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@handleymachine44213 жыл бұрын
Gonna needs one hell of a spatula to scrape that print off the plate.
@NuclearTopSpot3 жыл бұрын
Did some one order a hydrodynamic spatula with port and starboard attachments and turbo drive?
@Justin06203 жыл бұрын
You just need a wire EDM and it will pop right off. If you can pay that electric bill you can easily buy one .lol.
@johntheux92383 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@afbennett30383 жыл бұрын
@@NuclearTopSpot quality reply right here
@angrydragonslayer3 жыл бұрын
@@Justin0620 i dont have enough fuses in my house for one....
@edgemaker113 жыл бұрын
Now sticking to the bed means a whole different issue.
3 жыл бұрын
XD
@sfcoawol62733 жыл бұрын
was my exact thoughts
@julianbarthelmess16533 жыл бұрын
Try getting this off with a scraper 🤣
@willi-fg2dh3 жыл бұрын
so . . . don't fall asleep on the wet spot.
@snakemasterthorno3 жыл бұрын
I figure that ones the metal cools down, the print will release by itself.
@Le_Blnk____3 жыл бұрын
Electric bill: YES
@BossTweed693 жыл бұрын
😆
@afourtrackmind3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha Exactly my thoughts
@thewelderdude3 жыл бұрын
electric meter go brrr
@ezion673 жыл бұрын
And don't forget a few miles worth of TIG wire and the protection gas. Casting from gold might be more economic.
@kleinfeicht3 жыл бұрын
Electric is for Industry so cheap...so its nothing... like some cents... ^^ meanwhile... the weldmaterial and the gas... also the time wasted on a cnc ... hard to explain .. cool but yea
@jimsvideos72013 жыл бұрын
Your mill now has an undo button.
@TrevorAvrett2 жыл бұрын
It's always been the undo button
@unogazzy843 жыл бұрын
And other people complain that they have huge problems when they try to remove their 3D-prints from the print plate...
@DT-vl8xm3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes that shit might just as well be welded on lol, but yeah- good shout!
@Ale_Lab3 жыл бұрын
aahahahaha you won!
@user-qy9rg3nt2l3 жыл бұрын
A little glue stick and it pops right off.
@mizery953 жыл бұрын
Actually if that’s steel (which it looks like) it wouldn’t weld to aluminum (which seems to be the print surface) so after it cools a few hits with a hammer and chisel should pry it off
@unogazzy843 жыл бұрын
@@mizery95 I actually thought of that but I'm not really sure. It would make sense though.
@loadinglevelone3 жыл бұрын
Now just fold the build surface and the print pops off.
@mick0matic2 жыл бұрын
So you buy a new printbed every time? I usually just slightly bend it...
@johnandrews94332 жыл бұрын
@@mick0matic r/woosh
@smellygluebag98933 жыл бұрын
man keep this stuff coming, These are the techs we need the most now, simple stupid and available. This crazy metal powder printers are no good for mainstream use.
@vincentguttmann22313 жыл бұрын
Well, it depends. If you want delicate geometries, I don't think you can do that with a CNC. Really, they are just making a piece of specially-shaped rough stock.
@mick0matic2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentguttmann2231 Check Daishin crown (as a quick example). Idk bout you but thats already pretty detailed (more than this octopus)
@M3rVsT4H2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentguttmann2231 I mean.. How delicate do you want? If you're making something out of steel, delicate probably wasn't in the design brief.... But even so, you can just keep putting smaller ball-end mill bits in there and doing more passes. If you were prepared to put all the extra hours into the part, you could keep doing finish passes all the way down to an engraving bit. Still. I'm as curious as everyone else as to how they plan to get it off their build platter. :D
@albinoviper28762 жыл бұрын
mig welders have been around since 1948 CNC machines have been around since 1958
@chimpun19792 жыл бұрын
@@vincentguttmann2231 I think a complex design is a better example. Like trying to print the exhaust side of a turbo.
@PNWLeviathanFPV3 жыл бұрын
“Metal printing attachment” It’s a freaking MIG welder.
@wrecksandtech3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the original metal 3d pen
@zachbrown72723 жыл бұрын
eh, a plastic 3d printer is a glorified hot glue gun. if it works, it works.
@butwait3 жыл бұрын
@@zachbrown7272 by that logic humans are also 'glorified hot glue guns' put substance in the top, a softer version comes out at the bottom
@zachbrown72723 жыл бұрын
@@butwait I mean early hobbyist FDM 3d printers literally used hot glue gun parts, but I do not see any flaws in your logic.
@unitedspacepirates90753 жыл бұрын
@@butwait Love humans. Hilarious and nutritious.
@rolfvanderbijl2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing machine! This really gets my motor running and makes me look forward towards the future.
@SilverRook3 жыл бұрын
KZfaq Algorithm : Wanna see some videos from 2 years ago ... ME: Thanks!
@sepg50843 жыл бұрын
So what if it's 2 years ago?
@SilverRook3 жыл бұрын
@@sepg5084 ummm making a joke at the expense of the algorithm ...... calm down lol ffs take your meds
@CodyDavis913 жыл бұрын
Old anti-piracy ad: "you wouldn't illegally download a car" This guy:
@paulbeddows60143 жыл бұрын
That is the most amazing thing I have seen in a long time !!!
@Rdosramos3 жыл бұрын
Now that's what I call metal 3d printing. Need to build one of these ASAP!
@hyperhektor77334 жыл бұрын
the welded octopus looked better(more natural xD) without milling
@vibhumrajtripathi42762 жыл бұрын
This deserves so many more views
@georgikotlarski2912 жыл бұрын
Could you please specify what kind of material was used in this video? Also, what was the actual build-up time? What temperature do you cool substrates to before adding the next layer? At work, we use a WAAM technique to make Al (at the moment) parts, so I am asking out of curiosity and to share some experience.
@bonamin3 жыл бұрын
Do you use Glue Stick ?
@WhyCallMeLordLord3 жыл бұрын
I prefer to put down gaffers tape so it doesn't stick as much as painters tape but holds better.
@vincentguttmann22313 жыл бұрын
Yup, glue stick works a treat for me. When you're done, just spray it with some water and re-spread the glue with your fingers, all while the heated bed is still at temperature. Just watch out to not use too much, or else you will have to soak your bed and print in water over night.
@Veezhoo3 жыл бұрын
Hi yes, I'd like one metal octopus for inconspicuous reasons please? This guy: ok it will be done tomorrow *tomorrow* That'll be $15,450.
@davesnothere88593 жыл бұрын
I could imagine this in the corner of a repair shop used to make 4 or 5 things a year worth it. Instant access to a part and no skills required to create. Time and limited production application for this. I could see it.
@pseudonymous13823 жыл бұрын
@@davesnothere8859 I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that anything 100% made out of welding material isn't recommended for anything integral.
@sexyfacenation2 жыл бұрын
@@pseudonymous1382 there a company in Australia that uses it to make ship propellers. Aml3d
@bigspin692 жыл бұрын
@@davesnothere8859 you can probably throw away the print platten afterwards, actually it's welded not printed... cannot imagine, that it'll be usefull for anything
@pseudonymous13822 жыл бұрын
@@sexyfacenation I'm aware of metal 3D printing. That's extruding actual steel, not entirely made out of welding material. Still, I'd be concerned about the layers potentially sheering since they're all in one plane like the grain on a plank of wood.
@knightofelemia15672 жыл бұрын
I like the unfinished side it looks more realistic the tentacles look like they actually have the suction cups neat idea.
@mikebloomfield17813 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. That would save thousands of dollars from fixing mess ups right on the machine.
@UltimateSeduction3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it much cheaper and faster to grab a lump of metal and cnc mill it directly?
@superchroma2 жыл бұрын
IIRC, the welds can be stronger so there is some interest as whether this process could be used to make hard wearing surfaces but yes, if any old metal will do...
@kuei123 жыл бұрын
I guess I could use this to fill in the gouges the operator made in the table from not setting offsets correctly.
@devers63 жыл бұрын
For the entirety of this video, I had two words in my head: “Duty Cycle”
@vincentguttmann22313 жыл бұрын
Do you think that they wouldn't have taken that into consideration? I was more worried about print bed warping because print adhesion is too high, like with some PETGs.
@nickopedia56693 жыл бұрын
Yeah this makes me want to try hooking up the MIG welder to the 3D printer but its a crappy little 1970s 110v machine with a low duty cycle (that I've hit many times on even small projects). Thankfully it has a thermal shutdown.
@nathanieldking3 жыл бұрын
It's a time lapse. Probably threw out the shots during the pauses to keep to video going
@davesnothere88593 жыл бұрын
@you did what on video? 100% duty cycle is a pretty normal thing.
@TheSoulFallen2 жыл бұрын
@@davesnothere8859 it really isn't though, talking some pretty expensive equipment for that.
@ViktorGino3 жыл бұрын
Did you use a glue stick on the bed? Also what filament is this, i like the finish
@The_Gabinator2 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really good idea, it would be way cheaper and possibly quicker, depending on the shape, to do this instead of using like a solid block of whatever material.
@ThrunRC3 жыл бұрын
WOW that is great. Well done !
@lucapepel58513 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to buy me one of those and print a brand new FGC2!
@sugarboy42803 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting concept, good job!
@burtybasset44864 жыл бұрын
Cool, but I imagine running the MIG for the same length of time as some of my 3d prints will be incredibly expensive.
@noonecz52013 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the thing is that this doesn't print with 0.4 nozzle :D
@rhyswoolcott3 жыл бұрын
@@noonecz5201 bruh, the post is 8 months old.
@noonecz52013 жыл бұрын
@@rhyswoolcott And?
@burtybasset44863 жыл бұрын
@@noonecz5201 True, my CR10 is about 250 watts. I'm not sure what the largest size in diameter MIG wire you can get, maybe 1mm? Which might cut down your print time by half or more, but what is the wattage??? Assuming a MIG pulls 16 amps (you can get more power hungry ones) at 230 volts, using ohms law gives us 14.375 ohms of resistance. I2R then gives us 3,680 watts. (This is apparent power and does not take into account inductive and capacitive reactance to give us a true power figure, but we started with a hypothetical so?...). How long does the average print time take? Say 3 hours being very generous... My CR10 consumes 1500 watts (in twice that time at full power). Our hypothetical eco MIG consumes 11,040 watts. So this might get expensive and failed prints are going to be especially costly. And the non of this takes into account the milling process that has to be done to the rough shape and its electrical consumption.
@sergarlantyrell78473 жыл бұрын
@@burtybasset4486 You mean 11,040 watt-hours?
@chrismofer2 жыл бұрын
super cool. if it could swap between adding and subtracting for every layer you could do true precision 3D metal printing with internal and external fine tolerances.
@jay89boy2 жыл бұрын
you would need to predict deformation due to heat. and model your maching in to that if you want to hit fine tolerances
@muwat88292 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍 Is it possible to switch automatically between welding and milling ? I mean weld several layers then Mille them , welding again and so one . By this way undercut shape can be generates !
@nathan1sixteen3 жыл бұрын
Putting this on a 4 or 5 axis machine would be amazing
@NeroSaysNo4 жыл бұрын
Question. What machining center did you use and were did you attach the welder to the spindle or what and how did you probe the bed do you have like a Renshaw and how did you manage your post prossing in the cam software relating specifically when switch from the additive [mig welding] to the subtractive [machining] and tips or trick to setting this up would be amazing.
@AdnanASyukri3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is amazing. I want to build one
@henki19864 жыл бұрын
using mig welding, combined with cnc, work just like 3d printing machine, that nice and idea, more look like DIY.
@vikeshbubbles2053 жыл бұрын
This Old Tony has a CNC welding video where he tries this
@chrishayes57553 жыл бұрын
laser sintering is 10x better tech
@666neoselen2 жыл бұрын
possible ways of upgrading: - gas chamber - layer made entirely to help cutting the piece from the printbed. think about the inner perimeter of an arc (like a "viaduc" an old type of water conveyer) - something to flatten the bed after cutting the thin pillar layout.
@sebbes3333 жыл бұрын
AWESOME! How do you remove it from the base metal slab?
@eightyduece96702 жыл бұрын
I liked it just as well with the lumps
@jbjisn2 жыл бұрын
What's difference with the conventional CNC milling starting from a cylinder material except 'more chips'?
@Indians2473 жыл бұрын
Ace work..and great guts
@THOMASTHESAILOR5 жыл бұрын
I want one.. It looks like a MIG welder attachment building it up.. What was the cycle time, complete ?
@KoushikPaulliveandletlive2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine endless use of this machine. Just make ur own tools.
@scottwilliams8953 жыл бұрын
Hail Hybrid! 🐙
@jdwright12508 Жыл бұрын
That’s really cool 😎
@kevindavis91243 жыл бұрын
this is awesome
@dikiebird39532 жыл бұрын
This is so cool
@benbixel32522 жыл бұрын
I need a welding mask to watch this. Cool video thank you
@theoriginalcitrussky0623 жыл бұрын
Imagine doing this by hand with a tig welder and a Bridgeport mill
@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerez3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a guy make a replica of the statue of liberty im sure given enough time it can be done.
@bigspin692 жыл бұрын
not even want to imagine that :-))
@descent82752 жыл бұрын
Imagine grabbing a Hot glue gun and speed-Printing a benchy by Hand
@jggraphx3 жыл бұрын
I need it!! I just have to figure out how to hide it from my wife🤔🤫
@ndcollins3 жыл бұрын
Second house?
@jggraphx3 жыл бұрын
@@ndcollins Great idea!! BUT! then I have to figure out how to hide the second house from her 🤦♂️. Maybe I hide it at your house so we can share it 😎👍
@ndcollins3 жыл бұрын
@@jggraphx or get a storage unit with electrical hookups :-)
@Unknown-sz8kg2 жыл бұрын
Simp, be a man and own the house.
@brocka-lee60682 жыл бұрын
Divorce her an marry me coz I'd bloody luv a machine like that. I have a big ol lathe too I like to make all sorts from....... Only joking about divorce I am sure your good lady is gold.
@maximeg36592 жыл бұрын
what about breaking strength compared to classical manufacturing ?
@OnTheEDge20113 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!!!!
@fabriglas3 жыл бұрын
how long did it take to print and then machine? The only limit is your imajination !
@abc321meins2 жыл бұрын
Rly cool! Have you tried to make a tool change every “layer”? This way more complex geometries should be possible. But I guess “overhangs” are not possible at all, right?
@citationsloth2 жыл бұрын
Tilt the table or printhead / bit It's limited but allows significantly more control for over hangs you have to go with electrolytes solutions and alout slower
@antonwinter6303 жыл бұрын
amazing. i want one
@sed63 жыл бұрын
That is beautiful, and a fantastic proof of concept! I would think with a three-axis mil it could be made absolutely perfect. All that said something similar could be cast out of metal for a tiny fraction of the cost and time. But we as humans are heading in the right direction 👍
@patdbus3 жыл бұрын
Casting one example would probably be around the same cost, if you factor in the cost of milling a negativeand the metal price, but it realy depends on what you are welding with, and how you cast. the electric bill wont be that high for the 3d printer, only about €4 being on the high side.
@orion77412 жыл бұрын
Proof of what concept though?? We already have actaul metal 3d printers that are better in every way imaginable compared to this fancy welder on a cnc machine...
@St0ner19952 жыл бұрын
bonus points if you use the cnc mill to completely remove the print and then start again
@florpdorp71903 жыл бұрын
Going to have hell of a time scraping off the weld spatter from the bed
@user-bf6bt9vi5h2 жыл бұрын
It's a pity with objects tapering to the base this will not work. I suppose for a TOR print you should print 3 thin columns (anchors) higher than the highest point, then turn the structure over by placing the anchors in the same places and continue printing the one below the waterline. 👍
@BADHIGEEN Жыл бұрын
SUPER FREAKIN BADASS!!!
@ddaveeddd2 жыл бұрын
Wow this has potential, what if you lower the volume, or infill rather, and what if you have another axis of movement, maybe some cool stuff could be made, maybe using a robot arm, who knows, plastic needs time to cool and a fan and all that stuff and isn't a viable material in a lot of applications, but big cnc welding machines could be very useful
@russellcollins5692Ай бұрын
Can’t think what use an octopus can be used for?
@HalfLifeAMD2 жыл бұрын
Good god all those angles..thats a lot of programming. ...!
@Rafaelwarh3 жыл бұрын
Did they test the benchy boat ? i think no.
@fkingride.55003 жыл бұрын
i dont think it really needed infill but looks awsome.
@AIfpv3 жыл бұрын
the future is bright, that is if we can keep the planet alive long enough to have a future
@onepunchanimation57292 жыл бұрын
That was exactly my question… How do you get it off the print bed?! 😑😑😑
@patakiattila89702 жыл бұрын
A useful part )
@netflix65643 жыл бұрын
very nice
@supergenius182 жыл бұрын
How long did that take?
@jforrest21403 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder if this could be a serious benefit to companies...if machining an irregular part...could it be more beneficial to just weld up a boss on a $3k chunk of steel rather than buy a $4k-5k chunk of steel and mill 90 percent of it away. hmmmm...I guess ultimately it depends on the end use..dissimilar metal properties and opportunity for porosity might remove all possibility of its potential benefit unless heat treatment or coatings are done afterwards. Cool! Looks like lulzbots logo.
@mrMara5a3 жыл бұрын
If you want to do something like this and cannot weld simple parts together then you simply cast it.
@jforrest21403 жыл бұрын
@@mrMara5a true, it would make sense if you had production runs to make of the part, but for one off stuff I think the cost to design and manufacture a mold is too high. Although, with 3D printing technology anymore you are probably correct..
@lorenzolongo45243 жыл бұрын
This already exists, check out the DMG MORI lasertec 65 hybrid
@Arslan03263 жыл бұрын
What is the music in the video?
@mykmichaud3 жыл бұрын
Shut up about removing it. It's obviously made on a block of backing material. Excellent project and display of technology. Shared.
@maris224353 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@mohamedmusthaq76293 жыл бұрын
Okay. Can't it be done with a big chunk of metal and a cnc Carver at the first place? Instead for welding on a metal and carving it again?
@uSS-kc7fx2 жыл бұрын
What was your electric bill this month? Me: Yes.
@eksine4 жыл бұрын
it's for 007: Spectre
@svr123456789officiel2 жыл бұрын
Ça peux être super pour fabriquer des blocs moteurs sans moule en sable ! En faisant de la soudure puis de la cnc puis à nouveau de la soudure par dessus, le seul problème serait la gravure du dessus intérieur des pièces...
@jesusisalive32273 жыл бұрын
I had this idea a while ago, I was talking to my boy about it.
@jesusisalive32273 жыл бұрын
@MichaelKingsfordGray What?
@deadredherring3 жыл бұрын
It's cool to be able to do this, I just wonder how strong the material is after "print" and how viable it would be in practical applications.
@asdfdfggfd3 жыл бұрын
Well SpaceX 3d prints their rocket engine parts...
@DT-vl8xm3 жыл бұрын
I suppose it'd be down to the material. If it's all welded together, shit, might be a good as drop- forged
@artrock81753 жыл бұрын
It's no different than having a welder buildup metal by stacking beads before sending it to a machinist to finish the part. If the settings are dialed incorrectly (based on the material properties), having a computer do the work (vs a human welder), the quality and repeatability would be just as good (if not better) than having a master welder perform the work.
@deadredherring3 жыл бұрын
@@artrock8175 Problem is that the process might have weak points in it because of the grains of the metal and possible porosity because of the welding, even if done by a machine. I take it from my experience working in a CNC machine shop, machines are stupid and automation isn't always that good.
@artrock81753 жыл бұрын
@@deadredherring I can't argue with that! xD I personally wouldn't trust a structural part made in the way shown in the video.
@deezeemb3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. This kind of metal 3D printing makes much more sense to me than the kind you have to bake later and it shrinks.
@pierrepierrot23253 жыл бұрын
how many times to weld and machine?
@TomaszDrozdowskiPlus3 жыл бұрын
Well, as much as I would love to try it out. I must admit that the level of detail has to be improved a Lot
@thebluestig26543 жыл бұрын
That could be done with simple milling bit changes, the one he used was at least an inch wide, kinda hard to get good detail with huge bits.
@TomaszDrozdowskiPlus3 жыл бұрын
@@thebluestig2654 i know and believe me I'm not here to hate. This Is most definitely awesome. Now that I think about it one more question comes in to mind. with what kind of spatula are they going to remove this octopus from the print/mill bed ;).....nah just fooling around
@EVLS103 жыл бұрын
Not really. The key advantage of this is not needing a massive billet in order to machine your part which is a big reason that machining is so expensive. So waste is minimal in this regard. Also.. with proper forethought getting the base off would be easy. Simply need to flip over and machine it off.
@kleinfeicht3 жыл бұрын
@@EVLS10 ... the thing is wig wire and gas is extreme expensive.. so even then it might be cheaper to cut it from a block out...
@EVLS103 жыл бұрын
@@kleinfeicht you mean mig wire? And the gas wouldn't actually be a problem. In a sealed cnc you would only have to purge the oxygen and then one the entire space is filled with argon or your preferred blend then you would be fine.
@gregm92133 жыл бұрын
Cool Thought of that once could’ve used 10% infill would use less wire and weight a ton less.
@davesnothere88593 жыл бұрын
or you could print gears in place and made it articulated. this is really a start not a finished idea.
@ToplessTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Did you use gas?
@Ye_._2 жыл бұрын
Where is this
@isaaccauchi92012 жыл бұрын
Should have used some 3D Lac. Seriously Awesome.
@sinaprimus82123 жыл бұрын
and how the f*ck you gonna take the octopus off from the print plate?
@orlandolaurentiu7313 жыл бұрын
With hard work!
@ShcherbynaM3 жыл бұрын
Band-saw
@maksguzz21473 жыл бұрын
flip over and mill again... )))
@ShcherbynaM3 жыл бұрын
@@maksguzz2147 It's too easy, you need to use a file to remove excess material. :)
@jon19133 жыл бұрын
@@ShcherbynaM I worked in a lab with a metal printer and this is the correct answer. Use a band saw to remove the part then mill the build plate for reuse.
@user-kb3wd6le7z3 жыл бұрын
太·酷·了·吧 金屬質感的章魚,我想要這個酷東西
@HornWilliam2 жыл бұрын
Banana for scale next time please. Nice add-on by the way.
@ripmartin16733 жыл бұрын
They use an EDM to cut the print off the plate if anyone is wondering
@MILO201213 жыл бұрын
I'm new to 3-D printing world I need help to thing a metal 3-D printer affordable
@KnightsWithoutATable3 жыл бұрын
How is the porosity and what alloys can it print in?
@phoephoe7953 жыл бұрын
Assuming this is based off a TIG welder- no porosity (when done properly), and pretty much any alloy you can get the wire feed for.
@6miler3 жыл бұрын
How many spools of wire did you go through lol
@daviddiehl1972 жыл бұрын
But how do you get it off?
@UnwrappingByMimiKoteng3 жыл бұрын
Where did the head come from?
@vincentguttmann22313 жыл бұрын
This is just a plain old MIG gun, nothing more
@theq-13 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Ever heard of casting? 😁
@niolasschinagl94453 жыл бұрын
How do you get it off?
@getchasome62302 жыл бұрын
That's probably a quarter million dollar octopus
@justsomeguyhavingaverylong24203 жыл бұрын
Imagen trying to get it off the plate when its done printing🙃