Drill hole patterns on your metal lathe with this spindle indexing wheel and tool post drill.
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@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
I admire anyone that can get a job done with the tools they have on hand. I too enjoy the creativity of this trade. Happy New Year to you.
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gavinoliver80743 жыл бұрын
This is the best lathe demonstration I've ever seen for me personally. Brilliant information 👌
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Wow... thanks!
@joeybobbie12 жыл бұрын
Hi Winky, I made me a Drill extension for the Tool Rest, and also the Tap Handle like you made. You wouldn’t believe how much I use those. I think I will try to make one of these next. Everything you make is incredible. I just watched this Video and probably All your Videos for about the 10th or 20th Time. I really like watching how you come up with a answer for a Lot of Machining problems, to make it a Lot easier to get the Job done. You, Mr Pete, Joe Pazinski, probably didn’t spell that right. Old Tony, Blondihacks, Mattys Workshop, all of you guys are Great. There’s many more but, I really appreciate all of y’all. Thanks again Winky 👍
@WinkysWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is a big compliment! Did you see the indexing with a gear? I think's a little easier and is able to do most combinations you might need. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rselfcab16-yqWQ.html
@fiddelinpaul4 жыл бұрын
Long ago I needed to do a similar indexing job. I got a large gear about the size of your disc and bolted it to the spindle with a long threaded rod from the front of the spindle to secure it to the rear of the spindle, as you did. I made an indexing block bolted to the rear of the headstock. I could thus index the spindle to make the required spline using a HSS bit on its side. It was a tedious process, 36 teeth on the workpiece and 200 parts to deliver. But it worked. This was when I started my shop in 1961 and no money to buy a mill and indexing head. When the job repeated 11 years later I just hobbed them.
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Cool story! Thanks for sharing. I don't use the indexing wheel very often but it's nice to have.
@fiddelinpaul4 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop Yes for sure. In all my years of machining, I must have made or bought so many tools, fixtures, and all that type of stuff. If you only need it once and don't have it, there goes the job. Your creation will serve you in ways you cannot imagine yet and it will be a boon to have it at hand.
@Koko-qq8ji6 жыл бұрын
What a great way to spend a sunday morning having coffee & learning something. Thanks...your tool post drill caught my eye now! 👍
@NicolasPoirier6 жыл бұрын
This entire project of yours was very well put together!
@jimjakosh25065 жыл бұрын
I like it. I made a 72 hole index wheel for my new Nova lathe and I use it a lot. Nice work, thanks for sharing...Jim
@JaakkoF6 жыл бұрын
Heads up for everyone who intends to use a saw blade to index holes: make sure that the spacing of the teeth is equal all around. Because usually saws, reamers etc. are made with uneven spacing to reduce chatter/harmonics.
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jaako, that's a good thing to watch for. I have seen a few 60 and 80 tooth with groups of teeth and then a wider space. Never anything that wasn't symmetrical and always fairly obvious but never the less good to watch for.
@ronaldwalker67905 жыл бұрын
Xnudu has the best indexing system I have seen. Thanks for your video.
@tonywaller6806 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you and everyone that take the time to post these great videos with down to earth commentary.and excellent coverage,if anybody has any negative comments I suggest you keep them to your self!!thanks again TW Canada,s west coast.hey joe pie,,,,nice to see you comment....
@rubencardoso6355 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you very much. Also, congratulations, your shop is amazingly clean and ordered.
@Siskiyous63 жыл бұрын
Excellent, I too used that blade trick, and built index wheels like yours on the lathe carriage feed, from the videos the master, Lyle Peterson. I also made a wheel on the end of my Atlas Lathe lead screw so I could advance the saddle in .001 increments. The Atlas of course has a 60 hole index built in, and I have a mill, so I won't need your idea, but it is an excellent one. Guy Lautard, in his series of three Machinist's Bedside Readers, elaborates upon this idea. I have a spin indexer and have slips at time too. I really need to tear it down, and since I have a project for it, but am waiting on a reamer, I guess tomorrow is the day for that. Joe Pi is right, this field is an amazing one, and your videos show that well.
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Love Joe Pi... Yes I love doing machine work, Thanks so much for the positive comment!
@IBWatchinUrVids5 жыл бұрын
Ingenious. I've watched a couple of your videos, you've earned a subscriber.
@joewhitney4097 Жыл бұрын
Great build video. Kudos to both Tublicain and yourself, love both your channels. Thanks for sharing.
@WinkysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
To be grouped with Tubalcain is huge complement. I met him last year, what a great guy!
@ronpeck32266 жыл бұрын
Nice job ;Y, I also used Mr. Pete's idea (100 tooth saw) to enlarge the dials on my lathe. Lyle is a gem! Guess I'm going to make one of your tool post drills. Thanks again for sharing!
@rogeroconnor51826 жыл бұрын
great job,Mr Pete is the man. i have 3 old craftsman lathes i am working on and learning how to use them .
@CreaseysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea using the saw blade. Enjoyed!
@MegaChekov6 жыл бұрын
Very well done Thanks for sharing my next step is indexing and tubalcain is the one who got me into this mess well done all the best from John in Texas
@JimmiePorterAtStuartArts6 жыл бұрын
A cool project. I need to do this for my mini. Thanks for the video!
@ronmiller6824 жыл бұрын
Great video and well layed out. I love it when people make their own pieces for a machine so they can do their jobs with it. Thank you for sharing and keep up the great work.
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@davidsymalla5 жыл бұрын
Very cool, way to get it done with what you have!!
@tectalabyss5 жыл бұрын
You are a man after my on heart Sir. I have been trying to catch up on your videos. I have Liked,Shared and added to Playlists. I hope this helps. All my best. Bobby
@lilflatty24726 жыл бұрын
Saw blade was a really cool idea. Never thought to do that. Your videos are very informative. Thanks.
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, however I borrowed the saw blade idea from Mr. Pete.
@TAWPTool6 жыл бұрын
Great idea! Nice video and thanks for sharing and adding to my project list.
@MaturePatriot6 жыл бұрын
That looks like a project for me also.
@johnw.peterson43115 жыл бұрын
Mr Wink you are one smart machinist and craftsman. Very inspiring as well. Thank you .
@WinkysWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
Well thank you sir!
@rnwagner6 жыл бұрын
Nice idea and project. I have been wanting an index for my old lathe. I think I am gonna use your idea. Thanks
@stevestokes42066 жыл бұрын
That was a great idea very intelligent and an awesome video you've got one new subscribers thank you
@paulgreenlee1902 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of your videos, I tell myself that I can do that. I don't have a drill press but could make a milling attachment and an indexing wheel using the lathe as my drill press. I want to make a D1-4 attachment to fit my 2-1/4"x8TPI nose spindle. When it's fitted correctly, I will lock-tight it to the spindle nose and maybe pin it in one spot. Instead of cutting the excess nose threads off I'm going to make it flush with the threaded nose so I will be using a thicker piece of round with a shoulder that is flush with the very back of the spindle, that's where I will thread a hole and use a small screw for extra insurance that nothing will cause it to thread off. My bore is 1-3/8" so a little larger but the same concept. Thank you for sharing, great job.
@WinkysWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea! I never thought about making an adapter. It would be nice to be able to turn in reverse sometimes.
@paulgreenlee1902 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop Well I have a lot of the measurements and I asked my brother who is a ASME to get me a copy of the B5.9 spindle noses that has all the nose configurations and drawings. If I can pass anything along to you I will. Making the plunger detents is the easiest part of it. I wanted to try and make the Camlocks but I don't have the machines to do it. I went to a company called MacIt, they sell the camlocks and plunger detents and a very reasonable price. For many hobbyist this is a shot in the arm. They rest is to have a indexing component to drill the holes in the right locations. I bet you could turn it into a series that would be a big hit on KZfaq.
@mrfarmall-vk4gw4 жыл бұрын
Pretty awsome! I spend hours watching mr pete, good work
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
He is a good one. He also helped me a lot.
@kennethdahl47916 жыл бұрын
Winky, I have a Logan Lathe almost identical to yours and I have been thinking in the past how to make it index so I could drill from the tool post at prescribed intervals. Your video was exactly what I needed to see. Thank you.
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Hello Kenneth, thanks for the positive comment. If you only need 2 4 6 and 8 hole patterns you might consider using a 24 tooth gear. I plan on making scribe marks on lathe and x y tables dials so I need 100 positions otherwise, 24 would have been perfect. If you make the expanding arbor make sure you get it tight to avoid slipping.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Thanks for the video.
@davidhamilton76286 жыл бұрын
really love your design!
@joedell716 жыл бұрын
Very nice.Great video.Just subbed on the strength of this. Ive been wanting to build one of these for my atlas craftsman. I really like your drilling fixture as well. Got lots of good ideas from this. time to go turn some hand wheels on my machines. :D Cheers
@frankmora83366 жыл бұрын
Great Video, I like the way you edit getting right to the point. Not a lot of wasted time. No fast forwarding here. Might miss something. I too have learned a lot from Mr pete222.
@iangraham67306 жыл бұрын
Just what i need! Thanks, and great job!!
@TimNummy6 жыл бұрын
This is really clever - nice work!
@1607rosie5 жыл бұрын
Great idea ! Never thought about using gears and saw that are already indexed . Thanks for the information
@DavidLindes4 жыл бұрын
On the one hand, it strikes me as an ingenious practical solution. On the other, I was sad not to see a solution that didn't rely on someone else already having done the hard work of figuring out placements. Ah well... still good stuff!
@joell4396 жыл бұрын
Perfect tutorial for the Christmas weekend. I need to go find me a saw blade. Thanks for sharing. Joel.....
@wolfitirol83475 жыл бұрын
I like this elegant lathe...and the way he does the job..
@rc166honda6 жыл бұрын
Great video really informative and very ingenious. Well done!
@BuildFixCreate5 жыл бұрын
I really like this idea! Nice work!
@lloydprunier44155 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I missed the saw blade on tubalcain's build on MrPete222 channel. I have a thick backplate on my Atlas lathe and have drilled holes in it to use for indexing. I will definitely be looking into building the tool post adapter for the drill. Thanks for posting and I'm now a subscriber.
@millimetreperfect5 жыл бұрын
I like your cut off tool leg, I fact the whole vid was interesting. I was pleased you put that claw hammer down and picked up a ball pein later on 🙂
@dicelabiblia74613 жыл бұрын
What a great teacher you are, thank you for sharing.
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you sir. If you don't need so many combinations this video is an easier approach. This indexer covers 2, 3, 4 and 6 which covers most bolt patterns. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rselfcab16-yqWQ.html
@douglasstovall23956 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the practical projects. I'll be making the drilling attachment then the indexing wheel. Hope you have a merry Christmas and a healthy, happy New Year.
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Yes I think it is practical for many things, I might not trust it to cut a gear but that's not the sort of thing I'm into.
@johnbarnwell4004 ай бұрын
Just a great informative video! Thanks for the idea !
@WinkysWorkshop4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@danielbandera50706 жыл бұрын
práctico y sencillo...muy buen trabajo! me suscribo y a ver el resto de los videos
@NSTRAPPERHUNTER6 жыл бұрын
Nice little project, thanks for sharing.
@raymuttart54844 жыл бұрын
Very Nice Mark, enjoy your videos.
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray
@ronicard6 жыл бұрын
Very cool video! Some really clever ideas in this video.
@RickRose6 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Mr. Pete, so I'm glad you gave him a shout-out. However, you've added your own innovation to his ideas here, so I say, "Bravo!"
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick! I see you also liked a video of my Aussie Wimshurst Machine.
@RickRose6 жыл бұрын
Yes--I had never heard of them before. Yours is a work of art AND science.
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, they are great fun to make!
@anthonycash46096 жыл бұрын
Very inventive idea using the saw blade. That was really good. I made an indexing sprocket for my South Ben a while back by bolting a 40 tooth sprocket to the back of my 6 inch chuck. I got the idea from Steve Jordan's You Tube video. I also made a tool post drill similar to yours but I put bearings in mine. Keep up the videos. Good work.
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Yep... there are many ways to do things, that's for sure. Bearing would be great! I oil the sleeve bearing quite a bit while using mine. I doubt it will ever wear very much. I don;t use it very often an the bushing has a lot of surface area. Thanks for the comment.
@rasfsa6 жыл бұрын
Im making one now. Thanks for the awesom info.
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Suggestion... be careful about slippage. When I messed up the 100 holes it was due to the saw slipping a little. It's also a good idea to pin or tack weld the spoke to your expanding arbor. The arbor itself holds very well but where the wheel bolts to the arbor is a problem area.
@Rolingmetal6 жыл бұрын
That was great. Thank you.
@Tryin2FlyII6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I seen mrpete or "Tubalcain" do this very set up but like you said every Lathe will be set up a bit different using the 100 tooth saw blade - I plan on building the same type of indexing set up for my SB lathe but I cant work in my garage even WITH the wood burner BLAZING away It is just to darn cold here in N.E. Ohio sad to say I'll have to wait till warmer weather Yes you are correct mrpete is a retired Shop teacher and he is a VERY good one at that! I have learned almost everything I know about my SB lathe & Machining work from his videos he makes it look so easy lol and he has the "Gift" to explain things in such a way that is very easy to understand - Thanks for posting your way of doing it as well !!! good video
@kerrywil16 жыл бұрын
Great job thank you for the effort to do this video
@tomeyssen96745 жыл бұрын
I like that...very nice. Great idea and design. -T Kudos to Mr. Pete.
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and I agree
@stewartmackay5395 жыл бұрын
Ingenious, many thanks.
@shawnmrfixitlee64786 жыл бұрын
MERRY CHRISTMAS ! loved this vid share .. Enjoyed ..
@MrRudintzer4 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow I going to make me on of those.You are very creative and thanks for polishing. de Mike....
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Cool! It can be useful. After making the video I had to tack weld the spoke to the mandrel. You need to do this because it can slip. You could also use a small roll pin and pin the wheel to the mandre if you don't have a welder.
@angelramos-20055 ай бұрын
Great video,Mark.You are methodical and consistent.I keep an eye on your buddy mrpete too.Thank you.
@WinkysWorkshop5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@stemer11496 жыл бұрын
What a great project idea, thanks for sharing.
@garymucher95906 жыл бұрын
Your voice actually has a Tubalcain sound to it. Nice idea and layout. Makes me do some thinking now...
@stevesfascinations15164 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I never thought of using a saw blade as an index wheel. Thanks for sharing. Thumbs up and subscribed.
@craigmonteforte14784 жыл бұрын
Very Well Done Again ! Ive had a lot of Machinists in my family and Machinist freinds over the years every time i watch one of them work at their trade i learn something new on hoe to calmly solve a problem that comes up just like i saw you doing in the video
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And thanks for watching
@derekwilkinson79394 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m a total beginner and that would be a great project.
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Cool... Hey, if you make the indexing wheel tack weld or pin the spoke to the hub. I had it slip on me
@colsanjaybajpai57474 жыл бұрын
Very ingeniously put together
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you sir
@colsanjaybajpai57474 жыл бұрын
Winky's Workshop God bless you sir
@HanstheTraffer4 жыл бұрын
I love to watch applied genius. Thanks for sharing. (The good ones make it look simple)
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the compliment!
@kerrywil15 жыл бұрын
Another great video
@paulgreenlee1904 жыл бұрын
Great video and a great results for anyone who wants an index wheel on a lathe, who said it couldn't be done at home having fun doing it. I watch quit a few of Mr. Pete's channel, I think if he continues he will develop a great personality and get over being shy. LOL
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you Pete. Mr. Pete has been at it a long time... lots of good videos too. Fun is what it's all about... gotta have fun.
@johnfuller62125 жыл бұрын
well done, clear and to the point.
@TomokosEnterprize2 жыл бұрын
I love prowling around your channel my friend. I watched you cutting the 100 tooth gear indexing on that same wood saw blade on your lathe just recreantly. I still think that is a simply ingenious way to turn a lathe into a gear and ? indexer. I am always impressed with your ability to use or adapt anything at hand to make jigs and fixtures with what you have laying around the shop. You have a very open mind indeed my friend. Even with an oops you found a way to make it work. I love it when you use the word "About" or "There about's" It shows the inventor side of you, LOL. Every time I see the Rapid Tap come out I know you will have a trouble free and smooth cut. It has been my go to for nearly 50 years. I can see you using this jig for a very long time. The great part of metals is they never go bad eh, LOL. Well my friend, I never thought about making this in steel but one add on the locator pin would be to make the locator pin arm from a piece of regular or a thicker piece of banding. Then get that stamping jig to work on the hole count. I have a couple friends I am sending this to. I know they are both going to love this. This is one more super jig from you bud, WELL DONE EH.
@WinkysWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I sold this lathe but made a new indexer out of a 48 tooth gear for my south bend. It's a little easier to use and 48 gives me what I need most the time. I still have the saw blade but need to rig it up to work on the South Bend lathe
@TomokosEnterprize2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop I am sure you already have it figured out.
@joeborovina22136 жыл бұрын
brilliant ! thank you ! Just found you and subscribed As a 62 y/o newbie I am amazed at the great learning I am getting .From a visual to audible sounds of the lathe to watching some things over and over.Thank you
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, you're the same age as me.
@joeborovina22136 жыл бұрын
Im not as handsome and have 50 more lbs than you ! Not to mention lack of hair !
@leebrewer11904 жыл бұрын
Excellent build - thanks for sharing.
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and thanks for watching!
@marciobrito51686 жыл бұрын
Nice video...Greetings from Brazil
@CleaveMountaineering3 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant!
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Well thank you. I don't use it a lot but at times it is really handy to have.
@goldgulfcoastdesignericsho86283 жыл бұрын
Using the saw blade is so cleaver! 👍🏻great job
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 I can't take credit for the idea. I learned it from Mr. Pete
@goldgulfcoastdesignericsho86283 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop Mr Pete has some great tricks for sure
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
@@goldgulfcoastdesignericsho8628 - Yeah he helped me a lot in the past
@minskmade5 жыл бұрын
pretty awesome....great channel.
@James-fs4rn6 жыл бұрын
nice work! thanks for sharing.
@e2jw4 жыл бұрын
Excellent practical value, and just plain Brilliant sir!
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Wow... thanks!
@John914066 жыл бұрын
nicely done!
@leoblazer746 жыл бұрын
Great video. And I agree about Mr Pete's channel, he has some great content.
@barretthemelgarn21633 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@albrustkern29775 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos. for indexing wheel I used number 35 roller chain sprocket 60 tooth and a 120 tooth. A few links of anchored 35 chain able to lay in the teeth gets your index. I painted incremental sets of teeth for quick reference. Not tool room accurate but darn close. Thank you so much for your videos!
@WinkysWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. The chain and sprockets are a darn good method and just as accurate as the method I used I'm sure.
@jay76054 жыл бұрын
That is great. i will try make me one of them. Thanks for showing us how its done.
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, after I made the video I discovered that the wheel sometimes slips. The spoke need to be welded or pinned to the madral. Just one spot weld is plenty... or a pin if you don;t have a welder.
@jeffryblackmon48466 жыл бұрын
Very clever! I am subbing.
@kennethandree18496 жыл бұрын
ery good video, well explained. I also learned this from mypete222 (Tubalcane) another really good chinned is Keith Rucker at vintage machinery. Keep up the good videos
@danceswithaardvarks32843 жыл бұрын
Perfect for my needs thanks. Mine is for a mini wood lathe, but the design and method will work fine.
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
That's great. I made another video on this topic also. I used a 48 tooth gear. This gives you a lot of combinations and it's a lot less work. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rselfcab16-yqWQ.html
@donaldnaymon32704 жыл бұрын
Great job. Works great. Good ideas. Thank you
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ChannelofRichPierik6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@GarryFullerSr6 жыл бұрын
What a Great Video. Yes, Mr. Pete in a Sharp guy.
@MaturePatriot6 жыл бұрын
MrPete222/Tubalcain is my favorite, followed closely by doubleboost.
@1971VoiceoftheMummy4 жыл бұрын
That is innovative! Nice work.
@WinkysWorkshop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you sir
@geobrown94133 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! That saw blade indexing trick actually goes back way before the internet was born. I remember seeing it in an early eighties article in The Home Shop Machinist magazine. The procedure was similar to yours except the author also wrapped a heavy cord around the spindle and weighted it, pulling it, to insure that the clicker made a positive engagement depth each time on the blade. I'd go dig out that article, but I lost all my HSM"s to a flood.
@WinkysWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Cool! The only person I saw do it was Mr. Pete on youtube. I now have another lathe and utilized a gear for indexing. I like it better although I still use the saw for dials. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rselfcab16-yqWQ.html
@YourOldDog6 жыл бұрын
Inteeresting project. Keep in mind that you can use the quill expanding plug you made for another use. If you attach a crank handdle to the end of it you can use it to thread on the lathe by hand which is easier for some to get right.....like me !
@WinkysWorkshop6 жыл бұрын
Now that's a good idea! Thanks.
@air54plane5 жыл бұрын
nice!!!,Pete 222 is a vary good teacher!
@WinkysWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@manishdas26655 жыл бұрын
you are master of lathe
@rtkville5 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your site after searching "indexing on a metal lathe". I like! Thanks.
@WinkysWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. If you have a set of change gears you can usually find the right tooth count to get the holes you need. That way you can just build the mandrel for your spindle and come up with some kind of lever to lock into a tooth. Please look around... I'll look for your comments.
@rtkville5 жыл бұрын
No change gears, I have an Atlas Quick Change 54 which is great but the whole indexing thing has been driving me crazy for a long time. I guess I'm not that bright....@@WinkysWorkshop
@markswoodworkingtips23505 жыл бұрын
@@rtkville - That's nice little lathe... cool that it has the quick change. I've used my indexing wheel about 3 times total but I've also used my 100 tooth saw blade more. I use it to make new dials. I think I pointed then out in the indexing wheel video. I sold that lathe and now have one with the quick change gear box. Unfortunately is also has terrible dials. I'll make a video of making the new dials. The original dials on the Logan are terrible!