Mewtwo's Killer Confusion Trap - Smash Ultimate

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5 жыл бұрын

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Пікірлер: 481
@Knuxsega
@Knuxsega 5 жыл бұрын
The Gimz singlehandedly pushing the general meta. You da man.
@Misimi
@Misimi 5 жыл бұрын
Nanika
@icedtea649
@icedtea649 5 жыл бұрын
It's a dirty job but...
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 5 жыл бұрын
well, along with help from his comments as seen here, but he IS spreading the word with good explanation
@JohnChonYT
@JohnChonYT 5 жыл бұрын
i like that gimr gives light to the characters that are pretty underused in the game
@TFWPLSSUB
@TFWPLSSUB 5 жыл бұрын
*cough* KIRBY *cough*
@yourboy9236
@yourboy9236 5 жыл бұрын
Haha snake is underused lmao?
@abdosamadmussa1472
@abdosamadmussa1472 5 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize that the " *CHING* " noise is just a sped up smash 64 hit sound :0
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
WTF!! You're right!
@Nwordsoup
@Nwordsoup 5 жыл бұрын
And then the last sound was the ko sound effect
@greenshark45
@greenshark45 5 жыл бұрын
What *ching* sound?
@abdosamadmussa1472
@abdosamadmussa1472 5 жыл бұрын
@@greenshark45 the sound you hear when you land a hit with the homerun bat/Jigglypuff's Rest .
@sizzle9000
@sizzle9000 5 жыл бұрын
this will come in handy for the 8 remaining mewtwo players
@powerbalancevathelastkitsu2504
@powerbalancevathelastkitsu2504 5 жыл бұрын
Make that 9
@tajiamgohda
@tajiamgohda 5 жыл бұрын
there are dozens of us, DOZENS
@powerbalancevathelastkitsu2504
@powerbalancevathelastkitsu2504 5 жыл бұрын
@@tajiamgohda we should hang out
@darnitgarnet2887
@darnitgarnet2887 5 жыл бұрын
actually i counted nine, myself included ):
@powerbalancevathelastkitsu2504
@powerbalancevathelastkitsu2504 5 жыл бұрын
@@darnitgarnet2887 you, me and who else?
@mudlums
@mudlums 5 жыл бұрын
So cool that you and your brother esam run pound!
@spindingus
@spindingus 5 жыл бұрын
Extremely underrated comment
@nixuniverse5240
@nixuniverse5240 5 жыл бұрын
A while ago i saw something on Twitter where Zelda was able to move *immediately* after fully charging her Phantom. Would you mind labbing that ? I’ve tried but I have the execution timing of a diseased goat.
@bruvaroni
@bruvaroni 5 жыл бұрын
Add in displacing phantom and it's even better
@R0salance
@R0salance 5 жыл бұрын
Phantom tech would be great to see.
@mcprince5098
@mcprince5098 5 жыл бұрын
*holy shit please no, don't let this be real, oh god oh fuck*
@JustHANO
@JustHANO 5 жыл бұрын
What? That just how it is. Once it's fully charge you can do anything. Like try buffering jump, there's no cool down to fully charge phantom.
@nixuniverse5240
@nixuniverse5240 5 жыл бұрын
JustHANO If I find it on Twitter again I’ll link it to you. You’re right, but what I’m talking about is kinda hard to explain.
@noahgreen3386
@noahgreen3386 5 жыл бұрын
mewtwo is a grappler now tell ur friends
@selensbelgiangachikoi3190
@selensbelgiangachikoi3190 4 жыл бұрын
He always has been, in Ultimate. His throws are insane.
@sefflikejeff1917
@sefflikejeff1917 4 жыл бұрын
@@selensbelgiangachikoi3190 *slightly above average
@nemisisarcher8213
@nemisisarcher8213 4 жыл бұрын
@@sefflikejeff1917 Well above average.
@Newbmann
@Newbmann 4 жыл бұрын
@@nemisisarcher8213 well above average offense Well below average defense.
@mZStarCraft
@mZStarCraft 4 жыл бұрын
Always has been.
@yoyowatupimawsome
@yoyowatupimawsome 5 жыл бұрын
Just found out Gimr's outro is the best thing ever
@___i3ambi126
@___i3ambi126 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the attention, m2 needs more. But this was discovered at least in a theoretical sense early on. The main issue is that m2 has no trouble killing, and even if he doesnt find the kill then uthrow works on most characters by 150. So the main situations this is useful is if they are likely to shield on the ground when between 140 and 150, or when shieding on a platform above 140... Not exactly crazy common stuff. Cant wait to see more content though. If you want to test something else out for m2. Close hit dtilt (which comboes from sb) can combo into a slightly delayed shff nair which can pop up into another one on pop up or maybe if they land grounded could combo into footstool>disable. But nair is extremely inconsistent and we cant figure out exactly how it works. Figuring out how nair works could not only help landing nair comboes like that but also make 0-deaths like fcsb>dtilt>fhnair (hitting forward)>djuair>fair a consistent thing.
@NinjaGamer820
@NinjaGamer820 5 жыл бұрын
Oh shit it's ya boi Bambi
@evanwarner3727
@evanwarner3727 5 жыл бұрын
___ I3ambi are you in the Pokémon lab Bambi? :)
@___i3ambi126
@___i3ambi126 2 жыл бұрын
@eric Spencer Did anyone every figure out the mysteries of nair?
@dinojack9000
@dinojack9000 5 жыл бұрын
Oooooohhhhh this explains a lot. Yesterday I fought a Mewtwo who spammed the hell out of confusion once I got to high percent. I was wondering what that was about.
@prospectrose
@prospectrose 5 жыл бұрын
Also you forgot about Pokemon Trainer's frame 1 switch
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
fffff
@oreosc
@oreosc 5 жыл бұрын
@@GimR literally the most well known frame 1 invincible
@evergreen8600
@evergreen8600 5 жыл бұрын
This is the one I was waiting for
@micuva
@micuva 5 жыл бұрын
was expecting trainer first when he was gonna list characters who can get out
@SpaceFrog999
@SpaceFrog999 5 жыл бұрын
the WHAT
@AdalHRivera
@AdalHRivera 5 жыл бұрын
If it weren't for that final Jiggs clip, I would not have realized that the Rest sound effect is literally the Smash 64 hit sound effect in a really high pitch.
@colinhendry6116
@colinhendry6116 5 жыл бұрын
where's my two minutes of black screen to make it 10 mins
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
fffffff
@colinhendry6116
@colinhendry6116 5 жыл бұрын
GimR's Lab I still believe the gimz always wins. This was just a statistical anomaly...
@irok1
@irok1 5 жыл бұрын
He went back to the lab too quick
@laserbeamlightning
@laserbeamlightning 5 жыл бұрын
GimR's Lab just loop the song
@KaRmaTheSchemer
@KaRmaTheSchemer 5 жыл бұрын
You legend ... I was thinking exactly that when I clicked this xD
@prospectrose
@prospectrose 5 жыл бұрын
"Ah shit, here we go again"
@uncivilninja1972
@uncivilninja1972 5 жыл бұрын
Epic
@aliastex8222
@aliastex8222 5 жыл бұрын
It's time for us to strike back! *Laughs in Mewtwo*
@Endershock1678
@Endershock1678 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone else: *Laughs in Tail Hurtbox*
@atticusv668
@atticusv668 5 жыл бұрын
GimR coming out with all the traps like he's Fred from Scooby Doo
@hodstrat3722
@hodstrat3722 5 жыл бұрын
GimR will make actually all the characters broken with those discovery
@snitchbug
@snitchbug 5 жыл бұрын
if everyone’s broken nobody is
@fogijay
@fogijay 5 жыл бұрын
5:15 you had me lmaoo
@DsGBiohazard
@DsGBiohazard 5 жыл бұрын
This move has been buffed. I repeat, this move has been buffed.
@epsilon9669
@epsilon9669 5 жыл бұрын
Jigglypuff interrupts the combo **UH-OH**
@carbon8310
@carbon8310 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your hard work in the lab Gimz. Can't wait to watch the tournament on stream. We appreciate you
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia 5 жыл бұрын
The same frame advantage mechanic happens with Isabelle's jab, except it's even better than Snake's down throw and Mewtwo's side special because it technically doesn't have set knockback. What this means is that it doesn't have a cap and it even gets higher with rage, though higher weight will likewise make it lower. It's amazing how so few people know about this and how everyone says it's one of the worst jabs in the game when it's actually the best, lol. Could definitely be worth making a video on.
@jellybelly8672
@jellybelly8672 5 жыл бұрын
I subbed cause I’ve been a mewtwo main since melee and you’ve made me happy showing this trick to other people.
@Epicbattlefan
@Epicbattlefan 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Gimz. I saw a theorycraft of this jump confusion to Fair on some obscure low karma reddit sub about 2 months back but ofc it wasn't as in depth as this.
@Masonomace
@Masonomace 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Also, when it came to characters jumping out of endlag, their hurtbox shifts differently if they doublejump in neutral position vs doublejumping away. In my experiences with S4, jumping toward & jumping in neutral were the same for most fighters, but jumping back was different. Just a little thought.
@StoryTeller796
@StoryTeller796 3 жыл бұрын
Now, time to continue with my casual playstyle with competitive rules on online smash to elite smash with this character.
@XXMASTERRIKUXX
@XXMASTERRIKUXX 5 жыл бұрын
Before you made this video I picked mew two for like 2-3 days and he simply clicked with me, saw this video and simply great, this is the type of content I subscribed for, new to the community and love it so far!
@sksilver8176
@sksilver8176 4 жыл бұрын
Keep pushing that ult meta bro we love you for it
@vyq6014
@vyq6014 5 жыл бұрын
So simple, yet so cool! Nice content. I kinda missed this upload first because of the standard thumbnail that looked like a let‘s play or something :/
@Kong_YT
@Kong_YT 5 жыл бұрын
I knew you got frame advantage based on percent but I never thought that it mattered on anything else. Thanks so much for this video!
@tanukigirl83
@tanukigirl83 5 жыл бұрын
Davis Kong What's up gamer
@scanvil3766
@scanvil3766 5 жыл бұрын
"i'm busy, it's back to the lab with me" i bet he always just watches an episode game of thrones or some anime every time after the video
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
>.> true
@icedtea649
@icedtea649 5 жыл бұрын
Hang in there buddy. Thanks for your videos, and for VG boot camp. I'd go to your tourney if I lived anywhere close. It's difficult but you're moving up man.
@tonytorres4104
@tonytorres4104 5 жыл бұрын
I so glad u put this out because I've been saying for weeks that side b fair is a kill combo. Omg and I've said confusion on shield is amazing.
@xSABRET00TH
@xSABRET00TH 5 жыл бұрын
In the very back of my mind i remember gimrs outro...dawg you funny af. 😂😂😂
@SeekAndDestroy5
@SeekAndDestroy5 5 жыл бұрын
You da man GimR! Keep up the stellar work bro
@Beambamosu
@Beambamosu 5 жыл бұрын
Wait Marthcina's up b is invincible frame 1? I thought it was like frame 4-5 or something along those lines
@Zethoro
@Zethoro 5 жыл бұрын
Beambam hitbox is on frame 4 but the invincibility is frame 1.
@joseluistrejo1859
@joseluistrejo1859 5 жыл бұрын
I will practice this technique carefully, thank you so much.
@SerenadeURA
@SerenadeURA 5 жыл бұрын
"it tells you in the game you can do this" It also tells you in the game that you can hold both shield buttons or shield and B to shuffle shield without a roll or spotdodge and yet people acted like that's arcane knowledge.
@Kuribohdudalala
@Kuribohdudalala 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best smash ultimate channel out there. Thanks for all the great content Gimz!
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
damn dude. I really appreciate the love!
@sean1976
@sean1976 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I'm really enjoying the content!
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@juanrubio3524
@juanrubio3524 5 жыл бұрын
This is so smart and I'm excited to try it out more
@samhollrah3455
@samhollrah3455 5 жыл бұрын
Hi GimR! First of all, I just found your channel and I have to say that I’m loving your content! Also, do you just happen upon different techs fro characters, or do you try and decide that you’d like to showcase something for a specific character?
@TheSwatstar
@TheSwatstar 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I learned so much from this vid thank u a lot
@emceegrammar
@emceegrammar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for noticing. I’ve been noticing dragdown nair after confusion spparently has applications as Nair also comes out frame 7. It always seems to pop them behind mewtwo afterwards although I’m not sure if the fullhop and shorthop versions get different results in that regard.
@blueststar4u
@blueststar4u 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, i thought id seen it all with mewtwo until i tried this out today and turned the tables on my king Krool rival. Thank you Gim.
@FrnzFrdnnd
@FrnzFrdnnd 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good luck with Pound ;)
@Silver19897
@Silver19897 5 жыл бұрын
Now *this* is the character-specific tech I was waiting to see. Not that Ice Climbers blasphemy
@mathunit1
@mathunit1 5 жыл бұрын
"blasphemy" Fuck off.
@zaaya7719
@zaaya7719 4 жыл бұрын
Oliver Xu damn son you mad
@Ephlaght
@Ephlaght 5 жыл бұрын
Mew2’s Side B to Down B is a True Combo
@mayisthebestfr
@mayisthebestfr 5 жыл бұрын
I mained m2 in 4 so I might try looking into him in ult now 👀. Thanks fam
@auk2574
@auk2574 5 жыл бұрын
Wisnam He plays considerably different from his Smash 4 counterpart and we’ve been nerfed to a mid-low tier, if that affects your viewpoint going into it. He’s still a crazy fun character in this game.
@mayisthebestfr
@mayisthebestfr 5 жыл бұрын
Brayden Smith yeah i tried him and he felt a lot different. He doesn’t seem that bad though. But idk
@Gr33nPhoenix
@Gr33nPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
@@mayisthebestfr my biggest issue is it's so hard to land safely with Mewtwo
@edwinnaranjo9435
@edwinnaranjo9435 5 жыл бұрын
He's high tier if you play lame like hungrybox.
@Shinesaur
@Shinesaur 5 жыл бұрын
@@edwinnaranjo9435 no because his tail has a hurtbox lol
@phongly2207
@phongly2207 5 жыл бұрын
This is insane gimr...one day I hope something like this comes out for falcon :]
@TopOfAllWorlds
@TopOfAllWorlds 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO that ending. I was about to ask about that.
@gerardoledezma4126
@gerardoledezma4126 5 жыл бұрын
Killer queen has already touched that distortion in the air
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
Killer Queen AKA Jigglypuff.
@digm2130
@digm2130 5 жыл бұрын
Palutena's landing Nair kind of works like that, the higher the % the higher stun on opponent for follow-ups
@jonathansmith6302
@jonathansmith6302 5 жыл бұрын
Ken also gets +1 at higher percents for crescent kick. The balancing team really knows what they're doing.
@antohero3302
@antohero3302 4 жыл бұрын
I love mewtwo so much
@PalPlays
@PalPlays 5 жыл бұрын
Duck Hunt Can comes out frame 1.
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
oh yeah
@antehman2912
@antehman2912 5 жыл бұрын
ayyy lets go fuck mewtwo eat my percent idiottttt
@drazgul1
@drazgul1 5 жыл бұрын
I knew me spamming confusion on everyone had a solid base. I was getting SO much out of it. This makes all the sense to me
@smashpow
@smashpow 5 жыл бұрын
I love this. I might be tryin to use this shiz. I mained mewtwo in smash4 for a bit after his release. It was nice.
@Pan_Z
@Pan_Z 5 жыл бұрын
Damn... Thanks Gimr.
@vinnielachipmunk9940
@vinnielachipmunk9940 5 жыл бұрын
Kirby's dtilt (when it doesn't trip) also has increased frame advantage the higher percent they are、although it's just a fringe kill setup for Kirby himself、it could translate to other characters with moves that force people to slide when they get hit similar to Kirby dtilt.
@Nipponing
@Nipponing 5 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome. Love Mewtwo and you're doing great work.
@AlekVS
@AlekVS 5 жыл бұрын
Gimr’s lab time!!!!!
@warrior1590
@warrior1590 5 жыл бұрын
I suppose this can help with Mewtwo metagame, strong kill confirm from a command grab at the cost of having Mewtwo’s entire tail be a hurtbox. Its huge.
@alicon852
@alicon852 3 жыл бұрын
5:12 LET'S GOOOOOOO
@vyseskies
@vyseskies 5 жыл бұрын
doing more effort that BSB. Thank you for sharing this
@sweetmouse9870
@sweetmouse9870 4 жыл бұрын
oh and something important is Villager's Lloyd Rocket comes out frame 1 and fresh mewtwo fair does enough damage to explode it - activate "lloyd counter" stale fair just hits us but if fair is fresh and we're both high percent, mewtwo could literally just die instead.
@bambyce
@bambyce 5 жыл бұрын
Thank for your great content.
@K_Falcon0
@K_Falcon0 5 жыл бұрын
Poor falcon never gets a break
@SC-mm6vz
@SC-mm6vz 5 жыл бұрын
Gimr the meta maker
@abdosamadmussa1472
@abdosamadmussa1472 5 жыл бұрын
*It hurt it self in confusion*
@BigFellaThx
@BigFellaThx 5 жыл бұрын
Idk I feel like if they roll behind you after the spaced fair on shield and you buffer the confusion that's a free f smash or any kind of punish tbh especially because of mew2's tail hurtbox
@skyrocket2086
@skyrocket2086 5 жыл бұрын
Oh hey Mewtwo, I just saw u in a video of armada talking about who needs buffs
@fatalfoams
@fatalfoams 5 жыл бұрын
That ending though
@dende_ult714
@dende_ult714 5 жыл бұрын
I saw SDX do a side B to F air on a Wolf at 165%, I think it was even possible in Smash 4
@RocksAreBlue
@RocksAreBlue 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the move didn't have the scaling property it does now in 4 and was slightly "better" overall. Notably, how it didn't halt his momentum. As I never faithfully played with or against the character, idk if confusion set ups were 50/50s or true combos in 4
@Bolt38877
@Bolt38877 5 жыл бұрын
I do confusion with mostly smash attacks all the time but I never did one with out jumping unless I need to get back on the platform without getting hit
@auk2574
@auk2574 5 жыл бұрын
Confusion > a smash attack will usually whiff at lower percents, especially if they don’t DI. Fair or dtilt are great options if you can land them, or you could pursue their reaction, like a tech chase
@dorf7219
@dorf7219 5 жыл бұрын
woah, i didn't know there was an event in maryland, I gotta go (started playing around when smash 4 was on its way out) hope to see you there.
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
hope to see you there too!
@sendhelp6349
@sendhelp6349 5 жыл бұрын
Mewtwo giving Wolf some Vietnam flashbaks in the thumbnail
@MeesterTweester
@MeesterTweester 5 жыл бұрын
wow a kill confirm on almost the whole cast
@kingofevilganondorf
@kingofevilganondorf 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering whether ganon’s side b had some kind of advantage frames with it. Would appreciate it if someone took a look at that.
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
hmmm..
@yokuutsu9097
@yokuutsu9097 4 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck-
@regendary582
@regendary582 5 жыл бұрын
I did an actual dance when I saw new Mewtwo tech
@Wiziliz
@Wiziliz 4 жыл бұрын
7:52 You sound like you're about to burst into tears.
@sergeanthuman
@sergeanthuman 3 жыл бұрын
Screw tier lists when we got techniques- Mewtwo has been my main for a while thx
@olufade11
@olufade11 5 жыл бұрын
Yooo I'm from Beltsville Maryland bro! I didn't know you were local. Just subscribed and may join the tourney next year! Cheers dude!
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, that's aweseome! Consider coming to Xanadu sometime, it's about 15 minutes from ya!
@olufade11
@olufade11 5 жыл бұрын
@@GimR I didn't know it existed. Thanks for the recommendation!
@water_king1
@water_king1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping me out with some new combo ideas for Mewtwo my main! I appreciate it man.
@lwuffyl
@lwuffyl 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention how when somebody is on the lower Battlefield platforms or Pokemon Stadium platforms how you could do a short hop and then instantly cancel the height of it with confusion to be able to beat shields on platforms. There are a couple characters where I think you could uptilt them but doesn't kill I quit Mewtwo just before I found it out.
@Eragonnogare
@Eragonnogare 5 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe look at where the reflector actually is on robs side b? I have had it just not reflect for no reason and die due to this, and I've even had it hit and neutralize a projectile and not reflect it, and it's super weird and inconsistent.
@marcelloespinosa9061
@marcelloespinosa9061 5 жыл бұрын
I think it has to be at the very beginning of the swing
@KryyssTV
@KryyssTV 5 жыл бұрын
So in short, confusion is only slightly less useless now that we know it works best when used with a Fair.
@TheSpyroplayer
@TheSpyroplayer 5 жыл бұрын
Jigglypuff's rest is invincible on frame one. Worst comes to worst, you might get hit by the rest since it comes out on frame 2 and a few frames after
@locswail7600
@locswail7600 5 жыл бұрын
I kind a had a feeling that either ppl cant react to this or it was like snake downthrow. Also depending the character You can space comfusion and if you miss its harder for you to punish. There are other tricks with confusion as well. (Locwail) Thank you for the info.
@jordanesquivel7604
@jordanesquivel7604 5 жыл бұрын
This man is a genious
@Spleen2ween
@Spleen2ween 5 жыл бұрын
Is this Overcooked music? Hell yeah!
@GimR
@GimR 5 жыл бұрын
it's rom odyssey
@NightArMzX75
@NightArMzX75 5 жыл бұрын
Yo! I did this on accident fighting a computer and now I'm so glad this video confirms it's a thing. Now I need to practice it.
@Kenzoah
@Kenzoah 5 жыл бұрын
Heyyyyy s/o to Maryland 💜 the whole dmv
@Vapedad430
@Vapedad430 5 жыл бұрын
You should do some peach tech I feel like theres a lot of interesting things you could find!
@joppesijses
@joppesijses 5 жыл бұрын
2:54 Yoshi has armor on frame 1. He will probably be hit out of it at 140+ but in ultimate he then only receives knockback for difference between the maximum knockback he could eat, and the total knockback he would have if not jumping. (Or something similar). Edit: lol u thought about that. That's an even sicker punish
@marttthew
@marttthew 5 жыл бұрын
cap theme, excellent choice
@ThrusterMcBuster
@ThrusterMcBuster 5 жыл бұрын
Thought there may be some confirm with this that’s cool
@overscoreSX
@overscoreSX 4 жыл бұрын
Also, Shulk can switch to shield monado before mewtwo's F-air comes out.
@F-A-I-A
@F-A-I-A 5 жыл бұрын
Never clicked quicker to a youtube video DAMN I WANT TO USE MEWTWO AGAIN
@justaprinny9940
@justaprinny9940 5 жыл бұрын
Yes why did they need him!!
@FearTheImpaler
@FearTheImpaler 5 жыл бұрын
when i used to try this move my attacks always go right through the enemies... like they were airdodging, but they werent.
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