+Dave Sarley Your argument doesn't make sense. Both a board game and a movie are sources of entertainment and have a few similarities - story driven, visual, etc. - whereas a Ferrari and a house are not both vehicles. To make your analogy applicable, you'd have to compare a Ferrari to a Camry... which people do, or would if both were an option and money was an issue. Keeping to your analogy, the restrictions you set are so limiting that the equivalent comparison for which you do allow is that a car buyer can only compare cars from the same maker, at best one class, which isn't accurate.

I understand what Dave is stating. The best example I've heard, in regards to comparison, is that this game acts like a DVD player and the modules are like the dvd's, which was stated on "Rahdo Runs Through". It's a lot of money for one short game. You decide its value.

+mgk2020 comparing a Camry to a Ferrari is just silly. And it's not because you can only compare a Ferrari to another Ferrari, as you imply in your limiting statement at the end. You compare a Ferrari to a Lamborghini, or a dodge viper. You compare similar to similar. I think the best comparison is probably to Sherlock Homes Consulting Detective. Legacy games are consumable, and so are non-transferable.

+mgk2020 I hesitated to the add the car/house analogy because a) analogies are easy to pick apart and b) I was concerned it would take away from my original point, which is that defending the TIME Stories model by pointing out more expensive forms of entertainment (which Tom does again in this week's podcast, comparing it to a trip to Universal Studios). For every one of those examples, there's a counter-example, some of which I mentioned in my original comment, and would also include (to build on Gabe's DVD analogy) inviting my friends over to watch a rented movie. You can further magnify the issues with citing cost/time ratios by exaggerating the examples. You wouldn't try to justify TIME Stories if it cost $200 for the base game by pointing out it's cost relative to taking 4 people to Disney World or a Broadway play.

well you sort of did leave yourself open by saying UNO was a valid option.

Dylan McCollum except you can only play those games once, and if your friend already played the game, they don’t want to play it with you.

citmod no You take damage equal to (total skulls - resistance) + heart shields.

I like this explanation a lot m8!

+Popcornio Agreed. I just wonder what the staying power of this game will actually be in the long run. Who knows when they will decide to stop making modules for it and I'm sure that the future sales will be the deciding factor.

***** I think the biggest driving force is gonna be behind the user created stories.

+Popcornio On the French forum Tric trac there are already for weeks (months ?) discussions on how to create home made modules and I think some persons have already submitted their creations to the publisher.

Oddly enough, every single other game is the DVD player and a whole set of movies combined for the same price. Sooooowwww....

+PreppinShootinLivin That si what me and a few friends are going to do. We are 4 people in total and then its more then worth it, but it has to be done by a group that is going to commit to it until the end.

Just did that with Clank Legacy and Machi Koro Legacy. £17.50 each for a ten campaigns is a bargain👊

i realize it is kinda randomly asking but does anybody know a good site to watch new series online ?

correct! :)

If the way escape rooms worked was that 0.001% of groups completed it on their first attempt, and you were kicked out of the room and it was reset between attempts. If you find it fun to continually run through the puzzles you already completed to get to the 'new' stuff, then this game is for you!

+Critical Hit if you have kidsyou will spend more than $50 at movies

+Critical Hit Well, spend $50 bringing 4 people to the movies, since this game plays 4.

There is no theater by me that has $5 tickets. You are fortunate.

Draffut2003 They can buy their own tickets ;) It costs about $15 to see a movie round here ---unless you go to the late show (anything starting after 8pm), then it's about $10. I guess the only way to justify buying this would be to get everyone to chip in...

Ryan Mahon And you're stuck watching a kiddie movie with them too... :(

Is playing this again /akin/*...

Alexandre Turgeon There's a term for those: Choose Your Own Adventure books.

+Andrew Wilson Yes. The cards absolutely need to come out in a very specific order. If you get it second hand, youll want to be very careful to not view the cards... really the only place you should look at a card before you play is on the bottom edge of the back of the card. All the cards in the deck are numbered (and thats where the number is) so techinically if you were extrewmely careful you prob could reorganize them yourself.. But yes, they are in a very specific order.

Okay boomer

+Rob Acton yes the current gaming scene utilises a bastard mish mash of old style board games, D& D, war gaming comics ( similar obsession for collecting) and computer/console games

Gross over exaggeration of this game and under exaggeration of MtG. Magic cost far more than 100$ for a completed newly released set.

nope! It is much darker then that. :)

+Roger Savoy This is a great point. Time Stories isnt consumed like PL is (which I dont mind either). Its like a movie...play now, wait three years and play it again- see how much you remember

+Raphaelus13 watch Rahdo review. He said absolutely NOT a two player game. apparently it loses a lot of teh story telling as in a two player game each player controls two characters

+Ryan Mahon That's just like, his opinion, man. Many people, myself included, like running multiple characters. This can easily and very much with a lot of fun be played with two players.

+Raphaelus13 I'm playing with my wife and it's our favorite game for a long, long time! In fact, it's my wife's favorite of all time (just in front of Caverna, Concordia, Orleans and Viticulture)! It is a blast as a 2 players game!

***** we did play 2 characters each. We didn't role play that much. We were really into the story though! It is really a blast ! In fact, I just bought The Marcy Case ! It is that good IMHO!

+Raphaelus13 We love it with 2! Rahdo is not correct...he just doesn't like to play a co-op with his wife with more than 2 characters.

guinea pig in a box To not ruin the game for people considering buying it.

Do you think it's worth it?

+Sly Sof That's a question only you can answer for yourself. For myself, nope.

Sure, if you like over sexualized females.

+Jesse Haulk the actual game content isnt so heavy on over sexualized females. The pinup series isn't linked to the actual game inany way other than its setting. Infact most of the female armour found in the game is tastefully done.

+GrandElemental Why wouldn't I compare games to movies? An hour of entertainment is an hour of entertainment. The hour I work to earn the money is the same, regardless of how I spend it, so I think it is a fair comparison. How accurate a measure of value it is my vary based on how much one enjoys movies vs board games, but that's true of anything. Assuming you find each equally enjoyable, I think the comparison of cost for time returned is totally fair.

+Mikolaj Witkowski Your argument assumes movies are more repayable, and for you they may be, but for anyone that doesn't watch movies twice, that assumption isn't a differentiating factor. You place a higher inherent value on movie entertainment, it seems, which is fine, but then it also means you aren't the audience addressed by his - or my - comment. Sam was addressing a specific complaint of people that the game isn't worth it because the experience is limited to a certain number of hours. It is a money per hour complaint that he addresses with a money per hour comparison, it doesn't address differences in perceived entertainment quality. If you find movies inherently more entertaining, then his comment wasn't intended for you. Likewise, if you are willing to replay this game several times, his comment wasn't intended for you. I also make it clear that personal preferences in entertainment change the calculus.

I'm saying that an hour of entertainment is an hour of entertainment, so comparing different entertainment options on a cost per hour basis is valid, assuming that one does not find one form of said entertainment more enjoyable than the other. If you find movies more enjoyable than games, then obviously the calculus doesn't work, but I already stipulated that, and I think it was clearly implied in Sam's response as well because he was addressing a specific complaint about value vs time that doesn't include other factors. The complaint he is trying to preempt is that the game isn't worth the money because of the time you get for it, not that other games are worth more because of repeatability. He's not addressing "is this the best value in board gaming?" but "is 6 hours of entertainment worth $50?" He addresses a cost per hour argument with a cost per hour comparison to another form of entertainment and everyone is getting up in arms because they want a cost per play comparison, but cost per play wasn't the question he was addressing. To borrow an analogy from another comment, it's like comparing the mpg of two cars and people complaining that he isn't taking into account how big the tanks are. It's irrelevant to his point that mpg are the same. If he was answering which car is best to buy -or which can drive the furthest - it would matter, but he's not; he's just answering if they get the same efficiency. He's not saying TIME Stories is a better option than movies, he's saying the cost per hour is equivalent to other entertainment options -namely going to a movie. In his opinion, $50 for 6 hours of game play is worth it because it's in line with other entertainment costs, assuming the stipulations I included already in my previous posts.

Maybe for your group. Everyone in my group loved it. Can't wait to play the next module.

Yeah. Did you play Marci Case? I still want to try it. I think it will go over better than the base one.

ToThePointGames its supposed to not be so puzzley so your group might like it better if that was the case? We are going to play it on Tuesday. Can't wait.

I think that was it. That and being new to the game. We also played the correct way. Every play video I have seen, people play it wrong. Please let me know how the marci case was for you!

ToThePointGames yeah couldn't believe how much dice tower got wrong. This is definitely a note taking game. We made sure we got the rules memorised before playing cos you can't keep playing till you get it right. I shall let you know how it goes. If I remember :p

+Subcomandante73 ... so it's like every roleplaying game since the 1970s. At least you can play it, if you bought Advanced Squad Leader you got a binder of rules - and had to start adding modules in order to have maps and game pieces.