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“Even Benchmade is flinching at that pricing.” 😂

Spyderco was like: "Well if Benchmade is getting away with it, let's try it!" Edit: Only way I'm buying a Bodacious is if they do a sprint run of M4 or something else. I know S30V is good, I just know an M4 one is probably coming.

My two favorite steals for a carry knife are still S30V and S35VN. I really don't care what anyone else says about that.

This knife is excellent, but it is becoming more and more difficult to justify the prices on the USA made knives. Especially with all the Chinese companies stepping up their game.

Inflation in cost of goods, transportation, manufacturing and the rapid rises in minimum wage are creating wage compression that has to be addressed. Also, US knife makers have very bleak sales forecasts. They aren’t going to sell anywhere near the number of units as the last 4-5 years. They are raising the prices to cover the inflationary factors and the projected downturn in total units sold. 10x Shamans @ $200 is $2000 but if you need 10% year over year sales growth to survive and you know the most you will sell is 8 Shamans then they now cost $275

Just bought a shaman at scheels in Omaha. The sticker was wrong and I got it for 185!! The guy realized it and gave me the deal anyway.

One difference I noticed is that the spine of the blade protrudes more from the scales up by the pivot when closed on the shaman, whereas on the bodacious the spine is more or less flush. That protrusion can serve as a front flipper on the shaman, which is actually my preferred deployment for the shaman.

Love it when you compare steels when you were talking about s30v and 20cv. That's the type of info that I sub for. I'm new to the game and don't know the history.

I was just thinking, as I was sitting on the porcelain throne, when is he gonna do this review? Glad there’s no work today because I wanna see it right now.

How dare you state that Benchmade would flinch at that price increase. You have no idea what they’re capable of.

After Covid19 everything goes up! Even basic necessities not just knives! What else can we do ???

The prices on the Shaman are high because Spyderco has to pay a guy full time to close each knife and document the level of mental anguish he suffered when “THE NUB” touched his finger. Which is why this fancy Nubless design should be cheaper. But it’s not because now they have to pay him workers comp due to a bad case of the Nubbin Finger. Get your facts right.

A good old fashioned battle video! I've always enjoyed these. And I agree that S30V remains a fantastic and not inexpensive steel.

I prefer the Lynch clips over the MXG clips myself. Lynch NW offers A LOT of variety and options for under $30

The Bodacious is amazing. It's a more refined Shaman. Like a sequel to the Shaman. Edit: 20cv is better than s30v and s30v has become the new d2. It's EVERYWHERE. When a company wants to use a steel that's 'high end' they use s30v judt like how brands would use D2 as an upgraded steel from 8cr. I think that's why ppl get annoyed with s30v.

Good morning metal complex. I heard that the shaman scales actually fit the Bodacious. I wondered why they made those scales so sharp too.

S30V is a great steel to be sure. Honestly I cannot think of a steel that I would feel ok paying this price for. Feels like Spyderco is hedging their bets that the Bodacious will have mass appeal. Given that plus brand loyalty, Spyderco will be able to realize sales at the price they are asking. Has nothing to do with common materials, but name brand star power to make the sales.

I've been buying folders for over 18 years and found the Bodacious handle a throwback to the old days along with a 2024 price tag ! Good review-"a good tool that costs too much."

You are 100% spot on about S30V. People love to complain without knowing what they are actually talking about.

2 years ago i got the pm2 for 154$ now its $194..no more sypdercos for me..just picked up a Kershaw Launch 20 in magnacut for 144$

Spyderco Web Page shows the Black Blade S30V Shaman is listed MSRP at $382.00 that is a stupid price

D2 gets the same bad wrap as s30v. When heat treated right, both of these steels are really good

Hogue is a much smaller maker and has plenty of s30v g10 or aluminum scaled options in the mid 100’s, and they do the axis lock the best.

Congratulations on the new weighing scale!

"I can already hear the keyboards typing" hahaha

Seeing the odd slimming and flattening of the Bodacious compared to the Shaman makes me wonder whether this is their response to the Narrows. 🤔

That ti pocket clip might make it slightly lighter than a factory shaman, but negligible.

My pm2 had the wildest lock stick for the longest time but since breaking in, even with scale swaps has the smoothest action beating out caged bearings and button locks. All it took was daily use for about a year lol

The prices they charge for S30V when it's the _only_ option when MagnaCut is less expensive is where the problem lies.

Like you I have multiple Shaman’s. I paid 185 for 2 of mine and 202 for the M4 version. My big complaint on the shaman is the piece of metal that pops up when closed on the lock and the scales being extremely slick. The blade is legit tho. I’ve used mine camping and boating doing real work and it’s been solid. All that said this knife is very expensive… for both. Won’t be getting this one. But it is nice.

S30V is my favorite steel. 52100 is a close second.

Thank you for the comparisons

In Canada, the Shaman is sitting at $349.. The Bodacious is still on Preorder at $339

All my spydercos have came perfect , perfect lockup perfect edge perfect finish , never been disappointed yet , can't say that about my microtechs and Benchmades. Getting a knife with terrible lockup and action breaks my heart , I am very picky about anything I purchase over $100 because of mistakes I have made

I like satin on the Shaman, but the black DLC Bodacious looks sweet.

After owning knives in s90v, 20cv/m390, s45vn, s35vn, k390, magnacut, and M4. I finally added a classic 940 to my collection. While I don't prefer it to say m4. I've realized that s30v still holds up. people love 20cv but hate s30v. I'd take s30v for a few dollars less. I also realized that while Benchmade overprices a lot of knives. I feel that the $200ish mark for the 940 is fair, given how well it performs and the warranty provided. I would also say that the new 940 in magnacut does not warrant an additional $50ish over the classic.

Will buy one when titanium scales come out as an aftermarket option

Your best review and I’ve watched most. Spot on! Thanks

Just got a Shaman, now I needs a Bodacious

20:36 because the blade is thinner, lighter?

I've wanted a Shaman for a while. In my head, the Shaman is a fat Para 2 and I cannot justify the price. If Spyderco cut the MSRP to $195-220, I would buy 3 of them.

I really couldn’t agree with you more about the aftermarket scale makers being able to capitalize off this vanilla set of scales and pocket clip. I will be the first in line to OG when they announce an upgrade.

And tell them.don't skip on the jimping .what's going to hurt further up on the blade. Much Mahalos

love me an old steel like CPM-10V (1978) and CPM-15V (1990), but other steels do things more to my linking than s30v. also MXG clips are the best.

I really like the overall design! Finger choils are ok, but I prefer more cutting edge for a given blade length, and with a handle design that puts my hand close to the blade without needing a choir. And while I agree that S30V is a decent steel… rated as a SS, decent edge retention, not exactly tough but ok for the average EDC uses. I guess my complaint with it in this case, in regard to price, is that Spyderco themselves offer many knives in arguably better steel choices for significantly LESS money. Even with a superior steel choice, the Bodacious would be overpriced, IMO. But it makes no sense at all to offer a knife with pedestrian materials at a premium knife price. Even in K390, Cruwear, Magnacut, S90V, etc, it would still be seriously overpriced. Lower the price by $100, for this base model, then offer it for still reasonable money with better material options, and it’ll be a winner.

Why wouldn't they contour the scales makes no sense

I watched your unboxing of the Bodacious and followed your recommendation to pick up the Manix 2. I've fallen into a Kershaw pit, and have a couple Bel Airs now and a few Iriduim. That thing is really the most satisfying per dollar spent of all I've come across.

The Shaman has a perfect line , but in my opinion a small project flaw , the portion of the blade inside the handle is too short for such a large and heavy knife and this creates lateral play, perhaps in the bodacious they have improved this aspect ?

The Bodacious is expensive, but it looks like a great knife.

I'll be picking up my Bodacious this weekend. I can't wait

I have to think long and hard these days before I purchase a spyderco or Benchmade. Im mostly focusing my time on small fixed blades, they're much better value..

9:42 🤩Ooooo I want that clip! 15:18 TY!

I agree. I just picked up in person at GPKnives a Para3/Spy27, a Manix2 LW/Rex 45, and a Manix2 Lg./Cru-Wear. Couldn't convince myself to buy the Boda. The Manix2 LW is definitely getting AWT scales because the white ones are meh. Thanks for the comparison video! Cheers!

I’m pretty sure Sal said scales for the shaman should fit the bodacious.

Agree totally. Round those edges and then it probably replaces the Shaman. The Shaman is one I will never get rid of. Hell look at how much it has increased in value😂. I can't afford to replace it now.

I got one on the way from knife joy! It was one of there monthly members deal for 180 bucks. S30v is one of my favorite steels.

I like the looks and the materials, but that price. Id get a flat g10 handled s30v manix 2 instead for $100 less. Better yet, my next purchase was and still probably is a cruwear manix 2 for less money as well. Nothing against s30v, I just wanna add a different steel to my collection.

I like it but having a shaman already the bodacious doesn’t make sense to me. I do hope they make a mini bodacious (same size as a native 5).

The Manix 2 is a better knife than both the Shaman and the Bodacious. The fact that the thumb hole is not entirely accessible is a real shortcomming of a knife that costs over $250.

The Shaman is my favorite knife of all (regardless of brand) and I have no issue with S30V (it's a great steel and I'm so old I remember when it was "the new thing" and when, working with Gerber at the time, it was a BIG deal that they were using it on all their Military issue and high-end Portland made knives) but the price is INSANE to me for both the Shaman and the Bodacious for all the actual reasons it's insane (cost of manufacturing/dimensions of materials etc). I _want_ a Bodacious, to me it seems to have some aspects of the Manix (blade stock thickness) in the Shaman-like layout/handle design and THAT is an awesome combo IMO... but Spyderco is going NUTS with these prices like so many other knife companies, seemingly just because they can and because internet hipsters drive the prices up as knives have become like purses/shoes for men. It's ridiculous. Still an awesome looking knife and if it's a variation of the Shaman I know I'd love it's shape/design (and I DO use my knives for heavy things like hunting/backpacking/rafting/Search and Rescue work etc). I'm just hoping they come to their sense on pricing and they give us a K390 variant of both the Shama and the Bodacious and hell... the Manix 2/XL while they're at it. I love K390

My issue with the steel choice is that s30v is, even in its own series, not the toughest steel. It's strange to me Spyderco only runs the Shaman, or this knife, with appropriate hard use steels very rarely.

I just bought a Sage 5 LW for $159 Canadian. I thought that was an insane deal or a mistake in listed price…. Crazy what we find to be “good deals” in 2024.

I'm a huge fan of s30v and s35vn.

I Love my Shaman’s, it is my favorite by Spyderco. Bodacious is ok i guess but for me personally it is just too much alike that maybe i don’t like it. I remember Eric saying he took some of the complaints of the Shaman which one was the choil, and changed the ergos of the scales reduced the weight some and there is bodacious… it is definitely blocky. Thanks for your vid MC

Happy Independence Day and Thanks for the review!

Spyderco, can i please get either a fixed Cru-carta Shaman, or a backlock FRN Shaman,... for somewhere under 200?

Picked up the manix 2 crucarta a couple weeks ago for 144 bucks at GP knives pretty good deal i thought. Alot of these prices are absolutely ridiculous to me.

Crazy how Microtech is the big American company with the reasonable prices nowadays.

I have the dialex Jr with compression lock. It's about a decade old and the lock stick fades in and out.

Absolutely loving my manix 2 in Rex 45 for the price it cost it’s my first manix 2 will most likely be replacing my bugout

I’ve wanted a Shaman for a while, and I finally grabbed one on sale for $230. I figured the price was only going to get worse.

Spyderco has lost their ever loving mind for years now. So glad other companies are releasing budget blades with thumb holes.

Couldn’t agree with every single word you’ve said. Shaman is the one for me.

I like them both but I can’t decide which one to get, I’m kinda leaning towards the shaman

I believe that the Shaman scales will fit on the Bodacious

Bodacious 2 contoured sprint run coming to (insert knife store here) next year. It's all marketing. What about AWT scales. They have quite the selection of aftermarket Spyderco scales. Thank you! Oh!, We need more aluminum aftermarket options. Thoughts?

I bought a Bodacious after having in Hand I took it back and exchange it for a shaman ..Much Happier😀

In college I remember getting 10 McDonald burgers for a dollar. Bought a hundred for the dorm. $165 in 2018 is now $206. So enough with the 165, use 206 as your inflation adjusted dollars.

I've never even considered a Shaman, the price has never made sense in the slightest. It won't be any different for the Bodacious. It doesn't even make sense within their own product line. The Manix 2 is absolutely right alongside these knives in terms of build quality and design and magically costs a full 100 USD less with the exact same S30V and G10 with liners.

Well, can you front flip it just like the shaman? Seems harder now. 😂

“Left handed people can overpay too! “If your ambidextrous then get two and get a loan!

Reminds me of the Lum Chinese

I have 2 Shamans, both I’ve customized to my liking. I’m trying my best to justify getting a BODACIOUS…still can’t do it.

I love S30V. My kubey drake nest has it with titanium pocket clip for $100. I will get a spydeco manix 2 at some point though.

Really love my shaman my most favorite spyderco

Spyderco Carribean in LC200N is way mo betta for $220

Just get a set of shaman scales and put them on the bodacious. They will fit

My thing about the S30v is it is a fantastic steel and isn't cheap no particle steel is and I'm fairly certain it is more expensive to use than S35vn BUT there are decidedly more premium steels available at much lower prices within Spyderco's lineup and I don't really understand what they think this is bringing to the table to make it worth so much more than their other models Also I Don know why they didn't do the chamfering they did on the Shaman I'm sure aftermarket scales will have that but I think if they did that it would rival the ergos of the Shaman due to the more neutral shape

crucible introduced 20CV into the knife market in the early 2000s but the original patent for Bohler M390 is actually from 1989. So the steel is even older than that 😂 Also, I am someone who prefers flat scales, they carry slimmer and feel normal to me. The shaman feels weird to me in a way I can't explain. And my dog stopped chewing on his bone and gave me a really weird look when you started singing 😂😂

One knife is ugly, and one knife is slightly less ugly.

Yeah… people give crap to s30v steel. It’s one of the best ever.if you’re good at sharpening it’s better then s35vn. Like you said s45vn is only better in corrosion resistance. Personally I don’t need a salt knife.

Is the spacing for the backspacer on both the same?

I really like the overall profile of the Bodacious. Same blade shape as the shaman but thinner. Shame it's laughably overpriced

S30v is good. I just can't pay that much for something with such basic scales.

Thanks MC! Does anyone know why Spyderco doesn’t include any sharpening choils? I am not a good sharpener, so that aspect keeps me away… TIA!

You're killing me dude, shaw-man not shay-man 😂, nice review buddy!

I will wait for a salt version with Magnacut that might justify the price

I think the price issue is extra frustrating because we HAD good pricing and spiderco was obv making good money, then almost double the original price doesn’t justify the increase in cost of labor. Clearly quite greedy.