One of my favorite stone ocean villains. I always felt kind of bad for him because he was in a pretty unfortunate situation and suffered a lot. But while Stanley Yelnats didn’t let that experience turn him bad, Donatello did and his actions eventually caught up to him

donatello's arogance is a way to know that not all minor characters are gonna be dumb guys who just follow orders and have almost 0 personality, donatello truly shows that he doesnt want to die so that pucci can just achieve his goal and forget about him, doing everything he can to try to also achieve heaven too, but that unfortunately turned for the worse for him as everything he did to keep living just gets back to him (him turning into a snail and being used by pucci)

This man couldve been the best detective

I felt like he almost behaved like a young dio, which is funny because that shows that a young pre coffin dio would never get along with pucci

I loved how Versus actually stuck around for awhile after his fight to persue heaven even if he was never going to get it. I wished more villains didn’t just disappear after their fights.

Imagine if he dug up memories of dinosaurs or anything prior to the colonization period- that would’ve made the fight even crazier.

Honestly, he s very understandable because he never had a real friend/someone to guide him on the right path. On top of that, pucci was constantly rubbing him the wrong way by basically saying "you suck" every time jolyne and hermes were doing main characters stuff There was literally no way for him to become a good person when all his life was about constantly getting beaten up both figuratively and very literally just for existing.

I like that all of Dio's children had potential to be people of great renown. Hope we see some kind of universal equivalent in Part 9.

Versus made the decision to put children in deadly danger without any hesitation because, in his mind, he wasn’t committing the worst thing that could happen to them. In his subjective mind, the far worse fate awaited Jolyne, who would have to survive and constantly reflect on the past. It doesn't remove his actual guilt, but it alleviates the subjective guilt. For Versus, the risk of instantly dying is not something exceptionally misfortunate and cruel, because he has experienced far worse events and survived, but was left mentally scarred by these circumstances. A slow feverish death and the need to live on after an abuse is much more painful than an instant death from an explosion. From his point of view, the whole situation wasn’t the worst thing that can happen to “a child". Perhaps he himself once wanted to die rather than go on living constantly haunted by his traumas. He even stated explicitly that living with certain memories (such as a feeling of guilt) is worse than death. His worldview is represented perfectly in his stand: the ability to dig up the occurrences of the past and making them affect one’s present. He is shaped by his childhood and can’t escape it, same happens to the people who come in contact with his stand. I’d go even further and say that the strength of Underworld lies on the psychological impact it has on the opponent. It almost happened to Ermes. The possibility of dying stuck in the earth’s memory is just a cherry on top if a person won’t break mentally. Do what you want with that information.

For your information: In Donatello's privilege card, Araki writes: "I really want him to be happy." Sadly it was deleted in English translation. So it's confirmed he's officially forgiven because Araki likes him. :)

I've been thinking about it and the Underworld plane fight seems to be like a microcosm of Pucci and DIO's idea of Heaven No one is panicking or screaming, just sitting calmly knowing the plane is about to crash, content with their fate. Araki could've made the memories accurate and have them be completely unaware and only start to panic when they start to crash Also someone I've talked to about this mentioned that Underworld is another name for Hell which fits pretty well with the idea of Heaven because when you think about it, knowing everything that's going to happen to you is kind of hellish and not very comforting at all like DIO and Pucci think

Donatello and Rikiel's Death's made me sad because both had a pretty bad life, Rikiel changed a grew as a person and showed his true resolve a lot like one of my favorite part 5 characters Pesci, and he tried his hardest and put everything on the line and still lost and when Hermes killed him I was saddened because he really grew on me, with Donatello the thing that made me sad was that the reason he wanted Heaven was so that he could just be happy and that crushed me.

Upon watching the anime, I noticed that the "rules" of Underworld are similar to that of Bohemian Rhapsody. Namely the events play out according to their 'story" or as they happened without any way to directly change them

The new anime adaptation is my first introduction to this villain and I felt bad for laughing at his interactions with Pucci. The other two of the sons had some modest respect from Pucci but Versus just kept getting freaking hammered with insults and I found it ridiculously funny.

Ungalo deserves love too, That and him being Josephs uncle...just realized Joseph has 4 uncles thanks to DIO

Now granted, it's been years since I read Stone Ocean, so I've forgotten a lot, but when Versus dropped the three kids onboard the plane, I audibly gasped. He is his father's son, through and through

I don’t know why Donatello wanted to achieve heaven with a Stand named Underworld

It would be cool to mention that there’s a couple songs in Underworld’s library of music that likely influenced Donatello. One called “Change the Weather” is so literal, considering Underworld LITERALLY changes Weather Report into his old self. “Sole Survivor” could also be used in the case of the plane crash Jolyne and Hermes had to survive as the song talks about being trapped at the “bottom of a mineshaft” with the clock running out. “Call Me No. 1” also seems to fit him for… self explanatory reasons lol

Giorno = Dio and Jonathan, Versus = Dio, Rikiel = Jonathan, Ungalo = Dario.

Rikiel and Donatello are Part 5 villains type due to Rikiel got Pesci's Character development and Donatello being Risotto Nero to against Main Diavolo(in Donatello case he wants to achieve Heaven by himself by betraying Pucci)

Building a bastard Sports Maxx The bastard who denied the satisfaction of staying dead

I need an investigation battle between Underworld and Moody Blues.

Fun fact: Underworld have a song called Change The Weather

Versus Versace is also a sub-brand of Versace, which was gifted from Gianni to Donatella.

Can’t wait to finally see his arc animated [Underworld] is such a fun stand

The man really yeeted some kids onto a plane underground to put stakes on Jolyne and Ermes. (But thanks to the power of "vore" it was everything ok)

Thank you for giving me my JoJo fix during this JoJo drought.

I laughed so hard that I nearly burst my appendix when he dug up Larry Czonka. It brought back memories of the MST3K version of Final Sacrifice.

Versus Versace is also a diffusion line of Versace, hence Donatello Versus is a derivative and "more affordable version" of his father. He also has a deep v-neck shirt for "Versace".

Schroder: "I LOVE underworld-- You could recreate 911 with underworld if you really wanted to! Shuckmeister: Uhhh....OKAY! Schroder: The ground remembers...

Donatello Versus...who? Who is Donatello fighting? 🤔

Meti bout to make me go fight that damn Biolizard again with that intro 😂

He's coming in few hours!

What do you think would happen If Donatello survived? Like, if Jolyne simply didn't kill him with that punch? Would he join them in the fight against Pucci? How would he have changed the C-Moon/Made in Heaven fight? I think it'd be interesting, he gave me a bit of "Hol Horse as a Crusader" vibe during the Weather Report fight, where he was driving Jolyne and Hermes. I know he'd be out for himself, and is very prideful, but I could see him wanting revenge on Pucci and a chance to achieve Heaven himself, so even if he didn't team up with them, I could see him trying to intervene on his own in that arc.

It's fittingly ironic that a guy like this was voiced by Zoro in Eyes of Heaven, I really hope he reprises the role for the anime

The one who bullied was a prisoner, not a guard. It was mistranslated, as confirmed by the anime. Also, love the part 6 content. Keep it up!

Hmmm. I finally realized All four sons of Dio were have the Life bender ability Stand. -Giorno: Giving life to the object. -Ungalo: Giving life to the Fictional characters -Rikiel: control the Creature-Rods - Donatello: re-animated 😅

I could never understand why the manga went out of its way to make parallels between Donatello and Pucci. The moment Donatello is shown is like Pucci is looking at himself in the mirror. But I always needed to understand what the point of that was. Now I think that it was to say that like Donatello Pucci felt that he was deserving of the power of Heaven, the same way Dio felt deserving of great power just because. Still, if someone did make the connection, please share. Cowabunga!

Something I noticed watching this that I don't think anyone else has pointed yet is how the people in the memories know exactly what is going to happen to them and are calm about it, even in the face of death, which is exactly the same effect as the goal of the heaven plan

crazy story idea for an alternate world: Leone Abbacchio and donatello versus as detectives, solving crimes and mysteries together

You know I sadly speedread Stone Ocean to get to Steel Ball Run 2 years ago so I completely forgot about Versus and his stand. I loved watching him in the anime and the fact that he was the most Dio-like and got his theme as well. This video made me like him even more and he is now among my fav antagonists in the series. Great job!

I wonder if Rikiels stand will be fully drawn in the anime.

In a matter of speaking, Donatello truly was dealt a completely unfair hand by fate. From start to finish, nothing ever went his way. He got a worse life than Dio. Because his father still ultimately had a chance at a second life by being adopted into the Joestar family and now had all the tools and resources to reshape his life. It's just that Dio chose to fly to close to the sun and his wings were burned off. In Donatello's case, no such second ever comes his way. Not even after he steals Jotaro's memory disc so that he could use the heaven plan for himself, dying almost immediately. And unfortunately, the Heaven plan doesn't even offer him anything sense there are no happy moments in his own life to emotionally prepare for. The best there was, was wanting to steal the Heaven plan because using it himself had the potential of getting him a better fate the next time around if Pucci doesn't get the chance. And even their he failed, due to Heavy Weather's effect he lost all of his best mobility advantages and ended up used as Pucci's shield. Because that's all Donatello was to Pucci, a meat shield. To be used, then discarded like he was worthless. What a terrible fate.

It makes perfect sense that Donatello is the Perfect Foil to Jolyne.

Jolyne had someone to pin the blame to, and when that man was attacked and proved he didn't mean bad, she acted to change her path Donatello had noone specific to blame other than the whole world, and when given the chance, he chose to take revenge

I LOVE Donatello. He has a cool stand, a cool look, and a tragic backstory that shows the unfairness of the world.

Someone once posed the idea of Donatello's story following that of holes because being under Bohemian Rhapsody's effects, which would be a fun idea

I love that your going back to talk about characters in your new video style a true successor from you it just works videos Plus I love how Donatello backstory is based off of holes it's my favorite book of all time

I just realized that Underworld's ability and the way the people within the memories KNOW THEIR FATES AND ACCEPT THEM is a mini-showcase of what Pucci's Heaven plan is for! How ironic that Versus wanted to reach what he thought Heaven was when he already had it...

Have him team-up with Abbacchio and you have one hell of a investigation duo in your hands.

Good to know that the reach of this man's power merely stretches within my hometown.

Underworld is the stand closest to The World in appearance and with a time-themed ability.

watching this after the end of the stone ocean anime was the best. another great vid meti!!

Wasn't expecting another video so soon, thanks for tour work

So everyone prediction time, do you think Armstrong's video will be a normal one or a Building a Bastard video? There's a good argument for either, but what do you think?

I’ve always found it interesting how Underworld is so similar to Moody Blues. Really makes you start to compare Versus and Abbacchio

I kinda get Jack Atlas vibes from him and I dig that

Ah yes, my favourite Stand: NETHERWORLD

“So it’s the same kind of stand as my Burning Down the House”

Underworld and Green Green Grass of Home gotta be some of my favourite stands

Every video you put out Meti is a knockout. Great content as always.

Since VerSUS can bring people back ( sorta) as well as somewhat recreate stands abilities with weather reports disc, could he bring back stand users that fight for him, and stand users who are still alive, shown when he made a 2nd pucci to steal weathers disc? So maybe-ish

I've always assumed that a hundred days off was the inspo for underworld. When I listened to the album during the arc, it clicked in very well. I'll listen to the other album though

1:03 Donatello VerSUS haha get it 2:50 oh

I thought the most important part of his design were his sideburns, where’d you get choker?!

I did not expect the Kamen Rider Sasword reference. I'm happy about it but it took me by surprise.

Wow i really love your videos meti, thank you for all your work. Part 6 is my favorite of jojo and versace is my favorite character in stone ocean, much so because of what he represents in the story. I found his arc to be super interesting and he acted as a great foil to jolyne like you said in the video, araki truly is a genius among geniuses, just to think the man did the weekly gig for the majority of his career all the while improving and reinventing himself, i get dumbfounded just thinking about it, tezuka was spot on indeed xD. Anyway keep up the awesome work, looking forward for the next video already

Wonder if Meti is gonna do a One Piece dissection or Naruto I'd love to see his opinion on certain characters

With so much that goes into him, I'm kinda of disappointed in retrospect that he wasn't fleshed out into a more major villain. I feel like another arc could've been spent on him taking the lead from Pucci and becoming even more vicious an antagonist.

his range is around S because olrando,florda is 119.1 mi²

Cant wait to see this tomorrow

i like the way his va says underworld in a similar way to how dio's va says the world

KAMEN RIDER!! AHH! I'm happy to see someone else talk about it. I've been a fan for ages and hearing that made me smile. I wouldn't mind you doing some deep dives in Kamen riders

Good to be back!

He definitely didn't need to throw that third child in the seat of the plane but honestly that's the only truly evil thing he did. Every other action taken by the character made sense from his perspective. I don't think he was much of a bastard. There are characters way more evil in stone ocean then Donatello. Donatello is honestly a great character and one I feel is underated. Not only is his stand brilliant but so is he. He is able to outsmart Jolyne and her friends on multiple occasions despite his stand being much weaker and only having just become a proper stand user that day. Compare him to dio who took months to fully control his stand. Infact he was extremely close to achieving his goal, all he would have had to do was dig up the memory of the green baby and fuse with it. He was also the only minor antagonist in stone ocean who wasn't willing to he pucci's pawn and sacrifice himself like a little bitch. The only flaw with him is that his death kinda sucks. Man deserved a better death then that.

Love the fact how his stand s reams Wryyyyy like his father

His stand should have been the world So we could say his name and stand together. Donatello Versus, The World!

Its a shame the three couldn't be redeemed.

Since he was shown in the trailer, I have a feeling Donatello might not be shadowed in the anime. Wouldn't mind if he is, tho

damn I love your videos

All of Dio's sons are like 2 sides of coins. Giorno and Rikiel are inherited Jonathan's attitude as they give respects to the villains but they can be ruthless like Dio when they want to. Versus and Ungalo inherited Dio's attitude more as they are ruthless, selfish and scumbag. Versus is like Dio 2.0, has a tough childhood life and can't catch a break on his misfortunes. So, he wants the other suffers like he is. He's like the opposite of Giorno while Giorno has a motivation to be a Gangstar to stop drugs after saving a mafia boss, Versus wants to make the other suffering like he is.

Need more stone ocean videos

wish versus was the only dio son aside from giorno, makes his character more a lot more impactful and he fits the personality of dio far more than the other 2

wow I overlooked how cool underworld is!

Please make Buliding a Bastard : Dio Brando

It's almost like an escape room stand in a way

This is so strange because I've been talking people everything you just told in this video... Its like looking on your own self from a distance.

As a Toku fan, I never realized the Stand resembles Sasword with the eyes and tubes. Nooice

To me underworld's googles look like bent spoons, which is what versus used to dig in the hospital.

Ah yes. Stanley Yelnats and his Stand Moody Blues Requiem.

Part of me thinks the glasses or eye designs for Underworld is actually like the Oakley goggles as they wrap over the head!

I was watching a short and then I heard you're voice thinking the channel used it on a short but then the screen went black

Neverworld has to be one of my favourite stands both in design and Ability

I hope you do another video on the remaining 2 brothers of donatello versus.

Am i the only one who recognized his backstory in the 29th episode was a reference to the movie “Holes” with shia lebouf😂

this character analysis is SO GOOD omg I always felt sad that Dio's sons got introduced so close to the end and got so little screentime despite being dio's literal children but watching this makes me appreciate all the thought that Araki put into the themes Versus represents + the tie-in's into stone ocean's themes overall!!

Building a Bastard: Sports Maxx when?

i think people entirely misunderstand the character of versus honestly. he’s not only probably the smartest jojo character we’ve and probably ever will see (except of kars), he got a hang of how his stand worked in less than 10 minutes and every single fight he’s in is entirely in his opponents’ favor (such as when he basically fought entirely for himself during heavy weather where it was basically a 5v1v1 against him) in comparison to dio, who took 50 days to figure out his own ability and barely master it. Versus is very quick on his feet, a lot of people overlook that. he also shows great combat competence with an ability that only works in florida. also, his past is also very much like Jolyne, heavily neglected, both arrested at 13 and both heavily being mistreated in life and having to deal with the consequences of their fathers. he also isn’t entirely just evil, he has a reason for everything he does, it kind of sucks araki writes versus as if he’s a bastard, by making ugly faces (in a typical “heroes are beautiful, villains are ugly” manner), making him seem outrageous and also just framing him like a bastard. honesty when he pushed those kids on the plane the entire point was that jolyne and Hermes we’re gonna die in the explosion while the kids would be safe because they would have the two safe seats while jolyne and hermes had to figure out a plan that would be safe and would. the way he was beaten in the under world arc was bullshit ye im a versus dickrider👺

Nice use of the Biolizard theme

Just in time for tomorrow, eh Meti?