked) each 150k km. I had a similar problem, my car was stumbling from standstill, when it reaches higher rpm, then it's okay but the engine also reaches the required pressure at low rpm, too. It needs on the other hand the required pressure and it can not get it! The same thing when shifting gears in my case, I had to raisethe revs up to almost 4000rpm. Replace the injectors, I believe they are not in good shape.
@janinazbabic
@janinazbabic 3 жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske Ok, anyway replacing injectors couldn't harm, could it? ;-) I'll write if it helped, thank you very much, kind regards!
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
@@janinazbabic It won't do any harm. Hear from you soon.
@zeusbill3459
@zeusbill3459 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, cand you tell me what pressure should i have for M102 engine? If i buy a 6.5 bar fuel pump is ok?
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
It's okay. The primary out of the pump has to be 5.7-5.9bar, the secondary(on the lower chamber 0.4bar less)
@zeusbill3459
@zeusbill3459 2 жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske Thank you
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure...always.
@PatrickAguilar
@PatrickAguilar 3 жыл бұрын
My m103 126 has an intermittent issue where it acts like I suddenly dropped anchor. When it behaves this way, I notice a definite pickup in power as I’m letting off the accelerator pedal. Almost like a surge of power. I’ve replaced pumps, accumulator, injectors, and overload relay. What else should I check?
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
If this happens when the engine is warm it can maybe be the ignition coil, the lambda if you have one, the potentiometer...
@PatrickAguilar
@PatrickAguilar 3 жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske I’m not sure. Would that be the oxygen sensor under the car in the catalytic converter? If so, that hasn’t been changed. The problems used to be only if you didn’t give it time to warm up, but now it seems to happen whenever. It also seems to mess with the transmissions ability to shift.
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickAguilar Yes. Try replacing the O2 sensor at first. It has to be replaced each 30k miles. If the issue persists, contact me.
@micheledirocco4994
@micheledirocco4994 3 жыл бұрын
Ivica! You must be some of a mind reading wizard, as I'm experiencing exactly a stumbling car in the late days 😂 the idle sometimes trembles and, if I press the throttle, the engine will stumble until I reach 2000 rpm, but over 2200 rpm it works perfectly. What do you suggest I should check? I have new fuel pump, new EHA, new fuel pressure regulator, new accumulator, new injectors, new spark plugs and cables, new potentiometer (set to 0.7 V), new crankcase ventilation hoses and the engine was working perfectly before
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
Hehehehehehe. Just tell me when does it happen - when the engine is cold or warm?
@micheledirocco4994
@micheledirocco4994 3 жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske both cold and warm engine, same problem...
@micheledirocco4994
@micheledirocco4994 3 жыл бұрын
@Ugli PurrltatoTM no previous owners, I can guarantee it has never been modified
@micheledirocco4994
@micheledirocco4994 3 жыл бұрын
@Ugli PurrltatoTM I just found I had a wrong fuel pump from the dealer
@19829Kei
@19829Kei 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, I got a question I am not sure if this is a problem. Every morning when I first start the car, there is sound coming near the fuel pump, but I am not sure I just changed a new one, no sound before changing the fuel pump and filter After ride and warm up, the sound disappear. The sound is not loud, like something running Do you have any comments? 🙏🏾 thank you 😊
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. The fuel pump must run for a second and then it must stop. If that's the sound you hear coming from the back, that's normal.
@19829Kei
@19829Kei 3 жыл бұрын
Further question, I am thinking the fuel pump is keep running in the ride Why the pump will have sound for like ten minutes, is that normal?
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
@@19829Kei No it's not normal. What I can tell you is to turn the car off and turn the ignition on. Then get out of the car and go behind to the rear right wheel. If you hear the pump working, it's not good. I would replace the fuel pump relay(it operates the fuel pump).
@19829Kei
@19829Kei 3 жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske I mean I "think" the fuel pump "SHOULD" keeping running in the ride. haha Wish I can express myself right. by the way, I will check the fuel pump according to your advice, thanks~
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
Always check 😉🙂😀
@micmac9853
@micmac9853 2 жыл бұрын
i have an 87 2.6 260se m103 w126. i get 5.5 bar primary pressure. is this correct or should i be getting 6.5? i tried adjusting the FVR but it wont increase
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
You are almost there. 5.7-5.9. That's how much it should be. Did you measure the raw pressure(on the cold start valve)?
@micmac9853
@micmac9853 2 жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske that is exactly where i measure the raw pressure.i just got 5.5 bars. on the lower chamber i get 5 bars and 4.9 when i unplug the eha. it ran for a while after i fixed the idle air hose which caused a leak.but then it stopped again and would not start again. i discovered the inside of the fuel pump relay was jumped (15-87). i removed the jumper and exposed the cold start injector. i does nothing on starting
@micmac9853
@micmac9853 2 жыл бұрын
i also maxed out the fuel regulator adjustment screw full clockwise but the raw pressure remained the same..does this adjustment increase the raw pressure or the regulated pressure?(lower chamber pressure)
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
@@micmac9853 Does the car stumble when you have to get going? Because, this is too little pressure for the m103. Did you check the pump if it's noisy? Concerning the pressures, you should get the system pressure 6.1-6.3bar and the working pressure 5.7-5.9bar
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
@@micmac9853 No. It just makes the pressure constant. The working pressure is being increased/decreased on the eha.
@bighilbili
@bighilbili 3 жыл бұрын
I sent a gift because I know I will be looking for answers as I work on my 91
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@trevorross7405
@trevorross7405 2 жыл бұрын
I need help with my 300 SL 1991 mercedes can’t get to take secondary pressure car would not stay running. Start stop right away close valve go back to working pressure car starts again after a couple of cranks. Is my pumps bad or my fuel pressure regulator? Please help me fix it
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
So, you have to get 6.1-6.3bar primary pressure coming from the pump. If the secondary stays the same check the eha. Take off the protection screw(you must take off the EHA from the distributor for this purpose - you need a set of torx keys, prepare a rag because of the gas leak and watch out for 2 green o-rings not to lose them), take a caliper and measure the depth from the top to the screw. You must get 6.8mm. If your fuel pumps are good this will give the ideal pressure difference of 0.4bar. Try it this way. Hope you solve your problem.🤞👌👍
@trevorross7405
@trevorross7405 2 жыл бұрын
Understand but I can’t get to take the secondary pressure. While the car is running showing the working pressure. I open valve on pressure guage to take control pressure and car dies almost immediately. Leave shut off valve in open position start car starts shut off . Only starts back if I close valve in guage. This is the problem. Can I solved that by adjusting the EHA screw using caliper?
@mercedeske
@mercedeske 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorross7405 Does your car eant to run without the pressure gauge?
@trevorross7405
@trevorross7405 2 жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske understand but I can’t get the car to stay running once I open fuel pressure guage to check control pressure. As soon as I open guage to check control pressure car stumbles and shut down. Leave guage open position on shut off valve start car again car starts but shut off immediately. To get it to start again must close shut off and go back to working pressure. Car would start after a few cranks. How to solve this problem?
@trevorross7405
@trevorross7405 2 жыл бұрын
@@mercedeske car was idling and running before for long periods. Then all of a sudden it started to idle not like before and would shut off by itself after like 20 minutes or less. That is why I decided to check pressure to see if my new pumps were no good or what could be problem
Checking your KE Jetronic Fuel Pressures
8:28
Mercedes Classics with Pierre Hedary
Рет қаралды 62 М.
Получилось у Миланы?😂
00:13
ХАБИБ
Рет қаралды 4,6 МЛН
Inside Out Babies (Inside Out Animation)
00:21
FASH
Рет қаралды 20 МЛН
ПРОВЕРИЛ АРБУЗЫ #shorts
00:34
Паша Осадчий
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН
Red❤️+Green💚=
00:38
ISSEI / いっせい
Рет қаралды 86 МЛН
Mercedes KE-Jetronic - How to achieve steady idle
20:11
Fix your Mercedes
Рет қаралды 22 М.
Mercedes KE-Jetronic - Fuel Distributor - The Basics Part 1
25:08
Fix your Mercedes
Рет қаралды 15 М.
Mercedes Ke-Jetronic Diagnosis part 2(read the description)
25:28
Fix your Mercedes
Рет қаралды 31 М.
Why do EHA electronic hydraulic actuators for classic Mercedes Benz die.     4K
7:41
Mercedes Classics with Pierre Hedary
Рет қаралды 4 М.
Mercedes KE-Jetronic - The EHA (Electro-Hydraulic Actuator)
21:30
Fix your Mercedes
Рет қаралды 19 М.
Mercedes KE-Jetronic and K-Jetronic - Warm Start Problems - Mercedes restoration
9:46
Mercedes Ke-Jetronic - Sensor plate height adjustment
14:08
Fix your Mercedes
Рет қаралды 18 М.
A DETAILED overview of KNOCK and PRE-IGNITION - BOOST SCHOOL #7
16:14
driving 4 answers
Рет қаралды 618 М.
казахи сделали мустанг🤯❗️
0:26
Профессор ПельменАрти💀
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН