Meshuggah - Clockworks REACTION & REVIEW! FIRST TIME HEARING!

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Жыл бұрын

Meshuggah Fans.....FEELIN' YOU!!! Tonight we're coming back to Meshuggah, with a song entitled "Clockworks". How's this one gonna go? Only one way to find out...
Come on in, enjoy the show...I'll see you inside.
Scoring System Guide
10 = Perfection (Unobtainable)
9.0 - 9.9 = Awesome, Amazing
8.0 - 8.9 = Great
7.0 - 7.9 = Really Good
6.0 - 6.9 = Pretty Good
5.0 - 5.9 = O.k.
4.0 - 4.9 = Not So Good
3.0 - 3.9 = Pretty Bad
2.0 - 2.9 = Really Bad
1.0 - 1.9 = Horrible, Awful
0.0 - 0.9 = A Travesty, An Affront To Nature
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• MESHUGGAH - Clockworks...
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@brandonwest3891 Жыл бұрын

It has a groove, David, you just have to feel the music as a whole; guitar, base AND drums.

@Draven2626 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@im_in_immense_pain Жыл бұрын

Strongly agree. This reaction hurt my soul

@opart 10 ай бұрын

"he can't even find one" :) - Meshuggah is definitely not about trying to understand it

@JakobStrand Жыл бұрын

"Where´s one?" A classic question when listening to Meshuggah.

@skreeskraw4770 Жыл бұрын

"I can't find the groove on this Meshuggah song!" Bold statement.

@fashionkiller11 Жыл бұрын

The trick is that the entire song is in 4/4. The Hi-hat or cymbal always (well, mostly. In some parts he plays 8s on the high hat with his foot) plays quartes notes, a steady pulse. The riffs on top of that are polymetric, they don't resolve evenly but often extend over a bar. They usually loop a few timesbefore resolving within 4/4. Once you have an ear for the pulse, it's all different accentuations of the same riffs. So, there absolutely is a groove, it isn't random and if you know how to listen for its quite fun. When i listen to Meshuggah, i don't count anything, i just feel the different ways each riff is emphasized. Granted, this song is nuts, even by Meshuggah standards. Not the best to get into the band.

@billyboostah6308 Жыл бұрын

Agree, not the biggest fan of this song in particular but Meshuggah is really good when you figure it out!

@PanasonicTooth Жыл бұрын

Yeah this song is a pain in the ass to listen to for me, but I love Meshuggah

@tommortlock8783 Жыл бұрын

What this guy said 🙌

@ToluRobertson Жыл бұрын

Once I learned how to hear Meshuggah, it all fell into place. Listen to the drums first, hit hat or ride/crash usually on the 4/4 pattern.

@Liz-cmc313 Жыл бұрын

I'm a huge Meshuggah fan. I've been listening to the new one everyday since it came out. Tomas is a beast 💯🤘

@dan.j.boydzkreationz Жыл бұрын

likewise

@itypewithmykneecaps1 Жыл бұрын

Funny enough, Meshuggah is actually entirely about groove, IMHO. Everything is percussive, including the guitars and the vocals (which gives it a very mechanical feel). This is just one of their tougher songs to do first if you’re trying to get into the band. I’d try Rational Gaze if you want to give them one more shot. Also, it’s cool if you don’t like them. They’re not for everybody. Respect for giving them a listen.

@brokenarrow-zz7ch Жыл бұрын

David laid in the bed later that night staring up at the ceiling still counting

@geometricpattern Жыл бұрын

This guy is more obsessed with time signatures than Meshuggah.

@carlsteyn5089 Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. All the comments saying "but they play in 4/4" forget to mention that you don't need to go find the 4/4. Just enjoy the ride. Meshuggah writes in such a way that it's groovy whether or not you know what's actually going on.

@Defensive_Wounds Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I don't understand how David or anyone can only lock into a time signature and not everything as a whole. This band for example bits of the other instruments act as the timing as if they are part of the drums - I don't think David noticed that.

@Defensive_Wounds Жыл бұрын

This is the opening track to the album which was all recorded live in one take all the band members at once. Danny from Tool specifically got Meshuggah to open and tour with Tool a few years ago just so that he could study Tomas' drumming style up close behind the scenes to learn how he does what he does - Danny can not do some of the things Tomas can do! That is saying something...lol

@jeromebastin492 Жыл бұрын

Never care about or try to figure out time signatures. Just feel the music as a whole. No matter how technical the songs are they are made for you to experience them as a "ride". This song is one of their finest. But it takes a lot of repeat to be able to enjoy it fullest

@Rberg1105 Жыл бұрын

This is the epitome of groove. Song is 4/4

@DavidSmith-fz2xk Жыл бұрын

Lol he's struggling getting confused by the stuff in Between....I he just kept the high hat / crash beat he would see its 4/4 I.was laughing so hard that he was missing it. 😭

@obud3777 Жыл бұрын

In 2018, the band was nominated for a Grammy Award for their song "Clockworks" under the best Metal Performance category! The band was labelled as one of the ten most important bands in Heavy Metal by Rolling Stone and the most important band in Metal by Alternative Press!

@janolavfest1415 Жыл бұрын

All that being said, I still find this band extremely hard to listen to for more than maybe one song. Its impressive, but boy does it grow old pretty quickly.

@alessandropalermo5846 Жыл бұрын

Exactly, but you know, there is no sense in the arrangements and is not groovie😂😂😂😂😂

@viking_nor Жыл бұрын

Lol list's made by journalists means nothing. Who won grammy that year? A band that knows how to groove.

@obud3777 Жыл бұрын

@@viking_nor Everyone is entitled to their opinion!

@Rberg1105 Жыл бұрын

@@viking_nor not being able to groove to meshuggah says a lot more about the sense of rhythm and ability to feel a groove of the listener than it does about the band. They literally spawned a groove based sub genre of metal.

@Retseadog Жыл бұрын

This album is their most progressive, with more diverse time signatures and less standard 4/4. I really recommend listening to Behind the Sun or Dancers to a Discordant System. They’re both easy to follow and still groooovy.

@Bebopopotamus 6 ай бұрын

It's all still 4/4

@obud3777 Жыл бұрын

Love me some Meshuggah! 🤟avant-garde metal!

@jameswatt5557 Жыл бұрын

Every Meshuggah song is 4/4 (hi-hat, crash ride, right hand and/or left foot) with a complex polyrhythm over the top that repeats a complex pattern that resolves itself with a shortened pattern after like 128 beats. If you stop counting and just go with the flow, you’ll feel the groove. Everyone at a Meshuggah show just bobs their head to the 4/4.

@terrynieuwoudt8586 Жыл бұрын

Love this song so much, but I've never related so hard to someone trying to keep count with this the first time. Absolute bewilderment and awe. I was almost in tears laughing at your frustration, great reaction

@ruckusamongus Жыл бұрын

He said " I'm running out of options" 😅😅😅

@nealshinn3096 Жыл бұрын

Literally just watch how he's hitting the high hat and you can hear it and see the rhythm

@suushii90 Жыл бұрын

I think this was a really tough song to start with when listening to Meshuggah for the first time. It is so much going on. I do love this song, but it took me several listenings before I really got it. Meshuggah is alot like that. Their songs is nearly always in 4/4 but there are other layers of polyrythms over the 4/4 structure. And that is what makes it amazing, its actually pretty easy to find the groove even though its alot going on (this song is alot harder than others though). One of the drum element usually plays the 4/4 in most of their songs, so that you have something to latch on to. I would recommend you try any of these songs instead; Do Not Look Down (groovy as fuck) Demiurge (pretty repetitive but easy to listen to) Rational Gaze (older song) New Millenium Cyanide Christ (also older) Bleed (their biggest hit, the drummers hand plays the 4/4 very clearly) So as I said, alot is going on in their songs. They may sound random, but there is a red thread which you can groove to in the background

@boomerwithatumor4624 Жыл бұрын

when you say you cant find the groove thats because other bands have prases of 4 for their grooves. meshuggah do theirs in 16 so instead of counting 1 - 4 you need to find the 1, then count to 16 each time and your brain will find the groove with repeat listens. these guys are number 1 at grooves. but require patience from rookies to escape the 4/4 groove trap

@lisajohnson521 Жыл бұрын

Oh Dave. You don't count when you're groovin my friend LOL. It has a groove. You just gotta feel it!

@alihijazi4451 Жыл бұрын

Oh shit, heeeere we go! One of the most impressive drums performances I've ever seen. Highly recommend you watch Yogev Gabay's Time Consuming series here on KZfaq for a more in-depth explanation of the riffs in this monstruous song

@leonelsjanofwipper3418 Жыл бұрын

They really threw you in at the deep end XD Meshuggah, and especially this song, is a bit an exercise in "In how many ways can we screw up a 4/4" and it is a bit of an acquired taste If you want a more accessible groove try 'Demiurge' or 'Do not look down'. The last one is fun since they are playing a 17/16 riff over a 4/4 beat with the modulations in the 4/4 realm.

@Bebopopotamus 6 ай бұрын

Meshuggah's entire thing is implying other time signatures over 4/4. It's odd meter groupings over 4. You can bang your head to all of it. It's like upside down Car Bomb. Making 4/4 feel unlike 4.

@RoadLessTraveledMedia Жыл бұрын

gotta be honest...like a lot of metal and prog. This hurt my brain too, David. I like to check in occasionally on Meshuggah to see whether I'm into it...still a nope XD

@Retseadog Жыл бұрын

This is one of their least accessible songs. So much rhythm and not a lot of groove because there’s no standard 4/4. Listen to Behind The Sun, you’ll love it.

@Kenjames10 Жыл бұрын

Check out "Corridor Of Chameleons" It might help you ;)

@eliasdoesthings Жыл бұрын

it’s in 4/4, just the 16th note groupings create polyrhythms with the illusion of time changes

@MatthewHarvey-bx5zb 3 ай бұрын

I know I’m late on this video as I’m a new Meshuggah fan (I discovered them because I heard they opened up for Tool). Some of you guys are so rude lol if he doesn’t like it that’s okay. I love Clockworks but that doesn’t mean everyone has too also. Great video!

@lashashubladze9938 Жыл бұрын

4,8 is so disrespectful towards the one of the most skilled drummer of all time. And also, you can enjoy Meshuggah without the counting and figuring out what are they doing every other minute (with the drums especially). It's the magic of this band, despite being heavy as hell, it's kinda meditative

@polymniaskate Жыл бұрын

Be thankful he didn’t give it a 2something like he did for Radiohead once 😂 Look, I’m also for letting the music wash over me and carrying me emotionally rather than worrying too much about counting, especially on first listen, as I find a song can be a lot more than the sum of its (technical) parts, but 1) different people will look for different things, will listen to music differently- it’s his way and it’s just as valid as anyone else’s 2) I recognize the insane talent of Tomas Haake but still find Meshuggah’s wall of sound emotionally fairly impenetrable and not very enjoyable to listen to most of the time

@WebsterA Жыл бұрын

Just follow the high hat. Haha. That's what makes them fun. They don't spoon feed us the tactus. 😉

@WarlockCat1115 7 ай бұрын

If you just hear for the snare and crash them the rest will come naturally. Love meshuggah

@guybuddy1 Жыл бұрын

You "Feel it" the most when you try to bob to it in 4/4, or possibly half time of the 4. There's just a bunch of shifting pulses and rhythms in between the bigger grove. It's easier and a lot more enjoyable if you don't try to think about what's going on too much and just let go. Try smoking a blunt before listening to Messhugah, something might "click".

@Will-sg1qq Жыл бұрын

Once you can understand it you find the flow and time signatures ofc but guitar is special for me with meshuggah they make some of the most enjoyable music to play for me.

@pointlesswasteoftime Жыл бұрын

It's always interesting to me when people try to count a song. I don't understand why. I'm a musician too. But I don't get this obsession of trying to work out songs like that. Just feel the music. I'm bobbing my head. Don't count. Feel. Maybe I'm just wired differently. Autism, different way of pattern recognition... Maybe a music background including jazz, fusion, classical, folk... Dunno. It's one of those things, even as a drummer, a guitarist, a bassist, a sound engineer... I never count, or hyper analyse. With Meshuggah I put the album on, and let it flow over me (like the Virgil Donati albums I have). After a few listens you find the feel, not a count. Recognising melodic lines, repeated sequences... Maybe like Indian music that has verbal time meters. Anyway... I still don't get it. Like genre arguments, "is it metalcore or deathcore? I don't like metalcore, if it's metalcore I hate it." Like, just listen to the damn song. I didn't get this band at first either, or fusion (Donati, Lang, Kawaguchi), but the more exposure the easier it gets. But you have to have an initial interest in the music to get there. I like complexity, but I also like basic. Even minimalist. There's no such as "bad" music, or "overtechnical". Just music you like or you don't like. Subjective. Taste. You don't have to like everything. Music would all be the same if it fitted every persons taste. And that would suck.

@BakaTheStruggler Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Hyperfocusing on one aspect of the song, not figuring it out, and then giving up on enjoying the cohesive package makes absolutely zero sense to me as well.

@Rberg1105 Жыл бұрын

This. It’s very odd. Meshuggah is easy to groove to if you have any idea how to feel music. That’s not to say the polyrhythms aren’t complicated, but that’s why you don’t complicate it more trying to figure it out instead of just listening and feeling it.

@Kazvon Жыл бұрын

The drummer writes all the songs so all the instruments and even vocal patterns are just an extension on the drum kit. It's for sure an acquired taste. Fun fact, Meshuggah doesn't use a click track so the lighting guy has videos online of him playing the lighting board like an instrument for shows.

@lsc9338 Жыл бұрын

I'm not arguing, just asking because of my ignorance of music. Some people and Wiki say most of their song are on 4/4, but can we really say it is 4/4 if their song is on 11/4+9/4+7/4+5/4? Or, can we consider it as 4/4 when it uses totally different time signitures simultaneously? I'm a little confused.....

@THEDavidHeretic Жыл бұрын

4/4 time just states that there are 4 beats per measure, with a quarter note as measure of a single beat. That can be achieved in a lot of different ways.

@brokenarrow-zz7ch Жыл бұрын

Hey Dave, check out Yogev Gabay’s channel. He breaks this song down by each note and shows where the 1 is. He makes you really appreciate the intricacy of the song👍

@DarthKotEI Жыл бұрын

Seconded

@TemalCageman Жыл бұрын

It is in 4/4.... the whole song is in 4/4 regarding the beat.

@grahamkey8496 Жыл бұрын

The only Meshuggah song I like is Demiurge. It's slowish and it has a groove. It's kinda 4/4. Honestly!

@amaranthus4206 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you. No issue with complexity, I love Dream Theater, I love Tool, but this just sounds cacophonous to me. No matter how technically proficient these guys may be, I can't enjoy something like this.

@hakkenarsk Жыл бұрын

Check Yogev Gabays dissection of Clockworks (and *think* clockworks when listening to it) and you’ll get a better understanding. When glints collide it is fucking groovy as fuck.

@Drescher1984 Жыл бұрын

Many of there songs he plays two different time signature. He's plays one on bass drums and the second one with his hands, at least that's how it seems to me.

@im_in_immense_pain Жыл бұрын

Lol I find it so funny when people overthink Meshuggah songs, the whole song is in 4/4. You are thinking WAY too hard. Listen to the song with a metronome im pretty sure its somewhere on youtube lol. and also the DISRESPECT! Bro listened to the song ONE TIME and instantly thought "oH TheReS nO gRoOvE oH iTs sO compLeX I cAn'T fOllOw iT" PLEASE... with all respect, look at the song with. a. metronome. 4/4. 130 bpm. Wait for the hi hat at the beginning, then play the metronome. I promise you will find the groove. The hi hat at the beginning is playing 4 times in 8th notes wait for the queue. I feel like you actually focused on the time signature more then the actual music.

@im_in_immense_pain Жыл бұрын

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@magusmelanie828 10 ай бұрын

I'm spoiled by metal, I've been listening to Meshuggah for so long, I miss that bewilderment on a first listen - this song has so much groove once your brain clicks to it, but classic Meshuggah syncopation It's all 4/4 with "poly rhythms" just take 3 or 4 bars, usually to resolve and repeat

@BakaTheStruggler Жыл бұрын

I've never heard complex music and definitively tried to understand every little bit of it in order to deem it good or not rather than appreciating it as a cohesive package. It's like saying a meal wasn't good because of how it was arranged on a plate rather than its overall taste, textures, and flavors. Or imagine someone listening to Mozart with a confused look on their face, desperately trying to understand the progression of every key on the piano, and then giving up on enjoying it because they just can't guess the specific keys in the piano arrangement, instead of focusing on the actual melody and composition of the piece as a whole. Groove isn't everything (though by the way, I think this song is groovy as fuck because I groove to the song as a whole, not just the drum beat). There's so much beauty in dissonance, technicality, and experimentation, and Meshuggah embodies all of that into their own special brand of calculated chaos. Without any of those qualities, we wouldn't have Prog at all and we'd all eventually hit a creative wall, remaking old albums every few years the way Hollywood remakes old movies.

@brandy8819 Жыл бұрын

Actually really sad because i feel like you would love literally any other meshuggah song. I Am Colossus is a groovy one. Gets me feeling sexy in the car 😅

@anotheral 9 ай бұрын

All you have to do is lose yourself and you'll find the groove

@damonomstead4765 Жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one. I've tried. I've tried really hard to get into Meshuggah since everyone says how amazing and mind bending they are. I just can't. I find myself getting exhausted after listening to just a few minutes of any of their albums. Yes, they are super talented but that doesn't translate into something that's good for me. Grats to everyone who is able to figure it out. Please leave the rest of us alone about em!

@Metlamaniac Жыл бұрын

Small doses of non -groove music is fine in my opinion. So I kind of agree that as a whole it needs to have something to latch on to. However you were already hating it coz you didn’t understand it after quite a short period of time. I don’t have to understand it to enjoy it…. I guess that’s where you differ. I think the impressiveness of their playing overrides a lot of the non-groove moments in Meshuggah for me.

@maxviking3210 Жыл бұрын

Great respect forliatening to the song and speaking your opinion. Everyone ahould do that and everyone is entitle to their opinion. I won’t try to convince you.. but I would like to tell you how I listen to meshugga. I can nowdays listen more concentrated and count and stuff as I learned how they write their songs, but I can only do that when I am in a specific mood. I rather listen to Meahuggah as a meditaion.. I close my eyes.. let the music fill the room and what happens happens. Sometimes I get bored and change to som more traditional music.. but when I get to that meditative state and the music just works with me.. then it is magical.. and counting and things like that is not important at all for me. Funilly the band memebers was asked about mathematical music, they didn’t see that at all.. they just like to play what they find groovy. So I don’t think they aim to compose music to show of at all. But enough said about that.. I listed to them as meditation and thats great :)

@bernhardkulzer9125 Жыл бұрын

I looooooove that song and I want to hear it in the next 007 film! 🤣👍🤘 No wonder that you are totally off, because Tomas Haake is genius and Meshuggah is simply crazy. But there is a guy, Yogev Gabay, who you can find on youtube and he found out that "Clockworks" is all about 2s and 3s. - Well, is doesn`t make that whole stuff easier but he has found the pattern behind, so feel free to look it up! 🤘🤘🤘 Ah, yes, and despite all that chaos it still is 4/4 like all Meshuggah songs - like Yogev Gabay also found out grudgingly and he is a drummer of Marrocan origin where they have some real weird rhythms themselves... 😂

@DarthKotEI Жыл бұрын

He's trying so hard to make something inside him fit something outside of him. It seems so frustrating❤

@heighleybaily8037 Жыл бұрын

I found a groove listening to the guitar. I'm no counter but 6/8 felt good. Still not my cuppa tea.

@jazoon7249 Жыл бұрын

It's in 4/4. it's Meshugga.

@alexanderfernstrom8240 Жыл бұрын

As MESHUGGAH being my favorite metal band. When he rated this a 4.8, I got a heart attack

@THEDavidHeretic Жыл бұрын

Remember it's just the song I'm rating, not the band. I'm open to giving them another shot, we'll see what happens. Who knows, the next song might get an 8 or 9 out of me.

@KytexEdits Жыл бұрын

@@THEDavidHeretic With Meshuggah it's just mostly about following the cymbals, the kicks always do crazy time signatures along with the guitars in a lot of syncopated ways. The thing with Meshuggah is once you "get it" (read: can easily follow the rhythm and not get dizzy) then you can really enjoy the song. I had just about the same reaction as you the first time I heard Meshuggah, now they're my favorite band of all time - they jumped from about 4th or 5th spot to 1st after I saw them live :)

@KytexEdits Жыл бұрын

@@THEDavidHeretic Also this song is off their most rhythmically complex album BY FAR, and this song is in the top 3 most complex songs they've ever done, so not the right song to jump into.

@erik.... Жыл бұрын

@@THEDavidHeretic Well it's one of their best songs so.

@Kenjames10 Жыл бұрын

Everyone has their opinion on what is a good song and what is not. So I respect your opinion although I diagree. Good music doesn't have to have a specific groove pattern. Music is art at the end of the day. When I first heard them I was intimidated but lost. I wasn't sure if I liked them or not but I kept going back because I found their music fascinating how unique and heavy it was. I forced myself to like it because I knew I had found something very interesting. Most Meshuggah songs in fact need dozens of listens until it grows on you and when it does you realize you are witnessing something special. It is almost like they are annoyingly technical on purpose and they make you deserve to enjoy them. So it is understandable that people can't get into them. Meshuggah is a wall of sound that you just take in and ride along. They still have some more accessable groovier/more simple songs such as Corridor Of Chameleons, Humiliative, Suffer In Truth, Ligature Marks and Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave It Motion. So maybe give a chance to one of those. I get bored myself listening to simplistic traditional songs and I need constant switch-ups keeping you guessing what is going on. That's why I like Prog/Tech Death/Djent/Deathcore. It just sounds good to my ear.

@bernhardkulzer9125 Жыл бұрын

And watch Tomas` right hand: most of the time he gives the 4/4 rhythm with that hand... ☺ No offense! It also took me a couple of times watching that incredibly sophisticated chaos! 🤘

@jeffsullivan1678 8 ай бұрын

Brother, its ALL groove lol

@mattdubya1037 Жыл бұрын

give demiurge by them a listen. lots of groove in that song. most of their songs have a TON of grove, they just use very complex rhythms and only a hint of a melody. this is not gateway metal music for “average listeners” and im super glad its not! however you picked one of their most complex songs off a very proggy heavy complex album: the violent sleep of reason. give their nothing album a listen sometime for bouncy groovy type of songs. notable mentions off that album: closed eye visuals, stengah, rational gaze.

@zoltanujvari96 Жыл бұрын

This is called poly rhythm. Its better to whatch hes right hand.. But whatever, it has a groove...

@AA-ou2ye Жыл бұрын

Meshuggah play polyrhytmic metal, but all their songs are in 4/4 according to themselves. Clockworks is one of their hardest song to find the bear I agree.

@supervalue4728 Жыл бұрын

I've came here from Nightwish and now digging Meshuggah. Too bad, once you get it, it kicks buttocks. Trying to time Meshuggah is as bad as trying to figure out Dream Theater, don't bother.

@02SplinterCell02 Жыл бұрын

This band (not song) is grooooovy as all fucks. Maybe another song by them would open your eyes to their grooviness. Meshuggah is the definition of a slow burn but once it “clicks”, down the rabbit hole you go

@k_510 Жыл бұрын

Overthinking and overanalyzing separates body from the mind :D Stop trying to count all the time and just witness the beauty instead :)

@GenXDaddyO Жыл бұрын

Lol, first time listening to Meshugga for most people is ?!?!?!? I’m probably close to your age and I didn’t like them at first either dude. They’ve grown on me. I do like the funky time signatures and polyrhythms though.

@michaelfinck7487 Жыл бұрын

When are you going to put the review of the Rammstein Concert with your wife online ? I can not wait. 🙂

@THEDavidHeretic Жыл бұрын

As soon as she is able to film, she is very busy.

@michaelfinck7487 Жыл бұрын

@@THEDavidHeretic THX for info

@lajc7222 Жыл бұрын

Over playing? Too technical? It's Meshuggah

@dookieshoe2905 Жыл бұрын

Where's 1? XD

@SweetMangoMuncher Жыл бұрын

Stay on the high hats, it’s 4/4

@rc9667 Жыл бұрын

It is always 4/4

@Devypocalypse Жыл бұрын

No offense, but Dream Theater argument. 'Scenes' is one of your favourites but you thought the next three albums were too technical?! 'Scenes' is way more technical in terms of any metric than the following three, especially 'Train of Thought'. Most Meshuggah is pretty much 4/4. You cannot, and I stress this beyond belief, you CANNOT, going in initially to pick up their grooves on one listen. You have to commit. It takes time, I speak from experience. But when it clicks it's the best. I'd rather advice more straight ahead songs by then like 'New Millennium Cyanide Christ' that is much more efficient in its grooves, distinctions of song sections, polyrhythms and overall song structure. These guys are pioneers.

@RDB93 Жыл бұрын

I can’t count it so I can’t enjoy it… Yeah, but you’ll eat a hotdog without knowing exactly what’s in it, won’t you? 😂

@THEDavidHeretic Жыл бұрын

Never touch those things.

@RDB93 Жыл бұрын

@@THEDavidHeretic I was only kidding, mate. Plenty of people can’t get their head around Meshuggah - they’re not for everyone. In saying that, whoever suggested that as your intro to the band made a bad recommendation. They’re one of the grooviest bands in music.

@Zenshirokojima Жыл бұрын

Lol!

@goterfortress1 Жыл бұрын

I think You picked a very difficult song to listen to, even for Meshuggah fans. Maybe you should try with Rational Gaze or New Millenium Cyanide Christ, You might enjoy those better, I hope :)

@THEDavidHeretic Жыл бұрын

Well for the record, I didn't pick anything. This was a request, made by a requester, just like every other song or video I use for a reaction. Remember this channel is 100% request driven, so I don't pick anything.

@patrikstrandberg4578 Жыл бұрын

Trying to break down the beat on a first listen with meshuggah will ruin the experience for sure. Stop counting bro, not even an expert drummer will do that on a first listen. Listen to the riff or the right hand and go with the flow =D

@danny.chulo. Жыл бұрын

Whole songs in 4/4 my guy

@arielurrutia5673 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Superkjeg Жыл бұрын

Haha

@odell4625 Жыл бұрын

Lol. Couldn't stand Meshuggah for about 15 years. Hated the level of technicality and the polyrhythems. It took just one song of theirs to finally resonate with me, and from there they've grown to be among my favorites. I've said this to many..... imagine the first drag from a cigarette, the way the first hit from a pipe burns your throat, a line burns your nose or how your very first shot of vodka hits your stomach. The whole point of any of those is the buzz afterward. That's Meshuggah, and once the buzz they offer kicks in, they are downright addictive. Don't believe me? Make a point of trying out about a dozen of their songs and see what you think at that point.

@Gatapotata Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@faizalmohdzaki70 8 ай бұрын

David Heretic..your intro is fucking funny (haram..haram...harammm). hehe....btw I am a muslim and a BIG BIG BIG fan of Meshuggah!! My favorite track is BLEED.

@shawn4819 Жыл бұрын

Gotta be honest "Well we'll have some fun with this I hope" . My brain immediately went "nope, I'm not gonna have fun." Listened to the song and my initial impressions were right.

@mmcpa Ай бұрын

I will say you totally miss the point of Meshuggah, and are too hyper-focused on one thing than actually understanding the entire song. Can't believe you miss the underlying 4/4 throughout the entire song, which makes the groove and technique in this song incredible.

@poringoba Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j92ihtmhz8qvXas.html Here's the music breakdown. It have a groove, you just cant feel because you dont understand. Its ok, but give it a try to the technical stuff, dont just give up because you dont get it at first. This think that complexity takes off musicianship its just bullshit, this is excuse for lazy people

@idunnol0l Жыл бұрын

Эта песня одна из моих любимых, точно не для первого прослушивания. Very groovy, love it. Check this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j92ihtmhz8qvXas.html

@BuzzaB77 Жыл бұрын

Time signature does not equal groove my friend. This is plenty groovy, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't normally credit metal drummers with having groove.

@StoneShards Жыл бұрын

It's obviously encrypted Chinese morse code! hahaha...the "technicality vs good song" angle is right on...

@bigfannypack Жыл бұрын

Guess what bro… it’s 4/4

@whatizreality0124 9 ай бұрын

It's 4/4 . Just not YOUR 4/4 . LOL

@MrFlorinC Жыл бұрын

I compare Meshuggah to modern interpretative dance. Some people swear it's art , but to me it looks like a bunch of people having seizures on the dancefloor.

@AlexandrePainchaud Жыл бұрын

It’s a 4/4

@robertmickey442 Жыл бұрын

Haha you just struggling to count it. That's not fun. You feel it better when not counting

@timotharcher Жыл бұрын

It's difficult without deeper knowledge of traditional Indian drum music. Sophisticated patterns, pretty far from european approach.

@chrisdriver7776 Жыл бұрын

Meshugga means masochism in Tongan. Jk.

@treylh82 Жыл бұрын

My only problem with this reaction is your unwillingness to try and listen to another one of their songs. You got recommended a bad song to try and get into their catalog. They’ve also been around since the late 80’s so they’ve had a long and very successful career being one of the most influential bands in metal. But to write off a whole bands career/catalog over one song is ridiculous.

@thepooz7205 Жыл бұрын

I keep asking myself over the years why I don’t like Meshuggah or Dream Theatre, because they seem to be something I should love, on paper, but I just never get over the hump. Thanks David, for explaining it via this reaction. I think Metalheads are constantly looking for something that pushes the envelope of what is enjoyable to listen to, and iteratively go through various “X-core” designations until they find the thing they like most that is pushed to the extreme. I think Meshuggah is one of those extremes, perhaps rhythmic complexity.

@im_in_immense_pain Жыл бұрын

I feel like you've only listened to at least 1 or 2 songs by Meshuggah and automatically assumed there was no rhythm lol, at least research or do something! Here, try them one more time. I'm guessing by this comment you've probably never heard this one, its called Demiurge off of their 2012 album Koloss. By far their most approachable song. like almost EVERY SINGLE song they've written, its all in 4/4. (except Future Breed Machine) I hope you will enjoy it

@im_in_immense_pain Жыл бұрын

@@benjamindavis4974 no.

@thepooz7205 Жыл бұрын

@@im_in_immense_pain I didn’t say they have no rhythm. I have definitely heard more than 1-2 songs, as I saw them open for Tool. I have heard Demiurge, but don’t recall off the top of my head what it is like. Maybe I’ll check it out again, as maybe my tastes have morphed a bit in their favor since the last few times I tried them out.

@VelvetKedorkian Жыл бұрын

Please talk without shouting if possible

@hardcorechristopher9174 Жыл бұрын

Meh

@Scott-dz4cs Жыл бұрын

Poly rhythms...🙄

@Scott-dz4cs Жыл бұрын

The crazy thing is I have seen them twice live, and both times they are literally exactly like the recording..... They are freaking machines!

@mjjohansson1702 Жыл бұрын

I must be getting old. Sounds like diarrhea to me.

@ToluRobertson Жыл бұрын

No groove at all?? Old Man yells at Meshuggah Cloud....but in all seriousness, this isn't a first timer Meshuggah song, it may be their most complex. Corridors of Chameleons, New Millennium Cyanide Christ, Rational Gaze, Don Not Look Down, Born in Dissonance, Obzen all much better places to start. No groove lol, damn.