meta is simple minded. It doesn't take into account context. The character's context, or the player's biases and preferences. There is far too much variation in player's values to create a "meta" that doesn't state its assumptions. So referring to meta for Genshin is like referring to astrology in real life. It's entertaining, but not useful.

Meta doesnt mean your only option. It’s just the best option. I clear abbys with amber that doesn’t mean shes good.

Congrats on making a video that hurts my mind, body and soul! Something has been written to get compensation, whole this is too long to fit in a single comment so a section of it will be in the replies Response to description: the title “META is UNRELIABLE” doesn't make any sense when put under scrutiny, the only way it makes sense is to assume they mean meta to be referring to chars rather than the concept which doesn't make much sense when in the same desc they say “meta is always changing” their main argument tends to be meta is unreliable due to current meta chars having the likelihood to be powercrept in the future, but the existence of the possibility of a different future meta does not invalidate the current one. While statements such as kazuha becoming more ubiquitous than venti, pushing him out of the meta are true, the rationale behind it is extremely flawed as they don't mention the dmg bonus given from kaz which is just as or more important than their differences in cc, they also say a nothing statement of “which provides better synergy which means nothing without context. Next usage rates are mentioned which typically are not indicative of the meta and closer to the wider casual player base’s perception of meta. In the second paragraph they go onto say “what if u dont have x char” which just isn't an argument, they state is albedo genuinely a loss compared to chiori which, yea he is. They then encourage people to experiment with chars as if that's not what people have already done and as if through experimentation isn't how metas are developed and discovered. And lastly they attempt to imprint their own views and values as the only way to have fun. 1:45 Yes, enemy lineups no longer allow venti to trivialize the game like in 1.0. But that isn’t what meta is. Meta is the best characters and team comps that make 36 starring abyss as simple as possible. What you actually mean is that the game no longer throws him a bone with light enemies, which is caused him to lose his meta status because he works inconsistently 3:10 You are at a disadvantage WITH venti more often than not because he barely functions against most enemies now, and having a burst reliant character in overworld is just a bad decision. 3:15 No one has ever considered sucrose a venti substitute since probably 3.0 at the latest, the fight is sucrose vs kazuha for a reason. Venti is 3:20 She actually does do it more consistently, her skill while being much weaker works more consistently and can be aimed easier for more accurate grouping, and her access so sacrificial fragments means more grouping, which I’ll get into with my next point. 3:28 ????????? There isn’t a single catalyst that buffs allies' energy recharge, and if we’re being generous and assume you mean generating energy through particles, literally every other character can do that with and without the favonius weapon series. Her being a catalyst DOES give her access to actual supportive weapons like hakushin ring, ttds, prototype amber, and fruit of fulfillment. You mention her c6 burst buff but that only work for one element and you completely ignore her most powerful ability of buffing other characters EM. 3:46 This is just flat wrong, sucrose is better than venti by a clear mile, and has been for years at this point, 3:55 Welcome to building team comps 101, but it isn’t that simple, if it were that simple, you wouldn’t be making a video on meta, would you? 4:30 Kazuha on the flute, do you know what he does? (you do because you state what he does later in the video and read the descriptions, though you do screw that up multiple times later so who knows) THE FLUTE GIVES ATK, AND KAZUHA NEEDS EM. luckily for you there is a craftable weapon that gives EM. 4:55 No it does not, yes they both infuse, but they do completely different things 5:30 See? 5:57 nope, not nearly enough damage to be put in that category 7:30 one hits once, the other more times 12:40 logic can be spread to every character 15:48 No amount of mitigating Venti's flaws can make him even come close to kazuha's versatility you're just dreaming. 16:40 You just don’t use venti in single target because it doesn’t work, burst doesn’t swirl pyro at all 16:40 the reason you're missing venti's elemental burst absorption is that you're doing a terrible job at spacing his black hole so that i can actually make contact with the element 17:13 you say that as if kazuha needs to be kissing the opponents to hit them with his skill. His skill has great aoe on its own and can drag farther enemies towards him if you hold it (though if you actually knew what you were doing you'd have no need for it most of the time. 17:35 If you don’t need the buff, why use venti at all? Him not doing anything is a Venti problem (large problem, venti like the starbucks size and its ventis problem, double entendre) 17:42 With all due respect, taking that long amount of time to clear an overworld boss is not good damage. 17:53 the abyss is literally the only thing worth having a META built upon because the rest of the game is easy. and yes while it does change constantly there has never been a time where certain characters who were great in 1 abyss become useless in the following abyss. This is why the meta is always changing, which is a good thing. 18:24 That's the point, if it was the same enemies every time there would be no point to have different characters and teams built, which is a bad thing in a gacha collection game. 20:10 it’s floor 8 you’re not expected to have insane damage. And yet kazuha is STILL better than venti in this case due to his immediate grouping capabilities and better ability to swirl shields. 20:20 showcasing poorly built characters and bad teams clearing against floor 8 which people clear by the time they are AR 35-40 doesn’t prove anything against the way META is evaluated in this game. 23:26 “There’s no real meta for this” IT’S FLOOR 8 OF THE ABYSS PEOPLE DON’T STRUGGLE WITH IT SO NOONE CONSIDERS IT FOR THE META. also lvl 70 enemies, the level cap for the player is 20 higher than this 27:40 these entire rant on enemies doesn’t understand the purpose of the way each enemy is designed, they all have a specific strategy and weakness they want you to use and you’re punished if you don’t abuse it, it’s good good, albeit annoying, enemy design 29:20 No you can’t, just giving a character more damage does nothing when they don’t work against whats in front of them. 29:30 What do you want here, this isn’t dark souls, the only thing they can do is make it a time trial, which in the case of chamber 1 first side gives you unique challenges with the fact you have to defeat the waves outside of the standard 20 second rotations. 29:40 ignoring the abomination that is the team, ITS ALMOST LIKE THE GOAL IS TO KILL ENEMIES, AND BIG DAMAGE KILLS THE ENEMIES 32:10 Kazuha does not have attack buffs 32:35 This might not be a complaint but still, it’s almost like the no revives thing IS PART OF THE POINT OF THE ABYSS 32:45 You can in fact heal in the abyss, and once again I say, WHAT DO YOU WANT 33:45 Builds issue, just get better builds. Constant reactions means literally nothing if they don’t do damage continued in replies

Sucrose is a substitute for kazuha* Venti has no substitute, he's the BEST at crowd control and energy recharge. Sucrose and kazuha increase damage based on Elemental Mastery and shares this buff with teammates. Kazuha does it better, since it also scales on his own atk and has an stronger crowd control than sucrose. Sucrose is more focused on the EM, since her crowd control is based on her elemental skill and her burst scatter them. Venti is still meta outside abyss, and he seems to be more viable to imaginarium theater now. Venti is anemo, and all anemo characters are meta since they can carry verisdiscent artifacts. Great video tho! Generally, when they say venti is outside meta, they're talking about specifically 12 floor at abyss and his team compositions being focused on crowd control or freezing, that inst really what abyss focuses on. But he's still the king of crowd control and exploration

the clıck sound is disturbing pls Add audio after recording the video 😊

META is not even a well-defined standard. it is just the majority opinion of people perceived as authorities, often backed by flawed mathematical models. when you realize the correlation between cup size and META rating, it all becomes clear

I prefer Sucrose over Venti First 4 stars character from Noelle banner and solo Anemo character with Travel for 2.5 years She only struggle in Abyss and combat events Even I have Kazuha, I still use her for second Anemo CC At this point, will continue with sucrose because I am loyal to my characters

You just got a new subscriber! Commentary like this is my favorite kind of content, keep up the good work!! (also I didn't mind the mouse sounds ((if anything they made the video feel more sincere)) although I can see why others did.) :DD

Meta is "clicking"

Do you have a discord?

"Meta is unreliable look I'm using venti" meanwhile uses Bennett and xiangling, one of the most broken meta combos since release. Also Barbara is one of the most nerfed characters in the entire game. Venti is btw (and always was) meta. The thing that makes venti meta is multi wave small enemies combat content especially if they can be frozen. The only reason why he isn't talked about much is because the abyss is drifting away from it because venti exist (since Inazuma certain enemies have venti suck resistance that was nerved afterward like specter and all samurai variants) they put more bosses in abyss because venti and ayaka were just dominating everything. His constant fast application and swirls shred resistances so fast and reliable, his field time (with skill into burst animation cancelling the skill) is almost none and he regenerates like half of the entire teams energy with one go. While he doesn't give a huge damage buff like Kazuha, his constant suck has better grouping capabilities than the stun suck combo of Kazuha. When frozen stun doesn't apply but the suck does making venti the king in frozen teams. Furthermore Kazuha shatters frozen enemies when plunging, making it better to just fly cancel his skill (press skill and then double tap jump). Venti also deals a lot more front loaded damage than Kazuha. The only downside is that Kazuha can double swirl elements with just his skill and is a lot more versatile as frozen was pushed into being a niece with frozen immune enemies (bosses, hydro avatar blob thingies, abyss herald/lectern except hydro). (For double swirl you and your enemy need to have different elements applied and you need to hold his skill. Kazuhas grouping is better if you first burst and then use the skill as the burst staggers (or even stuns by making them fall prone) and staggered enemies have a lower suck resistance. Venti should have the thing applied in reverse with his skill and burst but as he Auto targets and has lower range it doesn't even matter.) There is also the fact that meta characters like neuvelette can clear floor 12 alone, even with only 4* character and 4* weapons abyss is clearable. You don't need to use a specific character in this game as it is designed with casual players in mind. (If people are talking about meta, it is always how fast they can clear floor 12 and how much resources you need to spend) It's not that meta is unreliable, it's just not needed. The only ever hard (and hard) combat content in genshin are the local legends in fountain like Rocky. And the only combat content that needs certain specific character requirements in the over world is dendro cube (as far as I know). Also I skipped a little bit through but you said "sigwinne is better than furina" that is not true. Sigwinne gives a flat damage buff that is less then a properly built geo opera singer to the on field character. Furina gives an unconditional 75% (could be higher or lower by a few percentages) damage buff to the entire party (both at the end of damage calculation)(with C1 it increases to 100% and c3 to 124%). But as furina does a percentage buff it is good for her to be at the end of damage calculation while flat damage increases want to be at the start of it (like Bennett). Sigwinnes heal may be good but there is no demand for that except in furina teams. The problem is that furina with Jean is just better then sigwinne with furina due to vv resistance shred and the healing being faster. Furina also does very high damage with her summons with almost no on field time and high uptime (and good hydro application) while sigwinne has a long onfield time on her skill and burst for no real return comparably. (It can be uncomfortable to be half health in the overworld with furina teams but that's why she has a healing mode) Bennett and sigwinnes don't really need to deal damage to function. Bennett just needs high base attack and burst level and the rest should go in HP (base attack comes only from weapons (not percent) and feather level). Both are sufficient as lone healers on the team. (I didn't look to much into sigwinne but with C1 her damage buff becomes worthwhile to replace Jean in a furina comp and with c2 it is actually better then Jean) Chiori and albedo together is just about spreading your resources thinner as you need to farm the same thing twice (and you only have one cinnamon stick). Also chiori triggers with na while albedo triggers with any damage making albedo better with someone like navia (as pyronado triggers albedo) while chioris tomato has perfect synergy with Itto (because of ushi being a construct). Also please cut down your videos, I'm like 20 min in and you haven't talked much about meta but only about how venti and Kazuha are different. Writing a script or something would really help to understand what you want to say.

Ur desc and ur vid only work when ur understanding of the word meta isn't correct, chars being good i the past and then no longer being good as well as different instances having different metas isnt meta being unreliable that's literally just the meta is a concept not rigid thing. But tbh after watching that little xq and albedo segment this might just be bait lol, although its 1 hour long bait so it took some effort. This is mostly just responding to ur desc tho, "what if u dont have x char" isnt an argument and its through experimentation that people have found the meta lol, venti still becomes relevant every couple of months coz an abyss so happens to work rly nicely for him, but ur also missing the part where kaz has utility in his buffing where's venti doesn't. This is proly the most casual video ive ever watched and u should like keep meta out of ur mouth lol, u can still enjoy the game but don't make a meta discussion like this until your more informed.