Yeah My Friend, I Couldn't Agree More,..Classic Advanced Engineering!!

The layout of the Me 262 lives on today in modern twin engine airliners.

After all, there wasn’t even a swastika there and Americans get to be grateful for Von Braun. The Apollo program would have been delayed for decades

@@kimmoantola8090 Right. German cross NOT swastika.

@Last chance Cowboy damn are you stupid. The reason why we dont see any swastika anymore has nothing in common with Israel but lots more with an industrial massmurder.

Juno, there is none. Actually this 262 has the german cross at his sides and more interessting the flag of the modern Germany at it's back.

@@kimmoantola8090 operation paper clip

The a 10 was designed by a german designer,after the second world war,I was reading about it a few months ago you have an astute eye for aircraft design.

Totally agree. I have a lithograph titled "In Defense of the Reich" showing four of these planes taking off. One of the signatories on it is Adolf Galland.

Read that book. Great book!

One of the great 'if only' aircraft of ww2!

@@cicero2 without doubt the best fighter aircraft of WW2

The reason is that this aircraft was stolen by the americans, russians and the british and produced in those countries as if it was their own design with minor changes.

@@pergrytt8427 - not really, influences maybe but they all did their own new designs mate

@@pergrytt8427 lmao, no the 262 was garbage. It was a conventional layout with engines out on the wings causing a severe instability when one engine failed and given the Jumo 004b record that was often. The pilot sat above the wing with poor visibility unlike the other jets entering service at the time where the pilot sat more in the nose. Ironically the 262's top speed was limited by its control surfaces which locked at high speed driving the aircraft into the ground around 550 mph. Other piston aircraft reached much higher speeds. Even the Soviets saw the flaws and tried to build their own using the Jumo engine but big shocker they performed just as bad.

Yes, except it's a Yak.

@@alaingadbois2276 ok

@@alaingadbois2276 - At 2:34? Looks like a Spitfire. It has "Invasion Stripes."

Scooter George The aircraft starting up is a Yak, that is the aircraft pointed out in the original post. And yes, there is a Spit also in that shot.

Hi Don, what metallurgy problems are you reffering to??? The GE J85? The J85 originally only had a service life of 3 hours. Later civilian versions like the CJ610 are much improved for longer TBOs.

While that is a popular myth, the Me-262 is no more a bomber than the P-51 Mustang.. Both can carry 2x 500lbs bombs and can operate in the ground attack role... just like any jet fighter in service today

+ Don Hoover Five new-build Me-262s were produced from the same project, with four of those airworthy with GE CJ610 turbines. Paul Allen's museum has fully restored their WW2 original Me-262 to airworthy condition, including fully overhauled Jumo 004 turbines with remanufactured components in the critical sections. (And with functional Riedel starters.) Allen's museum has currently halted all projects, but the Me-262 had begun taxi and brake checks to prepare for test flights.

@@FiveCentsPlease Can you please explain what you mean by "remanufactured components in the critical sections"???

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I already explained that to you in another video. I'm not going to do it twice.

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I did and I'm shitting myself.

each and every tail gunner's nighmare

four cannons because they knew the bomber would only be in his sights for maybe a few seconds . Same reasoning why the British put 8 Browning's in the Spitfire and Hurricane initially . If you look at the German bomber in the English war museum ,the wreckage has hundreds of .303 holes in it . Took too long to shoot down ! and then the Hispano became available . Still with the slower rate of fire , 4 x30mm cannons would put enough shells out to do the job. War is brutal alright , but that plane looks so awesome . If I could buy/afford to run one , I would rather have one of those than a P51 .

è stupenda.

had to rewind

@@xisotopex Good man!

with 4 20mm on the centre line and self activating flaps!

@@marktimmer2212 4 *30mm* cannons, the most powerful standard gun package of any fighter during WW2.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Bedankt Sander, ik nam aan 20mm omdat die beschikbaar waren.

@@marktimmer2212 welkom

Yes the German technology is ahead of everyone else

Agree, btw swastica are forbidden to use in germany.

It has the German flag on the side

Its a C model made after the war.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 The one built in about 2005?

@@ZephodBeeblebrox One of several built under license from DASA (Messerschmitt) in Everett Washington.

@@ZephodBeeblebrox Five new Me-262s were built from the project but only four can fly. A mix of single seat, two-seat and conversion models were constructed. They are typed as Me-262A-1c, Me-262B-1c, or Me-262A/B-1c depending on the configuration. One original has been restored to fly with improved original engines, but work is presently halted just after taxi testing began.

@@FiveCentsPlease That's pretty much what I read. It'd be nice to hear the original Juno 004s running.

that s not right at all .. there where dobbelseater as nightfighter and trainer ... attacking and hunter where oneseater de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262

@@christianweissmann5250 Good info, thanks!

The Jumo-004 is indeed the mother of all jet engines. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arRln7GAvtKzkmw.html

Dr. Anselm Franz not only designed the most successful jet engine of WW2... he also designed the world's most successful gas turbine helicopter engine series the Lycoming T53/T55 that powers the Bell UH1 and AH1 and the Boeing CH-47 Chinook AND the AGT-1500 that powers the M1 Abrams tank!

Burned way too much fuel to be of any practicable use.

@@brookemcquale5096 They shot down over 550 Allied aircraft... Gloster Meteor and Lockheed P-80s like all jets have high fuel consumption... but this is easily offset by huge speed and performance advantage that the Messerschmitt Me-262 offered.

@@brookemcquale5096 , a funny thing to say about the birth of the jet engine. Regarding WW2 the Me262 came too late, luckily. PS. came to think of it, could it be you think the British jet engine used a lot less fuel.

"1a" models are powered by Jumo 004b Orkan engines. "1b" models are powered by BMW 003 engines "1c" model are powered by a GE J85 variant developed by Nazi engineers brought to American by Operation Paperclip and Operation Lusty.

Do you know what kind of jets? J-85??

+ pete froehling The GE engines can make about 40% more power, however the aircraft still has the original structural limits. Take off performance and reserve power are greatly improved. The builders stated to not fly those new Me-262s beyond the load limits (such as above 550 mph) and the pilots have references in the cockpit for the correct power settings to use for flight.

My father was flying from Italy to Scotland in a C-49 by order of top brass to pick up a shipment of scotch. I don't know where along the trip but he suddenly encountered an Me-262 that pulled up alongside him, needless to say, a C-47 (155knots) doesn't elude an Me-262. The two pilots looked at each and smiled and the German pilot indicated he was low on gas, tilted his head as if to say, "I'm sorry, I just don't have time to shoot you down." and sped off. Ah, war.

@@brookemcquale5096 , NO WAY it was his lucky day to fly away safely.

@@brookemcquale5096 Your dad's luck was definitely in that day then. And the top brass still got their scotch and a tale to hear

@@brookemcquale5096 Put that up as its own comment, I like stories that tells of soldiers who acted human. I once heard a historiean talking about how many soldiers who missed their enemy targets on purpose. Especially in 1ww. They are in my oppinion the real heroes in a war. Being forced to fight, but staying human. Off course there are a many cases or situation where it is shoot or be shot, but thats not what I had i mine.

ME-262 'C' models were fitted with GE J85 variant designed by Nazi engineers brought to America by Operation Paperclip and Lusty.

The Messerschmitt Me-262 was in service until the early 1950s.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Ahh, thank you for the info.

The Messerschmitt Me-262 had excellent asymmetric flight characteristics compared to the Gloster _"Meatbox"_

At low speeds?? Low meaning below 300 kms or so . From memory@@sandervanderkammen9230

@@jackd1582 Compared to the _"Meatbox"_ the Me-262 has excellent asymmetric flight characteristics... _"Meatbox"_ is a name that was well earned... an engine out on takeoff or a go around in "flying coffin" was usually fatal until the Martin-Baker ejection seat was available... and still was fatal if the pilot didnt react quickly enough.

The original, I think Jumo engines, had always been a little unreliable right from the beginning. So, from a modern day safety aspect they were refitted with alternative engines. Not sure what make, I did read about this a few years back.

This plane is a reproduction, with modern engines. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_262_Project

The 'new' 262's have modern jet engines which are derated down to the same output as the originals.

+El Globo To summarize a long story, it is one of five reverse-engineered new Me-262s. Blueprints for the plane are incomplete. The US Navy still owned an original Me-262B-1a trainer from WW2 and it was in sad shape, so a company presented an idea to the US Navy to restore it in exchange for being allowed to copy the parts to build a few new Me-262s that are safe to fly. They are mostly copies with the exception of the engines which are smaller and more powerful GE units. And the engine nacelles are adapted to hold the smaller engines and keep the original look and CG/weight to specs. Other changes include better brakes, reinforced mounts for the landing to correct a design flaw from WW2, and some modern cockpit instrumentation. The GE engines have a lot of power but the planes are operated with power settings to mimic the original engines so that the airplanes are flying in the design limits. Also, regarding original engines there is a private museum that has fully restored their WW2 Me-262 with original engines that were rebuild with better aerospace metals. All work on the project is presently on hold but they had reached the taxi testing phase before the work was stopped. It may be a while before that original Me-262 makes any short flights if it ever does at all after all of the money spent on it.

@@chazgisby8876 The GE turbines are not de-rated per se, but in the cockpit the throttles have stop gates for the correct power settings and the pilot can reference a data card for the correct settings. There is about 40% more power available than the originals, so there is lots of reserve if needed.

The Jumo 004b engines met or exceeded the RLMs 100 hour PFTR reliability test required for adoption into Luftwaffe service. This is the exact same 100 hours PFTR required by the RAF and USAAF during WW2. Operation Lusty proved that the 004b Orkan engines averaged TBOs in the 50 to 60 hour range.. EXCELLENT by WW2 standards.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 After WW2 and I presume with acceptable alloys available, Russia only managed around 60 hours TBO with their Klimov copies of the Jumo 004. They built about 1200 of them. They also copied the BMW 003s but as I understand it the copies were not reliable.

The Me-262 cockpit allows good visibility for both landing and taxi compared to a propeller driven tail-dragger.

Yes...landing was a problem for a single Me 262...because 20 Mustangs were waiting for her...

@@dervogelmann1125 Some very interesting tales of Me-262s jumped on final approach... but the truth is all aircraft (including modern jets) are extremely vulnerable during takeoff and landing in a low energy state... The truth is Allied pilots paid a very heavy price for hanging around German airfields looking for a jet.. Allied losses to ground fire were so heavy in fact that the practice was officially banned by the USAAF.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I didn`t know that...yeah...starting and landing was the problem...right...my point was...what can a jet do against 20 mustangs ?...nothing...

@@dervogelmann1125 The truth is on final approach was the only time a P-51 Mustang had any chance against the Me-262s. The German jet fighter had a continuous cruising speed higher than the P-51s top speed with WEP and could turn and manuvere at speeds more than 120 mph faster... it rendered propeller driven aircraft completely obsolete.

Yes, newer " 1c" version "1a" models are powered by Jumo 004b Orkan. "1b" are BMW 003 "1c" models are powered by a GE J85 variant.

+ Jo LiMag Registered D-IMTT in Germany at the Messerschmitt Museum, Classic Fighter Industries Me-262 Reproduction. The data from the project listed it as a conversion model configurable as a single seat example or dual cockpit, though curiously the German registration lists it as a single seat model. Conversion models are typed as Me-262A/B-1c. The project originally constructed two conversion models, two dual-cockpit models (Me-262B-1c), and one single seat model (Me-262A-1c.) Powerplants are GE CJ610 turbines from the business jet class, de-rated J85 variant. Paul Allen's museum has rebuilt their original Me-262 to airworthy condition with Jumo turbines that were restored with safer metallurgy. But don't expect to see Allen's' Me-262 flying soon since the museum has currently halted all projects and work..

@@sandervanderkammen9230 - thx !

@@FiveCentsPlease- thx !

This aircraft was built under license from DASA (Messerschmitt) in Everett, Washington. Me-262 "C" models are powered by a GE J85 (variant) designed by Nazi engineer brought to American by Operation Paperclip and Operation Lusty. The original J85 engines were actually *less* reliable than the original German made Jumo 004b Orkan engines.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Thanks for the update. My book was published about 20 years ago. Can I get the name of your source please?

@@johndemars2551 The project began as a partnership between Herb Tischler at the Texas Airplane Factory and Classic Fighter Industries, along with surprising cooperation from the US Navy to allow them to restore and reverse-engineer their deteriorating original Me-262. Tischler was known for his talents manufacturing several rare new-build aircraft types, so he was a logical choice. Later CFI and Tischler had a contract dispute so CFI decided to move and complete the project at their facilities in Washington state. CFI constructed five new Me-262s for clients, with some leftover structure and parts finding their way to Germany for a museum project. As SVK says, Messerschmitt did endorse the project and granted the new Me-262s factory serial numbers starting from the last model produced during WW2. They have a unique type assignment of Me-262A-1c, Me-262B-1c or Me-262A/B-1c depending on the configuration (single seat or dual control.)

@@johndemars2551 Sorry John, I couldn't find your book, what is the title? I'm assuming that you are not a pilot? The aircraft's German registration number D-IMTT and its original serial number, Messerschmitt _Werk Nummer 501.244_ are both clearly visible painted on the tail fin. In case you are not aware aircraft tail numbers can be searched online rather easily these days. Any questions?

And where, pray tell, do you keep your Me 262 hangered?

@@scootergeorge9576 It's currently a hangered from the ceiling in the bedroom

The aircraft are powered by General Electric CJ610 turbojet engines, concealed inside detailed reproductions of the original Junkers Jumo 004B engines and nacelles.

C models were made with GE engines... ironically the J85 engines were based on captured Nazi technology and originally used the same Chrome based alloys as the Jumo 004b Orkan engines.

+ James Govett Paul Allen's museum has restored their WW2 original Me-262 with the Jumo 004 engines that were rebuilt with better metallurgy. All work at the museum is presently stopped after Allen died from cancer and while affairs with his estate are sorted out. A terrible shame after all of the money and effort, just as the Me-262 was conducting taxi and brake checks.

@@FiveCentsPlease Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "rebuilt with better metallurgy"? Krupp P-198 _Chromadur_ is still used in gas turbine engines, its sold today under the brand names INCONEL A286 and INCOLOY A286. The secret to the Jumo 004b engines long TBOs was the pioneering use of hollow bleed air-cooled turbine nozzles and blades and high temperature resistant Cerro-Alumina ceramic coatings throughout the hot section.

+ xisotopex New-build example with GE turbines.

Nah. The combined industrial output of the US, UK, and USSR meant Germany never stood a chance. The German army on the Eastern Front had a saying: "if it's in the air it's not German". They could not compete with the numbers of prop-driven Soviet aircraft... so how could they spend more hours and resources to make fewer 'jets (than prop planes) and expect to stop the tens of thousands of Soviet tanks coming at them. And the US had so many long range fighters, we could just follow them back to their airfield and destroy the airfield. I actually met a Mustang pilot in '74 who told me of how he was flying low one day and almost caught up with a 262 (I don't know how close, maybe within a couple hundred yards) then the 262 accelerated away and turned. The guy kept his Mustang going as fast as he could and eventually got closer and closer... and again the 262 accelerated away just as the guy was about to fire. After four times the guy realized the 262 was repeatedly getting the Mustang to fly over AAA and then accelerating away. He did not bag a 262 that day.

Yes ! Lucky that Austrian french mustard gased Feldwebel was a IDIOT ! Commend from a Prussian left over !

+GUNNERSIGHTZEROED A special project constructed five new Me-262s, and four can fly with GE engines. One restoration will be using improved original engines. They were taxi testing before all work was put on hold.

+ Kenny Raiden It's not legal to put a swastika on a flying aircraft in Germany, although it is allowed for museum display or discussion.

@@FiveCentsPlease Thanks, and it’s a great plane !

I believe it was 562 mph. But that may have been cruising speed.

In combat trim, top speed was 560mph. Luftwaffe pilot Heinz Herlitzius set a DAC airspeed record in the Me-262 of 624mph in level flight across the official FAI 3km distance. The fastest air-breathing aircraft in the world until the F-86 Sabre in 1948.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 excellent answer! Fastest "air breathing" aircraft---efficient way to put it. Brilliant.

@@jamesvetter4033 Well, the Messerschmitt Me-163 and the Bell X1 were both rocket powered... Turbojet engines rely on atmospheric air for thier oxygen supply and thus have a lower power density than chemical rocket engines.

+331SVTCobra The plane is new-build and the turbines are GE. Five were built although one is a static example. One WW2 original has been fully restored to airworthy with improved original engines, but the project is currently on hold.

Powered by a GE J85 variant designed by Nazi engineer brought to America by Operation Paperclip and Operation Lusty. Ironically the German Jumo 004b engines were more reliable than the early versions of the J85. Many people feel the same way about the British Union Jack... it is considered by many as a symbol of hate and mass genocide. Freedom of speech is an unalienable right... it outweighs any perceived benefits of censorship.

Não somente os caças, mas os tanques e outras armas poderosas Alemãs também tiveram uma significativa mudança do início para o fim da guerra...Se começa nesse nível, até os aliados pensarem numa reação já teriam perdido, não teria "boca" pra ninguém!

No, the Engine from the 40's r to unsafe.

This plane is a reproduction. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_262_Project

@@spinnenbein1 not unsafe... just very rare.

@@michaelhines4132 not a reproduction.. brand new Me-262 C model

Yes it was a Brit invention/creation. But , the Nazis were the 1st to implement its use ! If the Nazis had the v1, v2 , jets , and the atomic bombs afew years before , we be talking German , and some Japanese , and a bit of Italian .

Its time to dispel that false British propaganda myth. Frank Whittle did not invent the jet aircraft engine, in fact wasn't even the second to do so. The facts are irrefutable, the first successful demonstration of jet aircraft engine was August 27th 1939 in Rostock Germany. Whittle would not achieve a successful demonstration for another 2 years. The Gloster Whittle E.28 was the 4th example of a jet propulsion aircraft.

@@hugbug4408 Thanks to the information age, the notion that the jet was a British invention is no longer tenable.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Okay

@@bernardotorres2532 Are you not familiar with the development history of the jet engine? The first jet engines were built by Hans von Ohain and Max Hahnn in Gottingen Germany between 1934 and 1936... Frank Whittle did not begin actual work on jet engine prototypes until he moved to Rugby in 1936. Any questions?

Like most jets...

Those were tigers and they did a pretty good job.

YES!

Actually it was the Boeing B-47 that is a direct descendant of the Messerschmitt Me-262. The Boeing B-47 was developed into both the 707 and its twin engine variant the 737 which is the most successful jet airliner in history.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 youbare correct; I was thinking only of the appearance, twin engines, swept wings etc.

@@trjnsd6874 The Boeing 737 also owes its retractable leading edge slats, stabilator trim system and modular construction to the Messerschmitt Me-262.. Few people recognize just how revolutionary and influential the Me-262 really was.. No single aircraft ever changed aviation as much as Germanys first jet fighter. Cheers!

This particular aircraft is a C model made in the early 2000s.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 So it’s a reproduction. That had to be pricey.

@@rotorheadv8 No, it's a brand new Me-262 manufactured under license from Messerschmitt... it has officially issused Messerschmitt serial numbers.

@@sandervanderkammen9230 Gotta be pricey

@@rotorheadv8 All jet aircraft are expensive... the fact that its flying is priceless.

I remember hearing that the way P51 pilots learnt how to eliminate ME 262’s was to fly near German airstrips and attack them as they were taking off or coming in to land when they were very vulnerable.

@@michaelweaver7898 Absolutely US and allied fighters feared that jet, their was a story I heard from my father's uncle who was a mechanic in England during the war, that one of the pilots told him they were in a flight formation of 6 P51D heading into Germany, when out of nowhere a ME 262 came roaring thru the flight of P51's he said the flight leader was all shook up and didn't know how to respond, so all the flight team went after the jet, to their surprise the German jet was GONE!

The number one reason for the late deployment of the Me 262 was development issues with the 004 jet engines. When the engines did finally go into mass production in the Summer of 1944, engine life was as low as 10 flight hours. And had the war dragged on, the USAAF would have had the Lockheed P-80 jet fighter. And even if you believe the Me 262 to be the superior aircraft one on one, it's probable they would be outnumbered four to one. And pilots? The Luftwaffe still had a few "Experts" in 1945, their numbers were few.

@@scootergeorge9576 10 hours? No... spare us the Alliboo myths.

It's a myth. Me-262 was dropped behind by it's engines. It was still a novel technology and at the end of war Germany lacked material basis for full scale production of reliable jet engines.

Tiene muchas limitantes, pero podría. Y también depende a que otros aviones enfrente.

@@manueljonathancaceres1265 por ejemplo a un F16? Este avión con que Armamento cuenta?

@@fernandogonzalez033fernand8 No soy experto, pero si estamos hablando de profesionales y con el armamento estandar de cada avión, el F16 lo hace pelota. Hay mucha diferencia. Incluso si el F 16 solo usase su cañon/ametralladora, y no misiles. El ME 262 solo contaba con 4 cañones de 30 mm.. Depende mucho de las capacidades, experiencia, formación, armamento y equipamiento electrónico al que se enfrente.

@@manueljonathancaceres1265 claro , pero ya no creo que ningu país lo usé en servicio al M262.

@@fernandogonzalez033fernand8 No, por supuesto. Eso igual no significa que haya perdido su utilidad. Si puede volar, todavía se le puede adosar una ametralladora y hacer mucho daño.

The particular aircraft was built long after the war ended and is of no historical significance other than its type.