Even though they aren't James's riffs, he Hetfields the riffs to make them better 😎

Forgot important things! More than 80 percent of their music is plagiarism!

My friends of misery no Wolf and Man 😊..

@@DmitryLevin the good stuff, anyway!

@@AtacamaHumanoid Metallica are thieves who stole materials from little-known bands! And the level of musicians is very low and sometimes shameful! I don't understand the people who worship them at all, is this a religion or something? Do you have your own head at all?

But his riffs didn't make them big

​@@truthhurts79Really? Without Dave's music they wouldn't have had enough material for neither of their first two albums

​@truthhurts79 wow that's a stupid comment

@@tubisi Not my point. In order to be in the position to record those albums, they first had to to the previous ones. AND, for that to happen, they needed Dave's material. Both KEA and RTL would be EP length without the stuff he contributed to, and Megaforce wouldn't have that. Heck, they complained about RTL having only 7 tracks despite being 43+ minutes long, hence Escape!

@@tubisiTFA was Dave’s and it’s one of their most popular early songs

I know some of my favorite riffs are written by Kirk

Interestingly the Sandman riff was sub par untill Lars rearranged it. They show how it was written in the Howard Stern interview.

@@xwhite2020it’s still sub par, just like most everything after the first 4 albums.

@@FleshOnGear Well that's just your opinion man.

@@FleshOnGearthe black album is amazing and I’d take it over kill ‘em all any day all day.

Hell yeah! That Damage Inc riff is my all time favourite Metallica riff.

@@nessy9022 One of my fav Metallica riff ever too, it makes me feel the thrash so hard, it rivals some Slayer riffs (which is a huge compliment, as I'm a much bigger Slayer fan).

@@severed111 I'm more partial to Slayer too 🤘

@@severed111 slayers just overhyped They only had couple of hit songs

@itsu8643 Their point was not to have "hit songs". Yes, a lot of posers come and go, that goes in for every band, I doubt you listened to every album/song. There's a hidden "hit" that could have played on radio on Show No Mercy, Crionics, it hits on everything that was hot shit in 1983, very Maiden-esque. I'm a big fan of other bands too, Metallica is more mid than Slayer due to all of their terrible albums (Load, Reload, St-Anger, Lulu), still, their first 4 are still in that first 30 albums on that 150 best thrash albums of all time list that goes around on the net and I don't dispute it, I just get tired of listening to Metallica, even MoP and Justice, too much repetition in too long songs. But I still give respect, which you do not, which means you probably weren't born when Diabolus in Musica was released...

be in 2 bands? you're crazy?

Alternate Dave would be sportin a goatee.

And one where Les Claypool's audition goes well in 86

Oh and don felder never gets fired from the eagles !

​@@artxv524 Gary Holt of Exodus was in Slayer for a while at the same time. It's not unreasonable, and both bands put out some absolute headbangers with Holt. I could see a similar situation with Mustaine in some alternate timeline

blackened is such a good song! when i was in elementary school i used to play street hockey at the local playground with a bunch of high school kids and that was my introduction to metallica, ...and justice for all over and over and over. and being the youngest kid there, my job was to flip the cassette over every time a side ended.

@@user-yn1sf9mq3z According to Jason, he was kinda pushed away from contributing much, which is a shame I guess. Maybe it was to avoid having him credited on a lot of stuff??? who knows, but his bass was mastered low on AJFA.

I heard Jason played those riffs for James and James told him they sound like an album opener. Well he was right!

Y’all notice that it’s the “and Justice for jason” version? The bass actually exists.

Damn... you gotta be second generation Metallica fan if you think AJFA is better than the first 3 albums 😂

Arguably set a certain tone that was a big influence of the Metallica sound. Love Dave’s asthetic.

@@phadrus Yep, for the worlds most successful metal band. I like 80's Metallica a lot, but i were always a bigger fan of Megadeth.

​@phadrusAlthoygh James and Lars already had Metallicas sound before Dave, and Kirk was doing similar things in Exodus at the same time. All these guys were creating similar musical movement at the same time

Dave claims more riffs than what has been officially confirmed. He alludes that he wrote "big chunks" of both RTL and MOP. We'll probably never know. 🤷‍♂️

@@dee-taylor The only one he's ever claimed that he hasn't got credit is 1 riff in leper Messiah which Metallica denies. Apart from that he's never claimed anything he didn't get credit for.

I don‘t think it‘s Kirk‘s Riff. There is no credit for him on Battery…

It is his riff thats like saying lars isnt credited on the songs even though he wrote the drum parts​@@holgerritzenthaler4405

​@@holgerritzenthaler4405 they do not credit to kirk because its part of guitar solo.

This for posting this!

I never knew Dave had riffs on RTL either lol

@stevenscott same here. Since early 87. I guess you unfortunately didn’t buy the same magazines as I did cause I knew who wrote a few of these earlier classics. For example, I always knew Newsted wrote that MONSTER riff in Blackened. Always loved that. And I always remember Hetfield saying Cliff wrote the main riff and intro for ‘To Live is to Die’. Cheers!

@@Purpleskyshorizonthanks for that. I was 11 when I first heard Master of Puppets in 87. That’s the album that got me into real metal (listened to hair bands like Skid Row, Warrant, and Bon Jovi previous to that). You’re right about the magazines: I never really read any back then. When I started learning guitar at 15, I bought and read Guitar World because it always had sheet music and tabs of songs of different bands in the back. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

This for posting this!

I remember when trying to learn that song. Thinking to myself, "Who the hell could even come up with something like this?!" Then I learned.

All he came up with was a generic chord progression.

@@captainjefferies9047generic? it’s amazing. you don’t need to diminish his achievements because you don’t like him

@@Samford_ That isn't what happened. It's literally a generic chord progression. You can find it in dozens of other songs. Metallica only gave him a writing credit because they are generous.

@@captainjefferies9047 maybe its in dozens of other songs because he pioneered it and those took inspiration from it..

While they still would've likely gone in the various directions they went, Cliff would've made them all sound a lot better. AFJA especially.

He would have probably quit. As soon as Bob Rock got involved.

​@@deathmetalchili6902maybe Bob Rock wouldn't have gotten involved

@emerealm3779 that's also quite possible. I just couldn't see Cliff being cool with the whole Corperate Music Schill of Bob Rock's approach to making music a product. He'd probably tell them all to "F@ck off....if he's in, I'm out" Hahaha But I could be totally wrong.

@@deathmetalchili6902 I feel as if they'd choose cliff over Bob rock

I agree!!Jason was to good to be threaten like this..

He does, he gets credit for all of them.

​@@TheLotusMachineI think he means the credit from the fans and the music community in general, he's kinda underappreciated.

It's probably because James was the most consisten of them in the studio, as far as double and quadruple tracking goes, so people just assumed that he wrote them all, even though we all know now that that wasn't the case.@@empty_set_

@@TheLotusMachineexactly, he is credited in every song in the video. Guy must think he deserves a statue or something, but in terms of conceptual and intelectual property, he is properly credited.

Kirk doesn't get nearly enough hate for his all other riffs and solos.

i believe Exodus use this riff or a very similar riff in one of their songs

​@@goodini026just saw a clinic where Gary Holt said Kirk stole it haha

@gentelmanjunkie542 I mean Exodus was Kirk's band so...did he really steal it? Lol

​@@gentelmanjunkie542Didn't say he stole it as it's Kirk's riff he was annoyed as exodus were going to use it but Kirk took it to Metallica. Kirk also says riffs not he first Exodus album were his and he didn't get credit but just left it

The most underrated Metallica song

Равно, как и Джейсон Ньюстед. 😏

​@@user-rc8uo3rn7cбратан, можешь порекомендовать русские метал-группы?

He loved that stuff. Thin Lizzy was an influence from what I understand.

@@SaintKines in addition to Thin Lizzy, Cliff listened to everything from punk to classical to 60s rock, ZZ Top, Rush, Motörhead, Sabbath, Misfits, R.E.M., and God knows what else. That’s what made him so unique.

Yes but not only that James Hetfield said quote He was king 🤴 of that he always had different lots of ideas that were layered because it had its own character because it was bass guitar and he was genius of harmonies and layered not your typical rockstar but he’d would push it a extra little something and that was so unique about him and I’m surprised he didn’t choose guitar 🎸 because he only chose the bass guitar 🎸 when he’s about thirteen years young in 1975 after playing his piano 🎹

@@user-uz1si3fu1i I saw another clip where Mustaine said that Cliff pretty much taught the whole band about melody, song structure and how a rhythm section works. The best thing they ever did was draft Cliff into that band.

@@SaintKines It's insane how much talent was in that band at some point - James, Cliff, Mustaine and Lars back he really played drums well still. Lars also gets way to little credit for all the behind-the-scenes stuff, deals, negotiations, networking and stuff like getting Rasmussen to produce RTL and MOP.

Intro, main riff, verse, chorus and first bridge were hetfield which are the parts that make or break that song

@@theproletariat8723 posers = intro, main riff Gigachads = post-solo riff

@@ManowarMasinospit 🗣️ 🔥

@@ManowarMasinothis guy knows

@@pipocadocs5994 and im not even that huge Metallica fan lol

And Dave made them millions...

😂😂😂😂😂​@@gennaro4941

@@gennaro4941he didn’t

I always wonder just how bad of an addict some of these guys are when a group of addicts say "whoa, this is too much, you've gotta go"

​@@GrayFox_74 Without his riffs they wouldn't have been able to make their first two albums.

Part can be found on James' riff tapes though so i doubt it and also Kirk isnt credited songwriter, but it definitely wasnt written by Cliff

@@stimit46 yeah, makes sense. I might have confused this with the intro of fight fire...

Peak Metallica songwriting is justice which hetfield largely wrote so no

@@kylehoulihan3875 no peak metallica songwriting is whenever cliff was in the band. since he was gone the band only got more and more criticism and strayed further from their thrash roots

A lot of their riffs were written by other bands KZfaq Ride the plagiarism

@@Mango-cp1im justice has their best songwriting it’s a fact. Also cliff wasn’t the reason they were a thrash band and they would’ve 100% steered away anyways. Also who gives a shit about criticism they put out great records after his death

@@kylehoulihan3875 Almost every song on Justice is far longer than it should be. The songwriting on AJFA is bloated and boring.

He is so much better than the current bass player

Jason has millions dollars now because of Metallica and his bass was muted... Poor Jason

​@@Admiral_Kekdog it's not being a better player or anything, it's about towing Lars line. That's why he got the job. He's not going to rock the boat.

​@@oliv9632 I'm sure his piles of money he sleeps on console him enough Also, he still saw many flashed boobies on your, so there is that

Why would Mustaine be mad for receiving royalties for Ride the Lightning sales without actually playing on it?

6 songs. That's all.

jason added just one note to it no wonder they cut him out of the mix killer riff though jason! listen to pre justice bass lines and compare them to post justice, such a big difference sadly they buried cliff in the mix on the albums

@@garfieldfan3892Okay. Sober up.

he was the prog master mind of the metal underground, the things he did within the underground metal scene was wild, he put so much work into those first 3 metallica albums

Some of his acoustic stuff sounds medieval in nature

Клифф увлекался благодаря отцу и брату совершенно разными жанрами, блюзом классикой, вроде даже джазом, с помощью такого разного музыкального вкуса он и смошг делает такие необычные риффы

@@joesmith9216mind blowing he was only 24 when he died

I have revisited Load and Re-Load. They are much better than what I remembered. I get so caught up in the first 5 albums and Garage sometimes that I fail to listen to their other stuff. Still can’t get on board with St. Anger.

Great. Thanks for weighing in. I'm sure they'll realize now all their years in the business are validated with you being impressed.

Next time I see the "Dave wrote em all" meme I am linking to this video

Agreed.

James always says how much he loves that song when they play it. One of Kirk's most underrated solos IMO as well

It’s part of the big four, along with outlaw torn, fixxxer and imorata 😊

Best song on the album

​@@stevenesbitt3528 big 5, don't forget Low Man's Lyric

Maybe they're not here since he wrote them in the drums lol

​​@@ingongo25 Well he got credits for Ride the Lighting intro so he can get mentioned in One

he wrote the drum parts and riffs were written by james Hetfield based on the drums

@@saulmorris9639 It's documented that Lars wrote the Justice riff and sang it and showed it to Hetfield on the drums. Lars does a lot of the riff writing.

yeah he also said on the masterclass video that he wrote the One riff so idk why he shouldnt be credited

Nah man.

I agree, by far the best riff on the album.

Real ones know that’s the best riff on the album - jk everyone has their own opinion but I knew it was the best the second I heard it.

That’s my fav riff too. Only one I had even a little interest in learning. Good for Kirk to bad the solos are as boring as the rest of the album.

Most fun riff on the album to play too. Love it. No idea Kirk wrote it.

His riffs are all great, his solos on 72 however…

@@phadrus i kinda liked darkness had a son solo. Not the best and its kinda ripetitive, but i liked it.

The fact with Dave is that he wrote mediocre riffs for Metallica. Not only because it was the beginning for him, but there wasn't much space since Mustaine's style is Megadeth and not Midtallica. And of course he had limitations between song writing since there was two masterminds in the band, him and Hetfield. So Mustaine gave the best results of his capabilities only once he formed Megadeth.

A lot of their riffs were written by other bands KZfaq Ride the plagiarism

BS

Amazing that you found any of Metallica’s work even remotely interesting in the 90’s when they started their dad rock phase

Yeah Dave is quite a proficient player

I liked Megadeth only because I loved thrash metal, but I listen Metallica till now, but Megadeth was always boring to me.

dave is the legend

​@@evgenysemenov6051 That's an interesting perspective. Megadeth's sophomore album is heavily infused with jazz and if you listen to isolated tracks for any given instrument on that album, you will notice how creative some riffs actually are. Pair that with the incredible Gar Samuelson on the drum kit and you could surely appreciate the complexity of packing a lot of content in just a single song!

​@@evgenysemenov6051you dont need to mention you like something without thrashing another band yk

Btw I this video, bass is heard easily 🎉🎉🎉

Kirk! Dave Mustaine wrote most of RTL Riffs, get your facts straight! Kirk just played Mustains parts!!!

​@@michaelmccutchen7278 💀???

@@michaelmccutchen7278LMAO calm down

​​@@michaelmccutchen7278 Mustaine's riffs were only used on one or two tracks. Best one, Creeping Death, sounds nothing like Megadeth.

thin lizzy was before judas priest?

@@user-yn1sf9mq3z same year but thin Lizzy was harmonizing the first album

Its actually pretty funky. Both bands got their start in '69, but Lizzy had 3 albums recorded and released before Priest had one. Coincidentally, they each added a second guitarist in '74, for Priest's debut (Rocka Rolla) and Lizzy's fourth (Nightlife). Im racking my cobwebbed brain for Lizzy songs on the eponymous debut, Shades, or Vagabonds that used harmonies when only Eric Bell was playing guitars and nothing is coming to mind in thay phase before Gorham and Robertson joined when Bell left. Lizzy had far earlier prominent positions in the public consciousness, though, as they had a hit single (their rendition of "Whiskey in the Jar", to make an appropriate reference in the context of this video...) before Priest ever had anything in the can, and certainly had harmonized guitar *hits* before Priest was a known quantity for much of the world. I mean, _Jailbreak_ came out the same year as _Sad Wings of Destiny_ and while "Victim of Changes" fucking rules, it had none of the cultural cachet of "The Boys Are Back in Town" (still doesnt, I'd hazard a guess). Realistically, the actual approach was plenty established before either of them, just not as a *persistent* technique for an act or a core element of any act's sound.

@@FangsFirst their debut album even had harmonies and their first hit whiskey in the jar released in 72 also had harmonies

As well as Lizzy, a lot came from his love of classical music, the damage inc intro was inspired by Bach

One of my fav all time Metallica moments

When that riff hits for the first time just on its own in that song you know shit is about to go down

underrated

Creeping Death stuff is the best

Not true, and not true

​@@unknownkingdom It is true. It's taken directly from the song "Andy Warhol". Hammett himself tells the story in an interview.

​@@FarukAhmet it's funny reading a lot of classic bands casually describing plagiarism, my fav is Deep Purple members attitude to ripping off this or that.

@@unknownkingdom its true, do your research before being wrong

Huh really? Interesting. That's by far the best part of the song imo lol. Gonna have to listen to that Bowie one now

He contributed very little... hetfield will always be the mastermind of Metallica

Jason only wrote 1 riff on the album

Yeah the best one 😹​@@imagereflection4826

The ending sucks though

Yeah yeah

which demo? I wanna listen to it

​@spinettagede777 it's called, Die by his Hands.

But they did replace him. No dis on Cliff, but Jason was a far better fit for Metallica. They didn't know they literally struck gold with Jason in the band. Jason was a bigger force live, and did contribute so much more to the band

@@davidwagstaff47 Not really, Cliff taught the band so much about music which affects their songwriting to this day. Jason was a good live player, but he barely contributed to their actual music. His biggest contribution was the blackened riff, but other than he barely actually wrote anything. If you compare him to cliff or rob you find that he didn't contribute nearly as much on any of the albums he was in. This really isn't his fault, he wasn't given the opportunity to contribute as much, but it's still true.

I think it has more to do with his class and not letting James slip into a country trucker like he did in 90s than actually writing stuff. You know, the band just did more respectable stuff before Load/Reload and St. Anger.

He didn't

He wrote the chord sequence at the start which he later used for Hangar 18.

I mean, you just conveniently forgot about Diamond Head. Not saying you did it on purpose, but still, man...

Motor breath is more thrash,and no songs on kta is faster than fight fire with fire

It's also the worst riff in metaliicas catalogue. It's like what a child would play when they pick up their dads guitar for the first time

V8 inventó el thrash metal

​@@aguaraguazu8461no digas pelotudeces esos ni en su mejor día llegaron a ser inspiración para el thrash 🤣🤣🤣

Neither me cuz I don't like Exodus, Testament and those all "true"(boring) thrash-metal bands.

​@@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano i really think you could give testament another chance. If you don't like their thrash sounds, you can try starting with their 90s albums, much more towards death/groove metal

@@coldgutoNew Order is phenomenal

@@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano ?? Testament smokes these guys what are you on Abt 💀

I hate how much Mustaine focuses on technicality over catchiness.

@@ripperplaysclon152 I don’t think we’re listening to the same Megadeth.

@@diabeticmonkey maybe he listened megadeth from wish

@@ripperplaysclon152 he has a lot of catchy riffs you just don't know it

​@@ripperplaysclon152bro, I could hum to you almost full holy wars punishment due, that's how catchy it is

not confirmed

Probably, it's Hetfield riff

Also the song title Leper Messiah was lifted from a David Bowie song too

I dont think he did that was James.

That’s a bit of an exaggeration lol

I mean a lot of these riffs are repeated multiple times in a song so it's definitely more than 14 minutes hahaha, but the point still stands that like 80% of riffs are from James

Huge mistake. They are putting just some fragments of the riff, so it does not add up to 12 hours.

@@Fixin_good that's the point I'm trying to say, my bad I have exaggerated a little...

@@cypi6210More than a bit. It’s a fucking giant turd of a take.

It's true, the riff that you mentioned was written (probably by Lars) in the early days but on "To Live..." that's the breakdown/bridge, not the main riff. According to James the main heavy riff (the one shown in this video) was written by Cliff during the sessions for MoP and left unused.