MHMD [18] Here's all you need to know about Islam's "MHMD" in ONE VIDEO!

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We have been told that this series on 'Muhammad' (or rather MHMD) is not only too long, but is too complicated for anyone to follow. So, Mel and I decided to record a summary of all of the material on the Muhammad of the 7th century in one video. And here it is, all in a little under an hour.
So, put you pens down and just watch.
To begin with, it seems that we've been looking for the wrong man, because the Muslim's prophet, referred to as "Muhammad", could have never existed in written form like that. The reason, that Muhammad requires 3 vowels in order to read it, a dhamma (or 'u' sound) above the first mim, a fatah (or 'a' sound) above the following ha, and another fatah (or 'a' sound) above the second mim.
Yet, there weren't any vowels in Arabic in the 7th century.
Take a look at any of the 6 earliest Qur'anic manuscripts and you will see that they don't have any vowels, and hardly any dots as well.
So, how could there have been anyone named "Muhammad" that early? They were all created much later, in the 8th - 9th centuries.
All they had in Arabic in the 7th century were 16 consonants, with no vowels.
So, when you remove the 3 vowels, you are left with 4 consonants...MHMD, which when pronounced out loud was simply MAHMAD.
Now, suddenly the word makes sense, because there were many MHMDs all over that area and in that time! In fact that word has a long history, beginning way back in 1400 BC.
-1400 BC: This word was first introduced at this time in Ugaritic, and meant "The Desired One", or "The Precious One". So, from the very beginning it was a title, not a name.
-1000 BC: The Hebrews borrowed this word and introduced it into the Old Testament 11 times. For instance in Song of Solomon 5:16 the word MHMD is "The altogether Lovely One", referring to Solomon, but also referring to the future Messiah. So, it was a Messianic term for the Jews.
In Psalms 68:16 and Proverbs 12:12 we find this MHMD is "Desired", or "Desires", or "Desirable", all referring to the coming Messiah.
-300 AD: The Christian father St. Ambrose, referring to Song of Solomon 5:16 stated that this 'Altogether lovely' one was indeed the Messiah, Jesus Christ, who would return a 2nd time. So, from then on all the Christians speaking Aramaic and Syriac considered the MHMD was Jesus Christ.
-523 AD: A Jewish inscription referring to the Jewish Exilarch Mar Zutra's death in 520 AD calls him the MHMD, or the Messiah.
-617 AD: The Exilarch Nehemiah ben Husiel, who conquered Jerusalem in 614 AD, but then was killed in 617 AD is renamed as the MHMD ben Joseph (the suffering one of Israel). The next Exilarch, his brother Salman al-Farsi, is given the title MHMD ben David (the conquering King of Israel), and considered the Messiah.
According to Chinese sources from that time, there were between 5 - 12 different Jewish exilarchs in Iraq who took on the title MHMD. Notice, none of these Jewish MHMDs are in the central part of Arabia called the Hijaz, where Mecca and Medina are located, because there is no WATER there to give them life. They are all 1000 miles further north, where there's plenty of water.
-660 AD: The Caliph Muawiya (whom Muslims believe was a good Muslim) mints coins in 660s AD with his image on it, holding a cross in both hands, with a cross above his head, and another cross on the reverse side. Below it on the reverse side is the word MHMD in Arabic, clearly stating that this was the Messiah Jesus Christ.
-663 AD: We know he was a Christian because of an inscription with his name, and refers to himself as the "Abdallah", which means "The servant of God", who is the "Commander of the believers". But which believers? At the upper left side of the inscription is a cross; thus, he is the commander of the Christians. So, both the coins and the inscriptions clearly state that this MHMD is Jesus Himself, the anointed one, the Messiah.
-7th century: Meanwhile the Jews claimed that their exilarchs (the Jewish Arab authorities in what is today Iraq) were the Messiahs whom they were waiting for.
-8th Century: The Abbasids come to power, but they don't have their own prophet, nor their own revelation. So, they then introduce a 3rd MHMD, who is their prophet, their Messiah, as a fulfillment of the Jewish and Christian MHMDs; and thus he becomes "The Seal of the Prophets". The Chinese claim this happens in 756 AD.
Once they have their own MHMD, who they call 'Muhammad'; he then needs a revelation. That is why all of the Qur'ans begin to appear at this time, and his "Back-story" (the Sira, Hadith, Tafsir & Takhrigh) are written and codified a century later, in the 9th - 10th centuries.
CONCLUSION: The Muhammad of Islam is a complete phantom, created in the Abbasid period to fulfill the earlier Jewish and Christian MHMDs (Messiahs), who is yet to appear.
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics & Polemics - US, July 3, 2024
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@Repent4JesusChrist
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@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@trevornunn3285
@trevornunn3285 26 күн бұрын
Jesus was imaginary too - a Roman invention
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 26 күн бұрын
“bible son means closer” doesn’t have a direct biblical reference, but I can share some related insights. In the Bible, the concept of “son” often symbolizes a close relationship, inheritance, and covenant. Jesus not God
@FreedomOfSpeech1.0
@FreedomOfSpeech1.0 26 күн бұрын
​@trevornunn3285 when you are burning in hell please keep that same energy 😂 every major historical expert agrees Jesus did exist and you want the world to believe you instead lmfao
@sattaurnikki
@sattaurnikki 29 күн бұрын
Without lies Islam dies!
@Avastidas
@Avastidas 20 күн бұрын
😂😂😂. It seems Christians are terrible liars. This video is evidence for it .
@MidHigh178
@MidHigh178 17 күн бұрын
Stop sham your self man .Read quran himself
@brunovila100
@brunovila100 8 күн бұрын
​@@MidHigh178Which Quran should we read?
@MidHigh178
@MidHigh178 8 күн бұрын
@@brunovila100 Dont worry there is only one Quran the final testament
@brunovila100
@brunovila100 8 күн бұрын
@@MidHigh178 So you haven't watched any of Dr. Jay's presentations proving otherwise. Why are you even here commenting on these videos if you're not looking for the truth?
@OdonLafontaine
@OdonLafontaine Ай бұрын
Every mention of "muhammad" in the Quran and that of "ahmad" are interpolations. This has been proven by Edouard M. Gallez in his article “References to Muhammad in the Quran: Lost Years since 1949? History of a Research”, published by Inârah (in Robert M. KERR, Markus GROSS & Karl-Heinz OHLIG (Ed.), Die Entstehung einer Weltreligion VI, Inârah volume 10, Schiler & Mücke, Berlin, 2020) and also available on his Academia page. Let that sink in: there was no mention of Muhammad in the earliest Quranic material. It means there never was any Islamic Muhammad. His figure is a litterary creation.
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu Ай бұрын
Hey Odon, we dont hear from you nowadays.
@OdonLafontaine
@OdonLafontaine Ай бұрын
@@yakovmatityahu I just released my English book. Haven't you heard of this? Look for my website thegreatsecretofislam and for my English YT channel, "The Great Secret of Islam". I'm working on videos to present the book to the public. Btw, the pdf version of the book is available free on my website
@OdonLafontaine
@OdonLafontaine Ай бұрын
@@yakovmatityahu Haven't you heard I just released my English book ?
@yakovmatityahu
@yakovmatityahu Ай бұрын
@@OdonLafontaine oh yes, Thats great Odon, i will read the same, Thanks.
@ingoschneuing1073
@ingoschneuing1073 Ай бұрын
In case you may be not aware of Nicholas of Cusa' s screening the Qur'an some 500 plus years ago, he will surprise you with many more facts. The latin/english translation is still around. J. Hopkins, Nicholas of Cusa's De pace fidei and Cribratio Alkorani. Translation and Analysis, Minneapolis 1994, 75-189 Some close to 900 pages are found in Ludovico Marrraccio's works Sura by Sura in his book "Refutio Alkorani "from 1896.
@lochinvarmack7641
@lochinvarmack7641 Ай бұрын
I have enjoyed the length and complexity. Well done folks.
@ammadqureshi5061
@ammadqureshi5061 24 күн бұрын
lolzzzz.........Muhammad was title of tribe..hahahahahhahahhahaha....Who told u that???????????
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 8 күн бұрын
Revelation 22:9 ► But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!”
@rahimbinselamat3233
@rahimbinselamat3233 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the research, Mel and Dr Jay Smith! ❤️
@docmacdvet
@docmacdvet 26 күн бұрын
This is a very good example of speaking Truth in Love. If yo hold back, you are not speaking the whole Truth , the plain Truth, and nothing but the truth.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 24 күн бұрын
"’I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8) "In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning" (John 1:1). Jesus not alpha and omega. only one true is Alpha and Omega
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 24 күн бұрын
’I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8). In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning" (John 1:1). Jesus not not God. Jesus is prophet one true God
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 8 күн бұрын
Revelation 22:9 ► But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!”
@regine3147
@regine3147 24 күн бұрын
Wise as foxes, gentle as doves. Well presented. Tku.
@kaywisseh
@kaywisseh Ай бұрын
Jesus the way, the truth and the life!!! Amen!!
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@kevinadamson5768
@kevinadamson5768 24 күн бұрын
Swapping one myth for another does not make that one right either. 😊
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 24 күн бұрын
"’I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8).
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 24 күн бұрын
"In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning" (John 1:1).
@Angel-Max7728
@Angel-Max7728 Ай бұрын
Great job revealing the lies of Islam 👍
@atheistuk8686
@atheistuk8686 27 күн бұрын
Allahu was Muhammad's creation for all his personal needs and Desires,, if he want anything,, he is delivering message in the name of Allah,,, infact both are one.
@keithsymons5708
@keithsymons5708 26 күн бұрын
Without lies islam dies
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 8 күн бұрын
Revelation 22:9 ► But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!”
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit Ай бұрын
For those asking for the original Gospel read this entire post as the Gospel hasn't changed for over 2000 years. Below are Scriptural proofs that I've collected over the years. The NT Gospels - Evidence of Author's & Dates Written: Matthew - A tax collector who became Jesus' apostle and wrote about the life of Jesus as the Messiah of the Jewish community c. 54 to 60 AD. Mark - A Jew, and a companion of Peter and Paul, who wrote for both Jews and Gentiles about Christ's death and resurrection c. 46 to 54 AD. Luke - A Gentile doctor, a companion of Peter and Paul who wrote for the Gentiles about Christ the Savior of humankind. c. 54 to 60 AD. Luke - also wrote the Acts of the Apostles c. 60 AD. John - The 'beloved' apostle of Jesus, wrote in his later years about the Word who took on Flesh (John 1:1,14) c. 80-90 AD. John - also wrote 3 Letters and The Book of Revelations c. 80-95 AD. James - Jesus' half-brother, wrote 1 letter c. 35 AD. Paul - wrote 13 letters c.49 - 65 AD. Jude - wrote 1 letter c. 65 AD. Peter - wrote 2 letters c. 67 AD. The author of Hebrews is unknown c. 65 AD. Jesus Christ's' ministry began between the dates of 27-30AD and with 30-33AD for His Crucifixion, well attested facts. Christianity began after the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ when thousands of Jews became followers of the 'Way', (Jesus). The New Testament scholar, F.F. Bruce, gives strong historical evidence that the New Testament was completed by A.D. 100. The apostles and their companions wrote the New Testament from their first-hand experiences with Jesus the Christ, (Messiah). New Testament integrity is supported by historians, biblical and textual scholars, along with thousands of early codices, manuscripts and the Dead Sea Scrolls, proving the validity and preservation of the Gospels written between c. 35-90 A.D (Eusebius, Church History 111. 39 .15; Irenaeus Against Heresies, 111.1) Internal Evidence: The internal evidence supports these early dates for several reasons. The first three Gospels prophesied the fall of the Jerusalem Temple which occurred in A.D. 70. However, the fulfillment is not mentioned in them. It is strange that these three Gospels predict this major event but don't record it happening. Why didn't they mention such an important prophetic milestone? The most plausible explanation is that it hadn't yet occurred at the time Matthew, Mark, Luke, Acts and the majority of the New Testament was written. In the book of Acts, the Temple plays a central role in the nation of Israel. Luke writes as if the Temple is an important part of Jewish life. He also ends Acts on a strange note: Paul living under house arrest. It is strange that Luke does not record the death of his two chief characters, Peter and Paul. The most plausible reason for this is that Luke finished writing Acts before Peter and Paul's martyrdom in A.D. 64. A significant point to highlight is that the Gospel of Luke precedes Acts, further supporting the traditional dating of c. A.D. 54 to 60. Most scholars agree Mark precedes Luke, making Mark's Gospel even earlier. Finally, the majority of New Testament scholars believe that Paul's epistles were written from A.D. 48-60. Paul's outline of the life of Jesus matches that of the Gospels. 1st Corinthians is one of the least disputed books regarding its dating and Pauline authorship. In 1st Corinthians chapter 15, Paul summarizes the gospel and reinforces the premise that this is the same gospel preached by the apostles. Paul quotes from Luke's Gospel in 1 Timothy 5:18, showing us that Luke's Gospel was indeed completed in Paul's lifetime. This would move the time of the completion of Luke's Gospel along with Mark and Matthew. This Internal Evidence presents a strong case for the early dating of the Gospels. External Evidence - Gospel Dates: Were the Gospels written by eyewitnesses of the events, or were they not recorded until centuries later? As with the internal evidence, the external evidence also supports a first century date. Fortunately, New Testament scholars have an enormous amount of ancient manuscript evidence, 24,300+. The documentary evidence for the New Testament far surpasses any other work of its time, with over 5,860 Koine Greek manuscripts, many are dated within a few years of their authors' lives. Key documents: Chester Beatty Papyri contains most of the N.T. writings, and is dated around A.D. 250. The Bodmer Papyri contains most of John, and dates to A.D. 200. Rylands Papyri that was found in Egypt and contains large fragments of John, and dates to A.D. 130. From this fragment we can conclude that John was completed well before A.D. 130 because, not only did the gospel have to be written, it had to be hand copied and make its way down from Greece to Egypt. The majority of scholars agree that John is the last gospel written, so we can affirm its first century date along with the other three with greater assurance. Early New Testament Papyrus Manuscripts: Dead Sea Scrolls, the Full Text of Isaiah, especially Isa:53, and a portion of every OT book except Ester, c. 250 BC. Old Testament Greek Septuagint c. 200 BC. P52 (John Rylands Fragment) - John 18:31-33; 37-38 c. 96 AD P90 (Oxyrhynchus) - John 18:36; 19:7 c. 96 AD P104 (Oxyrhynchus) - Matthew 21:34-37, 43, 45 c. 60-65 AD P46 (Chester Beatty Papyrus) - Romans 5:17-6; 5-14; 8:15-25; 27-35; 10:1-11, 22, 24-33, 35; 16:1-23; 25-27, and Hebrews; 1 & 2; Corinthians; Ephesians; Galatians; Philippians; Colossians; 1 Thessalonians 1:1, 9-10; 2:1-3; 5:5-9, 23-28 c. 50’s-70’s AD P98 (IFAO) - Revelation 1:13; 2:1 c. 90 AD P66 (Bodmer Papyrus) - John 1:1-6,11; 6:35; 14:26; fragment of 14:29; 21:9 c. 100 - 150 AD P67 Matthew 3:9, 15; 5:20-22; 25-28 c. 60-65 AD Evidence also comes from the Dead Sea Scrolls Cave 7. Jose Callahan discovered a large fragment of the Gospel of Mark and dated it to have been written in A.D. 50. Also large fragments of Acts and other epistles and dated them to have been written slightly after A.D. 54 Another line of evidence is the writings of the church fathers: CLEMENT of Rome sent a letter to the Corinthian church in A.D. 95. in which he quoted from the Gospels and other portions of the N.T. IGNATIUS, Bishop of Antioch, wrote a letter before his martyrdom in Rome in A.D. 115, quoting all the Gospels and other N.T. letters. POLYCARP wrote to the Philippians in A.D. 120 and quoted from the Gospels and N.T. letters. JUSTIN MARTYR, A.D. 150 quotes John 3. Church fathers of the early second century were familiar with the apostle's writings and quoted them as inspired Scripture. Early dating is important for two reasons. The closer a historical record is to the date of the event, the more likely the record is accurate. Early dating allows for eyewitnesses to still be alive when the Gospels were circulating to attest to their accuracy. The apostles often appeal to the witness of the hostile crowd, pointing to their knowledge of the facts as well (Acts 2:22, 26:26). Also, the time is too short for legends to develop. Historians agree it takes at least two generations, or eighty+ years, for legendary accounts to establish themselves. From the evidence, we can conclude the Gospels were indeed written by the authors they are attributed to. The First Fully Bound Bible Books/Codices: Codex Vaticanus: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 280 - 330 AD Codex Siniaticus: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 300 - 350 AD Codex Alexandrius: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 350 - 400 AD Codex Vulgate: Origin 1st century M/S - first Codex, 380 - 400 AD Jesus and the Jews were multilingual: "Pilate had a placard prepared in 3 languages and fastened to the cross. It read: 'JESUS Of NAZARETH, THE KING Of THE JEWS'. Many of the Jews read this sign, the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin/Greek, (John 19:19-20). The Gospels were written in Koine Greek being the World's language in the 1st century. The Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (Septuagint) c.200 BC for the many Greek speaking Jews. It is well known that first-century Jerusalem was inhabited by Greek speaking Jews who were at least bilingual. Jesus Himself was at least trilingual apart from the ability to read minds. The original Gospels, autographs, were written in Koine Greek and sent throughout the then known world.. Jewish culture was heavily influenced by Hellenistic culture, and Koine Greek was used not only for international communication but also as the first language of many Jews. This development was furthered by the fact that the largest Jewish community in the world at that time lived in Ptolemaic Alexandria. GOD Protects His Sacred Words: "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed". "As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed". (Galatians 1:8-9). Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." (Matt 24:35). God protects His Word & Gospels and warns of antichrists. (1John2:22). Christ's Good News of Salvation, His Birth, Crucifixion and Resurrection hasn't changed for over 2000 years. The Gospels are evidenced by internal and external historical, archeological & literary facts. The Gospels are reliable and transparent with any variations in translations transparently referenced in the footnotes. The Gospels have 1000 times more manuscripts than the most documented ancient literature, (Greco-Roman historian Suetonius). The Bible is the most comprehensive and reliable source of 1st century Jerusalem history and being used by archaeologists to support research today. Num 6:24-26
@MHMDmeansJesu234Christ
@MHMDmeansJesu234Christ Ай бұрын
Thanks much for this very large helpful list.
@KeysmanJax
@KeysmanJax Ай бұрын
Thank you brother ❤️. All Glory to the Most High!
@user-ye5fx3ep1l
@user-ye5fx3ep1l Ай бұрын
I wish you could make KZfaq video with all this information and shut down the argument for once and for all!!!
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit Ай бұрын
@@user-ye5fx3ep1l I have a move coming in August but after that if I feel moved to create videos I will. For right now these comment sections and the 9900 or so characters I can leave in them are what He's provided. Num 6:24-26 for you, yours and all those around you...
@thetabletopskirmisher
@thetabletopskirmisher 28 күн бұрын
Thank you! Please go and remind Bart Ehrmann of these facts he's so conveniently 'forgotten'
@ihearttubing
@ihearttubing 29 күн бұрын
Islam is collapsing under the weight of the shining light of truth and righteous ridicule.
@atheistuk8686
@atheistuk8686 27 күн бұрын
Allahu was Muhammad's creation for all his personal needs and Desires,, if he want anything,, he is delivering message in the name of Allah,,, infact both are one.
@latasha9898
@latasha9898 27 күн бұрын
Not in the UK it appears
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@nataliavinsensia7314
@nataliavinsensia7314 22 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092hei you, read the whole paragraph... John 17 is a paragraph... how about John 17:5 ? What does it says? ...
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 Ай бұрын
So does this mean 9 is not adult? Just asking for my abdool friend who is in search of his 4th wife.
@rebelos2581
@rebelos2581 Ай бұрын
Grateful for all your hard work, commitment and love! God bless you!
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 24 күн бұрын
’I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8) "In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning" (John 1:1). Jesus not alpha and omega. only one true is Alpha and Omega
@jdp5271989
@jdp5271989 Ай бұрын
I was in a youtube live chat and I mentioned that Mecca and Medina did not exist in 622ad. Am I miss quoting the information I have heard?
@pfanderfilms
@pfanderfilms Ай бұрын
Mecca didn't exist, but Medina did, though it was called Yathrib at that time.
@jdp5271989
@jdp5271989 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the correction. Im getting deeper into my polemics against Islam. I wish I went to college for this stuff!
@sasa_sasa_sasa230
@sasa_sasa_sasa230 Ай бұрын
​@@jdp5271989well i have a lot of examples of plagiarisms in islam. I can give you.
@lydiaanello6208
@lydiaanello6208 Ай бұрын
The Islamic professor would have lied to you ​@@jdp5271989
@karenthompson1337
@karenthompson1337 Ай бұрын
@@jdp5271989if you are a Christian you can take Dr. Jay’s excellent Masters class thru Veritas University. I’m a current student. There are 3 levels- 1. For the full degree 2. An audit student 3. Personal enrichment. I highly recommend!!!
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 Ай бұрын
Excellent summary, just what the laity needs. When you examine all the 7th century data, it is obvious that the Muhammad of Islam is a myth, concocted in the 8th-11th centuries. Yes, that myth was predicated upon one or more real people who did live in the 7th century, but they did not reside in Mecca or promote a new religion called Islam. Thank you, gentlemen. Future generations will call you blessed for helping to expose the lies of Islam.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 , HOW MANY TIMES will you copy-paste this refuted BS??? READ ALL OF JOHN, which says that JESUS IS GOD over and over again! Read on to John 17:5, where Jesus claims to be ETERNAL!!! Reporting your comment as a lie.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
myth is father Christmas and tree and eater rabbit all pagan etc
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
Exodus 33:20 ► But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” Jesus never said hes God and all prophet like Jesus never he is God
@trevornunn3285
@trevornunn3285 26 күн бұрын
Bible and Quran: total dung, both of them
@trinitymatrix9719
@trinitymatrix9719 Ай бұрын
This was BEAUTIFUL guys 💚❤✝
@exmuslimAlonzoHarris
@exmuslimAlonzoHarris Ай бұрын
When talking to an abdul: Q. Is the injil the 4 Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Abdul: no, the injil was a revelation given to Jesus Q. What are the qurans? Abdul: The qurans are the revelations given to muhummud Q. So why do abduls accept the qurans from hafs, warsh and doori? Abdul: 👺
@abj136
@abj136 27 күн бұрын
Injeel or gospel was in a sense transmitted from Jesus via his 12 disciples and recorded in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.
@freethinker3054
@freethinker3054 27 күн бұрын
​@@abj136MuhMad follower abdul spotted 😂
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
bible is not BY its according Mathew Luke.etc fake. you putting faith in book that good be this or that. that way its got contradictions. show me were Jesus said hes God . They made God in to white man to worship
@nicodemusserpico77
@nicodemusserpico77 Ай бұрын
BRILLIANT! As an Orthodox knowing that Christian saints of the time have argued against MohomoD and islame, I find it difficult to completely buy into this narrative. But with that being said, I'm certainly an evidence-based person myself (as is my quantitative empirical research on how Hollywood has adversely portrayed Christian symbols and terms for over half a century), so this was quite compelling! Keep on keepin' on!!! +++ PS: I know Mel has given me permission to clip and post segments in the past, but I don't remember explicitly getting that from you. I would love to be able to make a short of what is said at the 25 minute marker about how they did not have TV back then, so everyone had their own opinion. -NAILED IT.
@pfanderfilms
@pfanderfilms Ай бұрын
Feel free to post whatever you need
@nicodemusserpico77
@nicodemusserpico77 Ай бұрын
@@pfanderfilms Thank you!!!
@abj136
@abj136 27 күн бұрын
@@nicodemusserpico77 Consider the idea that the heresy those saints condemned differed in major details from what it became today. So when they write against Islam, don’t assume it was the story from Mecca, because at first it came out of Baghdad and area.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@mapachetapatio
@mapachetapatio Ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this ... Excellent Idea ... It is very useful to have a synthesis.
@remolapetr8461
@remolapetr8461 Ай бұрын
Dobrý den , sledují vás delší dobu i na jiných foréch a mám takové tušení že jste právě odpálili nejničivější munici všech dob. Děkují za vše co jste řekli a věřím že i řeknete.Remola Petr😇
@user-tq3gv9vs2g
@user-tq3gv9vs2g 23 күн бұрын
This is also a quote on Song of Songs 5:16 by St. Augustine: "A person of God should so appear and conduct himself that there would be no one who would not desire to see him, no one who would not wish to hear him, no one who, having seen him, would not believe that he was a son of God. In his case the prophetic words would be fulfilled: “His throat is most sweet, and he is all lovely.” - "On the Christian Life 9"
@user-yy3vd9vx7y
@user-yy3vd9vx7y Ай бұрын
Thank you for your very hard work❗️💪✝️🌎
@hambam7533
@hambam7533 Ай бұрын
air tight presentation great job gentleman
@exmuslimAlonzoHarris
@exmuslimAlonzoHarris Ай бұрын
The great shakes of islam: 1. muhummud hijab - "golden shower boy" shake 2. ali dawah - "marry my 9 year old daughter" shake 3. mansewer - shake waffler 4. hashim - "naked does not mean naked" shake 5. siraaj - table cloth shake 6. hamza - "Jesus is not my Messiah" shake 7. yasir qadi - "holes in the narrative" shake 8. zakir naik - "those who eat pig behave like pig" shake 9. farida - "moon miracle eyewitnesses were asleep at night" shake 10. Fat shake at speakers corner - milkshake 11. uthman - shake footnote
@_random_dude
@_random_dude Ай бұрын
Good comment Alonzo.
@henryknox4511
@henryknox4511 Ай бұрын
You forgot Shake D'jer Bhouti.
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 Ай бұрын
Very funny & very valid points.
@karenthompson1337
@karenthompson1337 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣excellent 😊
@Kiwifactor46
@Kiwifactor46 Ай бұрын
Islam is on shakey ground.
@ross3818
@ross3818 Ай бұрын
I can't help it but whenever i read PBUH, I think "peanut butter".
@CosplayEternity
@CosplayEternity Ай бұрын
Hahaha thank you for ruining it for everyone
@Leo-yx7rk
@Leo-yx7rk Ай бұрын
It's not "P*n1s Be Up Him"?
@colvinator1611
@colvinator1611 Ай бұрын
Indeed ! There's much more substance in peanut butter.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 Ай бұрын
Peanut butter is far better than Momo.
@patmcd2583
@patmcd2583 26 күн бұрын
I always imagine "Police Be Upon Him" for what he did to that little girl Aisha.
@kongziarusu8518
@kongziarusu8518 28 күн бұрын
July 10th = 100th Birthday of the Cairo Edition Hafs Qur'an.
@exmuslimAlonzoHarris
@exmuslimAlonzoHarris Ай бұрын
Contradiction in the qurans: sura 6:115 says nobody can change the words of allah sura 2.75 says the Jews changed the words of allah.
@George-iv1hi
@George-iv1hi Ай бұрын
Don't look for any logic in islamic utter madness.
@mo_51_married_aisha_6
@mo_51_married_aisha_6 Ай бұрын
And Allah told Muhammad to consult the Christians and Jews when in doubt.😳😳
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@RashidYoosoof
@RashidYoosoof 24 күн бұрын
@@exmuslimAlonzoHarris One is referring to the torah that has been changed with many versions, the fulfiiled version is referring to Quran that cannot be changed as it remained as the only version.
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever Ай бұрын
This one goes into the bookmarks!
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 Ай бұрын
Whenever I watch these videos I see Jay's brown book case in the background. I have exactly the same book case. Not distracting from the information, just something my eyes zero in on.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
.John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@georgelopez3146
@georgelopez3146 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your work.
@user-ox4iu8qz1k
@user-ox4iu8qz1k Ай бұрын
Jesus ❤❤❤
@simonhengle8316
@simonhengle8316 Ай бұрын
Mel I think it might be worth asking Prof. Dr R Kerr if his thoughts about Mohammad being based on Heraclius, was to do with the Hadiths, and why like Edouard M. Gallez & Antoine Moussali he thought the Mohammad in the Qurans were interpolations? Great series btw👍
@benjaminchandler1177
@benjaminchandler1177 Ай бұрын
Could you point me in the direction for more about that? My googling brought up little.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@napoleonlaguerre5587
@napoleonlaguerre5587 27 күн бұрын
Christ is King, Christ is king, and Christ is king
@user-mc9ds8kn6s
@user-mc9ds8kn6s 25 күн бұрын
Ha Shem [G-d ALMIGHTY] is King of the Universes not Jesus.🎉❤
@kevinadamson5768
@kevinadamson5768 24 күн бұрын
Depends which fairy book you read. You can't possibly believe everything written in them ancient books is truthful do you.? 😊
@user-mc9ds8kn6s
@user-mc9ds8kn6s 24 күн бұрын
@@kevinadamson5768 * Do you honestly expect someone to take your question seriously? Your comment is highly disrespectful.
@napoleonlaguerre5587
@napoleonlaguerre5587 24 күн бұрын
@@kevinadamson5768 and The Whole islamic's ideology is totally bull shit
@kevinadamson5768
@kevinadamson5768 24 күн бұрын
@@user-mc9ds8kn6s in what way it's what I believe, religion was created when the first conman met the first fool. Are you that fool?
@leawilliams8476
@leawilliams8476 Ай бұрын
What I would like to learn more about is the similarity between the Talmud and Islam.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@user-mc9ds8kn6s
@user-mc9ds8kn6s 25 күн бұрын
Talmud is not preached in Jewish synagogue as Holy Scriptures because it's not. The Talmud is explanation and clarification of the Tanaach by the Rabbis who wrote it down over the centuries.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 25 күн бұрын
John 5:30 ► By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Jesus not God. he was prophet of one true God All saying of Jesus is to worship one true God
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 25 күн бұрын
@@user-mc9ds8kn6s John 5:30 ► By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Jesus not God. he was prophet of one true God All saying of Jesus is to worship one true God
@SalaiThangte
@SalaiThangte 26 күн бұрын
Thanks. God bless you and your ministry
@CosmicalChrist
@CosmicalChrist Ай бұрын
Thanks Dr Jay but pls can you make a written material for all this arguments/topics. *This will really really really really help.* Thanks a lot and GOG bless 🙏🙏🙏
@pfanderfilms
@pfanderfilms Ай бұрын
It's all summarized in the description box below the Video
@CosmicalChrist
@CosmicalChrist Ай бұрын
@@pfanderfilms Thanks. But a PDF with all the details from the place - the man - the book would really help me help the Muslims around me 🙏🙏🙏
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@CosmicalChrist
@CosmicalChrist 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 Christians have been reading this before your your profit orchestrated his first heist. So what's your point?
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@pauljansentextor1788lx
@pauljansentextor1788lx Ай бұрын
Great summery guys! I hope that muslims come back home soon!
@MidHigh178
@MidHigh178 17 күн бұрын
Search the truth if you not fear the truth.
@ingoschneuing1073
@ingoschneuing1073 Ай бұрын
In case you may be not aware of Nicholas of Cusa's screening the Qur'an some 500 plus years ago, he will surprise you with many more facts. The latin/english translation is still around. J. Hopkins, Nicholas of Cusa's De pace fidei and Cribratio Alkorani. Translation and Analysis, Minneapolis 1994, 75-189 Some close to 900 pages are found in Ludovico Marrraccio's works Sura by Sura in his book "Refutio Alkorani "from 1896... latin/arabic
@svennielsen633
@svennielsen633 Ай бұрын
How do you know that there has to be a vowel BETWEEN the consonants and not before the first one or after the last one? Is it based on the known vocabulary?
@metagalaxy-go-the-distance
@metagalaxy-go-the-distance Ай бұрын
How much today's Quran is there in earliest manuscripts
@user-yz1dl3eu8l
@user-yz1dl3eu8l Ай бұрын
Muhammad did not exist ( R. Spencer 'Did Muhammad exist?', 2012).
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@DavidHalko
@DavidHalko Ай бұрын
I would not have said Mohammed appears in the Bible, but a Hebrew word [referring to the desired Messiah] was co-opted hundreds of years after Mohammed supposedly lived, to refer to the prophet.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 Ай бұрын
Yep. "Makhmadim" definitely does NOT refer to Muhammad, despite the similarity in sound. That Hebrew word just means "very desirable".
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@ShonMardani
@ShonMardani 27 күн бұрын
Mohammad is the title of the person who owns/in position of the " مهر - Mohr " which means "Sigil, mold for making coin/money, seal, stamp, signet". Prophet Mohammad started his own Arab nation.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
Exodus 33:20 ► But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” Jesus never said hes God and all prophet like Jesus never he is God
@e_Dilbert
@e_Dilbert 26 күн бұрын
great work guys!
@gavinadams4572
@gavinadams4572 Ай бұрын
Yeah ive been following for a while and got a simple understanding of the material you present but i lose track of the names and such.
@phillipbradshaw
@phillipbradshaw Ай бұрын
All this needs to be said in Arabic.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@tinasturgeon7087
@tinasturgeon7087 17 күн бұрын
Thank you for everything you have done to prove truth, 🙏🙏🙏
@armageddon1434
@armageddon1434 Ай бұрын
Where can I get the manuscripts facsimiles you have?
@jerichothirteen1134
@jerichothirteen1134 Ай бұрын
I thought it might be a confabulation of Ghenghis Khan. They have alot of similarity in life and appearance.
@commissary4196
@commissary4196 Ай бұрын
A lot*
@jerichothirteen1134
@jerichothirteen1134 Ай бұрын
@@commissary4196 who are you the typo police? Ass wipe.
@ThatsSoRachel
@ThatsSoRachel 24 күн бұрын
but if they were going to make up a prophet, wouldn't they make a better one? the stories about him are embarrassing showing him in the worst light ever.
@minayowitz3268
@minayowitz3268 20 күн бұрын
That was the crux of the online debate between David Wood and Jay a few years back. I guess the wanted the right people to recognize Muhammad as a fake prophet.
@Tee-roni
@Tee-roni 18 күн бұрын
No muslim agrees with that, they think their profit is perfect and they think their book is perfect they don't have a problem with any single thing in their book because it justifies their behavior even today. Violence, child diddling, sex with multiple wives, extortion, etc, etc, etc. This is why Islam is a problem today
@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185
@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185 5 күн бұрын
😂 good question. Then you next step sister is to read and research for yourself and it won't take a day or two till you post another interesting question
@jana_d2264
@jana_d2264 Ай бұрын
Do you plan to wtite a book about this topic?
@dianadisney4431
@dianadisney4431 22 күн бұрын
So proud of these men of God
@OrdoMallius
@OrdoMallius Ай бұрын
Don't forget the Dome of the Rock inscriptions.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
don't forget bible its not BY its according to Mathew and Luke ,john etc full contradictions biggest one were did Jesus say his God
@jenna.hill712
@jenna.hill712 26 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The word of God is the creator of the universe and is not created: Psalm 33:6 By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, And by the breath of His mouth all their lights. From the same gospel book you quoted from, there are plenty of passages suggesting the divinity of Jesus: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 8:56 Your father Abraham was overjoyed that he would see My day, and he saw it and rejoiced.” 57 So the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM.”
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 26 күн бұрын
suggesting Jesus ? everything could Be and wat If . God said be and it is
@casta9172
@casta9172 29 күн бұрын
This needs to be translated into Arabic language so more people can be reached,, this is Gold... Muslims, the truth shall set you free.. Jesus Christ is Almighty God 🙌🏻 You've been lied to for many years,, it's time to expose the entire falsehood of Islam
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit 26 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 Below Jesus the Christ is flatly stating He is the same LORD God of all creation, of the Old Testament found in the New Testament in His own Words, describing Himself. Rev 1:8, Rev 1:17b, Rev 2:8, Rev 21:6, Rev 22:13 are all direct quotes from Jesus describing exactly Who and What He is. He is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last which are titles the LORD God of all creation uses many times in the Old Testament to describe Himself. We have Isa 41:6 which is just one example and there are many more. All of those titles or names only refer to the LORD and yet Jesus claims them for Himself, what should that tell you? In Isa 9:6 we see the Father Himself using titles and names that should only apply to Him being given to His Son, Jhn 3:16-17. So not only did Jesus claim titles and names such as these that should only ever be used to refer to the Father, the LORD God of all creation Himself used them to describe Jesus the Christ. The lies that Jesus the Christ never described or claimed to be God are ridiculous and unfounded as I've proven above in His own Words. These references are just from the Book of the Revelation of Jesus the Christ and there are many, many more than this recorded all throughout the New Testament, Jhn 3:16-17. His question to Philip, Jhn 14:9-11, in which He tells us anyone who's seen Him has seen the Father. His testimony of Himself before the Sanhedrin and Pilot, Mar 14:62 Luk 22:61:70, Luk 23:3 and many more. The truth that He states in Jhn 6:44-51, Jhn 14:6 are all absolute truth and found only in Scripture. Jesus absolutely described Himself and claimed He was the LORD, they're all one, Jhn 10:30. There are many warnings in Scripture that tell us not to deny Him, 2 Tim 2:12, Tit 1:16, Hebrews 10:29-31 and many, many more. Numbers 6:24-26 for you, yours and all those around you...
@MidHigh178
@MidHigh178 17 күн бұрын
Jesus is prophet of God . He is not God dont fool yourself research it .There is only one God .Not three but one🤔.Search the truth if u not fear the truth.
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit 16 күн бұрын
@@MidHigh178 Below Jesus the Christ is flatly stating He is the same LORD God of all creation, of the Old Testament found in the New Testament in His own Words, describing Himself. (Rev 1:8, Rev 1:17b, Rev 2:8, Rev 21:6, Rev 22:13), are all direct quotes from Jesus describing exactly Who and What He is. He is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last which are titles the LORD God of all creation uses many times in the Old Testament to describe Himself. We have, (Isa 41:6), which is just one example and there are many more. All of those titles or names only refer to the LORD and yet Jesus claims them for Himself, what should that tell you? In Isa 9:6 we see the Father Himself using titles and names that should only apply to Him being given to His Son, (Jhn 3:16-17). So not only did Jesus claim titles and names such as these that should only ever be used to refer to the Father, the LORD God of all creation Himself used them to describe Jesus the Christ. The lies that Jesus the Christ never described or claimed to be God are ridiculous and unfounded as I've proven above in His own Words. Those references are just from the Book of the Revelation of Jesus the Christ and there are many, many more than this recorded all throughout the New Testament. His question to Philip, (Jhn 14:9-11), in which He tells us anyone who's seen Him has seen the Father. His testimony of Himself before the Sanhedrin and Pilot, (Mar 14:62 Luk 22:61:70, Luk 23:3 &more). The truth that He states in, (Jhn 6:44-51, Jhn 14:6), are all absolute truth and found only in Scripture. Jesus absolutely described Himself and claimed He was the LORD, they're all one, (Jhn 10:30). There are many warnings in Scripture that tell us not to deny Him, (2 Tim 2:12, Tit 1:16, Heb 10:29-31), and many, many more. Jesus and Scripture tells us we must love our neighbors as ourselves, (Mat 19:19, Mat 22:39, Mar 12:31, Mar 12:33, Rom 13:9, Rom 13:10, Gal 5:14, Jas 2:8 &more). Answer this is it loving to tax, enslave, pillage, grape and kill your neighbor? AND Do it because of some so called god without a name? Numbers 6:24-26 for you, yours and all those around you...
@bettymofokeng3404
@bettymofokeng3404 21 күн бұрын
Interesting to listen to Dr Jay research in a subject he is talking about 👌🏻you are marvel to listen to, very informative
@jaju710
@jaju710 Ай бұрын
Mel & Jay, is this research conclusion on MHMD a noble addition to knowledge which is fit for submission as a PhD thesis?
@latasha9898
@latasha9898 27 күн бұрын
If you were going to create a mythical prophet, surely he would have a wholesome nature. Mohamed of the Quran had very damning things written down about him. I accept that the writings came much later, but find it hard to believe it was made up entirely. Surely there was a man who's child bride picked the dried semen off his clothes. Maybe this man was not called Mohamed though. Could the stories be an accumulation of many people?
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 27 күн бұрын
You're assuming other people have your values?
@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185
@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185 5 күн бұрын
Good question it seems his projection doesn't sound convincing. That shocking part of it. Imagine the so called followers of this created figure ate today 2Billion+ mostly non Arabs and willing to die for the faith. These followers don't take disrespectful towards that person as we see today people mocking Jesus and feel freely, To the extend that those followers of that created persona are willing to also defend Jesus and his reputation. All these to say that person never existed. The legacy Left by Muhammad PBUH Quran is memorized cover to cover 600+ pages 1236 verses by millions of people across the globe. I feel there's something you need to search for yourself
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 5 күн бұрын
@@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185 the 1924 version of the Quran?
@latasha9898
@latasha9898 5 күн бұрын
@@izharulhaqtruthrevealed1185 It's called indoctrination and being sucked into a cult. Just because vast numbers of people do it doesn't make it real. I've done immense amounts of research on the topic. Islam is false. The Quran and Hadith prove it themselves. Repeating it's verses over and over in Arabic won't make it any more real I'm afraid.
@OmarBenjumea
@OmarBenjumea 24 күн бұрын
These clowns spent many videos insulting Prophet Muhammad, and now they decided he did not exist. The main goal is views, i.e. money.
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins 22 күн бұрын
First, he didn't exist. Second, he couldn't be a prophet because the message is doctored and false. So in this situation, how can a fake and fictional character be "insulted"? Is he alive? Where is he?
@travelswithted673
@travelswithted673 26 күн бұрын
Amazing video, thank you
@jakeney7174
@jakeney7174 Ай бұрын
Brother Jay do you have a website with all the papers and books which you used for each subject? Like all the series you do with Al Fadi too? Would be interesting to have a forum where researchers can share info and debate
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@RashidYoosoof
@RashidYoosoof 16 күн бұрын
The primary communications was from the Angel Gabriel to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) which was verbally or orally transmitted. The Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) over 23 years. Given the low literacy rates of the time, it was initially memorized and transmitted orally by the Prophet's companions. Surah Al-Qiyamah (75:17-18) states: "Indeed, upon Us is its collection [in your heart] and [to make possible] its recitation. So when We have recited it [through Gabriel], then follow its recitation." Oral transmission is still conducted until present day, teacher to students and students back to the teachers in many Islamic Quranic classes. We call this recitations. Recitations without referring to any written books were conducted in mass prayers. The entire Quran is recited in the month of Ramadan around the world.
@noubarnoubar4072
@noubarnoubar4072 4 күн бұрын
Dr. Jay Smith do you have a written Book about Islam that i can buy.
@alanspencer9337
@alanspencer9337 Ай бұрын
Where is the playlist for this series?
@karenthompson1337
@karenthompson1337 Ай бұрын
On Pfander Films Channel
@alanspencer9337
@alanspencer9337 25 күн бұрын
@@karenthompson1337 I looked in the playlists already
@HenrikRClausen
@HenrikRClausen 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for finally doing a (reasonably) long video about this! I've been seeing the short 10-15 minute snippets roll by, but can't take my time to navigate all those short clips. Now I've watched it, shared it - and have only one suggestion: How about doing a two-hour version with much more detail in it.?
@amjidhuss1092
@amjidhuss1092 27 күн бұрын
John 17:3 ► Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. these clear verse say jesus not God . if that was case all prophets would told us coming of god in man. Jesus never said hes God himself. and world lord in old texts mean getting closer to God. there verses word was flesh and i before Abraham hard to understand and could mean anything but clear verse Jesus says there is only one True God.
@jonnydoe85
@jonnydoe85 27 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 The Prophet Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit 26 күн бұрын
@@amjidhuss1092 Below Jesus the Christ is flatly stating He is the same LORD God of all creation, of the Old Testament found in the New Testament in His own Words, describing Himself. Rev 1:8, Rev 1:17b, Rev 2:8, Rev 21:6, Rev 22:13 are all direct quotes from Jesus describing exactly Who and What He is. He is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last which are titles the LORD God of all creation uses many times in the Old Testament to describe Himself. We have Isa 41:6 which is just one example and there are many more. All of those titles or names only refer to the LORD and yet Jesus claims them for Himself, what should that tell you? The lies that Jesus the Christ never described or claimed to be God are ridiculous and unfounded as I've proven above in His own Words. These references are just from the Book of the Revelation of Jesus the Christ and there are many, many more than this recorded all throughout the New Testament, Jhn 3:16-17. His question to Philip, Jhn 14:9-11, in which He tells us anyone who's seen Him has seen the Father. His testimony of Himself before the Sanhedrin and Pilot, Mar 14:62 Luk 22:61:70, Luk 23:3 and many more. The truth that He states in Jhn 6:44-51, Jhn 14:6 are all absolute truth and found only in Scripture. Jesus absolutely described Himself and claimed He was the LORD. There are many warnings in Scripture that tell us not to deny Him, 2 Tim 2:12, Tit 1:16, Hebrews 10:29-31 and many, many more. Numbers 6:24-26 for you, yours and all those around you...
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit 26 күн бұрын
@@jonnydoe85 Well said brother. These are titles and names that should refer only to the LORD God of all creation and yet here we see the Father bestow them on His Son...
@sushilverma3209
@sushilverma3209 22 күн бұрын
blasting information
@watchman2866
@watchman2866 28 күн бұрын
When is the book coming out? 😊
@sheikhboyardee556
@sheikhboyardee556 Ай бұрын
I wonder why a researcher would continue to write books that completely ignore the absence of diacritic marks. Without these marks the meaning of the phrases is completely changed. Very odd it it means that the author loses credibility.
@rockzalt
@rockzalt Ай бұрын
Ironically Muhammad is the elephant in the room today. I would have thought that linguistically the pronunciation can be figured out from references during the relevant time period from foreign sources. They would be eyewitnesses or more precisely earwitnesses to the pronunciation or possible pronunciationS of those four letters. There are two ways to use the word "ass" and I suspect numerous Muslims won't be thinking of the nice one when they *associate* it with Mel and Jay.
@TohouBohou
@TohouBohou 28 күн бұрын
What is the story about Angels and Clay From the Sky in Jérusalem ?
@earlscottchambers4280
@earlscottchambers4280 Ай бұрын
Is there a person that can give us the verbal reading of the Arabic scripts of the 6th - 7th century?
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit Ай бұрын
Not without them basically guessing at where the vowels go in every single word. The other problem is there are no Arabic texts from the 6th century unless you're talking about very late or at the dawn of the 7th century.
@earlscottchambers4280
@earlscottchambers4280 Ай бұрын
I am sure those scripts that were written without vowels were spoken according to the way it was pronounced prior to vowels. Is there anyone who can verbalize it for us?
@PastorwithoutaPulpit
@PastorwithoutaPulpit Ай бұрын
@@earlscottchambers4280 Sorry, that's the problem we can have no degree of certainty as to the accuracy. I wish there was but there just isn't anyway to know for sure because it isn't in the writings themselves. Hope that makes sense as I'm finding it hard to explain in cold hard text.
@robertjanssens4381
@robertjanssens4381 23 күн бұрын
Hello Mel, thank you for your fabulous work, a question comes to mind: from what point in Islamic works do we find the first name of Muhammad? do we have any writings, books, poems, etc....mentioning this name before the coming of Muhammad ? is this not proof that this first name was “invented” especially for the advent of Muhammad? Thanks again for everything you do. Be blessed.
@torrinolte8280
@torrinolte8280 26 күн бұрын
Not sure if it was one of Jay’s, but I think I saw a video once that said Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Quran. Is this true?
@wileyvet815
@wileyvet815 22 күн бұрын
Yes.
@RashidYoosoof
@RashidYoosoof 23 күн бұрын
Literacy rates were very low in the olden days. Wriiten texts were secondary as most people spread the Abrahamic scriptures by word of mouth. Billions memorised the Quran with fact-check recitations indivudually and in groups especially in Ramadan when the entire Quran was recited. Those who were able to read later on, had experienced of the spoken words including recitations. All Muslims must announce the Syahada. It sounds this way. أَشْهَدُ أَنْ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰهُ وَأَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰهِ Transliteration: Ashhadu an lā ilāha illā Allāh, wa ashhadu anna Muḥammadan rasūlu Allāh. I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
@MichaelPetek
@MichaelPetek Ай бұрын
Is Muhammad a nom de guerre similar to El Cid?
@beirbua3968
@beirbua3968 5 күн бұрын
outstanding thanks from Ireland
@adeagbooluwatosin3996
@adeagbooluwatosin3996 22 күн бұрын
Believe in Jesus for eternal life assurance
@karmacounselor
@karmacounselor 29 күн бұрын
I would like a cliff notes thing and I will call seminaries with this!!!
@BillSikes.
@BillSikes. 26 күн бұрын
Its true, ive spent years studying this subject, he never existed at all!
@SEnricoPIndiogine
@SEnricoPIndiogine 28 күн бұрын
Mel please expand on the connection between MHMD and Bishop Ambrosius of Milan. He wrote in Latin, so how can you make this connection? Did he use an equivalent term? Also, please look into HMD and Daniel chapter 10. We have the angel Gabriel giving a revelation to Daniel who is called in Hebrew a term very closely related to MHMD. There is also a connection between the Jerusalem Temple and HMD. Jesus is the new temple for Christians. Thanks.
@getevennow
@getevennow 23 күн бұрын
Did you deep dive into the Vatican Archives - or Archives of the Russian Republics ?
@L-do7pe
@L-do7pe 27 күн бұрын
Muhammads real name can be referred to Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim So any reference of the placeholder name Muhammad in the Quran is talking about the prophets real name above?
@nutherdisciple
@nutherdisciple Ай бұрын
Who was the leader of the invasion of andalusia, or spain, and who did Charles Martel fight against in the Battle of Tours?
@SEnricoPIndiogine
@SEnricoPIndiogine 29 күн бұрын
Probably a Monophysite/Arian Christian close to the Ummayads.
@aquariusn6496
@aquariusn6496 Ай бұрын
I believe it's a title that they used for Umar ibn kattab. Also, the Shia sources are better than Sunni. Look into Shia books they are more historical.
@thedude9024
@thedude9024 Ай бұрын
I agree 100 per cent. Mohammed was the title given to Omar by the Hagarenes of Babylonia.
@bettymofokeng3404
@bettymofokeng3404 21 күн бұрын
Dr Jay your conclusion 👌🏻 invitation to the Truth, Christ ❤
@Tom531Cat
@Tom531Cat 24 күн бұрын
Well this has been educational.
@trojanhman8136
@trojanhman8136 25 күн бұрын
Very good.
@riasatmobashar9205
@riasatmobashar9205 26 күн бұрын
O Glory HALLELULUJAH! O Glory to The Lord Jesus Christ who is THE KING OF GLORY! Thank you, Dear Brothers MEL and Dr. JAY! I have watched some of the previous episode of this EXCELLENT series and happy to watch the CONCLUSION! O Glory HALLELUJAH! The Lord Jesus Christ bless you both more abundantly! Please keep up the good witness for HIS GLORY!
@RashidYoosoof
@RashidYoosoof 23 күн бұрын
Remove the letter J since it was created in the 16th century then try to say Ya Allah Ya Allah Ya Allah Ya Allah and eventually it will sound Hali LuYa. The name Muhamad is one and Allah is One. In Christianity there are so many versions. Isho, Isa, Yesho, Yeshua, Jesus and now the latest trends among the Western world Jeez!
@riasatmobashar9205
@riasatmobashar9205 23 күн бұрын
@rashidYoosoof, You just DOCUMENTED and GLOBALLY (www) ADVERTISED the same IGNORANCE and BASELESS CLAIMS that ALL SLAVES of ALLAH make! May The Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on YOU!
@MaverickSeventySeven
@MaverickSeventySeven 8 күн бұрын
If there were "no vowels in the 7th century" then what of the word 'Isl a m'!?
@imankhandaker6103
@imankhandaker6103 27 күн бұрын
Funny because there is a really detailed biography, just three panels below you! Perhaps you should introduce yourselves to each other?
@jdub6909
@jdub6909 28 күн бұрын
It's called a " term of endearment," That is what this phrase is.
@user-ve8mb2lo7l
@user-ve8mb2lo7l 23 күн бұрын
Please i request the spokesperson please translate in hindi then everybody understand what is the fact about islam
@alhampton1211
@alhampton1211 28 күн бұрын
Jay, i am confused….at minute 29 you mention 1400 BC, and Moses…then you say “picked up by the Jews” in (about) 1000 AD….I assume, of course, you meant 1000 BC, not AD. But I do not see a correction by you…unless it comes later in this video (because I simply stopped it to write this). Thanks, so much. AL H
@mariamachee1438
@mariamachee1438 11 күн бұрын
Is there a real Muhammad please stand Up ⬆️ 😂😂😂 I love it!!
@ariefsheik1716
@ariefsheik1716 25 күн бұрын
Mathew 5.17 Jesus said he did not come to abolish the laws of prophets but to keep, so keep them Christians. And Jay was also not around
@RashidYoosoof
@RashidYoosoof 23 күн бұрын
Yes, Jay and the rest should revisit who is following the Abrahamic Religions. Surah Al-Ikhlas (Chapter 112) rhymes with the first two of the ten commandments. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. 1. Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, 2. Allah, the Eternal Refuge. 3. He neither begets nor is born, 4. Nor is there to Him any equivalent." *The Ten Commandments.* 1. **You shall have no other gods before Me.** 2. **You shall not make for yourself a carved image**-any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. 3. **You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.** 4. **Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.** 5. **Honor your father and your mother.** 6. **You shall not murder.** 7. **You shall not commit adultery.** 8. **You shall not steal.** 9. **You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.** 10. **You shall not covet** your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s. *You break the first two, you are definitely a pagan.*
@ast3663
@ast3663 25 күн бұрын
wow, this was a strong episode..jay going war mode 🙂 amen
@user-hc4re3qf9n
@user-hc4re3qf9n 7 күн бұрын
The funny fact is, if Mohammad was a prophet, why his prophecy is related to the defeat of Persians from Eastern Rome, why Quran is not talking about the groundbreaking triumph of Muslims over Persians and Eastern Romans? Because at the time that Quran was written, Persians were defeated by Eastern Romans but were still in power. This can narrow the timeline that Quran was produced as a Christian text.661-750 CE(The emergence of Umayyads-Emergence of Abbasid Caliphate)
@muhammadavais6247
@muhammadavais6247 23 күн бұрын
Dear brothers & sisters! If you genuinely know about Islam then don't go after these tiktok preists, they will never give you the true picture. Read an authentic translation of Quraan by your self and be absolutely unbiased, and that is the scientific way of research.
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins 22 күн бұрын
Don't worry an authentic translation is just about to published! St Murad's.
@wileyvet815
@wileyvet815 22 күн бұрын
The Koran is garbage.
@jaju710
@jaju710 Ай бұрын
Mahmad or Mahmud?
@dannyroosenboom3640
@dannyroosenboom3640 27 күн бұрын
even written languages evolve over time, so as French , English also arabic
@michaelcummins5214
@michaelcummins5214 27 күн бұрын
My favorite example of word 'morphing' is the word, Nice. Nice originally meant 'Ignorant'' and was then used as a descriptive word for child prostitutes, as in 'She's Nice.' from there it moved to its present meaning i.e. Something pleasant. This change has happened in around 200 years, what can happen to words over 14000-2000 years?
@Kevin.S.Birdwell
@Kevin.S.Birdwell Ай бұрын
Can you tell us the real reason why they left the place of Petra and choose somewhere else?
@urbandsouza7279
@urbandsouza7279 Ай бұрын
To hide the truth
@MHMDmeansJesu234Christ
@MHMDmeansJesu234Christ Ай бұрын
Petra was an Ummayid place. The Abbasids came after, and defeated the Ummayid kingdom. 1. They didn't like the Ummayids. 2. They needed a hero (the Muhammad). Preferably the hero lived "back then, and did marvelous things" (not possible to verify).
@urbandsouza7279
@urbandsouza7279 Ай бұрын
@@MHMDmeansJesu234Christ ummayyed unitarian Christians?
@thedude9024
@thedude9024 Ай бұрын
43km south of Petra is an Abbasid sanctuary named Al Humayma. The legend is dissatisfied non Arab Muslims came to Abu al-Abbas Abd Allah ibn Muhammad ibn Ali ibn Abd Allah home to kick off the Abbasids rebellion in 750/760. The Abbasids claimed legitmacy from al-Abbas whom was Mohammeds uncle. By then, Petra would be in a state of disrepair after earthquakes.
@user-ht8bs1pj6d
@user-ht8bs1pj6d 28 күн бұрын
Massive earthquake that destroyed most of Petra
@irishheritage893
@irishheritage893 21 күн бұрын
Go raibh maith agat Mel and thanks very much Jay. This must be disseminated all over the net and fact to face .
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