Now I need to re-play that mission and rewatch my recorded footage

I re-watched 2 different recordings. He says "Follow me, Big Boss" but the game subtitles don't have the quotations in the cutscene. But I'll check other cutscenes

@@dirtypms for me the phantom pain is the BEST & ULTIMATE game in the world , so much hidden details that only few start to understand now in 2019.....incredible !

@@markhamilton3215 Your standards are dirt low man.

@@markhamilton3215 Congratulations! You like....bad things! Phantom Pain is an incomplete game that has zero substance and no angle on the direction this game was hyped up to go. The sandbox feel of PP was there and it was of quality. But once you peel the real layers of this game, it really makes your statement look absolutely horrid. To YOU, it may be an opinion but even opinions can be wrong. The fact is, this is NOT the ultimate, most definitive experience for anyone as this is the trashiest tier MGS title in the history of its legacy. And it's not Kojima-san's fault whatsoever. You seriously need to play MGS4 for that ultimate experience. Even Ground Zeroes has more balls than this garbage of a game, and Skull Face is a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain, at best! His presentation was leagues better in GZ.

Bruh Skull made Chico rape Paz lmao that man has no moral superiority. Huey is just a piece of shit.

@@nemo9864 he is a demonnnnnn

If someone like him hates you, you're probably just a flat-out scumbag.

@@nemo9864 excuse me Chico did what?

@@stevejm1629 Skull made Chico (a minor) rape Paz. A bit worse than a man who got mercenaries (people who get paid to kill people) killed.

LMAO

oof, wish he did more than that to him though

do it for the vine

“Man, I always wanted to push a crippled guy down the stairs.” Skull Face in some Al universe.

It's Huey so he's fully justified

Venom snake isn't evil, skullface in GZ was big boss, but in phantom pain he is venom snake he was burned in the helicopter crash and he has same scar like the one on venom's horn. Skullface's pilot is pequad (and has diamond dogs logo on his helmet too) he also uses same helicopter type as venom, venom has an XOF soldier backpack from ground zeroes. And there's too many signs.

​@@Boss.X5 brother what are you cookin?

The best

So hot ❤

i know, and he's like the phantom Ocelot. filling in the niche for western styled villains

Someone explain me this : in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack And we all know who is Jack or John... So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !! But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team. I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...

@@markhamilton3215 isn't jack raiden

@@markhamilton3215 Honestly I firmly believe that Skull Face was originally intended to be Venom Snake's subconsciousness. Here's my explanation: if you exclude the scene of Skull Face's death and the one where he pushes Huey, in every other scene his presence is literally not even acknowledged by everyone else (including Venom Snake). Even the scene where Venom Snake stops Skull Face from boarding that helicopter, and afterwards they go for a jeep ride as if nothing happened can be explained in the sense that he negotiated with XOF in order to inspect MG Sahelanthropus (I mean, he had abducted Huey ,the lead engineer of Sahelanthropus before it was fully functional). Add the phrase from the trailer "His face,his identity everything was stolen from him" and you get a perfect description of Venom. Heck, even the Skull Face's disfigured appearance could be considered as a metaphor of Venom Snake's condition (years of brainwashing and surgical procedures have completely disfigured him the point that he's a wholly different person). Also if you take in account that the removed chapter (Peace) was about Venom rebelling against the real Big Boss, that makes Skull Face's jeep speech ("This war is peace") the scene where Venom slowly pieces together the fact that he was brainwashed into thinking of himself as Big Boss.

@@conor-_C Jack is the birth name for both Raiden and Naked Snake (Big Boss)

Someone explain me this : in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack And we all know who is Jack or John... So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !! But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team. I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...

@@markhamilton3215 lel same name doesn't mean same people raiden's name is jack too but he is not the bigboss

@@markhamilton3215 and btw mgsv happen before bigboss burned by solid snake

@@dholdiperthemvp1839 I doubt Jack was even his real name to begin with.

Jean Pierre Polnareff?

Can’t afford to accidentally kill an *S++* Soldier 🤪

I literally did that just in chase he set me up and I had to shoot my way out of OKB Zero again.

Gotta build that legendary army bro!

notforsale today I may be wrong but I think you actually do

Yeah the gold plated sawnoff shotgun. Pretty sure you do. I take it as the weapon of choice because the game forces you to equip a primary and secondary weapon and it's the smallest primary. Except for the procure on site hard missions

sadly you don't would be cool to see Snake run around with a lever-action

@@joegrimes9232 thats not it, skull face's gun is a mare's leg lever action rifle

it's actually cut content I'm pretty sure. it's called the skull special or something like that

after everything skull face did to him and his army, what else would he have to say to him? that’s the way i took it

Silent but deadly.

He looked so bored though.

@@lafamille843 Wrong

@@lukescrew1981 it’s just the generic animation because Kojima had no idea how to handle that scene

Its part of his prescence, be hiden in the shadows, almost never seen, in TPP itself his aparitions were rare, but intense, thats why he is memorable.

True "Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water. Jack? Hmm. Jack fell down, broke his crown and Jill. Jill came tumbling after" In skull faces voice it sounds epic, but it's a boring nusery rhyme

He voiced President Shinra, when I discovered it I was so happy. He really give the character that full evil in him. I actually hate Shinra more than I hated him 20 years ago.

I feel like he’s inspired by the disfigured man from hannibal Mason Verger

I wonder who was more sadistic him or Volgin?

@@SaulidSnake Equal?

@@SaulidSnake volgin didn't have a really good excuse behind his intense violence besides getting a kick out of it while skull face had a large elaborate plan that had a bunch of parts that needed to be in place, so I think volgin was more sadistic

I thought he was a mixture of Oppenheimer and Angel Eyes.

Cool

"Subtlety" is not a word in Kojima's vocabulary

Subtlety is for nerds who think they’re brilliant writer.

@@man3son1 I would say it’s a useful tool that is often used as genius writing rather than an actual tool

@@man3son1 Subtlety is against the rule of the cool and nerds love it.

I know right? The visual design, the soundtrack, the voice acting, the insane yet logical writing, it all just brings so much of the enjoyment of a good film or show while adding the interactivity that gets us to the next cutscene!

Coldest line ever

@@YABUKIJOE2077 and then "Wouldn't you AGREEEEEE?"

"What gives, dude?"

"Such a lust for revenge! WHOOOOOOO!?"

Burning man"Ight imma head out"

That’s volgin

The greatest tragedy of Skull Face

The thing is, in cheering "Revenge!" after killing him, Huey essentially validates Skull Face's whole point, in a sort of under-handed manner. Guess it's apt for his character, in the end.

Skull Face would is a tough bastard, especially living with the injuries he's sustained over his life, but I can't imagine he'd cope very well with an ass beating from Batman

Time code ?

​​14:58 The one near 15:23 is an XOF Soldier behind him as the elevator reaches the bottom. ​@@maywandamir8480

@@ericb.1384 thank you

Someone explain me this : in 'the truth' tapes Cipher calls Skull Face Jack And we all know who is Jack or John... So for me after the mirror ending scene in phantom pain , skull face WAS Original/John Big Boss !! But....after reflexion : we see genuine big boss climbing cliff in ground zeroes prologue while skull face appear in the same fucking scene with XOF copter & XOF team. I would have understood if he didnt appeared in this scene but only later AFTER the copter /paz bomb incident that he IS the genuine big boss that his son solid snake burned him to death with his zippo/spray can. but HOW both of them Big boss & Skull Face) appear in the SAME FUCKING SEQUENCE is BEYOND ME ....because the motherbase soldier who protected big boss in the copter / bomb explosion is brainwashed/ became big boss shadow ONLY AFTER The Copter Paz Bomb Explosion !!! explain me this ...

Every enemy in Metal Gear comes from a village, apparently.

He is also venom snake that makes him even more special

Why’d he say that to the random guy

​@@YABUKIJOE2077 I think he (the man) was simply not giving the parasite results Skull Face was looking for (failure/disgrace). So he was euthanized. But Skull Face knew that was no fault of the man on the bed and that was his way of saying "it's not your fault". Key note about him: He expresses sympathy to those he tortures.

timestamp?

@@user-ki9td1qx9n 9:30

Whats the language He uses there

Breh

Tbh he sounds like one of those guys you find at comic book shops that takes magic the gathering too seriously.

Care to elaborate?

Giggity

Unknow I am Lmao I thought of that but it’s actually his crotch being crushed by the metal and it’s bleeding

@@MrGhozt why isn't it red or black if it's blood?

dirtypms Hope that was sarcastic

It's tradition

like what? skull face?

@@Gadget-Walkmen yes if it weren't for the offscreen Frankenstein reconstruction they did on his body, he'd look horrifically burnt and disfigured because Solid Snake set him on fire in Metal Gear 2

There is a theory he is in fact that and this game is a weird hallucination after he got burned

@@Journey_Awaits well we know that's not true because this happens before metal gear 1 & 2

They recorded grunts and screams with James Horan which indicate there at some point were plans for a fight. And some dialogue that doesn't actually make it into the game. It can be datamined. Check this: soundcloud.com/gboon/sets/skullface-interaction-noises

He got crushed by Sahelantropus

Skull face was just a smart and ugly man with a wide range of influence he didn’t have super powers or anything so in a one on one battle with big boss he would’ve lost

@@ThatGuyKh1 he did have the parasites in him, but honestly the scene with kaz and venom shooting him was enough for me

@@ThatGuyKh1 but he has...

@FBI Alypstick Funny thing also is that Freeman is in the game too but just playing a bunch NPCs.

@@civilwarfare101 it's funny because freeman voices almost all the Staff soliders, even Pequad, on mother base.

@@Gadget-Walkmen That's the weirdest part of it all

Freeman voiced Sundowner.

@@transformersrevenge9 YUUP

He's pretty badass, actually

Compared to guys like Volgin or Liquid Ocelot he seems pretty grounded honestly, not that it's a bad thing, but MGS has gone way higher before

Do you? I mean I love his speeches. He has a great voice and charisma. I would imagine XOF love it wouldn't they?

Infiltration tactics

When fans write better stories than the original developers

Transylvania, where the Dracula stuff takes place, is located between Hungary and Romania. Vamp is Romanian, Skull Face speaks Hungarian. They very well can be family.

@@omercan108 not sure. Still waiting for confirmation from Kojima-san.

Tell me, what were your chosen weapons? What tactics did your Snake employ? And who was your buddy?

@dirtypms it was where bees sleep, so I was running default gear and a sniper I had just unlocked. Got spotted at the base, ended up eliminating every guard in the area.

Dramatic effect?

they both want to gouge each other's eyes out

Mwah

Your grandpa has one cool ass voice

Kaz miller

I assume you don’t like the joker then

@@UlimitedCookie1 how do those two things connect in the slightest?

Sean Lennon Joker literally had a movie

Ellithejoker find a Batman fan that doesn’t know joker had a movie you cant

Sean Lennon I know but he criticized Skullface for having a lack of screen time among other things and the Joker doesn’t have a lack of screen time

🤣

Fr that's dumb asf

Not quite, venom snake is skullface

I don't understand well your comment but Metal Gear REX was built in 2005, Sahelathropus was built in 1984

I need to learn how to model swap on my steam copy now

during the great monologue, real Boss would be asking questions like: wipe out the English language? and vice versa.

@@themagalanium9491 Hayter boss would be interjecting with his own insight, Kiefer boss just listens.

Say what?

Where is this coming from?

@@dirtypms Reddit most likely. I've been looking for this for like a month now (It ticks me off not knowing) and haven't found anything about it. That's why I asked.