Mercedes M278 Engine - Identifying and Fixing Rattles | MGUY Australia

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The Mercedes M278 Twin Turbo Engine is a fantastic power plant, but can be plagued with annoying rattles - in this video I explain the main causes and how to fix them.
Technical Service Bulletins: m-g.uy/m278
Introduction: 0:30
ABC Pump Cap: 1:46
Turbo Wastegate: 3:25
Timing Chain Tensioners: 5:15
Camshaft Adjusters: 6:20
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@philippschneidenbach
@philippschneidenbach Жыл бұрын
Great summary - and a fantastic Cl500 in palladium silver. It's like money in the bank if decently taken care of. The M278 is gorgeous, soft as a feather per default and aggressive like a muscle car if pushed to its limits. One of the last cars where Comfort and Sports mode really give you goose bumps and two cars in one.
@phil4977
@phil4977 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Those rattles would annoy me as well. My CL was a 2005. My biggest headache was the suspension woes. The dampener on the oil reservoir went and a low growl noise started. It took MB three months to work out what the noise was. I left the car with them for three months as it was so annoying. Once fixed the car was a pleasure to drive.
@clevelandaeromotive
@clevelandaeromotive Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I’m doing an overall review of my W218 CLS 550. Earlier M278’s did have that timing chain tensioner rattle. Although mine is a middle series serial number I still hear what I believe to be the occasional film projector type rattle. I believe it’s those valve timing variators you mentioned as reason #4. Nice S-Class Coupe!!
@user-cr2fc2xn1g
@user-cr2fc2xn1g 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Very interesting information
@hohum9001
@hohum9001 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, love the detail😀
@SonnyHoood
@SonnyHoood 6 ай бұрын
How's the bore scoring? Have you put a scope in to check?
@darinautry1334
@darinautry1334 10 ай бұрын
Nice job. Anyone know shop time on chain/tensioner r&r? I would imagine that replacing the cam vvt sprockets would probably be wise at that point?
@armanamirov1070
@armanamirov1070 5 ай бұрын
If you really would like to hear something strange from any engine you probobly will. I just taking those little things as specific for this engine. Just use good oil (LM 5Wx40) and warm up the engine in cold mornings and it will go easy 300-400k
@AndrewJacobson-cq2om
@AndrewJacobson-cq2om 4 ай бұрын
Have you had any time with the M156?
@krsd44
@krsd44 Жыл бұрын
I have a late cl500, I understand what you mean about the tiny rattles, but no one else notices them. I think some of these smaller rattles are apparent to us CL drivers due to the absence of all the noise/vibration/harshness that you experience on other cars. The turbo wastegate bearing rattle, thankfully mine is ok at present, but that would wind me up if it started.
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
Yes true - we are starting from a very high baseline!!
@AZMTB
@AZMTB Жыл бұрын
We have grease spurting out of that top belt-driven accessory on our M278 (GLS 550). Did you say that's an ABC pump? I'm not sure if it's the fluid that it's pumping that is leaking or the bearings in the pulley, but it's going bad and I need to get a new one.
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
Bearing can leak grease - ABC fluid is low viscosity
@surplusstock8778
@surplusstock8778 Ай бұрын
Is the abc more reliable in these later ones?
@RaulSpiru
@RaulSpiru Жыл бұрын
Hello, which of the 4 causes could be more similar to my case? When I drive and accelerate to the minimum 1000/2500 rpm you hear that noise . Thanks a lot👍
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t want to try and diagnose - suggest get a mechanic to ride with you and listen. Good luck!
@yoyo1233d
@yoyo1233d Жыл бұрын
Did you replace the vacuum boost control solenoid when replacing the turbos? If it is on its way to "die", it will not close the wastegate internal flap properly (via the vacuum actuator unit ) and our engine proper turbo boost will not occur. CEL may not appear, till real under boost is detected.
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
Yes that was done
@bendingwarrior1
@bendingwarrior1 Жыл бұрын
I love how when he says twin tubrochargers he says it like he's talking about contraband🤣 i love the biturbo's from mercedes
@Phuong_Nguyen_
@Phuong_Nguyen_ Жыл бұрын
So many issues with the m278. When running good it really is a great engine. Half the price of the AMG engines family but 80% of the performance
@systemsbroken
@systemsbroken Жыл бұрын
I cant say half....I have vehicle with this engine and one with the 5.5AMG...costs were quite similar.
@mikimiki195
@mikimiki195 Жыл бұрын
Would you say this engine is reliable I was looking at 2013 GL550 Thanks
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
I think it is reliable - just listen (and look) for the wastegate rattle on start-up
@kondjanegongo796
@kondjanegongo796 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a comparison of the 500 and the 65 you had..
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
Yes stay tuned!
@kondjanegongo796
@kondjanegongo796 Жыл бұрын
@@MGUYTV have you ever seen a CL 216 with a fridge? Iv only ever seen one but don't know if that was an option or just someone that knicked it from an s class and installed it. Uv inspired me, God willing I swear my next car will be a CL
@traybutts4425
@traybutts4425 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever change the camshaft
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
No need - replaced the timing chain guides only
@TellerMorrow
@TellerMorrow Жыл бұрын
Hey Simon, as a casual viewer of your KZfaq channel, I have some feedback. Take it as you like, but these kinds of videos discussing all the troubles in one car will discourage others from buying it. Furthermore, it gives the brand or in general German cars a bad wrap. It will leave a bad taste in your mouth after a while and once you sell the thing. This is your channel and I’m not telling you how to run it. I personally would prefer scenic driving of the Australian coast and country side. Australia is a country that I’ve been looking at touring at some point in the distant future. Very lovely place. Anyways, I have a 2009 S550 with the AMG sport package. Black on Black. All stock. Highly collectible. Low miles too! DM me if you want to buy it. I’ll ship it from California. You must pay for shipping! 😂 Lol
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
I’ll pass on the S550 😉 - not trying to rubbish the brand but every car has issues and I’m just highlighting those issues - search any car and you will see the same
@Matt_from_Florida
@Matt_from_Florida Жыл бұрын
I appreciate individuals who give *honest* assessments. I hope he NEVER takes your advice, as *withholding the truth is a cowardly & disdainful path to go down in life.* I'll stick with my current Mercedes which have M113 & M273 engines; cars which I'm not apprehensive to share both the good & the bad on.
@JonathanHernandez-mq5zy
@JonathanHernandez-mq5zy Жыл бұрын
I have the m278 on a Mercedes e550 4.7 2014 should i sell or i thought they were bulletproof
@marvinmcconoughey3547
@marvinmcconoughey3547 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 E-550, not the CL550, in Oregon USA. I ordered it in summer 2013 and received it late in the same year. The engine has been reliable and without rattles. You should keep your car. No car is bulletproof, in any sense of the term, but most of the 4.7 liter M287 engines are very reliable. Remember, any replacement you buy might also have a future engine problem.
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t sell - the engines are great. (No warranty with this statement…!)
@marcusduffner9953
@marcusduffner9953 Жыл бұрын
I guess you forgot the high pressure fuel pump, which is a common problem known by Benz producing noise and they can't solve it.
@infinitycl
@infinitycl Жыл бұрын
Wonder why mercedes only did airmatic and AWD for the 2011-14 CL550 for the USA but did ABC and RWD for other countries. I feel like ABC is way better for sporty driving.
@MGUYTV
@MGUYTV Жыл бұрын
Yes I wonder that myself
@paulaven2021
@paulaven2021 6 ай бұрын
Two turbos, timing chain work and a little labor and your better off buying another used MBZ with less mileage.
@mchaudry9811
@mchaudry9811 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if it’s a great engine with so many issues. Seems like planned obsolescence. A true money pit. Not to mention these were only the rattles. The other issues on this engine would make not want this car at all.
@cc8530
@cc8530 6 ай бұрын
A recent report suggested that the cause of rattling for these vehicles were between the ears of the owners. Problem solved, you’re welcome :)
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