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please please do a video Samnite (gladiator type) i am absolutely fascinated with gladiators and real history

please please do a video Samnite (gladiator type) i am absolutely fascinated with gladiators and real history

Can you do a piece on the life of a average slave in Rome vs Athens/Thebes/Corinth (your choice) (If the differences are measurable that is) Thanks Metatronyt

please please do a video Samnite (gladiator type) i am absolutely fascinated with gladiators and real history

Better disguise yourself as a boys

Just like Bill and Ted. Philosophise with him dude😂😂😂

most excellent

He would've just asked you a bunch of counter-questions.

Tiktok it or it never happened

They will probably conclude that there was an obvious propagandistic agenda portraying the past as such.

It's a cycle that has existed for a while, every future generation likes to believe they have become greater than the last and will look down on the past.

Articles are about the worst source of information about us lmao.

More like "People from 2000's didn't wash their hands, and there even were medical campaigns to teach people that hygiene is an important thing, as evident by the great 2019 virus plague." Because people never seem to understand the past and are prone to believe the craziest things about it.

Historian method changed many times in the past. At the beginning, until 1700, they only read annals and chronicles, which were written almost every time in cities, so they completely underestimated what happened outside. Then archaeology come and changed everything, then genomics, statistics, applied economics, and so on. So history you had at school still says middle age was a terrible age, while the amount of skeletons from this age, with evidence of starving, are much less than the ones in the roman period, which is seen as a golden age. The myth of the horrible, dark Middle Ages comes from enlightenment, to prove that without enlightenment nothing can be achieved. Such historian can't explain renaissance, which they kind of ignore or diminish, because of ideology. To add more disaster, in many high schools the teacher of history is never a historian, more commonly is history and philosophy (they believe ideas make history) or worst, teachers of literature, which is even worse, since they take for good whatever a romance says. For example, this is why in the UK people thinks that Romeo and Juliet story was plausible in Italy.Shakespeare took inspiration from several Italian sources, and added many things which were not true, neither plausible. Cappelletti (not Capuleti) were not a Verona's family, and since Cappelletti were guelph, while Montecchi were against, this would have been the political reason, not the blood. If the problem was only blood, more likely they would have been ally, meaning Romeo and Juliet were more likely to get FORCED to marry, to bind the two families. (If only Cappelletti were living in Verona, I mean). Of course, if you are into English literature, you think this is pure history, while the whole story was circulating (quite different thou) during Dante's time. Why? Because this is what a literature teacher is supposed to do. So, pop history is mostly the result of bad teachers, and obsolete research methods.

The fact you understood him shows that Ancient Greeks were americans!!!!!!

tbf, I don't think the ancient Greeks could stand him either, considering how it all turned out

@@helvete_ingres4717 It was less that he was an enemy of the people and more that he was an enemy of the _wrong_ people who had political power. Athens was not a state free of corruption.

Also Socrates totally wanted to die. He was given an easy out during his trial but instead he intentionally sabotaged his defence so that he would go down in history as the philosopher killed for his beliefs. He did it for his legacy and that's why we remember him and not all the other philosophers of the same time.

This made me think of Bill and Ted

If you grow up in those circumstances then you're used to it, just like being born 2000+ years ago or today. You have to appreciate the simplicity of the past compared with today, at least I do. People talk about these phones, medicines, quality of life features and what not - I could honestly live without any of those, there are people even to this day that live like that depending on where in the world they are located. I'm not talking about some rich person in their 60's building a cabin in the woods. After all we're all here today because our ancestors did just fine with what they had. I'm sure people born 500-1000 years from now will look back at our time and laugh at how ridiculous we were.

Ακριβώς έτσι φίλε. Το τυπάκι κάνει γαμάτα βίντεο.

Μολις διαβασα τον τιτλο εφαγα φρικη, κυριως γιατι ηταν σε βιντεακι του Μετατρον! Μεχρι το τελος του βιντεο γελαγα. Να ναι καλα το παλικαρι, μακαρι οι καθηγητες στο σχολειο να ειχαν το παθος του.

Χρόνια τώρα από τα αγαπημένα κανάλια ο Metatron!

The fact that you might br Greek says nothing to me. These are all anti-Greek nonsences no place in human history was ever perfect. You all can go back to medieval period and before you knew it you would end up blind,tortured and then dead. Perhaps that period suits you all.

Παμε ομαδα metatron!

Jesus Christ you picked an incredibly dangerous period to enlist. 50 pounds...oh man. What is the minimum expected equipment weight when deployed in combat and for how long (in miles) is it expected of you to carry that?

Even Greece during the Ottoman occupation would be interesting.

Some people can't sleep at night because they are up concerned and confused that some people don't want to be sheltered and pampered all the time, and would rather face risks and challenges once in a while. Thinking it is any of their business how other people want to live.

Good thing you're enthusiastic, because your vulnerability to diseases 2.5K years removed from what our immune systems are equipped to deal with would most certainly mean you're not coming back from that, so enjoy your stay for however long it manages to last.

NIKA!

@@leonardomarquesbellini If you are a descendent of people who lived through those plagues, you will have inherited their immune system adaptations. 2500 years is not very much time when speaking about evolutionary adaptations.

As long as you don't stand between him and the sunlight.

@@fransbuijs808 or downwind when he tosses a featherless chicken at you.

@@peterwindhorst5775 Or in front of him when he's choking his "featherless chicken" in the public marketplace.

Not when he starts jacking off in public

This is why movies and fantasy is nice. You would probably not tolerate to stand near him, cause he would most likely be stinking. Include smells in your fantasies and you will see most of the times, we are fantacising too romantically :D

Ahaha, yes exactly. So many people have no clue. Personally I like to bring up everything I know about tribal warfare.

@@nelus7276 I mean you can be affected by a movie like The Passion of Christ about the hedonistic nature of men and still be aware that historically men have created misery for other men and women for as long as humans have existed.

@@sarahalderman3126 women also did awful and inhumane things so let's not typecast our comments.

@@sarahalderman3126 The women deserved it! Have you even lived with a woman before? They are unbearable! LOL

Unlike political science, political engineering actually exists. Your friend is clueless by design.

Well. Armor isn't as heavy once worn if properly trained. Your body develops muscle and also you get used to the changes in balance.

Depends on the armor. Linothorax was probably lighter than bronze cuirasses, and both were lighter than Mycenean armor.

That was the result of rowing for months to get to the battle

They found a big ass rock that they dated back to during Ancient Greek times that a guy carved into it which said "(Greek name) lifted this rock with one hand above head " and it was about 200 pounds. So even back then there were ppl that were athletic as fuck.

@@theamericandream5917 - Or had really good press. He likely used two hands to get it high enough so he could use one to lift it over his head. Unless two buddies hefted it for him.

Heart disease and diabetes are caused by the modern diet (seed oils and sugar respectively). If you went back in time, your health would improve dramatically in that respect. Knowing about germ theory and thus basic sanitation, you would have a major leg up. tbh I would consider it.

Brains are shrinking... In a couple of generations they won't be able to use even smartphones. Idiocracy would look like a Renaissence University in comparison.

@@grugnotice7746 >muh sneed oils!

@@grugnotice7746 Both existed well before modern diets, you can say they are largely caused by a modern diet, but saying they didn't exist before is just being stupid.

@@ne0nmancer While these things did exist well before the modern age, they weren't used as heavily in the distant past as they are now.

Most working class people had limited rights, and women in Athens had no rights at all. Sparta was a standout in that regard.

I've never heard anyone say regular Greeks were sophisticated/educated/et cetera, especially atheist. Sounds made up.

@@bigguy7353 Well, greece does have an image of being very smart and sophisticated but I don't know where the atheist part is coming from

@@blacktigerpaw1 Plus the draconic and abusive warrior training which includes encouraged theft and sanctioned murder of a slave (well if you didn't get caught)

@@gilgameshkingofheroes5903 must be from Epicuereus tetrapharmakón "against the fear of divine punishment" Apathy was """tolerated""" but open denial or disregard of religion could be a death sentence Socrates was accused also of preaching disregard for the gods of the polis

its true. the modern us infantryman has to carry WAY more weight than is practical to suit the bloated tech/gear “requirements” of the modern day. ive carried rucksacks in excess of 70 pounds regularly, not to mention the weight of my worn apparel.

@@MrDeadlysirius I remember watching that video of an M240B gunner showing his daily load plus rucksack over doubled his body weight. Ouch…

@@MrDeadlysirius Well the advantage of carrying all that gear is that you don't need to run as far as you'll have better tools or better teamwork. The future is moving towards ai terminator or aliens exoskeleton, where the soldier basically is a tank/mech, as a soldier/player can now carry even more weight like when you play an RPG and carry a ton of weapons that a normal human couldn't so that you'll have a tool for every occasion or ping your position and your opponents so the RTS command and conquer/xcom commander can reduce the risks and manipulate the opponent without worrying about dying. It's basically the gamification of warfare, where you can literally be an "armchair general" or mini tank.

@@MrDeadlysirius I read one history of the Falkland's War stating that the Brits (including Ghurkas) each carried well over 100 pounds of gear, rations and weapons.

I carried 90-110lbs O crap in 89 in the Corps, that was average, I weighed 165-170…. Then lol

I appreciate it. He doesn't say "educate yourself". He educates us.

All this effort to debunk an article probably made by an AI

Secretly, he loves it. :)

I empathize with his frustration *so much!* He handles it better than I do; the "filthy middle ages" fallacy ( at like, only 1:16 into the vid) would have sent me pacing and flailing my arms, clutching at my forehead, and beseeching the heavens for divine strength, or wisdom, or retribution, or something, anything! I get enough of that on a daily basis as it is, dealing with adults who seem unable to comprehend even the simplest concepts. Like "when it rains, things get wet" (exaggerated for humourous effect, but not by much). I can't envision a world where I would willingly subject myself to such horrors. Just the thought makes me want to curl up in the fetal position

I have, so I appreciate his work.

In my opinion it was more of a reason that, Spartans come to you, you would be dumb to go to them...That changed pretty quickly though.

Basically this, Ivan. The reason is entirely geographic. Firstly, any large army mustering anywhere is not going to have a chance in hell of being "secret". Word travels fast, and you'd know if an army was coming your way. Laconia is blessed with the kind of terrain that's not so easy to invade. The Spartans would simply raise the army, (and being that every able-bodied citizen was already full-time prepped for war, this was fast), and move to one of the various choke points you'd have to travel through to reach them, cut you off and wait there. It's a bit like trying to invade an inland sea that you can only reach via rivers. Find the river they're coming from and block it. If the terrain you're trying to invade only has a few little spots from which you can actually even assemble a 8-10,000+ composition of men, (the average size of hoplite armies), there's only so many places to actually try to fight the enemy too, and they'll be ready and assembled long before you are.

@@chriskalogrias926 Not that quickly

There is a story that when the persians arrived at sparta they didn’t believe that the village they saw before them was the infamous sparta, given that it didn’t even have any walls, And thus they moved on with their campaign without sacking the city

Well most history classes mostly focus on war and battles so that’s not surprising.

@@findingbeautyinthepain8965 If not for the Art of war, World history would be 12 page comic book. They teach children not to settle their differences with threats and violence, yet the most refined successful mature adults of the world rely upon settling their differences through violence and threats

@@godetonter4764 What exactly is your point here though? Yes, psychopaths tend to climb quickly through political and financial power hierarchies, because of their lack of empathy and often narcissistic worldview that allows them to cruelly carve their way to corrupt and predatory positions whose structure has itself been built over generations by similar people. How does this delegitimize how people are taught in schools not to choose violence first and foremost? The vast majority of people aren't psychopaths, and therefore generally wish to avoid said violence, in order to protect the people around them and actually make life liveable without constant fear of violence. Is that such a hard concept to grasp? And I'd hardly call most of these individuals "refined". It's easy to surround yourself with wealth when you've stolen that wealth from the unfortunate and enslave your nation so you can eat fancy meals with equally self-absorbed individuals. I think you are confusing actual intellectual refinement with sheer hedonistic narcissism and sadistic pleasure-seeking. Mate you need a reality check, and probably a brain scan too, you might be a psychopath yourself.

@@godetonter4764 That’s so true! I remember thinking I hated history until my early 20’s because we only learned Military history in school. I remember being super interested in learning about the full truth of slavery, and all we learned was when it started, when it ended, and that it was bad, despite half my class being wealthy black girls with elite parents. (I mention the black students’ economic station, because the elites are usually catered to.) It wasn’t until I did my own research on every day people’s real lives when I realized I love history.

@@godetonter4764 That's a bit of a simpleminded Nietzschean view of things. The "most refined, successful, mature adults of the world" make a lot of effort to avoid conflict, and to mitigate its destructiveness when it does happen. Warrior cults are parasitic on civilization, and the more educated versions that some places had in history were mostly due to a lack of economic development. Smart, driven people today can get ahead in life without being malicious to others.

Yeah, they act like the average kit any human can carry and still be effective as a soldier somehow magically changes. It was proven time and time again that the average infantry soldiers carry roughly the same amount. From ancient Greece to Rome, medieval men at arms and knights, samurai, WW1, WW2, current day.

@@gusty9053 And if you under that amount today? you for sure stack some extra amunition up to that level

Modern combat load is about 70 lbs. More in cold weather. Ammo, grenades, and your extra weapon, like a mortar tube, machine gun ammo, or any shoulder fired weapon weighs a ton

@@gusty9053 Not sure what you mean, modern soldiers definitely are the greatest pack mules of any period in human history.

@@CrizzyEyeshis point is that the weights are roughly the same, and that people can only carry so much while still being able to travel long distances/be effective in combat. The only reason loads are heavier today is because of a) better weight distribution (putting all of the weight in easier to carry areas) b) vehicles (horses also can only carry so much) and c) guns and ammunition require far less movement and far less flexibility in combat

It did matter tho, slaves weren't hunted for sport everywhere.

Only spartan women....if you werent spartan but the middle class or slave you had no rights. Sparta was not 300.

@@BladeValant546 but as Frans stated, you had more rights as a woman in sparta, than in Athens middel class in sparta, who do you think build the weapons and armor for the Spartans, cause the Spartans werent working the forges, those werent spartans, but they still had rights

Sure, life for women in ancient Greece was a bit more like life for them in a modern Arabic country, i.e it wasn’t so bad. The biggest threat, as always before the age of anti-biotics, was childbirth with a mortality of something like 15%.

Democracy in Athens was managed by people who had skin in the game. Random homeless peoples who understood nothing about the political climate were not permitted a vote for good reason. Even in the modern Internet days people don't know who or what they're looking for.

This is valve type of behavior!

Well, the ones who profitted really didn't want to let it go.

@@HenshinFanatic they still don't.

Never again. Resist the next plandemic

Ditto 😂

As a Spaniard, whoever wrote this article is a malaka re.

@@edstar83 💀

@@edstar83 I have noticed that the spanish-speaking😃 people who live in Greece are the only ones who can easily learn and speak greek correctly with perfect accent as well. On the other hand, this is almost impossible when it comes to people from slavic-speaking😝 or germanic-speaking🤪 countries regardless of how many years they live here.

I'd prefer living in Achaemedid Persian Empire than whatever Greek city states had to offer.

@@SetuwoKecik Yeah... that multiculturalism worked out really well for the Achaemedid Persians... oh wait... no it didnt... Now Western Civilization is repeating their mistakes...

@@givemeanameman1 Achaemenid empire lived centuries longer than pathetic 12 years of a ethnostate country called Najis Germany though.

@@givemeanameman1 Their multiculturalism was very different : they didn't push all subjects to mix together.

@@givemeanameman1 Yikes people like you are a blight.

I thought this article was going to be about ancient Greek perversity. The Greek had so many sick practices that make Weinstein look like a boy scout

Yea, they pretty much didn't have the internet to share idea's back then. We didn't get the internet and climate change until Bob Dole invented them (sarcasm).

It's so simple to understand this though. "People in the year 2020 believed in Corona vaccines." That statement is about an actual global phenomenon. But still, some did, some didn't. Some ares had more people that did, some fewer. Or just compare like this: "Many gladiators died in the colloseum." "Many boxers, footballers and race car drivers died in those violent public spectacles of the 20th century."

@@RespectMyAuthoritaah Not Bob Dole. It is Al Gore who lays claim to those two (Falsely of course).

Lol

Don't worry. He didn't mention all the appalling stuff they did.

Warriors were bred for killing. Carthaginians slaughtered tens of thousands of Romans at Cannae with swords and spears IN A DAY. Such scale of violence would only come back with Napoleon and the first world war. And at that time, it was killing with firearms and artillery, not with one's hands.

On the other hand medicine was relatively bad compared to mdoern medicine. While nowadays quite some wounds can be healed back then it would have been a death sentence.

I mean back then they had massive battles, it's only in the middle ages when they battle sizes decreased

Actually they do try to kill each other. Especially in the route. Where the real slughter happened

@@GamingKnight0820 The ancient Greek battles weren't that big either, nowhere near the size of Roman battles for example. I don't know the casualty rates during those periods, but during the medieval period losing 5% of an army was considered taking heavy losses. We remember the battles where armies were wiped out because they were so rare.

Naturopaths still use Galen. Allopathic medicine is the odd one out.

Pretty much, yeah. Now if you got to choose your specific role in society in addition to the time and place but _had_ to go back quite a while it becomes a different story, but without that last bit you'd still be a complete moron to pick Thomas Edison over Steve Jobs let alone going for Henry VIII or Julius Caesar. Might actually be an interesting debate, how many luxuries would it take to risk random plagues, personal emergencies (good luck getting a wound sterilised let alone insulin!) and conquistadors.

Just bring penicillin and aspirin like I did.

Or does it? Of course not, it's war

Seconded.

I thought that's what we are doing when we watch Metatron videos.

My thought exactly. Observe without interaction. That way I couldn't be blamed for screwing things up! 😂

too mainstream--boooo!

@@Kinuhbud when the mainstream was that good no one cared!

Especially in combat zone. We weighed ourselves with all the gear and one guy who was 145 pounds weighed 225

My favourite subject is ancient Greece - I am studying Classical Studies - but I oddly enough I more often find myself defending the medieval period and its culture and art against those who think that the medieval world destroyed the culture and sophistication of the "Greco-Roman" world and brought no culture, refinement and sophistication of their own! Great that you re-enact two periods of history!

Indeed. The Peloponnesian War was so shockingly brutal for the Ancient Greeks as to break their paradigm of war - and by our standards, it was mild (for example, victorious Spartans haven't even thought of destroying Athens). And when Alexander the Great razed Thebes, it was criticized wildly across the entire Hellenic world, even by his supporters. Alexander himself regretted on his decision later, freeing any Theban citizen sold into slavery that he encountered and issuing them monetary recompense. His Macedonian successors later led efforts to rebuilt Thebes, with prominent Greek city-states sending artisans or funds in assistance of rebuilding.

Some truth to it but that's not the middle ages. More Elizabethian and it was more like several times a year, with wipedowns and face washing and frequent hand bathing. A bath in May and a nuptial tie in June. Medieval folks might have recoiled at that, depending on where they were from.

Now, that is a good idea for a little series of videos.

Its ok. Just tell them you identify as a man. I think theyll understand