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Mercedes S 580 e PHEV: Better than any EQ series Mercedes!

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After experiencing the 791 HP ‪@Mercedes-AMG‬ S 63 e Performance, MotoMan tries another ‪@MercedesBenz‬ S Class PHEV: The 510 HP ‪@mbusa‬ S 580e Plug In Hybrid. While they are both PHEVs, the Mercedes S580e is vastly different from the Mercedes AMG S 63e - everything from set up to its complexity which almost makes the Mercedes S 580e PHEV feel like it is built from an entirely different car . . .
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@benjaminkohl342
@benjaminkohl342 11 ай бұрын
To be clear in terms of the options game: The inteior is not $3,110 extra for the color, that color combo is available as a free option. That extra is for the "exclusive" interior which adds three things: 1) Nicer leather on the parts aside from the seats, so that means upper and lower dashboard and upper and mid door panels replace MB-Tex with Nappa leather 2) Suede headliner 3) The additional wiid trim with the little ambient lighting strip on the back of the front seats. Hope this helps!
@89itis
@89itis 11 ай бұрын
Hey Motoman, I can’t wait for you to test the new Cayenne Turbo. It’s got 750 hp!!! It’s an E-Hybrid and the electric motor is a bit underpowered at around 166hp compared to the X5 50e that’s got 200 hp. I sure hope you also test the BMW…🙂
@BusMaster99
@BusMaster99 11 ай бұрын
Very nice! Plug-in hybrids are the best of both worlds. One thing I will say though, this one needs a V8!
@schen8168
@schen8168 11 ай бұрын
Thank you sir, this video is finally here!
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 11 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@javim2589
@javim2589 11 ай бұрын
The S class is so far superior than the eqs. All the EQ line is a sort of "nice try" from Mercedes but i just can´t take it seriously in comparison with the current ICE alternatives in the same brand. This S class looks just epic from almost any angle and the EQS is hard to actually find a good angle that looks good. Maybe is decades of design tradition but sedans like the S class are just perfectly proportioned.
@Marius26-73
@Marius26-73 11 ай бұрын
Why can't this channel draw more subscribers? There are other car review channels which go from a few tens of thousands subscribers to a few hundreds of thousands in 1 or 2 years. What's the catch?
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 11 ай бұрын
This one is for people above 16.
@Marius26-73
@Marius26-73 11 ай бұрын
@@jareknowak8712 Come on!
@trevorsutherland5263
@trevorsutherland5263 11 ай бұрын
It is really hard for me to imagine people buying $140K cars could possibly care about saving $150 a month in gas. I drive a 2021 Nissan Versa and I don't give a shyte about $150 a month more or less in gas.
@Link_1129
@Link_1129 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the murdered-out look is no bueno on an S-Class. Completely agreed, particularly on the point of the black wheels.
@blazinmark1
@blazinmark1 11 ай бұрын
Please review the BMW X5 50e PHEV. I would like your input regarding whether a standard X5 40i is the move, or the $5,000 price difference is warranted in the move up to the 50e model.
@pmcisme
@pmcisme 11 ай бұрын
After 10 months with a 2023 X5 45e, it is for me. I plug it in daily and average 90% all electric miles monthly getting ~28 miles range in January and ~40 miles in August. The B58 is great when you need it but the electric motor gets me almost everywhere.
@garyclark6747
@garyclark6747 11 ай бұрын
A fantastic DC and AC Charging rate but so sad to hear that they can’t charge off of the ice engine any faster than that. As always great review‼️💯 12:45
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 11 ай бұрын
Im not sure, but maybe it will be fixable by software actualization.
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 11 ай бұрын
A 26.6 kWh hybrid battery to achieve 60 kW isn't all that amazing. If this were a pack built from Kia BEV cells, less peppy, it would be charging at closer to 80 kWh. Did they somehow just use EQ range and cost optimized cells for the S-Class PHEV battery? That would explain the barely 2C charging and only 140-odd hp. Utterly unimpressive, uninspired and lazy engineering all in my book.
@rammanohar8161
@rammanohar8161 10 ай бұрын
They should put this drive train in the new EClass
@EugeneVanDerMill
@EugeneVanDerMill 6 ай бұрын
I remember a Time, when a luxurycar was described by its ride quality... wether it was quiet inside and how soft the suspension is... nowadays everything is about acceleration and agility... wtf if i had the money for one of these... i would drive extra slow to enjoy more time in it
@TheKeithvidz
@TheKeithvidz 3 ай бұрын
Caught my eye on mr.benz channel. Figured hybrid spared environment. You come along reporting barely better than the 500 and more money minus options. 500 the preferable buy.
@timothyburnside3229
@timothyburnside3229 11 ай бұрын
Great review, fantastic car and a good value for what you get.! With BMW, Audi and even Cadillac hard loaded all 80,000 and up the 139,000 for the best is not a terrible price to pay! I do worry about the reliability and service issues with all electrical components in short supply if it breaks the waiting for parts is now months not weeks and for 139,000, I would be upset!
@user-sk9lh5ng9w
@user-sk9lh5ng9w 10 ай бұрын
my choice of cars , Chyanne S hybrid and S class 500 E
@fantomtuba
@fantomtuba 11 ай бұрын
Here for the options game.
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 11 ай бұрын
:)
@Patrick-bu5vy
@Patrick-bu5vy 11 ай бұрын
PHEV is the new BEV.
@MauriceBln1
@MauriceBln1 11 ай бұрын
Looks awesome!
@1MTEK
@1MTEK 11 ай бұрын
I'm here for the car.... and weirdly distracted by the fact that your shoelaces match your shirt. Did you do that on purpose? 😅
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 11 ай бұрын
Can't say that was the plan . . .
@cbatiau2528
@cbatiau2528 11 ай бұрын
Really cheap looking computer screens in that car
@kresimirmilisa5560
@kresimirmilisa5560 11 ай бұрын
vsry good limousine to drive and enjoy.
@user-gy7cy2it4p
@user-gy7cy2it4p 11 ай бұрын
Great reviews as always. However, in my opinion, what a waste of money on this particular vehicle. Everything is nickel and dime. I will go with the 2024 BMW 750e M Sport Package.
@M1911jln
@M1911jln 11 ай бұрын
That car really needs more switchgear and less screens.
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 11 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more.
@pete64041
@pete64041 10 ай бұрын
@@MotoManTV Old S class was better imo...This just looks like a larger C class
@patrickamponsah679
@patrickamponsah679 4 ай бұрын
​@@pete64041it doesn't look like a larger c class. It looks better than the old one
@fendialifh
@fendialifh 10 ай бұрын
All-Wheel Steering???
@erissitone
@erissitone 11 ай бұрын
When I look at an S class, so harmonious and breathtaking, I can't understand how they could design and produce the EQs, including the EQS.
@2bunphettered788
@2bunphettered788 11 ай бұрын
Gangsta! 👍
@dennwilliams3342
@dennwilliams3342 10 ай бұрын
It’s like the auto industry left Detroit and ran right to Atlanta and South Carolina , why ? To hear him say murdered out I get a kick out of……
@B.Piercesports
@B.Piercesports 11 ай бұрын
Forstof all im not driving that winding road.
@PrzemyslawSliwinski
@PrzemyslawSliwinski 11 ай бұрын
5:02 - Have you considered (to avoid auto(!)-suggestion) driving a car first and then learning its numbers?
@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu 11 ай бұрын
Not really certain what I gain over a non PHEV S class.
@gwestrsf
@gwestrsf 11 ай бұрын
How is this better than EQS or EQE? The first thing you said is there's a huge delay in the throttle.
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 11 ай бұрын
Clearly spelled out in the episode: They way they drive. This has the feel of a Mercedes. It demonstrates their knowledge through years of experience building the S Class. The EQS is not that. They drive like a bigger, heavier Lexus RX. Is that terrible, no. Is that different? Yes. And for the folks that are looking for this type of car/experience, my money would be on the S.
@sethgunn8256
@sethgunn8256 11 ай бұрын
It doesn’t look like a $150k plastic Cadbury Egg?
@cfdProptrader
@cfdProptrader 11 ай бұрын
Comparing to S63 VS S580, I would prefer to go with S63 even though it cost more than S580. Thank you for this video.
@YYZ-SRQ
@YYZ-SRQ 11 ай бұрын
The secret that nobody tells you with EV or Hybrid cars, you will be going through more tires than a gas powered car. Tesla's eat tires and I'm sure with the weight of this car you'll probably find a drop of about 34% tread life than with a S500 or S580
@chrishollis6015
@chrishollis6015 11 ай бұрын
Great car but who will buy it? Just buy the 580 and avoid all the possible problems with the EV part. Who really want to plug a 139K car in?
@kylem324
@kylem324 11 ай бұрын
I would imagine there are quite a few possible buyers. For a variety of reasons. The idea that the EV components might be less reliable… The moving parts are far less than ICE. And recent Mercedes engines have required a fair amount of maintenance to keep on the road. Now do either of those matter for the first buyer who will own this for three years. Probably not. But I do imagine most of these buyers will prefer to plug in their car at home, as it will mean on their daily commutes they will rarely have to fill it up with gas, which is less refined than plugging it in to charge at home.
@sholaesq
@sholaesq 11 ай бұрын
I plug in my $170k Taycan , gladly.
@jumboJetPilot
@jumboJetPilot 11 ай бұрын
I might have to consider one. But then again, the Flying Spur and Bentayga seem to beckon as well.
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 11 ай бұрын
Nope for black wheels. Not impressed by the electric part of the driveline, quite heavy, quite short range despite not the smallest battery, not a huge difference in economy.
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 11 ай бұрын
👍
@IceDree
@IceDree 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, no, the blacked out trim just doesn't work on the current S-Class.
@ty5967
@ty5967 11 ай бұрын
Gas prices almost $7 a gallon here in California, I'll take the EQ.
@danger450
@danger450 6 ай бұрын
Or, move out of Commiefornia?
@Max.the.Yorkie
@Max.the.Yorkie 11 ай бұрын
I like the night package
@the-boring-car-guy
@the-boring-car-guy 11 ай бұрын
Those black wheels look unbelievably cheap. Hell no
@The_action_is_the_juice
@The_action_is_the_juice 11 ай бұрын
All this phev stuff on high end vehicles, is either because of the epa or simply following market trends. There is no way in hell, the demographic buying this, truly deep down care about the phev part.
@stevechin1866
@stevechin1866 11 ай бұрын
So true
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 11 ай бұрын
It bugs me to no end that we can hide 120 kWh under the floor of a sedan shorter than this S-Class, and you'll only notice with the height of the floor under the rear passenger's feet. But a 26'6 kWh battery, that just eats away hundreds of litres of cargo space, that a basic BEV with 120 kWh somehow DOES have. And hey, this car doesn't even have a rear motor, it's a glorified starter motor! As with QE, I'm sad to say, horribly lazy engineering and unworthy the price tag. With the battery size, the starter motor could be a good chunk better, and the battery hidden better. The EQC is a converted GLC and hit hides 90 kWh or so somehow.
@MadHolms
@MadHolms 11 ай бұрын
why? why? why can't they hide better than front-facing camera, is like acne on a teenager's face. They could do a better job on the S63, why can't they use same approach on the regular S, .... :(( this bugs me the most ;)
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