I was thinking the same thing!

While I do like him, better its a tad too dry and not enough juicy examples

cheapbstard it's comforting to know that i'm not an alien.

E8_bit Along with INFJs. I mean Jung is a good example lol

+Elvena Fae Jung is an intp

I mean gainning confidence is important soooo....

Probably because we feel like aliens. Naturally, we want to know why.

I always feel so confuse with my body for the longest of time... My method is to always look at the mirror or took pictures of myself from all angles and analyze it, so i could feel more connected

I am very much in tune with my body and I feel most comfortable when getting to express physical effectiveness, like when crafting or working out. The separation of body and mind is detrimental to all human experience and is a tragic misstep in our understanding of our existence. The outer world however, that's outside my direct reach to manipulate, is strange and unfamiliar and that very much include other people, and groups of them even more so.

​@@cornyBandit I'm curious about this, as a physical therapist and fellow intj. May I ask if you do any regular physical activity that includes several aspects of fitness, like strength, agility and coordination?

@@cornyBandit Same. When I started a skincare regiment for my face, and was able to see the results, I was slowly able to start feeling more connected to my body. Taking care of it forces you to feel more connected to it.

@@cornyBandit wow. interesting. I think for me I was a bit unhappy for a while and I never bothered much to examine my body in order to feel a deeper connection but! A few years ago I went through a phase of maturity. It wasnt a conscious choice but I soon found I didnt mind looking at my body.

I have told this to people daily for years... this is exactly me lol

Sean Jankowski yes yes yes this is just too true

that's also true for me

Your comments are me too. I have an obsession about car number plates. As I know the British system, when I go abroad, I have to try and figure out the system used to produce car number plates.

Me tooooo

+Michael Pierce You deserve it!

+Michael Pierce I've watched several MBTI videos on youtube. Yours are undoubtedly the best. Your functional analysis is spot on, and I just love the way you brush aside the stereotypes and focus on the essence of MBTI types. (ok, is that enough NF validation for you. I have to ask because being an INTJ I'm not so good at this validation thing.)

Veritech Ace I genuinely appreciate that -- thank you :)

as an intj, this is the best, most accurately descriptive analysis I have found

sn0w]V[an i agree

Yes. We are dominant introverted perceiving types. Te is the culprit behind all of the stereotypes... we're actually chill.

@@angel79nunn well I'm also an INTJ but I'm clueless about art. So there's that🤣🤣🤣

Here

Me

+MrTopGunnar here

+MrTopGunnar present

+MrTopGunnar here

I'm an INTJ and I share a room with one of my sisters whom is an INTP. We have some of the most strange, yet intriguing conversations. Now we need to just find the extroverted versions of ourselves, lol.

Emily Gardner I hate my INTP brother.. he fell into the infinity trap... he wont get out of it.. can you help me out here. No matter how much times I say not to worry about infinity for now because it cant be proven or disprove.. he still tries to find an end..it consumed him...

DanusMax Wow really? Me and my sister get along really well. Then again, I also get along really well with my ISTP sister. lol my family just doesn't understand sibling rivalries. They make no sense to us. And infinity trap? Never heard of it. Must be awful though, by the sound of it.

Emily Gardner I am not sure if you find documentaries boring but there is one called " to infinity and beyond" that tries to explain he concept.

DanusMax I like documentaries on animals, though that's mainly just because I love animals. Anyway, maybe I'll look it up some time, whatever it is.

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. And you got my jokes! Yeah!

Thank you; that's a very, very good point...that makes a lot more sense than what I was saying, so that's for pointing that out. I'm going to put an annotation up at that part pointing to your comment if that's alright!

Thank you for the compliment! And I'm flattered by your annotation!

+John Leitgeb Good grief I just watched some Dexter clips on KZfaq -- you're right

+John Leitgeb is that Dexter as in "Dexter's Lab" (ISTP) or Dexter as in "Dexter" (INTJ)?

Veritech Ace yeah -- "Dexter" the vigilante serial killer

+John Leitgeb I hear Dr. Taub from House MD.

+John Leitgeb i thought the same thing before reading this

Feel u there homie

I have a total of 1 friend. And I haven't texted her in weeks... I should probably do that...

Dude my sister is an ENFP as well and my mother is an ESFJ. Rest of family are all FP's.. fml

qtpie You have my sympathy. I'm glad my parents were ISTJs. I tried having ESFJ parents for 3 months as an exchange student. What a nightmare! Even worse was that the "father" was the counselor and he figured that since I couldn't get along with his family then I couldn't get along with any family despite that the first family I stayed with were willing to take me back and 2-3 teachers offered to let me stay with them the last 3 months. I took my MBTI test in my psychology class back then.

***** My mother AND sister are ENFPs, my dad is an ESFP. I pretty much spend time in my room and they all seem to take offense to it. They seem to take it personally that I would rather study or focus on one of my many projects than spend time watching tv with them. It's really frustrating to deal with sometimes.

ENFP must be better than ENFJ, ESFJ and ESFP. I'm allergic to Fe so I can think of types worse than ENFP.

TheReck Mother is Enfp. Life is not great.

Joshua Tunis You're not the first to mention that, and I think you're right -- I should have phrased the information differently, because the INTJ's preference for Te actually does mean they are very focused on the objective facts to form their vision. What I believe I did was mixed up Te with Se: looking back through famous INTJs I've realized they all demonstrate the interest in facts and data you're talking about, Karl Marx being a great example of this. I am thinking about clearing this up in a future video, but for now, the point is the INTJ most certainly is focused on and wants to ground their vision in the real world and have it work in the real world because of Te. Repressed Se means that they may spend a possibly unhealthy amount of time envisioning the future rather than living their life in reality, or focused on understanding the course of events than living life, or when they do try to live life it can be (emphasis on "can", of course) a challenge for them to not overindulge. But I don't suppose that jives any better with you, or you have any comments on that?

Michael Pierce Actually, it does. Being that the repressed Se function you alluded to is an aspect I can closely relate with, along with the explanation in the video about how a nuanced Fi will recoil in shock upon the realization of a hurtful, yet indubitable truth (e.g., she's cheating on me, and truth must be accepted as true). As for Se, I oft find myself unable to simply enjoy the moment as it occurs, instead contemplating what's happening and why. Only when the moment is gone have I caught up am prepared to enjoy it, meaning the only pleasure comes from thinking about it afterward, using the information collected during the experience. It becomes difficult to let go, to let the spontaneous be self-serving. I also think it's curious that you chose Karl Marx as an example of a fellow who was supposedly interested in facts and data, as I personally believe that Marx and his collectivist precepts, on the contrary, did not wholesomely follow reality, instead being focused on the struggle of castes; this would explain (to me) the popular breakdown of communist principles over the last 30 years. I tend to be much more of subscriber to Ayn Rand's rational understanding the world around us, i.e., from the perspective of freedom and capitalism. Another great point from the video was that of tunnel vision, both a boon and a curse depending upon the circumstance. I hope this wasn't a digression.

Those parts are fucked, yeah; and the Marx reference felt off to me too

@@MichaelPiercePhilosophy The Revisiting video is a lot better.

Hey! It finally works!

Can you make a video where you just say "I'm sorry Dave; I'm afraid I can't do that.". You sound like Hal9000

aten747 Lool yeah!

Michael Pierce you should do a video on shadow functions

+Michael Pierce maybe you cannot worry about your thumbnail

I do the same thing with a different but still very logically complex board game.

@@pi_guygamer6930 What is it?

Same actually I'm learning to play chess now

theres no need to do that anymore with all the apps available

Ludwig van Beethoven We don't hate it per say, but we tend to be perfectionist in our grammar because we fear/hate being judged and criticized by it. Hating bad grammar is more of a subjective appeal than a general characteristic of a type. Subjectively, some of us don't really care being judged by our grammar and prefer to write/type in our own fashion/style that is pleasuring and even sarcastic... ;P.

Ludwig van Beethoven "could care less" is one of my biggest pet peeves

Perhaps, but INTJ is aware that others do not possess that obsession. And so, a mature INTJ doesn't focus on so much on it that they miss the message being delivered.

I think Beethoven is also INTJ.

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Katie The Prog Bulldog He is. I think strategist fits better than mastermind, as well.

Komatik It fits better, but doesn't have the same oomph as "Mastermind".

But Mastermind is already trademarked by Parker Brothers ! tinyurl.com/y9b8m6hz

E ele continua bom e preciso?

Mateusz Dworak Indeed, good sir :)

Ibrahim Abdullah Thank you, I'm flattered! Yes, I would consider myself an Ni subtype.

Ibrahim Abdullah can you elaborate more on the infj subtypes?

+Mateusz Dworak False. INTJs don't have soul.

MrHejke How'd you work that out? What is a soul to you? To have soul or not, you'd have to be able to clearly define what a soul actually is. And most peoples view of a soul is an overly subjective and romanticised entity, suggesting that most people don't really know what it really is for sure, as it's only a feeling, and a feeling that people cling to for comfort when it comes to the far future, and for a feeling of being special.

Mike Donaldson Most "INTJs" online probably are mistyped, and pretty much circlejerking idiots anyway.

+Mike Donaldson this is my most responsive comment online to date, another term is bigotry

+the32712 I recently have let god into my life after 45 years of atheism feels good!

Been religious my whole life but for me what has really helped make use of my intj-ness is STUDYING it because it's gave me an opportunities to look into belief, philosophy, supernatural dimensions, divine beings and things beyond the material world. Good for the intj mind!

+the32712 me 2

I mean, like seriously, what makes you think theism is unscientific and "illogical".

***** Compare that to Earth magically being created by some inanimate object the size of a pin. From which life, Earth, and all the planets magically came forth. It makes much more sense to me that our intricate DNA, that the complexities of our cells, that the perfect balance our ecosystem has, was produced not by chance through the explosion of a pin, but by Intelligent Design. If you believe the pin story, where did that pin come from? Someone had to make it. Even if you believe the Big Bang, somebody had to have created that matter. Matter does not come from nothing. There has to be a Supreme Being. That's why I refuse to believe the Big Bang.

Michael Pierce Discussion on MindMastery 's channel provided some further insight into INTJ type. Quoted from internationalpsychoanalysis.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/McWilliamsschizoid_dynamics.pdf *"Arthur Robbins (personal communication) goes so far as to say that inside every schizoid individual is a hysterical one, and vice versa."* Also from Schizoid PD wikipedia page: "A new therapeutic operation of "remembering with feeling" that draws on D. W. Winnicott's concepts of false self and true self is called for.[34]:126 The patient must remember with feeling the emergence of his or her false self through childhood, and remember the conditions and proscriptions that were imposed on the individual’s freedom to experience the self in company with others. *Remembering with feeling ultimately leads the patient to understand that he or she had no opportunity to choose from a selection of possible ways of experiencing the self and of relating with others, and had few, if any, options other than to develop a schizoid stance toward others.* *The false self was simply the best way in which the patient could experience the repetitive predictable acknowledgment, affirmation, and approval necessary for emotional survival while warding off the effects associated with the abandonment depression.[34]:123-143* ... The dismantling of the false self "leaves the impaired real self with the opportunity to convert its potential and its possibilities into actualities."[34]:127" These might be parallel to my suggestion that INTJ contains a repressed ENTP inside. I cannot decide whether the false self is the INTJ mantle and the true (or abandoned) self is the repressed ENTP or the false self is the overdeveloped superego and the true self is the underdeveloped ego. However I feel atm that the first version is more accurate. And I theorize that what Jung referred to as the shadow is the true (but weak and repressed) self. The more the rift between true and false selves (i.e. the stronger the repression of the true self) the higher the risk of developing a PD is I guess. And recovery can be achieved by making peace with the repressed self i.e. self actualization. Also the pdf document also contains this interesting quote as well: *"My own guess about why this is so includes the observation that high-functioning schizoid people are not surprised or put off by evidence of the unconscious. That is, they have intimate--and at times uneasy--familiarity with processes that in most people are out of awareness, an access that makes psychoanalytic ideas more accessible and commonsensical to them than they are to those of us who spend years on the couch hacking through repressive defenses to make the acquaintance of our more alien impulses, images, and feelings."* I guess IxxJs are extremely self-conscious, which also gives them insight into internal processes and defense mechanisms.

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+qube sauce No, he's very much an INTJ. Musk even says that his companies are ends to a larger goal of protecting humanity.

No, it's an expression of extroverted thinking.

+Cipher Veri (Urban) You completely miss understand. The important point was that he set those companies to fulfill long term strategic goals. INTJ don't stand up to fight because they hear the call but because they want to fight; saving humanity is Elon Musk's fight, and he has his reasons for it. I'm an INTJ and I want create a better world not out of some kind of selfless generosity but because that's just the kind of world I want to live in. You're trying to make prescriptive judgement using a decretive system.

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cheapbstard agreed

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! And I appreciated your comments; you know what you're talking about. The typings I use in the videos I draw directly from CelebrityTypes.com, since I don't have enough time to do all the research for each individual myself. So I can't make a judgment call on whether Mark Zuckerberg or Nikola Tesla really were INTJs or NTP types because I haven't researched them myself, but I can explain how I (as a non-expert) have learned to see NTJ vs. NTP, and whether you agree with it or which category you think Zuckerberg and Tesla fit into is up to you. Intuition is rather associative; by that I mean that while sensation looks at things with a clear, sharp lens so that they can examine the actual thing, intuition looks through a blurred lens so that its easier to associate the blurred image with other things they've seen before, to use their intuitive imagination. That looks like a bird! Or a plane! Or maybe it's this other thing! So, the difference between Ni and Ne is what this lens is looking at. Ne looks at objects, Ni recoils from objects, and only views them from a degree of separation: through how they impress the subject. Which is why Ne appears much more energetic usually because its more direct, while Ni tends to want to hold back and examine the impressions first. So, the distinction between whether Tesla was Ni or Ne would be whether his invention was based on innovating from already existing objects, or delving into his own mind and impressions and innovating off of those, accumulating a meshed vision, and then trying to bring it to life in various ways. Ne generally appears very clever, even meticulous and mature about exploring possibilities, because while their energy and flightiness can make them appear reckless, they are meticulous in the sense of not giving their ALL until they've explored all sides of an issue (which they may not every finish doing). But Ni is more rash in that it delves into whichever side of an issue grants the most yield right now, getting very excited by their beautiful idea and pursuing it with their ALL. Ne is more flighty and noncommittal, while Ni is overcommitted. Both can come up with many ideas, but Ne is more meticulous and multifaceted about it while Ni dives deep into it. As for Te vs. Ti, the INFJ seeks to make their visions more logically complete and consistent, to make them an internally perfect system (Ti), but Te doesn't care if it is logically sound theoretically, but only if it works practically. Te wants to have control or power over the objective world, while Ti wants power over their own subjective world. I think Tesla demonstrated this Te because his intuitive visions were not internally consistent, but were directed at getting something done in the real world. INTJ vs. INFJ; they will often disagree on this level, where the INFJ wants to make their ideas make sense logically while the INTJ wants something that can exhibit power or control over their environment. The ENTP is more like the INFJ in that they are more a thinker than a doer. They want to explore logical consistency over practical application. The INTJ is more like the ENFP because they share this Te drive, but it's much easier to tell those two apart because the ENFP demonstrates a warm whimsical Fi. I don't know if you agree; you probably don't, and that's fine, because you've made some other very good points such as ENTPs being potentially just as withdrawn (very very true) and points about Si, and you're right, I don't know how Tesla demonstrated the chessboard mentality I talked about. But those are the main reasons behind my thinking, and I hope they are useful to you!

babinka22 Well, I have thought about all three of those possibilities...I have no way to confirm whether or not Ni dominant types are more common than they are made out to be. I don't know how that research is done. I have heard complaints about there being lots of falsely typed Ni dominant types, because those types have usually been made out to be "the best" and "most special", but I personally don't know anyone in that situation. I think the last point you made is the easiest explanation, but I've also met genuine, confirmable INTJs and INFJs who have not taken any interest in the system after their typing. So I'm not really sure. I am tempted at this point to think that there are falsely typed people out there, but its not really my business to accuse anyone of that.

I think it is because Ni dominants get this obsessive focus where they latch onto something and don't let it go. Additionally, INFJs and INTJs are really into looking for patterns and insights to explain the world around them. In contrast, an ENFP is going to learn about it, finding it interesting, and then move on to the next exciting thing. I do think that INFJs and INTJs are quite rare, but they just tend to be on the Internet a lot and into this type of stuff. I'm INTJ. I know of one other INTJ in real life. I don't know any ENTJs. I know one ENFJ and no INFJs. So out of a lot of people that I know, there are only 3 Ni types. I do agree with Michael that a lot of people think that they are Ni types when they are not. More people have a tendency to test as 'N' when they aren't. More people also test as 'T' when they aren't too. As a result a lot of people who test as INTJ aren't, so perhaps some of the people saying they are INTJ aren't. When you meet a real one, you can tell the difference.

eb44345 I think I am INTJ - I've done MBTI test from a book before reading descriptions of all types. Later I have done bunch of e-tests and my result always was INTJ. But all of these tests are suggesting that T stands for being rational and F for acting under influence of emotions... and also that extravertion is just loving to spend a lot of time with people and introvertion is enjoying loneliness. So it's hard to tell if I'm right or just one of misleaded NT's :P

babinka22 If it helps, a test I think is at least worth your time is the one on CelebrityTypes: www.celebritytypes.com/test.php which is trying to fight against the very problems you just noted.

Michael Pierce Thank you for sharing this link. Questions was really deeper than in other tests ;) Still the same result, that's good to know.

yep, me too.