Mica Miller's family holds husband 'responsible' for death | Banfield

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28 күн бұрын

An investigation is underway into the death of Mica Miller, a pastor’s wife who was found dead with an alleged self-inflicted gunshot wound. Miller's father, Michael Francis, and sister Destinee Barrientos join NewsNation's "Banfield" exclusively to discuss the latest details in the case.
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@flowersinthefire
@flowersinthefire 25 күн бұрын
I wish everyone would call this what it is, NARCISSISTIC ABUSE!
@bonnielee7134
@bonnielee7134 25 күн бұрын
I know. It needs to be taught in schools, early. They teach about predators: lions and tigers and bears. Well, what about the human predator? They teach about stranger danger. That’s fine, for when they are young, but by age 12, because some children may be exposed to love stories and start thinking about boyfriends/girlfriends as early as that, the education needs to begin and each year advance the education according to age appropriateness. Obviously something like this can be done. Don’t we have professional psychologists, teachers and sociologists that can put a program together? Surely there are high I.Q. People that can manage this.
@bonitobonita9263
@bonitobonita9263 25 күн бұрын
@@bonnielee7134it won’t happen because the big chunks of people in education are narcissists
@user-ux3qu7mr2m
@user-ux3qu7mr2m 25 күн бұрын
We are calling it that !!!
@user-ux3qu7mr2m
@user-ux3qu7mr2m 25 күн бұрын
​@@bonnielee7134 We used to do that but it hurt the feelings of kids who were them human types. Kids are mean, it's not a good idea .
@slange455
@slange455 25 күн бұрын
Maybe so but she was weak should have moved on and never looked back ….thats what you have to do in relationships like this …very sad
@LexieRaye2
@LexieRaye2 25 күн бұрын
I don't care if that guy was supposedly in another state; he's clearly a danger to society.
@carlf.9035
@carlf.9035 25 күн бұрын
There's also no proof he was in another state. Someone else could've been driving his truck. Somehow we're all asking more questions than the police.
@carmellaffan6654
@carmellaffan6654 25 күн бұрын
Imo I recon his some how lured her to that place she was found. Wether it's by him or one of his friends. She's bought the gun to protect herself at the meeting.
@carlf.9035
@carlf.9035 25 күн бұрын
@@carmellaffan6654 Yes I agree very possible. It was definitely not a suicide in my opinion.
@a.humphries8678
@a.humphries8678 25 күн бұрын
I know! Only a pic of his truck! Anyone could have been driving it. ​@@carlf.9035
@allenmobley8444
@allenmobley8444 25 күн бұрын
@@carlf.9035there’s proof by video and gps and multiple witnesses that he was in another state the day before and day of her death. Face it she killed herself he probably was a hypocrite and a bad husband but that doesn’t mean he killed her.
@wqv5423ln
@wqv5423ln 25 күн бұрын
How about blaming the leadership of her church for not protecting her, and letting this guy be a " pastor" even though he had no biblical qualifications !
@user-rj9kj3on1x
@user-rj9kj3on1x 25 күн бұрын
All malignant narcissists have flying monkeys.
@molly5262
@molly5262 25 күн бұрын
💯!!!
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 25 күн бұрын
Even if JP was taken out of leadership, it wouldn’t have changed his narcissism and he would have still done the same thing to her.
@formerlyfromthefuton8171
@formerlyfromthefuton8171 25 күн бұрын
How about blaming her for the first degree *mur.der* she committed when she unalived herself with premeditation?
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 25 күн бұрын
@@formerlyfromthefuton8171what the heck? Are you from another planet?
@jasond6770
@jasond6770 25 күн бұрын
Mica's family WE ARE WITH YOU! And I believe GOD IS WITH YOU! Don't let up one second!
@user-ux3qu7mr2m
@user-ux3qu7mr2m 25 күн бұрын
The same God that allowed Mica to die and her creepy husband to live? Are you sure that is God?
@Cecille_the_one
@Cecille_the_one 25 күн бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@michellerocco5073
@michellerocco5073 25 күн бұрын
🙏 AMEN 💯!!!!
@bpassion4fashion581
@bpassion4fashion581 25 күн бұрын
NARCISSISTIC/SOCIOPATHIC ABUSE!!! The world needs to wake up to the fact that this type of abuse is more dangerous and damaging than punching someone and then breaking up. HE DROVE her to the edge !
@Mountainhippiedude
@Mountainhippiedude 25 күн бұрын
Until someone goes through such abuse, they’ll never comprehend the destruction it does to us internally. The church tells us that we are to smile and express joy to glorify Christ in our suffering when on the inside we are praying that God will take our lives to end the pain.
@truthseeker7997
@truthseeker7997 24 күн бұрын
His abuse drove her to suicide. No doubt.
@beverlyb4256
@beverlyb4256 24 күн бұрын
Also one "induces" a baby's delivery or an abortion. So he might have made a Freudian slip saying it was self induced, as in by his big EGO-SELF "induced"....
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 24 күн бұрын
@@Mountainhippiedudeit’s because the church is more interested in “saving marriages” than in the safety and sanity of the individuals - unlike Jesus who healed a man on the Sabbath. The church also needs to talk about oppression if they’ll talk about suffering. So messed up.
@Mountainhippiedude
@Mountainhippiedude 24 күн бұрын
@@zuuumbaaa agreed. They want to save marriages by “forbidding divorce”. But the divorce isn’t what caused the marriage to fail. It was the gossip, the dishonesty, the adultery, the lack of mutual respect, the manipulation and abuse, etc that caused the marriage to fail. If churches focused more on those things and less on forbidding divorce, we would see a lot less divorce within the church.
@michellel2773
@michellel2773 25 күн бұрын
Imagjne a whole congregation supporting this "pastor" every Sunday.....
@peekaboopixie
@peekaboopixie 25 күн бұрын
I don't understand that either. They're either not good people or don't possess good discernment not to reward his gross, unbiblical behavior with their money and attendance. He's not a man of God. JP said he doesn't forgive. Even God forgives.
@tomorrowallways
@tomorrowallways 25 күн бұрын
cult. only a cult would protect a predator not a Christian. in a cult their leader is their god.
@x77punk77x
@x77punk77x 25 күн бұрын
@@peekaboopixie He comes across as shallow, immature, and desperate for attention, not an intelligent or reflective person. He’s like that guy at the party who thinks he’s really clever and funny but is just self-centered.
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 25 күн бұрын
And being brainwashed by him 🤮
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 25 күн бұрын
​@@peekaboopixieI think he uses religion as control. Shaming those who question him.....
@a.humphries8678
@a.humphries8678 25 күн бұрын
Wow, an adult trying to drive a wedge between a child and their family is the definition of a groomer predator. That is grooming!! That is a dangerous person!
@annagarza7299
@annagarza7299 25 күн бұрын
Why would she file for DIVORCE if she was going to kill herself. ??? That just does not make any sense
@RoSE-uy1wt
@RoSE-uy1wt 25 күн бұрын
Exactly…why spend money time energy etc on filling for divorce if you plan on taking your life? Doesn’t make sense
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 25 күн бұрын
I believe she should've been under Dr's Care and also on her meds . Many Churches dissuade members from Mental Healthcare Care . I'm so sorry such a young person lost her way .
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 25 күн бұрын
It does make sense. When she filed for divorce she was not thinking of killing herself, but an abuser will make your life HELL when you try to leave him. Imagine trying to escape from hell and satan coming after you. She was pushed to the brink, his constant harassment, she just couldn’t take it anymore. Victims of abuse as 3 times as likely to have suicidal thoughts.
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 25 күн бұрын
@@deniseganey6890this is BS from the husband, who tries to say she was mentally ill and people are buying his story. She was just a very traumatized person by this evil man.
@MsJellyBellyLove
@MsJellyBellyLove 25 күн бұрын
@@deniseganey6890 Do we have proof yet that she was diagnosed bipolar-schizophrenic and that she needed to be medicated, or is this just his claims so far?
@heytam7162
@heytam7162 25 күн бұрын
So Mica had physical recent injuries on her when she passed? They weren’t there in any of the pics from what I could see, her dad is absolutely thinking foul play from what I am hearing.
@michelleg4069
@michelleg4069 25 күн бұрын
Bruises on her hand and arm.😢
@joannemurdock7899
@joannemurdock7899 25 күн бұрын
Someone ALLEGEDLY still abusing her? Holding her down?
@madnessintomagic
@madnessintomagic 25 күн бұрын
You saw pics from AFTER her death?
@kerrog4119
@kerrog4119 25 күн бұрын
, how did u see murder pics
@MsJellyBellyLove
@MsJellyBellyLove 25 күн бұрын
How did you get access to her morgue photos?
@froandcara
@froandcara 25 күн бұрын
Wow. Narcissists- those who have dealt with them can spot them 😢
@Shay3356
@Shay3356 25 күн бұрын
Absolutely.
@emeraldgreen777
@emeraldgreen777 25 күн бұрын
This narcisist was hiding behind religion which is fairly common too.
@Shay3356
@Shay3356 25 күн бұрын
@@emeraldgreen777 the narcissist who ruined my life also, used religion to hide his sinister, dark side.
@adelitabriano4423
@adelitabriano4423 24 күн бұрын
Deceiving monsters!!
@SV-tj7mm
@SV-tj7mm 23 күн бұрын
poor man tried to save the narcissists but she ended up killing herself.
@cdcdogs4961
@cdcdogs4961 25 күн бұрын
He is 100% responsible!!!
@Bonzi_Buddy
@Bonzi_Buddy 25 күн бұрын
Nope
@sdfft820
@sdfft820 25 күн бұрын
He may be or she might have been a total liar. It needs objective investigation.
@Pedroandkalithemaligator6602
@Pedroandkalithemaligator6602 25 күн бұрын
Feelings don't trump facts. Smh
@user-ux3qu7mr2m
@user-ux3qu7mr2m 25 күн бұрын
@@Pedroandkalithemaligator6602 You tell that to a room full of angry people. Good luck. 👍
@sr-ty7gb
@sr-ty7gb 22 күн бұрын
Micah is 100% responsible. You have zero evidence of anything other than a marriage gone bad.
@nomnom4303
@nomnom4303 25 күн бұрын
I saw a video where he was being asked by Mica to leave her, he replied by saying I will post your pictures 😢, he must blackmailed her too
@SLUBUG
@SLUBUG 19 күн бұрын
He did post naked pictures of her.....a pastor...imagine that
@TheChrooner
@TheChrooner 2 күн бұрын
Omg
@user-ux3qu7mr2m
@user-ux3qu7mr2m 25 күн бұрын
Wtf is really going on here ? The cops have to be friends of JP.
@gwengwen4535
@gwengwen4535 25 күн бұрын
Yes and the officials are probably in the pocket of JP’s dad who should also be in prison for his abuse of children and God only knows what else. Their mental illness and evil runs the the family.
@Malibusurfsup
@Malibusurfsup 25 күн бұрын
That's what I thought
@carlf.9035
@carlf.9035 25 күн бұрын
He followed her or kidnapped her. She got the weapon for her own protection not to use against herself. She was building a case against him with evidence it'd make no sense to quit at that point. They need to seize all his digital devices asap.
@janmckay6591
@janmckay6591 25 күн бұрын
But Mica rang police to say she was going to kill herself and wanted her family to be able to find her body?
@tinameyer7080
@tinameyer7080 25 күн бұрын
He was in another state at the time she chose a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
@Bcavz47
@Bcavz47 25 күн бұрын
Where was his father? Would he have any connections for a “hit” on Mica?
@selecttravelvacations7472
@selecttravelvacations7472 24 күн бұрын
But she did use it on herself, sadly.
@sr-ty7gb
@sr-ty7gb 22 күн бұрын
Please never accept jury duty. If they ask you to take jury duty show them your comment so that they will ban you.
@ladybugshyness2011
@ladybugshyness2011 25 күн бұрын
I’m a devout Christian who’s a daughter of an abuser who served in the Marines (who’s deceased). Her husband is 100% accountable. Never judge a book by its cover. Abusers come from all walks of life. He may have been a pastor. But outside of the church, he was a monster. It is what it is
@cindyrobinson3882
@cindyrobinson3882 25 күн бұрын
I agree with you 100%. I too am a devout Christian. Dated a narcissist from church. At church & to the outside world, he was so wonderful. But bcuz I'd had a history of past depression, I became the worst person & he the victim. BTW - He was the 3rd narc relationship. They prey on vulnerable people. Yes, even pastors are narcs. They are on a "platform" with all eyes on him, feeding their ego. Like you, my narc has passed away. Sad to say, but I no longer have to walk on eggshells since he passed. 🙏
@novembersky3749
@novembersky3749 25 күн бұрын
u said it. where were her parent then?!
@estaisadore6188
@estaisadore6188 25 күн бұрын
Dear...he is a monster in church too..not really preaching the true word of God..agree with you...just sad..so many are fooled by these types of Pastors...
@ladybugshyness2011
@ladybugshyness2011 25 күн бұрын
@@estaisadore6188 You’re right. This “pastor” left his ex wife for Mica. Mica also claimed that she was groomed by him when she was a child. I believe her! I’m surprised he was still able to be a pastor following all of this. Also, people still congregated at his church. Sad! This is exactly why I’m so cautious with who I congregate with.
@t4r478
@t4r478 25 күн бұрын
As a devout Christian, you should know that he’s not 100% responsible for a suicide. This is not your judgement to make. If she indeed killed herself, she is more responsible for her death than he is. He’s clearly responsible for her death. Unless he pulled the trigger, you are leading people astray. God is just. What you commented is a lie.
@carolynmorris7303
@carolynmorris7303 25 күн бұрын
It's the most dangerous when leaving the abuser, because they are losing power and control.
@prestonjerry366
@prestonjerry366 25 күн бұрын
How could a Police Department NOT perform Autopsy on a Murder Case ? . . What sort of Police Dept is this ? . . The FBI needs to investigate the Lumberton NC Police Dept!
@astridgalactic9336
@astridgalactic9336 25 күн бұрын
Almost as bad as their 911 system! That woman who took that call sounded like she received almost no training at all, other than how to take a call without getting upset or too flustered. Nothing regarding how to handle S calls or immediate dangerous circumstances.
@guadalupesalgado5604
@guadalupesalgado5604 25 күн бұрын
They really need to lawyer up so they can stop him from getting everything of hers since he's the husband .
@heytam7162
@heytam7162 25 күн бұрын
Especially when they said they “investigated” thoroughly & there is bruising of her being grabbed on her arms and hand. Like mind blown right now. Wth is going on??
@Emis_Dad
@Emis_Dad 25 күн бұрын
PJP father probably has some of em on payroll, to speculate ofc
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 25 күн бұрын
​@@astridgalactic9336 Tge 911 Operator was quite diligent and compassionate. Listen again. Officers were dispatched Immeduatly as well as a an overhead Drone I believe. They arrived within minutes.
@norainocentes2175
@norainocentes2175 25 күн бұрын
Justice for Mica? Investigate the husband.
@kellylott9296
@kellylott9296 25 күн бұрын
​@tangerinedream-ou6zq no he's not any longer from what I understand- but I know you asked someone else...
@bbe3034
@bbe3034 25 күн бұрын
This husband absolutely murdered Mica! He had a girlfriend for months before the murder! And his girlfriend’s husband died mysteriously. He died from drowning in a swimming pool!
@JohnWick-zk7hp
@JohnWick-zk7hp 25 күн бұрын
@tangerinedream-ou6zqnot even close to the same thing your false equivalency must be very convenient for you 😂
@JohnWick-zk7hp
@JohnWick-zk7hp 25 күн бұрын
@@bbe3034you watch to many tv shows 😂😂😂
@sr-ty7gb
@sr-ty7gb 22 күн бұрын
Justice???? She killed herself. She was manipulative and absuive towards him. They both tried to manipulate and emotionally abuse each other.
@chartmann43
@chartmann43 25 күн бұрын
Wow… I didn’t know that about the bruises ect on her body!!???
@janetcampbell5678
@janetcampbell5678 25 күн бұрын
Me either
@easternkiwiz
@easternkiwiz 25 күн бұрын
Thank you to Mica's family for sharing with us what was clearly an abusive marriage. This is NO way for any husband to treat their wife, let alone a so called "man of the cloth". May you find justice for Mica as her story resonates around the world. Much love and prayers from New Zealand 🙏
@estaisadore6188
@estaisadore6188 25 күн бұрын
Amen and it does need to go far...make people aware...think there is great trouble..in many of these so called churches..oh for sure not all..and to different agrees..many out right robbing folks for gain..whoa..unto those So called Pastors..Bible called them.Wolves..in Sheep 's clothing..and their day is coming ..God sees all..AMEN..just so sad...but we know Dear Mica loved God..Amen
@sr-ty7gb
@sr-ty7gb 22 күн бұрын
Yeah, because they are telling the whole story. Please.
@donv4576
@donv4576 25 күн бұрын
Her father and sister is showing a lot of strength. I would still be in tears in their position
@jjjjjj192
@jjjjjj192 25 күн бұрын
nah their stupid for not naming the surgery
@SamStone1964
@SamStone1964 25 күн бұрын
How can a husband force a wife to have a surgery?
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 25 күн бұрын
​@@SamStone1964According to some Biblical interpretations a wife is to submit without question . He used Faith to manipulate and vonttol ,even though as a,Christian Woman I'm sure she knew it was wrong .
@Ali.Bruni143
@Ali.Bruni143 25 күн бұрын
@@jjjjjj192​​⁠it was OBVIOUSLY a forced breast augmentation/enlargement. Anyone with common sense can deduce that 2+2 = 4
@Illusionist15
@Illusionist15 25 күн бұрын
@@Ali.Bruni143right & I adore Jesus but trust, if I had had to do that surgery I most certainly would’ve insisted that he have a surgery to enlarge his tiny Johnson
@mizteek5024
@mizteek5024 25 күн бұрын
Great to see the family speaking up and letting people know what JP was really like with Mica.
@---Joy---
@---Joy--- 25 күн бұрын
He's responsible.
@sr-ty7gb
@sr-ty7gb 22 күн бұрын
She is responsible. She is also evil for starting arguments with him, then pushing the record button after she was done running her mouth. Very manipulative. Saf
@peekaboopixie
@peekaboopixie 25 күн бұрын
He absolutely is responsible. She was very verbal about her struggles with and fear of him. The question is what was the final trigger? What did he say or threaten her with? Uploading more risqué photos of her to further embarrass her? That should be illegal, and he should be held accountable if that's the case. She may have "disgusted" him, but he disgusts everybody else. He's a horrible person.
@lynnhubbard844
@lynnhubbard844 25 күн бұрын
she disgusted him because she matured and spoke up for herself...that was unacceptable to him
@BabylonIzFalling
@BabylonIzFalling 25 күн бұрын
I’ve wondered if she purchased the weapon for protection. B/c of the stalking, the post of porn revenge, tracking devices, flattened tires and harassment. It was relentless and vile. And on the day of her purchase she was lured to the state park. That's why she had to google it. On her door cam she went home and got cleaned up. Almost like she was going to meet someone. But there’s that 911 call, and the Africa vid, saying she did try to harm herself, and the weapon jammed. *Tragic!* Her estranged husband does need to be held accountable for the hell he inflicted on her. #Justice4Mica
@carlf.9035
@carlf.9035 25 күн бұрын
I believe he kidnapped her or followed her and they ended up at that park together. The footage does not show him driving the truck there is no evidence he was in another state anyone else could've been driving his truck. There was no autopsy done to confirm there was no physical struggle or force hit on her before the gun shot. It doesn't add up and I believe he killed her.
@DebraGill
@DebraGill 25 күн бұрын
@@carlf.9035I believe he is responsible no matter where he was, a person can only take so much abuse.
@bbe3034
@bbe3034 25 күн бұрын
I believe he murdered her! He didn’t want to let go of his money!
@susanlloyd3515
@susanlloyd3515 25 күн бұрын
His church should be holding him responsible for his foul behavior right from the time she was 14, on. They must condone it if he's still their pastor and they all know about him grooming her.
@christopherwilliams7222
@christopherwilliams7222 25 күн бұрын
Fly high beautiful angel. I pray what is being kept in darkness will be exposed by the light of Jesus.
@cindyrobinson3882
@cindyrobinson3882 25 күн бұрын
Amen!! 🙏
@RebeccaWorkman
@RebeccaWorkman 25 күн бұрын
There is NO help for women like Mica and myself. My childs father continues to terrorize me even though I left five years ago, married someone else and moved 4 hours away. He kidnapped my daughter last year, paid off the judge and I'm still fighting. Desperately praying someone somewhere will hear me. I have tried everything. I just paid 4 grande for a lawyer to make the parenting plan that he broke. I couldn't afford it again. There is ZERO help for women who have been manipulated, physically and emotionally abused, stalked, and terrorized. He was under investigation by the department of homeland security for having naked pictures of my then 7 year old daughter and the police and court assisted with his abuse simply for money. This is the world we live in. Laws need to be changed. Womens shelters dont do crap to protect abused women. I feel so sorry for Mica. My ex will not stop until I'm dead as well. He will probably be the one to kill me. Just another number. The world does not give a shit. They wouldnt help you when you were alive Mica. They just want your story. It's so horrible. Imagine being in our shoes. It's all about money. Not about the women or the children.
@SoulSearch11110
@SoulSearch11110 25 күн бұрын
OMG no, what state are you in? Any domestic violence centers?
@kattykakes8135
@kattykakes8135 25 күн бұрын
A cry for help…💔😭🌹
@ew2755
@ew2755 25 күн бұрын
it ends when your child is 16 , 17 or 18. it will end though,
@MultiSignlanguage
@MultiSignlanguage 25 күн бұрын
💔🥺 I’m so sorry, that’s terrible 😢
@LizaF-SouthAfrica
@LizaF-SouthAfrica 25 күн бұрын
So true about him being a narc. Anyone who wasnt in such a relationship..doesnt understand. And the narc makes it look like you are the crazy one. I also believe she didnt do it...
@Deb501
@Deb501 25 күн бұрын
The first thing they need to do is have their own autopsy done
@markdavis3539
@markdavis3539 25 күн бұрын
wasn't she cremated?
@Deb501
@Deb501 25 күн бұрын
@@markdavis3539 I looked into it. Yes. JP probably had it done as quickly as possible
@jenniferhansen3622
@jenniferhansen3622 25 күн бұрын
​@@Deb501😢
@Bcavz47
@Bcavz47 25 күн бұрын
Last I heard…they had not done the cremation. That may have changed?
@MultiSignlanguage
@MultiSignlanguage 25 күн бұрын
The cremation is already done, it was done a 2-3 days ago now?
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 25 күн бұрын
He didn't alienate her for no reason. Grooming.
@beatriz9376
@beatriz9376 25 күн бұрын
She probably bought the gun for self defense.
@wqv5423ln
@wqv5423ln 25 күн бұрын
Thats what I thunk, and she was beung tracked & followed by someine.
@joannemurdock7899
@joannemurdock7899 25 күн бұрын
Yes I agree, and also she probably bought the gun to PROTECT herself! Truth and Justice for Mica🙏💕🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@eyesofblue1050
@eyesofblue1050 25 күн бұрын
I thought that, too.
@MsJellyBellyLove
@MsJellyBellyLove 25 күн бұрын
@@wqv5423ln Pastor hubby admitted to wrecking her tries and putting a tracking device on her car!
@permanentmakeuplosangeles
@permanentmakeuplosangeles 25 күн бұрын
she called 911 and said she was going to end her life
@amberkennedy9982
@amberkennedy9982 25 күн бұрын
I'm so sorry you guys are going through this. Mica was a beautiful soul. Praying for you all. #justiceformica
@mariamjehn7071
@mariamjehn7071 25 күн бұрын
Narcissistic abusers need to be accountable..
@amyheffington9069
@amyheffington9069 25 күн бұрын
NE Missouri is here. My prayers, don’t stop until justice is served. Rest easy beautiful lady.
@dalehoward3704
@dalehoward3704 25 күн бұрын
I bet he forced her to have cosmetic surgery, implants etc.
@SandraLuz3
@SandraLuz3 23 күн бұрын
I thought the same. I seen in another video he was trying to get topless photos of another woman right after Micas passing
@harley228
@harley228 25 күн бұрын
When you leave an abusive relationship, it’s the most dangerous time. I got away from one 5 years ago. I had to go far away from family and friends. I hope they look into this.
@SacredDreamer
@SacredDreamer 25 күн бұрын
😱😞 oh wow,, sounds like SOMEONE put their hands on Mica !! LETS EXPOSE EVERY TRUTH ! EVERY TRUTH !
@danab.3531
@danab.3531 24 күн бұрын
Incredibly difficult to get away from a narcissist. God Bless her. Her pastor husband needs to be investigated.
@user-js5gy1pq3u
@user-js5gy1pq3u 25 күн бұрын
The surgery he forced her to have was breast implants/ augmentation.
@hellyan35867
@hellyan35867 25 күн бұрын
I figured
@SpPC27
@SpPC27 25 күн бұрын
When did the parents become aware of mica’s grooming? Rip 💜
@lynnhubbard844
@lynnhubbard844 25 күн бұрын
right? How can she leave her home as a minor---what did her school say? Who tried to prevent her from leaving home? Did she run away?
@SpPC27
@SpPC27 25 күн бұрын
@@lynnhubbard844 that’s what I am wondering but I didn’t want to come off insensitive. If the parents knew about the grooming and did nothing then.. 😢😬 I hope I’m wrong.
@MashaT22
@MashaT22 25 күн бұрын
Grooming can happen while a kid is still living at home. He probably mostly did it at Church, youth groups, on mission trips/events, and in the girl’s spare time. He could have said they were doing bible study, for example, and was actually using that time to warp Mica’s mind/and or body. They are very cunning to do grooming under the guise of religious study, activities, etc. so the family of victims won’t suspect anything is wrong because they thought their kid was in a safe place and person. This is sadly a frequent problem in many religious circles while the kids/teens still live at home. I’ve seen in happen in my own Jewish circles where teachers, rabbis, and others with a powerful position might do that. You can’t fault the family because these people really pray on kids when the family members are not present.
@brettcantrell8650
@brettcantrell8650 25 күн бұрын
EXACTLY........HOW COME FOR SO MANY YEARS THEY WERE UNAWARE OF ALL THIS?
@brettcantrell8650
@brettcantrell8650 25 күн бұрын
@@SpPC27 YEP......
@miss.pudding6444
@miss.pudding6444 25 күн бұрын
If charges don’t come we all know he paid someone off. He’s a crazy, grooming, lunatic! If anyone else has been abused by this man they need to come out and speak. It could save someone else’s child.💔🙏💯
@adigitalwarrior1929
@adigitalwarrior1929 25 күн бұрын
I really feel your intuition is correct. JP Miller is a bully and a narcissist. Praying for her family.
@janmckay6591
@janmckay6591 25 күн бұрын
Why did family not step in if there was abuse in this relationship?
@renaemorris4090
@renaemorris4090 25 күн бұрын
That's a great question. I wonder the same.
@mrsd2950
@mrsd2950 25 күн бұрын
And do what? She’s a grown woman. They can’t make her do anything, especially if he’s got her brainwashed and going back to him after every escape
@jerseycliff
@jerseycliff 25 күн бұрын
Where wasvthe family when she was alive to provide the support she needed to get away from him?
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 25 күн бұрын
Her Father helped her relocate and bought her a new car after her husband took her SUV .
@hellyan35867
@hellyan35867 25 күн бұрын
People in these situations usually hide it for a while. They are unsure of what’s going on and blame themselves too. Abusers convince them they are at fault for the marital problems.
@katiemvp6536
@katiemvp6536 25 күн бұрын
Mental Cruelty and abuse can drive someone to pure desperation especially if he/she sees no way out..😥Her horrible husband pushed her to the extremes and instead of helping her he abused her to the fullest. He is the pure DEVIL who hurt this beautiful lady like a damn BULLY!! HE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE! Absolutely 💯 he should be charged.I pray and pray he is held liable to the fullest extent possible.
@elizabethliberto5542
@elizabethliberto5542 25 күн бұрын
Also if she was a teen why weren't the parents more involved in what she was doing or questioning this man?
@upsidedowngrief
@upsidedowngrief 25 күн бұрын
Three thins that stuck me. There was screaming a pause the a noise i can't say on KZfaq. Then marks on her arms. She's found in the river. She phoned 911 to be tracked so she could be found. So why would she end up in the river. He state in his letter he is moving on with his life. And yet he allowed her nothing. Removed her cell, laptop , car est. I thought it was almost impossible to commit some one if they refuse. So how did he convinced them to do so against her will. I so hope they preserved her for more investigation.
@markdavis3539
@markdavis3539 25 күн бұрын
in florida someone can be committed against their will. it's called the baker act. they may have something like that in S.C.
@healinggrounds19
@healinggrounds19 24 күн бұрын
He had her cremated immediately
@marilynbuenconsejo1090
@marilynbuenconsejo1090 25 күн бұрын
Covert narcissists can slowly suck the life out of you. My ex tried but once I exposed him for what he is, he discarded me, just like narcissists do.
@michaelfrancis1
@michaelfrancis1 25 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. We appreciate all your support.
@solsrescueable
@solsrescueable 24 күн бұрын
Stalkers can drive a vulnerable person to do something terrible in desperation. My heart is broken for this family.
@kimstikeleather679
@kimstikeleather679 25 күн бұрын
Sue the police it’s South Carolina
@rosannadana2922
@rosannadana2922 24 күн бұрын
You got both states involved
@evelynrodriguez5036
@evelynrodriguez5036 24 күн бұрын
I lived with a narcissist and the pastor threw me under the bus when I went to ask for help. I went through all types of abuse. God gave me the strength to get out alive! My heart goes out to this family. Beautiful young lady. Yes! He is responsible! Remember he will face God!
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 25 күн бұрын
Yes, civil suit and criminal.
@kindness12345
@kindness12345 25 күн бұрын
Micas Law!! Justice for Mica
@ShelbyMagnolia
@ShelbyMagnolia 25 күн бұрын
JP needs to be held accountable! He definitely contributed to her ultimate demise!
@shirl974
@shirl974 25 күн бұрын
Nightmare 😢
@Poppyseed0990
@Poppyseed0990 25 күн бұрын
Mica I hope your family is able to get you the justice you deserve. ❤
@dubyredburndarling6334
@dubyredburndarling6334 25 күн бұрын
LE was to quick to call this a suicide. I'm not the only one that feels this way. Praying for Mica's family 🙏💔
@peculiarstar4261
@peculiarstar4261 25 күн бұрын
Hold him accountable!
@lucianachamberlain5939
@lucianachamberlain5939 25 күн бұрын
Has anyone looked into the validity of the 911 call? Was it really her or did someone use AI to replicate her voice?
@carlf.9035
@carlf.9035 25 күн бұрын
Exactly what I think too. He had her phone for over a month and access to her stuff. He also was tracking her online and offline. He understood technology.
@SunshinesART
@SunshinesART 25 күн бұрын
It’s actually very easy to do with free AI tools. The 911 call was just so weird.
@Coffeelover4evr
@Coffeelover4evr 25 күн бұрын
I just thought of something. He could have forced her to call 911 so that her family could indeed find her body and not wonder where her body was. For him, it appears as a suicide - which is far more dark and sinister.
@mariajaramillo1135
@mariajaramillo1135 25 күн бұрын
And what were the parents doing when this young lady was under this guy wings ? You should protect her then when she was under age.
@mariadominguez116
@mariadominguez116 25 күн бұрын
Exactly. Seems weird. They don't seem to know much about this grooming
@JesusChistLovesYou
@JesusChistLovesYou 25 күн бұрын
He brainwashed her and used his connections in the church to prey on her and get her away from her family! Yea! Teens can run away from home especially when there’s predators brainwashing and grooming them! How dare you criticize the grieving parents!
@reannfrantz9102
@reannfrantz9102 25 күн бұрын
Leave her grieving parents alone!
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 25 күн бұрын
@@mariadominguez116narcissistic grooming is very sneaky. It can happen to anyone. People need to stop blaming the family, JP is the one responsible for all this.
@hellyan35867
@hellyan35867 25 күн бұрын
@@zuuumbaaaexactly this. Initially grooming involves not only the victim but their circle as well. The family is usually convinced this is someone their child should be trusted with. I mean, the whole church community vouches for him by giving him a position of power. One would have to be pretty darn sure before making accusations. And these people are so sneaky and take advantage of a young person’s innocence, slowly turning the child away from their family.
@Bob-wr1mn
@Bob-wr1mn 25 күн бұрын
JP seems like a very shady guy! Mica was absolutely beautiful inside and out!
@patcom7085
@patcom7085 25 күн бұрын
No wonder why she didn’t want to be with him any more, look at him, he’s a lame.
@TheWaterlily2012
@TheWaterlily2012 25 күн бұрын
It doesn't make any sense. Is it true that they didn't even check for water in the lungs during the autopsy?
@jackydooley6053
@jackydooley6053 25 күн бұрын
They teach kids about "STRANGE DANGER" but the fact is less than 10% of crimes INCLUDING murder, meaning that the other 90% and murders or abuse are carried out by someone the victim KNOWS! Along with teaching kids about "stranger danger" they should be teaching them how to see the signs of abuse in EVERYONE and EVERYTHING including people known to them! You can only be betrayed by someone YOU KNOW and TRUST, a stranger can't betray you the way a loved one or a trusted person can! This should be taught at a very young age just like the road traffic rule "to look at both sides before crossing the street" they should be taught how to look out for red flags and other signs, surrounding mental, physical, verbal,emotional and even sexual abuse, just like they teach sex education, rules of the road and stranger danger! Every child should also be taught self defense and life savings measures in my opinion!
@ReelHugs
@ReelHugs 25 күн бұрын
Praying for justice and that the truth of what really happened starts busting through every seam of this cover up.
@cesarduenasduenas908
@cesarduenasduenas908 25 күн бұрын
Sounds like she didn't trust her own Dad to help, hence why she didn't open up to him.
@whitney9810
@whitney9810 25 күн бұрын
What I want to know is why did these parents think it was okay to let their teenage daughter date an adult male?
@VANSLEEK1
@VANSLEEK1 25 күн бұрын
Very questionable indeed
@sandramccann6967
@sandramccann6967 25 күн бұрын
Kind of too late for the whys..I assume jp and Mica hid their " relationship?
@carlf.9035
@carlf.9035 25 күн бұрын
They'll be thinking about that question for the rest of their lives. Very disgusting.
@reannfrantz9102
@reannfrantz9102 25 күн бұрын
Dude, a kid who get groomed by her pastor isnt allowed to "date" him in 99.9999999+ instances, more like the groomer messes with the kids mind so he can have sex with her then or when she turns 18. The parents dont know the dude is grooming her via texts and acces to her at youth group activities.
@SamStone1964
@SamStone1964 25 күн бұрын
She was JP and his first wife's babysitter. Then she married JP's best friend from 18 to 21.
@debbiephillips176
@debbiephillips176 25 күн бұрын
She was threatened and told to say she was going to kill herself someone was there she did not do this
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 25 күн бұрын
Was Dad in the Household ?
@Starcrunch913
@Starcrunch913 25 күн бұрын
JP calls himself a Christian, pastor to a church. If he believes God is watching, why does he do the things he does? Like, Catholic priests that do what they do with no concern that God knows. It makes me wonder if they really believe at all or if they’re just playing some role.
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 24 күн бұрын
The Bible calls these people wolves in sheep’s clothing.
@estaisadore6188
@estaisadore6188 25 күн бұрын
Prayers they get justice for Dear Mica ❤❤❤❤
@heatherleann80
@heatherleann80 25 күн бұрын
There needs to be a law called Mica’s Law protecting women from their abusers! This can’t keep happening! Something needs to be done to protect people instead of ignoring them! The police definitely dropped the ball so many times. If they didn’t I think things would’ve been a lot different for Mica! RIP Mica 💖🙏🏼😇#JusticeForMica
@aneneschreuder5820
@aneneschreuder5820 25 күн бұрын
Abortion?
@rozdoyle8872
@rozdoyle8872 25 күн бұрын
That is a possibility.
@misscriminalcontemplation
@misscriminalcontemplation 25 күн бұрын
Yep
@catherinegrace2366
@catherinegrace2366 25 күн бұрын
No, a breast augmentation.
@wqv5423ln
@wqv5423ln 25 күн бұрын
Tubes tied ? We dont know. Leave it alone and respect dad
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 25 күн бұрын
​@@catherinegrace2366Most likely. To boost his Carnal Ego. How anyone with even a tiny bit of decernment didn't pick up on his vile nature ..... . It's a small Southern Town and people felt pressured inside this Institution not to speak up.
@mariadominguez116
@mariadominguez116 25 күн бұрын
Why didn't her family intervene and encourage her to leave him!
@rozdoyle8872
@rozdoyle8872 25 күн бұрын
It doesn't work like that , a person trapped in the mental hell she appears to have been in has to do their own leaving and nothing or nobody can help because the Demon rules everyone in the circle without those affected even knowing what in Hell has come upon them, all down to being crippled with fear & confusion & over powering self doubt.
@misscriminalcontemplation
@misscriminalcontemplation 25 күн бұрын
They tried, he was and is the problem imo
@mariapilarme
@mariapilarme 25 күн бұрын
You can talk to her but you can’t do anything for her she is an adult . Unfortunately as parents we know things but our kids don’t listen they think they know better.
@zuuumbaaa
@zuuumbaaa 25 күн бұрын
How do you know they didn’t? Leaving a narc is very difficult. She was trying to leave him, she had filed for divorce.
@lunabird89
@lunabird89 25 күн бұрын
It all makes sense now. This pastor had baggage and problems . He lured mica in from church and convinced her . Trapped her soul 😢
@lifetipswithbrandy
@lifetipswithbrandy 25 күн бұрын
God bless this family. Even after hearing her 911 call, i still has more questions than answers. For that guy to take her things and delete all the information on them... parents, pls hire a private investigator for Mica of you could and get proper justice for her 🙏🏽
@user-lz7uy7cd8i
@user-lz7uy7cd8i 25 күн бұрын
Mica was stunningly beautiful, and really obviously a beautiful person. The pasture was a monster. A wolf in sheep's clothing.
@singingdonkey620
@singingdonkey620 25 күн бұрын
the angels took Mica to see the merciful judge so trust God with her soul He knows all about it. the man is a goat tare
@Julie86Mac
@Julie86Mac 25 күн бұрын
How was she approved to buy a gun if she had been committed for a psychiatric hold?
@mariefinnigan-yi6pp
@mariefinnigan-yi6pp 25 күн бұрын
Wow bruises on her hands.yes this has cover up all over it.there are mediums that have came out and said it was a hit and shes happy to be given a voice to say she did NOT do this to herself.I am so very sorry this has happened to mica she looks like a lovely young lady and did not deserve this. She has been murdered and I really hope that all is expose and this pos husband is found out soon.RIP Mica x
@tc7605
@tc7605 25 күн бұрын
He did it And why arnt the police charging him? Give me a break
@tremethebay2925
@tremethebay2925 25 күн бұрын
Evidence don’t lie.
@Atypicalkid88
@Atypicalkid88 21 күн бұрын
I was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder from 25 y/o to 32. I was put on lithium after the constant abuse of a narcissist ex and boss. I advocated for myself and I don't have bipolar. I have ADHD. I remember my ex was happy to take me to therapy and chug lithium and olanzapine (antipsichotic) to "make me softer and calmer" of course he wanted that, he wanted me confused and seem crazy. I remember he even convinced my mother to put me back on the bipolar meds when I started to see right through the abuse and manipulation. I almost married this man.. but like Mica, I looked for help, broke it off and did a lot of reading and self work. I AM now thriving, on the right meds and right diagnosis. It pains me to know and learn about this case because it hits SO close to home. not a lot of people (specially women) have the energy or resources to get out of that situation. It drains you mentally, emotionally and financially. If you are a person going through something similar please find help, you deserve a love that makes you feel free and safe.
@t4r478
@t4r478 25 күн бұрын
Please, people. Can we stop blame shifting. This so called “pastor” is guilty. This woman is guilty. Her father is guilty. Her mother is guilty. The Church is guilty. Please stop showing partiality. I’m tired of this. This is why we never learn. Don’t judge incorrectly. Please.
@ak-47intelligence75
@ak-47intelligence75 23 күн бұрын
Wrong..He drove her to suicide. He is the only one that's wrong and evil.
@dodidodi9632
@dodidodi9632 25 күн бұрын
I wonder where her family when their daughter was being abused at 15 ,16 years old ? if it's true, did the police get involved? What kind of family accepted a groomer as son in law 🤔.
@healinggrounds19
@healinggrounds19 24 күн бұрын
Did you not listen to the interview?
@elizabethliberto5542
@elizabethliberto5542 25 күн бұрын
When she was a kid how and why didnt the parents see any of this ? Regardless this is all sad i pray all the truth comes out soon.
@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions
@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions 25 күн бұрын
Ok but where was her FAMILY this whole time til now?????
@MultiSignlanguage
@MultiSignlanguage 25 күн бұрын
JP isolated her and kept her from the family. That’s what abusers do
@bcrunk11
@bcrunk11 25 күн бұрын
Settle down Francis. Your parenting couldn't/didn't protect her from herself or JP. Don't make it everyone else's fault.
@thetruthchannel349
@thetruthchannel349 25 күн бұрын
Translated: 'We're going to sue the church'
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 25 күн бұрын
Why did Micas' Parents allow a Male Adult to text thier 14 yr old daughter in the first place ? Boundaries are important . Soubds like Mica was rebellious .
@azureavocado5195
@azureavocado5195 25 күн бұрын
If she was “rebellious “ why was she in youth group at church? If she was “rebellious “ why was she so controlled by this man? See how unnecessary & silly that comment sounds?
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 25 күн бұрын
​@@azureavocado5195It looks as though there was a great deal of dysfunction in the home . Most Parents do not stand by and allow their Minor child to be running from home to home. She lied to Adult's to get her way . Take a moment and listen to the older Sister's interview . Muca was a depky disturbed young teen who needed Theraphy . Thus so called Church She was raised in sounds really off .
@MultiSignlanguage
@MultiSignlanguage 25 күн бұрын
You don’t know enough to make those judgments. Stop
@vaper6262
@vaper6262 25 күн бұрын
PRAYING 🙏 FOR THE TRUTH, AND FOR THE FAMILY 🙏
@maryh6953
@maryh6953 25 күн бұрын
This family seems pretty detached from actually doing anything for her early on her sister has no idea if she was having sex with this man and her teens. If somebody was hurting my sister, if I had one and abusing them, I would go to the ends of the Earth to make sure I still showed up in her face to talk to her to help her. This family also failed her.
@pennylane8401
@pennylane8401 25 күн бұрын
How can she be cremated already, with no toxicology, no testing for GSR, no test to see if there was water in her lungs, and no completed investigation??? I understand her family wanted to see her one last time, but couldn’t a court have put a hold on cremation, until a thorough investigation was completed?! The family was, likely, under duress to sign that paper to see her, as long as she was cremated. Disgusting! He abused her family and her one last time, to get his way! This is maddening! 🤬
@dawnywarthog6642
@dawnywarthog6642 25 күн бұрын
The medical examiner would need to change the death certificate. It currently states suicide. JP is the next of kin and dictates what happens to her body. Jmo
@pennylane8401
@pennylane8401 25 күн бұрын
@@dawnywarthog6642How can an ME change that, if they did no testing for those things? And how could he take control of her remains, when she had filed for divorce two days, prior. It just doesn’t make sense. I hope the FBI intervenes. This is so much bigger! I also hope her family files a wrongful death suit against him. Even if she did unalive, he, ultimately, gave her no other choices. LE screwed up big time, protecting her. #justiceformica 🫶🏼🕊️
@dawnywarthog6642
@dawnywarthog6642 25 күн бұрын
@@pennylane8401 I've seen many case's where the m.e. changed the death certificate. It's not easy though. I think her 911 call would be a reason not to have it changed, unfortunately. Not sure on next of kin during the filing of divorce. I believe it depends on the state you reside in. I hope he doesn't get away with this. Maybe with enough public, family outcry the death certificate could be changed....fingers crossed.
@janicekathleen5895
@janicekathleen5895 25 күн бұрын
@@dawnywarthog6642 They were separated, her parents would the next of kin
@dawnywarthog6642
@dawnywarthog6642 25 күн бұрын
@@janicekathleen5895 If that's true why was she cremated? Especially when the family believes there's potential foul play.
@wqv5423ln
@wqv5423ln 25 күн бұрын
Does anyone know what kind of church this was ? It doesnt sound like a biblical church because this guy never had the biblical qualifications for a pastor. What did the cjurch do for jer/ them since they must have been aware she was being abused or mistreated !
@aeh3253
@aeh3253 25 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, many pastors over the years have not been qualified/have been false.
@aeh3253
@aeh3253 25 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, many pastors over the years have been unqualified and wolves in sheep's clothing.
@joshuaarmand5236
@joshuaarmand5236 25 күн бұрын
Evangelical/non denomination
@wqv5423ln
@wqv5423ln 25 күн бұрын
@@joshuaarmand5236 Evangelical, but the " pastor's" not saved !
@BlueBelle-711
@BlueBelle-711 25 күн бұрын
3:29 Mystery surgery he forced her to have. So sickening
@cindyrobinson3882
@cindyrobinson3882 25 күн бұрын
This interview was done so well and with respect to Mica's family. NewsNation, thank you for staying with this story. This needs to be seen through, so that regulations and laws are put in place so it never happens again. Let us not forget what happened to Nicole Brown Simpson (OJ Simpson). I hope Mica's father and family may get some help from Nicole Brown Simpson's family in how to begin the process of fighting. I too am a survivor of this same kind of abuse. Narcissists are very good at manipulating people. They are sociopaths. Jehkyl and Hyde personalities. I pray for Mica's family and anyone who has endured and is still enduring this abuse. 🙏
@tinameyer7080
@tinameyer7080 25 күн бұрын
We do NOT need more new laws....geez.
@taniadelgado9286
@taniadelgado9286 25 күн бұрын
The truth will come out eventually. God cannot be fooled!!
@Me-hf4ii
@Me-hf4ii 25 күн бұрын
There were bruises on her arms that looked like handprints and possibly signs of struggle??? Wtf? Why wasn’t that mentioned in the report? THAT needs to be explained!. What was the toxicology? Maybe she was drugged and that’s why that 911 call sounded so checked out. We need a 3rd party to look at this now. So much doesn’t add up. But the bruises REALLY make it seem like something else happened that needs to be exposed.
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