Superlative Arms DI Adjustable Gas Block Field Test: Bleed-off vs Restriction vs Non-adjustable

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Michael Bell

Michael Bell

8 жыл бұрын

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@ArgosySpecOps
@ArgosySpecOps 8 жыл бұрын
Few gun pundits on youtube are as methodical, and thorough as Mr. Bell. Hats off to you sir for taking credible raw data & turning it into useful easy to understand information for all. Saves us novice a lot of time & money ;-)
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@blackhelicopters
@blackhelicopters 7 жыл бұрын
Yes very well done. You must be an engineer...
@fusionvic
@fusionvic Жыл бұрын
At 19:30 you can clearly see that the bleed-off had far less gas coming back. The restrictive setting had gas going past his right shoulder in a huge plume of smoke.
@benjaminnepveux9576
@benjaminnepveux9576 2 ай бұрын
This 100%, bleed off was more diffuse. Restricted has no where to go except through your BCG.
@joearledge1
@joearledge1 Ай бұрын
Yeah, 3 holes with bleed off (gas tube, muzzle, bleed off port), 2 holes with restriction. The question becomes is it enough difference to make a difference. That's up to you and what you're looking for. Using restriction, you get a velocity jump. My 18" SPR with SA adjustable gas, beats my 20" M16A4 clone in velocity by 25 to 50 fps. If I were to lighten the buffer and spring and bolt carrier, I might be able to reduce the gas volume required to cycle, and possibly get more of a velocity jump. To me, the SA gas block is a good tool, because you can decide what benefits are most important to what you're trying to do.
@bretaschleman8289
@bretaschleman8289 21 күн бұрын
I've been rocking these in my 556 pistol and my 308 rifle. They're easy to set and very noticeable recoil reduction.
@introgrunt4046
@introgrunt4046 5 күн бұрын
I just installed this on my AR, this comment alone has made me feel very good about winging this purchase lol.
@3G4Runner_N_Gunner
@3G4Runner_N_Gunner 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video so many times. I’m getting ready to take my AR10 to the range and set my suplerative arms gas block. I love how well presented this video is.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@steveotten9473
@steveotten9473 3 жыл бұрын
You are a breath of fresh air. Best videos on KZfaq hands down. Important information presented without ridiculous fluff or ego stocking. Thank you for awesome,.educational and entertaining videos
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@jamesmartin6198
@jamesmartin6198 Жыл бұрын
Great video and the information you provided in it is still true and valid in 2023. I will make one note to the video and that I personally have notice more of a benefit when using this adjustable gas block on SBRs and especially when they are suppressed.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@badmpg
@badmpg 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, very thorough and professional . Superlative could not have gotten a better reviewer
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@MyWatchIsEnded
@MyWatchIsEnded 3 жыл бұрын
I've only got five minutes into the video and I respect the hell out of the way that you do this process. Just like some other people have said it's very methodical and thoughtful in regards to different possibilities from changing the gas system. Thanks to you I'm going to purchase this device to go with my new free float handguard I think this company should sponsor you.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! Please tell the company that!!
@waterboy330
@waterboy330 7 жыл бұрын
I really like how you present your videos. Very professional and very friendly. You have a new subscriber.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@waterboy330
@waterboy330 7 жыл бұрын
I am going to advertise your channel and try to get you some more subscribers. Probably one of, if not the most educational firearm related channel I have ever come across.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks. This is one of my retirement projects. I retired from a surgical practice in 2014 and my kids started me on this project. I have been collecting and building for the past 25 years or so.
@waterboy330
@waterboy330 7 жыл бұрын
That explains why there is so much detail presented in your videos along with a clear and on track objective. I work EMS and have been involved with firearms for about 11 years now. This is a channel people can actually learn something from compared to most of the other more anecdotal channels.
@snellct
@snellct Жыл бұрын
6 years later and this video was hugely helpful! Great Job and Thank You!!!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@TheBenjamess
@TheBenjamess 4 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like I just went to gas block college? I'm glad to see someone out there that does the work and shows why he says what he says rather than just giving off the cuff opinions. Good job Sir. Thanks.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Please check out my channel if you get a chance.
@clayton8or
@clayton8or Жыл бұрын
I found your channel through this excellent scientific video and just had to see what more you had to offer. Shame it seems your channel never fully caught on and you've moved on to other things, but I hope you are proud of this gem of a channel you have published as an excellent resource for people like me way further into the future than one could reasonably expect from youtube content. I have almost 700 subscriptions and very few have i been compelled to make a similar comment, so thank you.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@coachingaddiction9756
@coachingaddiction9756 3 жыл бұрын
This was the absolute best video I have seen on the Superlative gas block. Now I know that it will work better than a standard gas block when running my 300 blk suppressed pistol build, AND that it will work even better when I build my first piston operated build. Thank you for this and GREAT job!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@tomlee6263
@tomlee6263 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, I just picked one of these up for my new build...8.5" 300BO w/can. I noticed your rate of fire was slightly faster with restricted gas setting, slight but perceivable.
@willthrill94
@willthrill94 2 ай бұрын
This is such an awesome video. Thanks for all the work that went into this
@thomastanita6022
@thomastanita6022 21 күн бұрын
i love it when channels use the scientific method to test things.
@CalzaTheFox
@CalzaTheFox 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your thorough and scientific approach to this gas block and its effects on the gun. You and Paul Harrell are exemplary in this regard.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I watch a lot of his videos.
@juggernaut429
@juggernaut429 5 жыл бұрын
Michael, you have the best and most informative videos I have seen. Thank you for the time you spent on making them. I have 3 Superlative Arms AGB's and love them and this video helped me understand how they work. Cheers!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@oregonoutback7779
@oregonoutback7779 8 жыл бұрын
I have been following this series with much interest. Just received two of these gas blocks today and look forward to installing & start to play with them. Very interesting design. Thanks for all your in depth work on this.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 8 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@gekigasky
@gekigasky 5 жыл бұрын
Your results support what I already suspected. Thank you for your thoroughness.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bills6946
@bills6946 7 күн бұрын
Asked my gunsmith about an adjustable gas block for my AR 15. He said, so you are getting a Suppressor? I said, No. He said, Then you don’t need an adjustable gas block. Of course, If the ATF can no longer tax a suppressor………………
@oif3vetk9
@oif3vetk9 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Love all the info in it and all the test scenarios you performed. Right now I'm shooting a AR in 6ARC with a 24" barrel. I've been testing different powder/bullet combos and thought I had a new load I would be happy with. Now the twist, I've been running a restrictive gas block, I guess we'll see what happens when I switch to the superaltives bleed off gas block. The reason I bought one was I'm having another upper done in 6 ARC and the gunsmith chambering my barrel only uses superlative blocks. (We shoot PRS) 6 ARC is tricky to load for as to getting good velocity AND have temp stability. Last season I ran VV N150 with a velocity of just over 2600 fps. I've been testing other vihtavouri powders and have settled on N540 with a 108gr eld-m bullet that has a mv of 2676 fps. Let's see how much the bleed off system slows it downs. If it's too much I'll stay with restrictive.
@henryvandervort9891
@henryvandervort9891 Жыл бұрын
I do appreciate your dedication to science, while I watched and re-watched your video I had a few cold beers, and enjoyed both thanks again
@GhostTownOutdoors
@GhostTownOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, what a great review and channel, I'm glad I found it, and your data is VERY much appreciated. I had very similar results when I got mine adjusted and tuned in at the range. Mine also didn't hold open at five clicks, but did at 6 clicks, however the ejection pattern was in the 4-6 range indicating that it was undergassed, and I found that 14 clicks worked well for my upper in restrictive mode. I wasn't able to shoot as much in bleed-off mode due to a pesky thunderstorm, but will be back out to finish up soon. Seriously, thank you for the detailed review, I subscribed and will be checking out more of your content.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@madd-mattmitchell917
@madd-mattmitchell917 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mike! Your methodology is excellent. I (personally) would put your videos on a par with Paul Harrell's videos. A lot of watchers out there would say this is high praise indeed! You, sir have gained another subscriber in myself now that I have had a chance to watch some of your vids.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@markej4801
@markej4801 4 жыл бұрын
A very thorough study with real life conclusions. Thanks for your hard work. Your study led me to buying this gas block for my .308 build.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Does it work well with .308? I have not tried it with different calibers.
@markej4801
@markej4801 4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelBellmbell556, I'll be finding out! Just received it this week and my brother and I will build the gun next week. :D Can't wait to see it in action!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
@@markej4801 Please post your results here so we can all see if it works with .308.
@bretaschleman8289
@bretaschleman8289 21 күн бұрын
Works well with my 308
@m.p.2482
@m.p.2482 3 жыл бұрын
Your video has helped me decide to get this gas block because of the bleed off feature. I'm running a 10.5 in barrel and want to mitigate the added pressure towards the rear of the rifle since the gas block is closer to the chamber. Thanks again.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Let then know you watched my video please.
@brianschaible3992
@brianschaible3992 4 жыл бұрын
Mike you should be very happy about this work. I'm very impressed. You have helped out tens of thousands on understanding the rifle and the gas block. Sup has a great product. I think this gb will be very useful with a carbine length sbr or pistol both sup and non sup. My only gripe is my settings will be different at 20 degrees vs 90 degrees. I'll have to hold a few numbers in my head. Cheers.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Zero-xc2pr
@Zero-xc2pr Жыл бұрын
I had to watch this several times to see that you covered all the bases. Good job. I bought the SA titanium. Haven't even tried it yet.
@ronjaime3493
@ronjaime3493 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome informative video, I've had my gas block for a year. I didnt completely understand how to adjust it so it bleeds the most suppressed, I only had 27 turns on it and I wasnt happy but didnt know it could get better. I cant wait to start at 40 and adjust from there.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@deanmaisey3460
@deanmaisey3460 7 жыл бұрын
Good objective and un-biased review. A shame about the little problems with some of the gear that were encountered on the day of filming. Consistency when doing tests is so important. Your comments about the 'erosion' claim were also spot-on i felt. Certainly some of those promotional claims could be considered overstatement, or a healthy does or artistic license ! Thanks for your time in putting the video together. Cheers, Dean.
@YukarisGearReviews
@YukarisGearReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. As someone who loads a large variety of calibers I could see the difference in velocity being extremely important for someone who wants to shoot PRS or ELR, as a difference of as much as 70 FPS could lead to an impact point changing several feet in one direction or the other when shooting long distances.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JohnDoe-zb7dz
@JohnDoe-zb7dz 3 жыл бұрын
A hidden gem of a review. I'm just now discovering this. This block is on my Spikes Roadhouse and I didn't know it. I will definitely tune my .308 down away from the 2'clock ejection. Man the recoil is violent. I have no desire to use the by pass. Thanks a lot!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jesperkofoed5712
@jesperkofoed5712 3 жыл бұрын
Just a quick hello from Denmark in Europe, and thank you sir for a great eksplanation of this gas block system.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@dmbmikee
@dmbmikee 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mr. Bell. You just taught me all I've wanted to know about gas blocks. Something that I've been dreading and avoiding to learn for years!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Check out my AR 15 Clinics if you get a chance.
@dmbmikee
@dmbmikee 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelBellmbell556 Thank you! I most certainly will. I've subscribed as well!
@luke8222
@luke8222 2 жыл бұрын
I got my first upper for my first ar15. It has a 16 in barrel with a carbine length gas system and 15 in mlok free floating handguard. From what I have been learning, I assume it will be overgassed. I think an adjustable gas block may help it. Could return the upper and get the exact one with a mid length gas system is my second option. Thank you for the EXCELLENT video!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
Try it like it is if you already have it. Factory uppers are often slightly overgassed so they can run weak ammo.
@righteousone8454
@righteousone8454 3 ай бұрын
That high ping from the piston is something else, like polishing steel with sandpaper
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 5 жыл бұрын
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@jimwilberforce2612
@jimwilberforce2612 6 жыл бұрын
I do love some good numbers. The tools involved probably cost as much as the gun itself, so thank you for doing this. If Green Mountain sold that finned barrel in a a wider variety... I'd have less money. You're the only demonstrator I've seen on youtube yet using that barrel, so bravo.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Please check out my channel if you get a chance.
@madisonresident4155
@madisonresident4155 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have thanked you but your videos have been so incredibly informative and helpful. I've learned a lot from you and am so happy I found these! thank you again!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Please feel free to share with friends.
@bullheadedgideon1673
@bullheadedgideon1673 Жыл бұрын
Got my sub. Absolutely love the the thorough testing & explanation. I think the only thing this video could use is chapters; but I see that this video was uploaded quite a long time ago. Great job, sir. 👍👍👍
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@freestatearmamentllc2837
@freestatearmamentllc2837 7 жыл бұрын
I noticed the exhaust gas in the restricted was blowing in your and past your face, in the bleed-off it was almost going straight up out of the ejection port. Watch your video you'll see what I'm saying. Nice review. I just purchased one. Quite & cleaner.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
I think this is because of less pressure entering the upper receiver. I did not notice the difference when I was shooting but reviewing the film does show this. Thanks.
@RV-ik2gy
@RV-ik2gy 6 жыл бұрын
Really great review without any silly "bro" talk.
@dagonatorish
@dagonatorish 2 жыл бұрын
The best breakdown I’ve ever seen. Thank you for your time and diligence!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@BuckFoeJiden
@BuckFoeJiden Жыл бұрын
A trick I've used in the past to cut bolt bounce with a light buffer is to just remove the buffer retaining pin. Allows the buffer to maintain constant pressure against the back of the BCG. Just makes field stripping a pain.
@MikeCopeland2636
@MikeCopeland2636 7 жыл бұрын
Well done, very educational! I am new to the "short and quiet" world. After my first quiet round I realized that the gas blowback was a new issue for me. When I opened it up for cleaning I discovered my second issue. :) It was obvious that excess gas and particulate was being dumped back into the action and into my face. There are cute "shields" for the charging handle and DIY "fixes" fixing the problem at the source is the obvious and correct answer. However, as a reloader, this adds another factor to the "recipe". Guess I'll have to do more research at the range!! :)
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
Reloading will give you even better control over the final performance. Doing this kind of research is a lot more fun than being inside a lab !! :o) Feel free to check out my channel and other videos. I am excited about a video I'll be doing in a couple of weeks on defensive ammunition. Research is key to making good decisions. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !
@Recce_randy
@Recce_randy 6 жыл бұрын
This was the only company that made a block for my fulton armory m110 than you for the amazing info definitely made my purchase easy
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@_ezra6217
@_ezra6217 Жыл бұрын
6 years ago? Wow this guy is great. He just needs a brand.
@weshoward4301
@weshoward4301 5 жыл бұрын
Phenomenally thorough work. Outstanding. I'm so glad sir I found this video as I was contemplating (now sure) this exact gas block for my suppressed build. Tip of the hat to you and dinner's on me if you ever get up my way. Bravo Zulu!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Please check out my channel if you get a chance.
@2S1L3NT
@2S1L3NT 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video my friend. Answered a lot of questions. I want max velocity so I'm definitely going restricted.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@OrangeAmped
@OrangeAmped 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth video. I'm putting together a 10.5-11.5" SBR together and trying to figure out the best way to keep it reliable both suppressed and unsupressed. Seems like an adjustable gas block is the way to go rather than having to mess around with buffer weights.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
One distinct advantage to the bleed-off design is that the excess gas is dumped out the front of the gas block and not in your face. Changing buffer weights will slow down the cyclic rate when you add a suppressor but all of that extra gas is still being dumped into the upper receiver. Either way will make it reliable but one is more pleasant. I just finished an upper build a few minutes ago that I will keep a suppressor on and I used this gas block.
@OrangeAmped
@OrangeAmped 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. I am also thinking about using a Battle Arms Development VERT PDW stock, which has a shorter than normal buffer tube/spring. So it would also help to tune the SBR to that particular stock's needs.
@marcgonzalez9547
@marcgonzalez9547 3 жыл бұрын
You and School of American Rifle are the zMost Imformative Channel@ THANK YOU
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jimyeats
@jimyeats 9 ай бұрын
The only place the bleed off could potentially provide some benefit is if you’re going from suppressed to unsuppressed or from subs to supers. Even then I’m doubtful it would actually change the overall amount of gas getting to the bolt carrier. I think all you would see is a proportional increase in both gas going to the BCG and gas being vented. The key to remember here is that no matter what, there is a minimum amount of gas that HAS to get to the BCG for the gun to function. Nothing can change that. The real question is whether the bleed off disproportionally allows more gas to vent when you add a suppressor or switch to supers, while still only allowing the appropriate amount to go to the BCG. Based on the velocity numbers it’s not really clear, as you would need to test suppressed vs unsuppressed on the same settings. Or subs vs supers at the same settings to compare. Either way, no reason to even consider using the bleed off feature unless you are changing from suppressed to unsuppressed or subs/supers.
@pewpew703
@pewpew703 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Do u know how long it took me to find this type of explanation? 🎉thank you (7 years later).
@dontask8979
@dontask8979 5 жыл бұрын
Great job explaning how they work. Subbed! 100% not ever close to how I figured it worked. I had no idea that on bleed off, you basically have a direct hole from the gas port to the bleed off hole. 🤨 I figured the gas pressurized the system, THEN it bleed off.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@BlaQBetty2018
@BlaQBetty2018 6 жыл бұрын
I love guns. I love science. I love analytics. You sir, have a new subscriber. Thanks for all of your work. Great job. And I am totally jealous that you have a rdias. Marriage has precluded that particular purchase for me hahahahaha.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I bought my DIAS years ago. The current prices are silly high. Family comes first.
@m.p.2482
@m.p.2482 3 жыл бұрын
When the video is slowed downed, it looks to me as if the barrel is a little more "bouncy" in the restricted mode than it is in the bleed off mode. That stands to reason. This video is the first one I've seen that has shown the effect bleeding off the gasses has on recoil. Thanks for the great video.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 3 жыл бұрын
That is a reasonable conclusion. The bullet is heading out with an extra 60 ft lb or so of energy. This was a useful data point for me because it represents a couple extra inches of barrel.
@jimyeats
@jimyeats Жыл бұрын
Hey there, any chance you will come back to making videos? I thoroughly enjoy your presentations and often refer back to them due to how thorough and comprehensive they are.
@gregmaggert8561
@gregmaggert8561 2 жыл бұрын
You earned my subscription. Awesome work. It was nice to see that many freedom seeds being sent. Maybe one day the ammo price will go back down.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so. Thanks for watching!
@zone6ranger
@zone6ranger 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the in-depth review!!! Helped me make an informed decision.
@12monkey57
@12monkey57 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video!
@othnielbendavid9777
@othnielbendavid9777 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@theseasidepunk
@theseasidepunk 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative, also very straight forward, professional and thorough. Thank you for taking the time to do this!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@john.pado2336
@john.pado2336 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Detail oriented and informative. I'm a simple man, I want .936 Adj GBs and reliable Piston conversion kits for AR-10 style projects. Not asking for an end to world hunger.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
Superlative Arms only has DI gas blocks in .936.
@john.pado2336
@john.pado2336 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Bell ya Iknow, it's disappointing. I feel like machining and torturing my own piston system to retrofit -10 style platform .
@pmadhorn89
@pmadhorn89 4 жыл бұрын
I had this gas block in mind for my ar10 308 pistol build after seeing this video and a couple other like it. While I just finally received my silencer, I had previously noticed with the SA in bleed off that it feels like there is much less gas directly in my face and eyes. I’d imagine that will be more pronounced with a suppressor mounted. I never used my SA gas block in restriction but compared to my stock lowpro gas block I can perceive less recoil and less gas directly in my face. Also my stock gas block was over gassed from the manufacturer and I always gas a nose full of gas and eyes watering after dumping a full mag.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
The excess gas goes forward away from your face.
@mikeunrue8110
@mikeunrue8110 16 күн бұрын
One of the things I noticed was the ejection angle of the spent casings. It moved from 4 o'clock (muzzle being 12 o'clock) to 2 o'clock towards the end of the mag dump. Maybe from the heat expansion of the internal parts allowing for slightly more gas flow. Meaning, going from and under gassed to slightly over gassed. I have been thinking about adding this gas block to my rifle to control muzzle rise and to get a faster follow-up shot. In your opinion, do you think this is a viable option?
@miserylovesshotguns
@miserylovesshotguns 7 жыл бұрын
How do you not have more subscribers? You give a way more detailed breakdown of the stuff you cover than most popular channels AND have a full auto lower!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
Well, tell your friends. I'm picking up subscribers steadily. I am new at this video thing but would be "playing" with my firearms anyway. This is just one of my retirement projects. Thanks!
@viviv1000
@viviv1000 Жыл бұрын
Great and very useful video sir! Saved me a lot of time and questioning regarding this gas block system.
@brianschaible3992
@brianschaible3992 4 жыл бұрын
In bleed off gas goes three ways. towards the receiver, towards the bleed port, towards the muzzle. Bleed off only takes out a portion of the gas headed to the muzzle. It's not a complete subtraction of muzzle gas from the system. Only some fraction. As you said. But bleed off helps to cut some decibels from the muzzle.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@JoeA418
@JoeA418 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is a old video but it is a great knowledge very well done Sir, on the subject of the CAN I believe the reason for the dB level increased because the chambers in the CAN was already full if you will imagine, the rate of gas being put in was to much for the baffling to effectively reduce so some was ejected forward without being routed through the baffling.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. You can see flame exiting the suppressor when on restriction and this does not occur in bleed off mode.
@antouab221
@antouab221 5 жыл бұрын
Purchased two of these gas blocks after watching this video, thx doc, and of course, liked and subscribed.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and subbing.
@willo7734
@willo7734 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Great info. I’m thinking about switching to an adjustable for my new build and you’ve greatly helped me think about how to approach testing it.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@JoeZelensky
@JoeZelensky 4 жыл бұрын
Really well done, very informative. It answered a bunch of questions I had, and some I didnt.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mederosalexis1
@mederosalexis1 5 жыл бұрын
I have 2 of these gas blocks and still haven't been able to tune it correctly. Lol. Hopefully I can use this video for reference next time I'm at the range to help me out. Thanks brother
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Liam-B
@Liam-B 7 жыл бұрын
First video of yours I have found. Vital content with great presentation and data. Thank you so much! I think I'm sold on this gas block too. Just one thing, MY EARS @15:00
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Please check out my channel and feel free to share with friends. :o)
@a.bizzle9699
@a.bizzle9699 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for using your time for this, excellent work!
@edwardhaas8085
@edwardhaas8085 4 ай бұрын
you did a great video very thorough
@TheMulk777
@TheMulk777 3 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis. Logical and clear. I'm a subscriber! Thanks! This convinced me to get the Superlative Arms instead of the Seekins Adjustable Gas Block.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@coryharris8417
@coryharris8417 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the way you break it down and make things very clear.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Please check out my channel if you have not had a chance to.
@mullins6154
@mullins6154 Жыл бұрын
Great video with a ton of info. It may just be me but it seems like the cycle rate was faster with the restrictive mode than the bleed off mode when doing the side by side at 24:05
@bobmedic3214
@bobmedic3214 4 ай бұрын
seems like the cycle rate is faster with the restrictive settings vs the bleeding off settings. That may be because of the heavier buffer change but it is interesting.
@jimadams9874
@jimadams9874 7 жыл бұрын
Video before asked what point noise was being tested . Inagree. & shootersmis only one that matters. Good job.
@jimadams9874
@jimadams9874 7 жыл бұрын
No restriction(excess) goes back out chamber into our face with a can on barrel more than into supressor.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
Right.
@brianschaible3992
@brianschaible3992 4 жыл бұрын
One stop education right here. I got all the info I needed. Thank you.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Please let Superlative know you liked my video.
@shramj
@shramj 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome testing, very impressive with how you did everything with your tests.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bejare2
@bejare2 6 жыл бұрын
All your videos have been super informative, going to share on my Facebook!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support.
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Mr. Bell, this is a longer question. In your experience what has been the best combination with buffers and springs (in combination with adjustable gas DI) to create the best light smooth recoil impulse? I've studied constant recoil designs in other systems and I'm torn. Ideally the buffer would have just enough push to reach the rear of the receiver extension without a lot of "thump" at the end of the stroke- that's pretty much a given. Part of me thinks a lighter buffer (maybe cut aluminium rod filled carbine buffer. bolt bounce sucks) with slight heavier spring. But, seeing as velocity is exponential in the kinetic energy equation I can also see a heavy buffer with a reduced recoil spring like a tubbs flatwound (more even force over distance) I know that is a clusterfrick of a question- but I have a feeling that you have analyzed some or all if that problem. What have you found in your experience?
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Get a KAK adjustable buffer kit and adjustable gas block and tune your particular rifle to your liking. The barrel and gas port in it are different with each rifle and will change what you need to soften recoil. Stick with standard or green spring for the action spring.
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelBellmbell556 Thank you! I have some tungsten weights around and some aluminium rod stock. I honestly never bothered beyond buffer weight with normal weight rifles. Then I bought one of the new KP15 lowers and put a medium-light stainless barrel on it. Very light and handy rifle that can shoot MOA. Its a winner. The barrel was drilled gassy. In a lighter rifle where lots of recip mass seems to make a more profound difference H3's felt awful. Your method is similar to my plan, so thanks! The AR is already a smooth running machine, but with this handy and accurate rifle I have made it a "project" to study and examine the finer points. Have a wonderful day!
@main183
@main183 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! This video helped me determine what gas block to get and how to adjust it. Thanks!
@zeroxwolfx
@zeroxwolfx 7 жыл бұрын
This is a great, and in depth video. That being said... this seems like a lot of work just to get gas to work...
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 7 жыл бұрын
It is not bad. I go slow with the steps for educational purposes. But it is nice to be able to fine tune your rifle. Look at the 15:00 mark on this video and see how consistent the brass ejection is. This is a smooth running system....kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbtxhch40rWwcYk.html
@c.m.7692
@c.m.7692 6 жыл бұрын
Majestic Mike!
@dz50790
@dz50790 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm just not sure that I trust my instrumentation and my techniques completely" Gave me chills.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 2 жыл бұрын
Honesty about one facet of my review.
@dz50790
@dz50790 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelBellmbell556 I come from a hard science background so it was extremely refreshing to see the qualities of a good experiment in your video. (to include a healthy dose of skepticism) Literally everything is laid out to allow repeatability by anyone who wanted to replicate your experiment
@kdcustoms1272
@kdcustoms1272 10 ай бұрын
Maybe you answered it in the video I just don't have time to watch it all. How many rounds have you got using these? Any issues? Thinking of putting one on my bull barrel build.
@EH-kz3if
@EH-kz3if 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, I haven't been able to find any info on this thing at all.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 8 жыл бұрын
I like the piston kit even better.
@richdouche6227
@richdouche6227 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know running a restricted gas block setting on any gas block will aid velocity on an overgassed rifle. Thanks for info.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I like discovering new things. It all makes sense if you think about it. Please feel free to browse around my channel if you get a chance.
@signkutter9218
@signkutter9218 Жыл бұрын
One thing that i didnt hear accounted for...do you use the lightest buffer and buffer combo in order to utilize the full advantage of the adjustable gas block?
@mjbrennan99
@mjbrennan99 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. When you take great numbers like these, you should follow up with some basic CHI-SQUARE tests to figure out if the differences in velocity are "statistically" significant.
@bejare2
@bejare2 6 жыл бұрын
Sick as beats man like the intro!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@brianschaible3992
@brianschaible3992 4 жыл бұрын
Quarter turn per click. Four and half total turns for the restriction settings. That's 18 total clicks of adjustment range in the restriction phase.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
correct
@RS5Fanatic
@RS5Fanatic 3 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to have seen a comparison, with actual numbers, of rate of fire between restrictive/bleed off with and without the silencer. I think that's going to be the best indicator of the ability for the SA to bleed off enough gas to make it effective long term when it comes to reliability vs something like a flow-through suppressor.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Spend some time on my channel if you get a chance.
@JamieR2077
@JamieR2077 3 жыл бұрын
@28:23 So sounds like you're saying that the difference between restrictive and bleed off are minimal. Especially if you aren't suppressing. Thanks for the great video! I couldn't understand the point of bleed off and it doesn't seem like it's going to add anything to my non- suppressed 308 AR-10!
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. The differences are more pronounced when suppressed for sure.
@Physics072
@Physics072 2 жыл бұрын
So you are saying that with the gas block closed (off or like having no gas port) you gain 70 fps in a 223? I'd seen other tests of gas closed vs gas block open the the velocity was only 28 fps difference.
@jwheelgun
@jwheelgun 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Bell, thanks for producing such great content. I’ve built a 10.5 inch, .556 suppressor host with a superlative arms adjustable gas block. Do you think it’s worth it to upgrade to the superlative arms gas piston system? I’ll be running this build suppressed 95% of the time. The only benefit of this upgrade I can think of is that it’d keep the system cleaner. Am I missing anything? Have you noticed any difference in noise between the two systems? Thanks in advance.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
It would be a little cleaner. I do not think you would be able to appreciate a difference in sound. Suppressed is so much dirtier way that I am not sure it would be worth the effort and money unless you just want to have a piston. You would notice the difference in how dirty it gets more when un-suppressed. If you were running it without a suppressor 95% of the time then yes, convert to a piston and reap the bennifits.
@jwheelgun
@jwheelgun 4 жыл бұрын
That clears up a lot for me. Thank you for your response and for getting back to me so quickly.
@MichaelBellmbell556
@MichaelBellmbell556 4 жыл бұрын
@@jwheelgun Thanks for watching and for the kind words. Please check out my channel if you get a chance.
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