MSN TV - Exploring Microsoft's Old TV Platform!
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@MichaelMJD Жыл бұрын
A couple of things worth mentioning as I'm seeing some repeat comments: DreamPi generates/simulates dial tone that the MSN TV/WebTV's modem listens for. A dedicated dial tone generator is not necessary to make this work. I didn't address this in the video so I figured I post here to clear things up. I am aware of the "wait for dial tone" option in the MSN TV 2's settings menu. I actually recorded turning this off and trying to connect a few times, but it didn't change anything because if the MSN TV can't pick up dial tone, it means that DreamPi isn't outputting it through its USB modem (thus meaning that it isn't working properly). In this case, that was the issue because I didn't have a compatible modem. I cut this from the video for brevity because I had determined that the lack of a compatible modem was the culprit. And as I had suspected, the MSN TV 2 just isn't compatible with these custom servers. Thanks to the members of the WebTV community for confirming this! I am currently on the lookout for some older WebTV stuff to feature in future videos. This definitely won't be the last time you hear me talk about this stuff!
@hasankayra04 Жыл бұрын
Well, i have a idea. I am not expert at this stuff but i am hoping at least this could get you to reach to server. How about a local dns? If you can change the dns server of the msn tv then you can just create a local dns record for server the msn tv is trying to reach to. Pi-hole should do the trick, it might not be intended for this but since it has a web interface it's easy to manage. And also you can learn where msn tv is trying to go from query log.
@JarHead3894 Жыл бұрын
@@hasankayra04 I've tried this with my MSN TV 2 already, the box tries to reach an HTTPS "headwaiter" server that is completely incompatible with WebTV, as WebTV's services use a custom protocol called WTVP, instead of the web APIs that MSN TV 2 uses
@louism771 Жыл бұрын
In my experience with the dreampi it's very important which modem you use, because the pi's operating system must have drivers for its chipset. And there aren't many compatible ones out there. The Dell one is most referenced, but there's also a Lenovo modem with the exact same chipset. If it's recognized by the pi and the dreampi software is listening, then both LEDs on the modem will light up. Your line voltage inducer is right between the American and the European spec, but most modem hardware is pretty tolerant accepting anything between maybe 7V to 20V, so 15V should be totally alright, mine is 17V. If you get it to work and want to simplify the inducer then you can use a DC-DC step up module connected to one of the pi's 5V supplying ports supplying the voltage to the line, as there isn't much current involved. Then you might need the resistor+capacitor installed though.
@devinwalker9202 Жыл бұрын
What resources did you use to connect to get the image to dial into those servers? I can't find anything online.
@RealOscarMay Жыл бұрын
Yes! I would love to see Webtv stuff
@espresso8bp Жыл бұрын
old tech videos are probably the most enjoyable thing on this channel for me right now
@nikolan123 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@aaronsells1690 Жыл бұрын
I still like retrospective vids a bit more
@ttraynor10 Жыл бұрын
On this whole app honestly
@imgladnotu9527 Жыл бұрын
os tans were funny imo
@slasheffecttech Жыл бұрын
same
@MarcoGPUtuber Жыл бұрын
You wanna know something better than MSN TV? MJD TV.
@MarcoGPUtuber Жыл бұрын
@Flare I always view MJD on a TV. With my gaming desktop hooked up to a TV. It counts!
@zefievideo Жыл бұрын
28:36 this is correct. My server (minisrv) is for the first generation of MSNTV boxes, MSNTV2 is much different, and was built on WinCE (some error dialogs would say "Tap OK to continue"). We do not have enough data on the service side to recreate it. If you get one of the original boxes, everything you tried should work, including the server. You were definitely on the right path, just using the wrong MSNTV box :) As for the MSNTV2 the best it can do nowadays is Linux. Good video none-the-less. Looking forward to seeing you play with the original boxes.
@satoshiwasareptiloid3777 Жыл бұрын
What kind of data on the server/service side are you missing? If people have put Linux on it, I assume people have full access to the original software, so can't you just dump stuff in Ghidra to figure out the protocols and whatnot?
@zefievideo Жыл бұрын
@@satoshiwasareptiloid3777 Putting linux on it just exploits the bios to boot linux instead of a signed CE kernel. To replicate the actual service (it was a thin web client so most features were server side) we would need the server files, or better documentation of the proprietary headers and such. But there wasn't as much interest in the TV2 as the original, because by the time the TV2 came out, PCs were more affordable. So less people used it, thus less exploration and documentation.
@411WebTV Жыл бұрын
I'd also like to point out that according to another comment here and from doing some of my own research, MJD is most likely using a 2Wire PCP-1 DSL adapter for his DreamPi setup, which only supports 10 Mbps connections and definitely does not do dial-up. ~ wtv-411
@411WebTV Жыл бұрын
@@pizzadoge2958 What zefie literally said in his comment: "We do not have enough data on the service side to recreate it." Please pay attention when reading next time. ~ wtv-411
@Sypaka Жыл бұрын
@@zefievideo Is there a dump of the BIOS or at least a dump of the memory which has the setup files to config the box?
@NoahClevinger Жыл бұрын
Anything that is MSN-related is so nostalgic for me. Thanks for covering this, Michael!
@linuxstreamer8910 Жыл бұрын
this brings back memories of msn messenger
@hypocritical7379 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@linuxstreamer8910 Жыл бұрын
@@hypocritical7379 the logo of msm
@Emayeah Жыл бұрын
michael is the best :)
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
Yea but while i miss the era i don't miss msn or other Microsoft related stuff from back then i mostly get nostalgic for the old msn page because it was always the first thing i saw when i went online in the 2000s before i discovered i could install better browsers in 2011 but the msn front page was really cheesy even back then with all the celebrity gossip and other stuff that i find so dull and a waste of space and then having to get to google not knowing i could just set google as my start page.
@lunarcrystal6219 Жыл бұрын
there’s something about these early 2000s tech products that just seem so futuristic. even though it’s been like 20 years later and we definitely have much better technology. i don’t know, it’s just so fascinating.
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
Ikr?
@TailRecursion Жыл бұрын
Never had one of these, but I remember seeing them on display in Best Buy as a kid. Always thought the idea of using the internet on my TV was so cool.
@haloschafer 2 ай бұрын
I’m here to install MSN TV. It’s internet, for your TV!
@LSGSUZFE Жыл бұрын
I've been preaching about WebTV so much recently. I was only 4-5 years old when my family owned one. Sitting on the floor staring at the city skyline as it loads forever. I always thought as a kid that you could reach the city. I messed with the WebTV all the time at that age. While I didn't understand a lot of the things I was navigating, I knew how to navigate it. I remember navigating and finding a picture of roses and excitedly pulled my mother over to tell her "I got you flowers." We ended up moving and honestly don't know what had happened to it. Such a nostalgic video, thank you.
@rabbyklinger Жыл бұрын
You might need to try using a DTMF tone (dial tone) generator, so that the dialup connection from the msntv doesn't think the line is busy. Usually no tone on a phone line indicates either busy or no connection. (I am a former telecom systems engineer)
@TFD500Official Жыл бұрын
audacity does DTMF tones, right?
@billhgong Жыл бұрын
This is my theory as well. When I build my own dial server I have to use a hard modem (not a win modem with USB like in the video) on the server side and a analog adapter for line voltage and DTMF. Apparently most client modems out there needs a proper phone setup to even dial at all.
@Anaerin Жыл бұрын
The DreamPi software uses the VoiceMail functionality from some modems to play a fake "Dialtone" (and listen for the incoming DTMF number tones), so it pretends to be a working line. Evidently the modem Michael is using doesn't support that function.
@samspin Жыл бұрын
@@Anaerin Years ago before DreamPi I used to use a Skutch AS-26 Line simulator between a modem on my PC and my Dreamcast. The simulator waits until one end "takes the phone off the hook", emulates a dial tone for a set number of seconds and then sends a ringing signal to the other end. It was originally designed for telesales companies to do practice sales between two rooms without using the live phone network. It was enough to bridge the Dreamcast to my PC, as quite a few games don't support "blind dial" and insist on waiting for a dial tone. As traditional PSTN is being switched off in my country by 2025 I'm for keeping hold of it.
@MichaelMJD Жыл бұрын
DreamPi generates the dial tone that the MSN TV/WebTV listens for. The issue in this case is just that I didn't have a modem compatible with DreamPi. Plus (as I suspected) the MSN TV 2 just isn't compatible with these custom servers.
@kanpaifighto Жыл бұрын
Oh man…I had the WebTV precursor to this back in ‘96/97…it was my first and only exposure to the net back then and it was life changing, despite being absolutely terrible in retrospect lol. I’m more just impressed they were still trying concepts like this by 2004.
@acupuncturekid Жыл бұрын
I had a web tv unit as well. People were home brewing their own word processor programs and kill codes and everything. IT was truly a unique experience.
@southtexaspicker9394 Жыл бұрын
@@acupuncturekid I loved the chat rooms. I was on it about 1998ish to 2001.
@n0madfernan257 Жыл бұрын
your tenacity to make these old devices work is golden
@TheGameDisplay Жыл бұрын
Hearing 'MSN' is always such a blast from the past. You could be chatting on MSN Messenger while watching your MSN TV and reading the current happenings on MSN News. It felt like a friendlier time before the whole world was owned and run by Google. Thank you for the video.
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
Or MSNBC
@WedgeStratos Жыл бұрын
It's definitely the USB modem you're using. DreamPi's Python scripts have only been written with the Lenovo/Dell modems that internally use a Conexant RD02-D400 chipset. The Dreamcast and WebTV/MSN TV communities have not found a USB modem alternative, which we have some concern about, seeing as these modems are becoming harder to find.
@NormanF62 Жыл бұрын
The browser needs to be updated. Its broken. Microsoft today uses the Chromium-based Edge so replacing the proprietary browser on the WebTV/MSN TV 1st gen set top boxes is a lot of coding work! A thin client modern web browser set top box remains a dream.
@DeLorean4 Жыл бұрын
The TV remote uses the same plastic injection molding tool as the one for the XBox DVD kit.
@wolfetteplays8894 Жыл бұрын
Might as well, gotta be efficient
@djc604 Жыл бұрын
I was part of their Partner Support, doing tech support for this device back in 2007. Up until now, I never knew what this thing looked like. Thanks for showing me after all these years
@crockstonyt 2 ай бұрын
Do you have any funny stories about your time in tech support?
@tjnucnuc Жыл бұрын
Oh my god. Thank you so much for covering MSNTV. I was waiting for one of you guys to cover it and glad it was you. I grew up with a single mother and all we could afford was MSNTV 😂 I remember my mom ordering me a train set from it. The background music totally brings back memories and the speed was SO terribly slow. We really stepped up into the upper echelons when we upgraded to an eMachines desktop with XP 😅
@kbhasi Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect you to make this video! Back in 2005, I wanted an MSN TV 2 after I randomly browsed MSN and came across the website for it, but I couldn't afford it at the time and I don't think it was even available outside of the US anyway, so I just dreamt about having one for a while, before I eventually discovered the next best thing, that being hooking up a PC (desktop or laptop) to the TV through the S-Video output of the GPU, which also allowed me to use full MSN Messenger and also use Firefox instead of Internet Explorer, as well as mIRC and all the other great stuff I could already use on Windows XP.
@lolodachi Жыл бұрын
Nice! That XP baseball player is back in the background! It's always gonna be a good video when it's about old and obscure tech, love discovering this kind of piece of technological history!
@JarHead3894 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually working on an original WebTV server based on minisrv, there's nothing quite like working with something to make you hate it
@thexkey Жыл бұрын
there is also eMac's server lol
@JarHead3894 Жыл бұрын
@@thexkey There is, but it doesn't have features like Page Builder and Favorites
@RaysGamingChannel2003 Жыл бұрын
@@JarHead3894 yeah
@BilisNegra Жыл бұрын
@@thexkey What do you mean by eMac server?
@richdaley9982 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! My parents who were members of the "greatest generation" had a WebTV as their first internet device in the late 90s/early 2000s. They had never owned a computer. I remember it ran the MSN software after Microsoft bought out WebTV. They were able to watch my kids grow up by getting pictures via email and visiting a geocities website I created. My father also enjoyed reading history articles and information about the Korean War (in which he fought). It gave my parents great pleasure late in their lives. I have occasionally thought about WebTV and looked for videos about it from retro tech youtubers but there is not much out there. I am already a subscriber and I am so glad you gave me this trip down memory lane.
@kantraa Жыл бұрын
i'd like to see you do a video on the Netpliance i-Opener. it was simply yet another internet appliance on the surface, running QNX, but tinkerers quickly found a way to install Windows 98 on it and upgrade the chipset. a lot of people were using the i-Opener as their "backup computer" so to speak, and Netpliance actually welcomed these people for a short while before making getting their dialup service required to purchase the device and redirecting the tinkerers to their developer program.
@MichaelMJD Жыл бұрын
May or may not be a video in the works about this ; )
@MitsubishiGTO Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMJD Do one on TiVo!
@attack0nmem0ry Жыл бұрын
Definitely looking forward to seeing more dives into ancient WebTV hardware. 🍻
@-ThePharaoh- Жыл бұрын
Awesome.. Man you're so dedicated to your videos.. No matter the time it takes.... You just keep going till you get the video done......thanks very much for your hard work to entertain us for free.
@will0499 Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I really love your videos. I haven’t seen many of them for a while, but I’m getting back into them.
@woohoo2491 Жыл бұрын
Dude I miss XP-era design. Before Vista's Aero, after 9x's grey, there was XP's bright, happy, cheerful design scheme. It was all about bright colors, sunshine, with some nature shots mixed in for good measure. Everything MS related from 2001-2005 seemed to follow this.
@juanignacioaschura9437 Жыл бұрын
With the cherry on top being the Blades Dashboard in the XBOX360, right at the end of that golden age.
@VeritasVortex Жыл бұрын
Yes! That was my favourite design of all time!
@VeritasVortex Жыл бұрын
@@juanignacioaschura9437 Yes!!! I miss the blades design. That was so cool!
@misham6547 Жыл бұрын
I'm the opposite I always thought that era was a bit ugly, I prefer the look of pre XP windows and Vista onwards
@leigel3 Жыл бұрын
@@misham6547 Same. I always thought it felt childish.
@mind-of-neo Жыл бұрын
That thing looks so "2000s futurism" i love it ❤️
@gabenewelltheprotector3548 10 ай бұрын
Was watching an 11 hour X-play comp, and seen the ad. I'm so glad you had a video about this already!
@realraymondsp Жыл бұрын
There are actually two things you can try with the modem you have. One is to simulate a dial tone with a 500 HZ tone. Or two increase the voltage. A standard POTS voltage was 48 volts before digital phone service became a thing.
@aaronjamt Жыл бұрын
I've been working on a project (unrelated to this) that communicates with an old device via dialup. I have a 24 (I also tried 36) volt DC signal from a bench power supply connected to the tip and ring lines and I have connected both a landline phone and the device to those lines. Would playing 500hz into the phone's microphone while off-hook make the other device think it's dialing? If so, how would I make it think that I picked up the other end of the phone? Just stop the 500hz after a few seconds?
@blu9821 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping that you get an actual MSN TV on your hands... I literally searched for MSN TV and had nice tunes on their era, it was so nostalgic even though I didn't have it on their time
@PCWindowstechguy Жыл бұрын
MSN in general is very nostalgic nowadays but I really didn't knew that Microsoft ,also made an MSN TV box. Anyways. I really enjoy it whenever you publish new and interesting videos. Keep up with the great work Michael MJD!
@Andrew_G4CH Жыл бұрын
Ooh! Can’t wait for the follow up. I used mum’s webtv when my windows machine died for a short bit of time years ago. Ton of nostalgia!
@asanaya94 Жыл бұрын
Wow so many things that brought back so many memories!! Especially the 2WIRE DSL adapter!!
@zonger420 Жыл бұрын
I had a Sony WebTv when they came out. I remember my friend and me was super happy to have it. It took forever to load even a text based website. Yet we sat for hours messing around with the early days of the web.
@ifur Жыл бұрын
Technically you should be able to setup a proxy server locally to direct requests from msntv2 box to your desired ip address. Webtv and msntv dont have an ethernet port it was dialup only so thats why the tutorials use a modem. If we can know the servers are the same then we can just forward requests directly from msntv2 to that ip address.
@Caun-88 Жыл бұрын
Just seeing the early 2000s MSN butterfly again echoes the MSN Messenger sounds in my ears
@dadoftwinsau Жыл бұрын
How can you not love your choice of ‘outro music’?? ❤️😂
@kyanoang3l0_old Жыл бұрын
Never knew MSN TV was a thing till shortly before it was discontinued. Internet on TV never crossed our minds back in the early 2000s. The only TV stuff I knew from Microsoft was Windows Media Center on Windows Vista and 7, which I hope you'd cover in the future. I thought being able to watch cable TV on my PC was revolutionary back then.
@RailroadedFilms Жыл бұрын
I had both WebTV and MSN TV. I wanted the one that came with a a mouse, but never happened. My family couldn't afford a computer and I built websites using this thing for a good part of four years! My dad used his until around 2009! I'd obviously had moved on by then, but they were cool if you were poor.
@gabrielv.4358 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! I never seen that before, all the tech we didn't have in Brazil is insane.
@blainepalmerza Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Michael!
@maxtech66999 Жыл бұрын
I love your outro and intro.
@mini_ika_musume Жыл бұрын
When it was first released as WebTV in 1996, it was technically a weapon in the United States because it had an early form of cryptography, similar to SSL that we take for granted. So WebTV could not be exported even to "western" countries like Ireland and Japan. In 1998, they got a special licence, and then laws were changed to generally allow the export of cryptography.
@JustPyroYT Жыл бұрын
Great and Interesting Video as always! 👍
@CubeAtlantic Жыл бұрын
This video is legit boosting-up memories of MSM :D
@ramcoonart Жыл бұрын
Now everyone's using smart TVs... how times change. Great video, I hope you can get it working!
@xKB616 Жыл бұрын
That RCA remote. Not only was it packaged for this and their own stuff, there was the universal RCA remote that they sold, too. The OG Xbox dvd playback kit was this remote in the black color, but instead of the standard RCA button colors, they were Xbox green.
@ProjectNoiSsy Жыл бұрын
Two quick thoughts on the issues: - POTS usually uses 48VDC - Modems usually don’t output a line-free dial tone on their own. Maybe there’s an AT command for your specific modem, or you might be able to pick up some used PBX (private branch exchange, i.e. a system from some defunct callcenter) since those definitely will produce appropriate voltages and DTMF signals. Really interesting video though, didn’t know anything about those boxes. Looking forward for a Part 2. 😄
@ProjectNoiSsy Жыл бұрын
Already figured the modem might be problematic, given it’s lack of response. Since not knowing anything else about these boxes, I wouldn’t be surprised to see at least some response if the „line“ matched what should be expected on regular POTS though.
@Sypaka Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to put a dialtone on the line? Some transistors or breadboard wiring scheme avail for that kind of thing?
@ProjectNoiSsy Жыл бұрын
If it’s pulse-tone modulation, a transistor might work since this scheme only uses „clicks“, which means some voltage pulses to sense line signals. On DTMF it’s certainly a little more complicated since frequency changes are used - but even Audacity offers such a generator, the audio just needs to be fed into the line then. There should also be documentation on DTMF line signals available - I would just have to check if I’ve still got my training manuals on it.
@owenvogelgesang7314 Жыл бұрын
11:14 So, funnily enough, RCA actually does still have an office there, or at least their sign is still up. It's in a part of a Klipsch Audio building, you can see it from the street view off I465. They also had another building down at 465 and US 31, the gigantic checkerboard 90s green maroon and yellow building. Not that I think they'd accept your MSN TV warranty card anymore, lol
@regnt9044 Жыл бұрын
These old odd hidden gems never stop to surprising me... I mean, MSNTV2, Really!?!? I remember an episode of Computer Chronicles where they showed many different types of WebTVs from different brands and gonna admit they were cool but I never thought Microsoft had done anything like this. This is the first time watching one "in action/partially" and tbh is absolutely interesting.
@ameenie Жыл бұрын
I'm not old enough to feel nostalgic about msn, but damn isn't it interesting
@kidgarbage Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Masashi2012 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god I remember this thing. My family had one when I was super young and my parents used it to sell things on ebay. It took a litteral quarter day to connect.
@markrayers9675 Жыл бұрын
I've Been Watching Your Channel For Over A Year.
@suddenlyvlogs Жыл бұрын
Holy nostalgia. We had WebTV back in the day (predecessor of MSNTV if I remember correctly, which is doubtful at best lol) and I remember instant messaging my aunt on it!
@ivysvids Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how cool that set top box looks, and the keyboard, I'd have that stuff today if it was internally modern. I love the branding too, I'd have wanted one of these had I known they were a thing when I was a kid growing up in the late 90s to 00s
@nickjuly4A Жыл бұрын
You could get an ATA device (like one of those Cisco SPA) devices and connect one line to the raspberry pi (via the modem) and one to the MSN 2 and configure the ATA to connect to the other line. This way will simulate a real working telephone line so it will work without the voltage inducer. I've done with with an old UFO Apple airport extreme as a dial-in server for an old laptop with only a modem.
@ChrissehCat Жыл бұрын
Oh man, such a shame I threw out my old WebTV over a year ago. If I'd known there was a community for it, I might've held on to it. I've got some fun memories about that thing... had very old model (was already a few years old in 2000 when I used it) Trolls in TalkCity chatrooms could easily flood your IM and my whole machine would just shut down and I'd have to turn it on and dial in again. 😂
@dovix Жыл бұрын
Damn, you dude show me tech I never even knew existed!
@CoreyWilson Жыл бұрын
Found one of these in box at savers and almost bought it. Glad I can watch this and actually check it out lol
@bluebugaboo3344 Жыл бұрын
4:41 What a nice coincidence that the hole in the letter P fits perfectly!
@Zakko64 Жыл бұрын
I actually own a WebTV, to be exact a Philips Magnavox Internet TV Terminal Model MAT965KB. It’s cool that you made a video on WebTV/MSNTV, great video. 👍
@frankzappa3834 Жыл бұрын
My grandma had one!! Blast from the past.
@jargon343 Жыл бұрын
Been a little bit since I have sat down to watch one of your videos lol, you got a new table? looks pretty cool
@GilBatesLovesyou Жыл бұрын
I used WebTV once in around 2003 on vacation at a timeshare that had it. My mom paid $10-15 to let me use it for an hour, and I used AIM Express and went on some anime forums I was on back then. It did work, but was very very clunky. Not much less clunky than using AIM on my Nokia non-smart phone then, I think it had no mouse and had trouble tabbing between windows. As a kid though, it was fun. As an adult now, for over a decade now I've just had my PC hooked to a TV as a monitor, going from 19, to 32, to 55 inches, and built my own sort of "WebTV" for myself as my bedroom setup, so I definitely was inspired a lot by the original WebTV, to create my own "smart TV" before they even really were a thing. Also what's interesting is we see a lot of things now like Smart TVs, smartphones, etc, that we think are all new things, but a lot is even in the consumer realm it's just about being an early vs late adopter. WebTV attempted to be a "Smart TV" but even with things like smartphones, I was using AIM on my Nokia dumb phones in 2002-2003, and could watch .3gp videos on my feature phones in 2004-2005, along with mp3s, etc, before the iPhone came out. Even Twitter started out as an SMS service for these early phones.
@FreeJulianAssangeNow Жыл бұрын
That remote is strikingly similar to the Microsoft Xbox DVD Remote Playback Kit.
@kylekartgaming Жыл бұрын
Ay the remote look similar to the Xbox remote! I have an Xbox with the Media kit thing.
@kyeongsushin3145 Жыл бұрын
Rocket is a Korean alkaline cell brand (which is still kinda alive, but not as popular nowadays). Didn't know that it was also available in other countries.
@alitavakoli2149 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@willcartoons 5 ай бұрын
I had already moved on to the iMac by the time this came out. But I really enjoyed the trip back in time. Honestly, what Microsoft did with WebTV was really cool 🙂
@AaronEdwards Жыл бұрын
This brings back memories. I actually focus grouped the first one. Bought U2 tickets with the stipend.
@Kyle-xv5kv Жыл бұрын
Dude you need to find a "My MSN Companion" it would be amazing to see one of those things.
@echan7301 Жыл бұрын
I am definitely looking forward to future update about the MSN tv 2 situation.
@flyabusa Жыл бұрын
I worked at an internet provider in the mid 90s to early 2000s. Every once in a blue moon I'd come across a customer or two running WebTV.
@sammy61187 Жыл бұрын
To be continued which I'm really looking forward to
@royfugate Жыл бұрын
My first one was a web TV plus with built in TV tuner. surf the web and read about a show, hit the button, and tune right to the channel. or be watching a show or movie, and during the commercials click links to get taken to the website for the products. i also still got my "whats on the web" guide book it came with, and about 120 vhs tapes of stuff (websites,pics,vid clips,chatroom's, etc) i recorded off of it.
@staple5335 Жыл бұрын
nice piece you got there
@healthyking9999 Жыл бұрын
It was either this or the AOL version, but when it was first introduced, I somehow managed to order one of these when I was a kid. It showed up at my mom’s house and she was PISSED!! Lol. The thing was equivalent to almost $500 now.
@jermoblaa6781 Жыл бұрын
I do have an older WebTV box, it's a Philips MAT972 that works AWESOME with the HackTV stuff. MattMan helped me out with getting connected and getting the right tools. I even did some testing with using an SD card as a replacement for the hard drive since mine was on its way out. The Dell Modem (if you can find it without the voltage inducer) is really the only one that works, I did the same thing trying different ones with no luck. I wanted to get the one from DreamPi since it had the voltage inducer built in, but it was usually out of stock when I'd try to order. It's a shame that the MSN TV 2 doesn't work, at least not yet.
@lord_hormiga Жыл бұрын
Just what I needed to kill boredom after exams :)
@John_Locke_108 Жыл бұрын
MSNtv. I remember hearing about this and my mind just went crazy thinking about the possibilities. Never actually used one but based what I heard, I wasn't missing out.
@cmheinrich1 Жыл бұрын
Man I remember that connecting to web TV screen. Saw that alot when I had on when I was in high school
@alexis_evo Жыл бұрын
Clicked on this for WebTV nostalgia. Ended up getting hit with toc2rta nostalgia. Was an ircop there after talking Greg into linking the dashhacks server to it. That feels like three lifetimes ago...
@CrS0CrashPL Жыл бұрын
I guess it has to be the USB modem or the DreamPi config, as I've used a similar setup (but with that recommended Dell USB modem) to both play Dreamcast online and get other devices on the internet without any problems. However if you don't want to buy another modem, you can use any old notebook running lightweight Linux distro with an internal modem and ethernet/wireless (any from the XP era will work just fine - I'm more than sure you have a couple of them stashed away ;)) in a similar way. Before I had the DreamPi setup running, I used an old Dell Inspiron to get online on Dreamcast and it worked equally well.
@qm3ster Жыл бұрын
What was the reason they had to use dialup hardware and not the "broadband" connection?
@LOGoltem4682 Жыл бұрын
I hope you can get it to work, it looks cool! :D
@mattafaak Жыл бұрын
The remote control is very reminiscent of the original Xbox DVD remote. As it turns out, the MSN TV 2 and OG Xbox both share the same type and speed of CPU.
@maroon9273 11 ай бұрын
I'm surpise msn tv never made its way to the xbox.
@usermanico Жыл бұрын
beautiful box, is not a bad idea, especially for the time
@Gadgetman1989 Жыл бұрын
I remember having one of these, but the old WebTV unit, I never got it fully online but always was curious about the interface, and how there was possibly some upgrades if you're handy with the soldering iron, mine was the Phillips Magnavox unit, I really wish I had it still to try to get it online today
@RobertPendell Жыл бұрын
I was a beta tester for MSN TV. Had a pre-release unit that they let us keep. No I don't have it anymore.
@Match451 Жыл бұрын
That hand held remote looks very much like the Xbox remote that comes with the DVD kit.
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
15:18 lmao my internet just went down when i was watching that part.
@Canleaf08 Жыл бұрын
There was a trend in 2005 or so with the Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition. I do not know any computer which was sold specifically as a living room PC with that OS...
@teh-maxh Жыл бұрын
Did you disable the setting to wait for a dial tone? I can see that it exists at the bottom of "basic dialling settings" but the actual setting is below the fold. (Of course, that won't help much since the server isn't compatible, but it might be interesting to see what sort of error message you get when you try to connect.)
@66rabidmonkey Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that you got Jeff Goldblum to record the ADR for your video ;)
@nosajgames Жыл бұрын
Please do WebTV! Remember when my step dad brought this home and was blown away. Miss these times
@fh5h Жыл бұрын
oh yes a classic MJD video when everything gose wrong
@B35K3 Жыл бұрын
You gotta make a part 2. :D
@KJsGotGame Жыл бұрын
Msntv was a great gateway for people who weren't tech savvy to connect online for the first time. My grandparents had it who would've never bothered using the internet otherwise.
@topfacemod Жыл бұрын
I got WebTV for Christmas 1998 at 14 yo. I was mesmerized by the world wide web. In Feb of 2002 I finally got my first PC...an HP with a CD-RW which was pretty damn cool at that time.
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